powerback: tapering no 2

[GirlfromD]

Sending lots of love and healing your way Pb! You have been through some difficult times, and im sure the good days are waiting for you. You always had the best advises for me, so i hope your'e able to figure out what to do for your self now, but i know you are😊 I'm sure you will heal one day too and beat this wd beast.

 

Wishing you all the best! 🧡

[direstraits]

wishing you some peace and healing,pb.

I'm suffering too right now,this is so hard.

 

xxx

[Altostrata]

On 12/2/2018 at 9:26 AM, powerback said:

sound Andy thanks for coming by ,I'm already thinking of the weight gain ,this seems to be an issue on Prozac .Anyway needs must .

Take care . 

 

This is not a common complaint on Prozac.

 

Many doctors bridge to Prozac as a matter of course with Effexor, which is notoriously difficult to taper. Some of them are not enlightened enough to cross-taper, which is hard on their patients. A cross-taper is also a common way to switch drugs.

 

While the future of each change is an unknown, a switch to Prozac to go off Effexor is not an odd thing to do.

 

You've hung in there with Effexor long enough to show a direct taper is not going to work for you, Powerback. Of course, a switch is your choice.

 

Please let us know how you're doing, we're all concerned about you.

[powerback]

13 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

This is not a common complaint on Prozac.

 

Many doctors bridge to Prozac as a matter of course with Effexor, which is notoriously difficult to taper. Some of them are not enlightened enough to cross-taper, which is hard on their patients. A cross-taper is also a common way to switch drugs.

 

While the future of each change is an unknown, a switch to Prozac to go off Effexor is not an odd thing to do.

 

You've hung in there with Effexor long enough to show a direct taper is not going to work for you, Powerback. Of course, a switch is your choice.

 

Please let us know how you're doing, we're all concerned about you.

Hi Alto ,every day now the last few weeks im wracking my brain as what to do ,because my nervous system and immune system is so sick ,its a strong possibility this bridge will be much worse for me .

In my case I surmise if a taper over 6 months and no bridge is better for my body,but its a flip of the coin.

 

There needs to be clarity here ,I didnt push a taper far enough to experince any healing of no drug in my system .

This is on me and I take full responsibility for this .

 

I have all the advice and help I need ,witch I am eternally grateful for .I am asseing it constantly.

 

I did some work yesterday and it was shocking how bad I was ,the only reason the man I work with puts up with it is the fact hes seen me at my best and this carries me through but there's limits .

For some reason im able to push through some serious states and get the day over (very good at hiding it) ,but its not many days a week .this surely snaps back at me .

Ive nothing much in until the new year so ive a break in that respect .

 

I can understand other members geting frustrated with my case 

and I understand behind this is everyones scared for themselves also .

 

The amazing people dealing with this terrible situation deserve clarity .

 

My life was far from set up before withdrawal .this is on me also .

This is all extremely embarrassing for me ,the lenght it has gone on .

 

Alto ,I presume if the bridge happens ,I will need to get  to 10mg(35.5 ven equivalent) of prozac but it what time frame ?.

Wholeheartedly gratefull for all members nice message on here lately.

Take care.

 

[powerback]

This mite seem like a stupid question, I opened a bottle of liquid prozac about 6 weeks ago and took 2mg out of it and havent touched it since ,would this still be ok to use ,cheers in advance.

I can ask the chemist I supose also.

[apace41]

I don't know off the top of my head, PB, BUT...

 

If you just opened a new bottle that would presume that you have the rest of the bottle left.  If so, is it worth the risk for 2mg?

Just sayin'.

 

Best,

 

Andy

[Leo1983]

I would get a new liquid to start bridge.

 

I would also ask the pharmacy if they can order the same generic brand in each time for you. 

 

Just my opinion. 

[Hibari]

 Hi PowerBack,

 

Dont know if this helps any but please be kind to yourself when you feel other are frustrated with your case.  They may be but in a funny way, it has nothing to do with you as a person.  (Ice has the same feeling myself)  

 

I think anyone reading your story here has the utmost compassion for who you are and what you are going through.  

 

I too have self recrimination for how handled my taper and there are lots of us in this site who share that regret.  

 

Even with all that, you still deserve kindness and support.  

 

 

[powerback]

1 hour ago, Leo1983 said:

I would get a new liquid to start bridge.

 

I would also ask the pharmacy if they can order the same generic brand in each time for you. 

 

Just my opinion. 

Hi leo ,don't get me started ,I can ask all day and they wont listen ,DR has put on prescription countless times "do not substitute "but maybe it could be different this time .

thanks for your help .

Take care.

[Leo1983]

You basically have to tell them how its guna be. 

 

Shoulders back and request the same generic. 

 

Trust me they will do it with some force from you.

[Leo1983]

I know your very unwell. 

 

I get that. Also i know WD is a disaster. Certainly something i have never had to manage in my life. 

 

I think self motivation and goal planning plays a big part in recovery. 

 

Write down what it is you want to be your end goal. Also any things that you think could be a challenge along the way. Then look at the challenges and ensure they dont get in your way.Work out how you are NOT going to be stopped from recovering at NO costs. 

 

Leo

[powerback]

1 minute ago, Leo1983 said:

You basically have to tell them how its guna be. 

 

Shoulders back and request the same generic. 

 

Trust me they will do it with some force from you.

Ive been there with them  before,i  just get the run around  that its the drug company ,its not an option for me to be in  any situation I mite loose my temper .

Thanks for reminding me  leo 👍,ile book appointment with my DR and say it again to him about the brand .

[powerback]

4 minutes ago, Leo1983 said:

I know your very unwell. 

 

I get that. Also i know WD is a disaster. Certainly something i have never had to manage in my life. 

 

I think self motivation and goal planning plays a big part in recovery. 

 

Write down what it is you want to be your end goal. Also any things that you think could be a challenge along the way. Then look at the challenges and ensure they dont get in your way.Work out how you are NOT going to be stopped from recovering at NO costs. 

 

Leo

I think it mite be more a toxic poisoning

/paradoxical   reaction looking back now . 

Take care mate and thanks for your input .

[Leo1983]

Even more reason to find a way off the drugs.....

 

Take care.

[powerback]

1 hour ago, apace41 said:

I don't know off the top of my head, PB, BUT...

 

If you just opened a new bottle that would presume that you have the rest of the bottle left.  If so, is it worth the risk for 2mg?

Just sayin'.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Hi Andy ,I have a syringe and its in millilitres ,ive googled it  [brain not working ] but is a  ML equal to a MG .

Cheers .

[Kostas]

53 minutes ago, powerback said:

Hi Andy ,I have a syringe and its in millilitres ,ive googled it  [brain not working ] but is a  ML equal to a MG .

Cheers .

It depends on what is the concentration of the solution pb. 

 

If it is 1mg/ml, then 1 ml of solution , contains 1 mg of the substance. 

[powerback]

50 minutes ago, Kostas said:

It depends on what is the concentration of the solution pb. 

 

If it is 1mg/ml, then 1 ml of solution , contains 1 mg of the substance. 

Hi Kostas thanks .

[ChessieCat]

4 hours ago, powerback said:

,ile book appointment with my DR and say it again to him about the brand .

 

If it was me I would be asking the doctor to contact the head pharmacist.  That way they will know that the request is required and not just a preference if available.

 

However, because generics can change more easily than brand, and the pharmacies don't have any/much control over what they get in, it might be worthwhile going with brand from the start.

[powerback]

20 hours ago, Hibari said:

 Hi PowerBack,

 

Dont know if this helps any but please be kind to yourself when you feel other are frustrated with your case.  They may be but in a funny way, it has nothing to do with you as a person.  (Ice has the same feeling myself)  

 

I think anyone reading your story here has the utmost compassion for who you are and what you are going through.  

 

I too have self recrimination for how handled my taper and there are lots of us in this site who share that regret.  

 

Even with all that, you still deserve kindness and support.  

 

 

Sound Hibari ,very well put .I hope your ok today.

[powerback]

On ‎12‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 5:16 PM, direstraits said:

wishing you some peace and healing,pb.

I'm suffering too right now,this is so hard.

 

xxx

Thanks D ,sorry your suffering ,you have my sympathy. 

[powerback]

On ‎12‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 4:13 PM, GirlfromD said:

Sending lots of love and healing your way Pb! You have been through some difficult times, and im sure the good days are waiting for you. You always had the best advises for me, so i hope your'e able to figure out what to do for your self now, but i know you are😊 I'm sure you will heal one day too and beat this wd beast.

 

Wishing you all the best! 🧡

Thanks GFD your very kind .

Take care 🙏.

[powerback]

On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 5:46 PM, Rosetta said:

I'm sad that you are suffering so much, PB.  Let's hope Prozac makes a difference that is a good one.  It has for others.  Venlafaxine seems to be a particularly bad AD.

Thanks Rossetta ,I wish you well ,I haven't been looking at threads lately so I hope you doing ok.

[powerback]

On ‎11‎/‎21‎/‎2018 at 4:18 PM, Flowers said:

Hi PB

 

I have just been reading your thread for the first time and am so sorry you are struggling so badly with a cold too. Just not fair!

 

I am sure you will decide when the time is right for you to do the changeover.  Please do not give up - I know it has been a long hard slog but there is always something else to try to help you and the prozac bridge might be the answer.

 

By the way, Christmas drives me nuts too! Bah Humbug!

 

Love from Flowers xxx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks flowers your very kind .

I just copped ide already replied ,oops.

[powerback]

On ‎12‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 8:33 AM, Benzhelp said:

Hi Powerback, 

 

So very sorry you are going through such a rough time in withdrawal, my friend. Hope you stabilse and feel better soon. Much Love, Healing and Blessings to you, dear PB <3 Take gentle care of yourself ❤️

Ah Thanks Benzhelp  very nice of you to pop over  ,how you these days ,hope your well .

[powerback]

17 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

If it was me I would be asking the doctor to contact the head pharmacist.  That way they will know that the request is required and not just a preference if available.

 

However, because generics can change more easily than brand, and the pharmacies don't have any/much control over what they get in, it might be worthwhile going with brand from the start.

Thanks CC for the heads up,i see DR on Friday ,ile be all nice and non confrontational, yes sir, thanks sir,im honoured sir   lol .

[Altostrata]

Every switch to Prozac is a leap of faith. We don't know what will happen. Sometimes people feel better.

 

It's too bad you cannot find a doctor who has done this.

 

On 11/18/2018 at 8:42 PM, Altostrata said:

pb, maybe it's time to think about substituting Prozac.

 

If I were you, I would consider adding 3mg Prozac for 3 days, cut Effexor dosage by half, add 2mg Prozac for 3 days, drop Effexor altogether.

 

Make this change over a holiday.

 

[dj2010]

how are you doing PB?

[Carmie]

Hi Powerback, 

 

I’m wondering the same thing. How are you doing?💚

[powerback]

19 hours ago, dj2010 said:

how are you doing PB?

 

9 hours ago, Carmie said:

Hi Powerback, 

 

I’m wondering the same thing. How are you doing?💚

Thanks for asking ,its very kind of yous 🙏.stinker of a mood to be honest ,even last year I was able to go for walks ,researching autoimmune disorders at the moment  because ive strong symptoms  ,you could call it health anxiety but there's no hiding how I feel ,one of the worst ones is the very tired, dry uncomfortable feeling I have around my eyes ,strong muscle tension and aches in most of my bones also.

 

I did do some work yesterday that I should not of but needs must ,so that explains the extra aches today .I got myself another work related injury because of stupidity and lack of concentration but it will heal .

Im still mulling over the bridge but very afraid of my body's reaction because of the state its in already ,im also mentally very fragile 😣.

Thanks again for your concerns.

Take care 👍.

[Hibari]

3 hours ago, powerback said:

 

Thanks for asking ,its very kind of yous 🙏.stinker of a mood to be honest ,even last year I was able to go for walks ,researching autoimmune disorders at the moment  because ive strong symptoms  ,you could call it health anxiety but there's no hiding how I feel ,one of the worst ones is the very tired, dry uncomfortable feeling I have around my eyes ,strong muscle tension and aches in most of my bones also.

 

I did do some work yesterday that I should not of but needs must ,so that explains the extra aches today .I got myself another work related injury because of stupidity and lack of concentration but it will heal .

Im still mulling over the bridge but very afraid of my body's reaction because of the state its in already ,im also mentally very fragile 😣.

Thanks again for your concerns.

Take care 👍.

I understand and empathize with your physical and mental state.  I am in the same boat and am navigating life, day by day.  

 

You are not alone on this very difficult journey.  

 

 

[Miko789]

How are you doing my friend?

[powerback]

On ‎11‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 5:12 PM, Altostrata said:

This is an ideal time to initiate a switch to Prozac, adding 2mg to the full Effexor 37.5mg capsule for 3 days, then take 2 of the Effexor mini-tablets (25mg) and make up the rest with 2mg Prozac.

HI Alto ,im going with the switch tomorrow.

in regards to [25mg ] with 2mg Prozac ,will I do this for no more than 4 days and then be on 4mg of Prozac from then on .Thanks in advance .

I've evaluated my options and it needs to be tried . 

[Leo1983]

Go PB.......

 

Good luck.

[powerback]

20 minutes ago, Leo1983 said:

Go PB.......

 

Good luck.

lol,cheers leo1983.

[Leo1983]

Im in a wave. Its a killer. 

 

Crying, anxiety and confusion. 

 

Felt good. Had a virus flu. 

 

Now feel awful like in the start of WD.

 

So we all have it mate.

[powerback]

6 minutes ago, Leo1983 said:

Im in a wave. Its a killer. 

 

Crying, anxiety and confusion. 

 

Felt good. Had a virus flu. 

 

Now feel awful like in the start of WD.

 

So we all have it mate.

flu could of pushed your system too far ,its a bummer mate that's for sure  ,hold on tight .

Take care .