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Wishing the best for you, PB!  

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg

2021: 1/3/21: 7.8 mg (1.27% drop); 1/24/21: 7.7 mg (1.29%); 1/31/21: 7.6 mg (1.17%); 2/7/21: 7.5 mg (1.19%); 2/14/21: 7.4 mg (1.34%); 2/28/21: 7.3 mg (1.25%); 3/7/21: 7.2 mg (1.25%); 3/21/21: 7.1 mg (1.25%); 3/28/21: 7.0 mg (1.25%); 4/25/21 - 5/5/21 : generic clonazepam switch; 5/16/21: 6.9 mg (1.25%); 5/23/21: 6.85 mg (1.25%); 5/30/21: 6.8 mg (1.25%); 6/6/21: 6.7 mg (1.25%); 6/27/21: 6.6 mg (1.25%); 6.5 mg (1.25%); 7/11/21: 6.4 mg (1.25%); 7/18/21: 6.36 mg (1.25%)

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You are taking brave steps PB and you are not alone. 

 Sept 2013-Apr 2014:  After death of my mom put on as series of meds. Zoloft 6 days, Lexapro1 day, Nortriptyline 10 days, Liquid Prozac 1 week, Cymbalta 1 week.

Got off Clonzapam: 1/2014-9/2014. After given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs

Completed Remeron taper: 41.25 -0.025mgs  1/2015-4 2017. 

Completed Lamictal Taper: 200mgs-0.05 mgs 7/ 2015-11/2018. 

Clonazapam  December 2018. 0.625 Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping and not thinking straight. 28 March, 2019  4% taper Total: .625mgai   26 May, 2019  4% taper Total: .575 mgai,   24 June, 2019 2.5 % taper  10 Clonzapam tablets weigh1.999 mgpw  Average  200 mgpw.  0.0073mgai 9AM, 0.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai, Total: 561mgai,  10 July, 2019 (Compounded pills) .0073mgai 9AM,.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai,

Total .561mgai   26 August, 2019 (Back to regular pills due to bad reaction) .0078mgai 9AM, .01075mgai 3PM, .360mgai PM, Total: .545mgai   26 Sept. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .1mgai 3PM, 0.350mgai PM: Total: .5275mgai   31 Oct, 2019 .0750mgai 9AM, .0925mgai 3PM, 0.340mgai 930PM, Total: .5075mgai,   30 Nov. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .0825mgai 3PM, .3325mgai 9:30PM, Total:.490mgai   31 Dec. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM,  .080mgai 3PM, .3225mgai 9:30PM,  Total: .4775mgai   31 Jan. 2020 .0725mgai 9AM, .0750mgai 3pm, .315mgai 9:30PM, Total: .4625mgai    29 Feb. 2020  .0675mgai 9AM, .0675 3PM, .305 mgai 9PM Total: .440mgai 31 March 2020 .065mgai 9AM,  .065mgai 3PM, .2925mgai 10PM, Total: 4225mgai  30 April 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM, .2775mgai 10PM  Total: .4025mgai 31 May 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625 mgai 3PM, .2526 mgai 10PM, Total: .3775mgai  30 June 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM  .2175 mgai 10PM Total .3425mgai.   31 July 2020 .0575 mgai 9AM .0550 mgai 3PM .180mgai 10PM Total .2925mgai  31 August 2020 .0475mgai 9AM, 0.045mgai 3PM, .01475mgai 10PM Total: .2375mgai  30 September 2020 0.0375mgai 9AM 0.035mgai 3PM 0.110mgai 10PM  Total: .1825mgai 31 October 2020 .0325mgai 9AM .0350mgai 3PM  .0725mgai 9PM

Total: .14mgai  30 Nov. 2020 .03mgai 9AM  .0276mgai 3PM 0.450mgai 9PM Total: .1025mgai 31 Dec. 2020 .02mgai 9AM .02mgai 3PM .02mgai 9PM Total: .06mgai  5 February, 2021 .0150mgai Stepped off of Clonzapam, Benzo Free

 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs,  Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Magnesium Glycinate

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Good luck on this @powerback!

  • Prozac | late 2004-mid-2005 | CT WD in a couple months, mostly emotional
  • Sertraline 50-100mg | 11/2011-3/2014, 10/2014-3/2017
  • Sertraline fast taper March 2017, 4 weeks, OFF sertraline April 1, 2017
  • Quit alcohol May 20, 2017
  • Lifestyle changes: AA, kundalini yoga

 

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On 12/12/2018 at 10:17 AM, powerback said:

HI Alto ,im going with the switch tomorrow.

in regards to [25mg ] with 2mg Prozac ,will I do this for no more than 4 days and then be on 4mg of Prozac from then on .Thanks in advance .

I've evaluated my options and it needs to be tried . 

 

Please let us know how you're doing, pb.

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On ‎11‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 5:12 PM, Altostrata said:

This is an ideal time to initiate a switch to Prozac, adding 2mg to the full Effexor 37.5mg capsule for 3 days, then take 2 of the Effexor mini-tablets (25mg) and make up the rest with 2mg Prozac.

 

You'll need to request a prescription for liquid Prozac right away. If you cannot get liquid, you can make a liquid yourself, see Tips for tapering off Prozac (fluoxetine) Be sure to get a 5mL oral syringe from the pharmacist.

 

There may be bumps -- or not, you may feel relief. Please let us know how you're doing.

This is an ideal time to initiate a switch to Prozac, adding 2mg to the full Effexor 37.5mg capsule for 3 days, then take 2 of the Effexor mini-tablets (25mg) and make up the rest with 2mg Prozac.

 

Hi Alto im going into Day 4 tomorrow of switch .forgive me im tired and brain fatigued .

on day 4 I will be taking 4mg of Prozac with 2 mini tablets [25mg],this is how im interpreting the above quote .am I correct ?.

Thanks in advance .take care.

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Yes, take 2 of the Effexor mini-tablets (25mg) with 4mg Prozac. You are lowering the Effexor while increasing Prozac.

 

In a few days, you'd drop another Effexor mini-tablet, and take one mini-tablet with 4mg Prozac. If all is well, drop the last mini-tablet a few days after that, and increase Prozac to 5mg total.

 

What are you taking now? How do you feel? Do you feel better or worse than when you were on all venlafaxine?

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8 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Yes, take 2 of the Effexor mini-tablets (25mg) with 4mg Prozac. You are lowering the Effexor while increasing Prozac.

 

In a few days, you'd drop another Effexor mini-tablet, and take one mini-tablet with 4mg Prozac. If all is well, drop the last mini-tablet a few days after that, and increase Prozac to 5mg total.

 

What are you taking now? How do you feel? Do you feel better or worse than when you were on all venlafaxine?

Sound alto thanks for that ,im no better really or worse ,ile keep my notes and see in 4 or 5 days how it pans out .

For 3 days I took 2mg prozac with 37.5 effexor.today is the first day of 25mg effexor with 4 mg prozac .

Ide imagine ile have to notice a pretty bad reaction to abondon the switch.

At the momment I have racing/intrusive thoughts but they were pretty much always there .

I didnt forsee the unpleasant taste of the liquid ha .

Take care .

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Good luck PB. I think that you had to try something new. Praying for you mate. You can do this !

Steve

 

 

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Dosulepin 75 mgs per night since 1993.           Dosulepin March 16  2018   75mgs and 50 mgs alternate nights.             Dosulepin. March 30. 2018.  50 mgs per night

Dosulepin. May 2. 2018. 50mgs and 25 mgs alternate nights

Dosulepin. May 27 2018. 50 mgs per night ( increased )

Dosulepin. July 11 2018. 45 mgs per night

Dosulepin. August 13 2018  40 mgs per night

Dosulepin  October 10 2018. 37.5 mgs per night

Dosulepin. October. 24 2018. 35 mgs per night

Dosulepin. December 5 2018. 32.5 mgs per night

Dosulepin.  January 2. 2018  30mgs per night   February 14 2018  29 mgs per night

Dosulepin February 27  28 mgs per night

 

 

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1 hour ago, Steve61 said:

Good luck PB. I think that you had to try something new. Praying for you mate. You can do this !

Steve

 

 

hi steve  cheers ,im under no illusion this is the silver bullet solution ,im just hoping it doesn't go very bad .as of now im not going near Effexor again ,so unless ive a serious reaction to Prozac ,ile stay on it for at least 6 months .I hope in the future others will take into account all variables in there personal life before coming off a drug.i simply didn't have an environment for peace and relaxation .your living arrangements has to be one of the biggest factors for healing I think .anyway all on me even before withdrawal .  

Take care. 

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, powerback said:

hi steve  cheers ,im under no illusion this is the silver bullet solution ,im just hoping it doesn't go very bad .as of now im not going near Effexor again ,so unless ive a serious reaction to Prozac ,ile stay on it for at least 6 months .I hope in the future others will take into account all variables in there personal life before coming off a drug.i simply didn't have an environment for peace and relaxation .your living arrangements has to be one of the biggest factors for healing I think .anyway all on me even before withdrawal .  

Take care. 

From what I’ve read, I think that you got the short straw with your ad. One of the hardest to come off by all accounts. Good luck in changing to Prozac .

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Dosulepin 75 mgs per night since 1993.           Dosulepin March 16  2018   75mgs and 50 mgs alternate nights.             Dosulepin. March 30. 2018.  50 mgs per night

Dosulepin. May 2. 2018. 50mgs and 25 mgs alternate nights

Dosulepin. May 27 2018. 50 mgs per night ( increased )

Dosulepin. July 11 2018. 45 mgs per night

Dosulepin. August 13 2018  40 mgs per night

Dosulepin  October 10 2018. 37.5 mgs per night

Dosulepin. October. 24 2018. 35 mgs per night

Dosulepin. December 5 2018. 32.5 mgs per night

Dosulepin.  January 2. 2018  30mgs per night   February 14 2018  29 mgs per night

Dosulepin February 27  28 mgs per night

 

 

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Hope this crossover works for you pb... all the best B

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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5 hours ago, btdt said:

Hope this crossover works for you pb... all the best B

hI B thanks for your support , your very kind .me also that's for sure .

How you these days ,hope life is kind to you .

Take care.

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Hi Powerback, 

 

Just wanted to see how your mood is lately. Are you still feeling fragile emotionally?

 

Hope all goes well with your latest changes. 

 

Sending hugs🤗

Been on antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressants and painkillers for chronic pain. 

Been cold turkeyed and put on and off all sorts of things. Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward because I had akathisia from withdrawals. Can’t remember what I was put on but when I was released was in the same predicament with severe akathisia n was suicidal again.

Back to the ward and was given different meds. Tapered off one and have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. It’s been many, many years of tapering so far.

I’ve  tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./ March 10 2019=7.25mg / 17th of April=7 mg / June 5th=6.75mg/ July 14th=6.50mg/ August 28=6.25mg/ 10th of Oct= 6.20mg/ October 21=6mg/ December 16=5.80mg/.   January 21 2020=5.60mg/April 2=5.40g/ May 29=5.20mg/ August 14= 5mg/ September 29=4.80mg/ Jan 31, 2021=4.60 mg/ April 24=4.40mg

 

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

 

 

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Hi ,Thursday I halved 25mg ven with 4mg Prozac ,from vast disgusting experience I am experiencing significant symptoms since yesterday ,I started the bridge 9 days ago. .I cant keep taking the meds together  indefinitely[2 weeks max ive read ]  so Im wondering about dropping the last small tablet  in a few days and taking 6mg Prozac .its pretty bad .

input from mods or anyone greatly welcomed .

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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never give in .must be listened with stereo earphones for benefit .

 

 

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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On ‎12‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 7:57 AM, Carmie said:

Hi Powerback, 

 

Just wanted to see how your mood is lately. Are you still feeling fragile emotionally?

 

Hope all goes well with your latest changes. 

 

Sending hugs🤗

Thanks carmie ,your very kind .

Hugs right back at you 🙏.

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Please know I'm thinking of you and empathize with everything you are going through. 

 Sept 2013-Apr 2014:  After death of my mom put on as series of meds. Zoloft 6 days, Lexapro1 day, Nortriptyline 10 days, Liquid Prozac 1 week, Cymbalta 1 week.

Got off Clonzapam: 1/2014-9/2014. After given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs

Completed Remeron taper: 41.25 -0.025mgs  1/2015-4 2017. 

Completed Lamictal Taper: 200mgs-0.05 mgs 7/ 2015-11/2018. 

Clonazapam  December 2018. 0.625 Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping and not thinking straight. 28 March, 2019  4% taper Total: .625mgai   26 May, 2019  4% taper Total: .575 mgai,   24 June, 2019 2.5 % taper  10 Clonzapam tablets weigh1.999 mgpw  Average  200 mgpw.  0.0073mgai 9AM, 0.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai, Total: 561mgai,  10 July, 2019 (Compounded pills) .0073mgai 9AM,.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai,

Total .561mgai   26 August, 2019 (Back to regular pills due to bad reaction) .0078mgai 9AM, .01075mgai 3PM, .360mgai PM, Total: .545mgai   26 Sept. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .1mgai 3PM, 0.350mgai PM: Total: .5275mgai   31 Oct, 2019 .0750mgai 9AM, .0925mgai 3PM, 0.340mgai 930PM, Total: .5075mgai,   30 Nov. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .0825mgai 3PM, .3325mgai 9:30PM, Total:.490mgai   31 Dec. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM,  .080mgai 3PM, .3225mgai 9:30PM,  Total: .4775mgai   31 Jan. 2020 .0725mgai 9AM, .0750mgai 3pm, .315mgai 9:30PM, Total: .4625mgai    29 Feb. 2020  .0675mgai 9AM, .0675 3PM, .305 mgai 9PM Total: .440mgai 31 March 2020 .065mgai 9AM,  .065mgai 3PM, .2925mgai 10PM, Total: 4225mgai  30 April 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM, .2775mgai 10PM  Total: .4025mgai 31 May 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625 mgai 3PM, .2526 mgai 10PM, Total: .3775mgai  30 June 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM  .2175 mgai 10PM Total .3425mgai.   31 July 2020 .0575 mgai 9AM .0550 mgai 3PM .180mgai 10PM Total .2925mgai  31 August 2020 .0475mgai 9AM, 0.045mgai 3PM, .01475mgai 10PM Total: .2375mgai  30 September 2020 0.0375mgai 9AM 0.035mgai 3PM 0.110mgai 10PM  Total: .1825mgai 31 October 2020 .0325mgai 9AM .0350mgai 3PM  .0725mgai 9PM

Total: .14mgai  30 Nov. 2020 .03mgai 9AM  .0276mgai 3PM 0.450mgai 9PM Total: .1025mgai 31 Dec. 2020 .02mgai 9AM .02mgai 3PM .02mgai 9PM Total: .06mgai  5 February, 2021 .0150mgai Stepped off of Clonzapam, Benzo Free

 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs,  Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Magnesium Glycinate

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11 hours ago, Hibari said:

Please know I'm thinking of you and empathize with everything you are going through. 

Thanks Hibari ,same to you .

Take care.

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Hi PB. Just wanted  to drop by to wish you a peaceful Christmas. Hope that things are picking up for you. I must admit that I am dreading it this year. Just don’t like the extra stress, extra people etc. Makes my social anxiety 100 times worse. 

Good Luck

Steve

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Dosulepin 75 mgs per night since 1993.           Dosulepin March 16  2018   75mgs and 50 mgs alternate nights.             Dosulepin. March 30. 2018.  50 mgs per night

Dosulepin. May 2. 2018. 50mgs and 25 mgs alternate nights

Dosulepin. May 27 2018. 50 mgs per night ( increased )

Dosulepin. July 11 2018. 45 mgs per night

Dosulepin. August 13 2018  40 mgs per night

Dosulepin  October 10 2018. 37.5 mgs per night

Dosulepin. October. 24 2018. 35 mgs per night

Dosulepin. December 5 2018. 32.5 mgs per night

Dosulepin.  January 2. 2018  30mgs per night   February 14 2018  29 mgs per night

Dosulepin February 27  28 mgs per night

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Steve61 said:

Hi PB. Just wanted  to drop by to wish you a peaceful Christmas. Hope that things are picking up for you. I must admit that I am dreading it this year. Just don’t like the extra stress, extra people etc. Makes my social anxiety 100 times worse. 

Good Luck

Steve

Sound steve thanks same to you ,dont buy into the hype ,stick with the pleasantries .be aware if your geting overwhelmed and ground yourself .I have the energy to get all the windows cleaned today ,itl do until summer lol.

Take care 👍.

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, powerback said:

Sound steve thanks same to you ,dont buy into the hype ,stick with the pleasantries .be aware if your geting overwhelmed and ground yourself .I have the energy to get all the windows cleaned today ,itl do until summer lol.

Take care 👍.

That’s great PB. You must be feeling a bit better then, mate. I’m really happy for you.

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Dosulepin 75 mgs per night since 1993.           Dosulepin March 16  2018   75mgs and 50 mgs alternate nights.             Dosulepin. March 30. 2018.  50 mgs per night

Dosulepin. May 2. 2018. 50mgs and 25 mgs alternate nights

Dosulepin. May 27 2018. 50 mgs per night ( increased )

Dosulepin. July 11 2018. 45 mgs per night

Dosulepin. August 13 2018  40 mgs per night

Dosulepin  October 10 2018. 37.5 mgs per night

Dosulepin. October. 24 2018. 35 mgs per night

Dosulepin. December 5 2018. 32.5 mgs per night

Dosulepin.  January 2. 2018  30mgs per night   February 14 2018  29 mgs per night

Dosulepin February 27  28 mgs per night

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Steve61 said:

That’s great PB. You must be feeling a bit better then, mate. I’m really happy for you.

Today is better than yesterday thats for sure ,we keep on trucking.

Peace and take care .

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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How are you feeling PB?

 

I’m preparing for myself for a switch after this long hold is over.

I’m hoping I won’t have to do it, but being realistic I may not be able to reduce any further using my current method. 

 

Happy Christmas to you. 

 

A

Current Dose

0.5mcg Clonidine and 1.25 Diazepam PRN for treatment of iatrogenic hypertension. 

2010 .Prescribed Pristiq 100 mg in July by GP

2010 .Reduced to 50mg by splitting and weighing. Held at 50mg

2014. Reduced from 50-35 .Held at 35mg. 

2017. Taper from 35mg commenced using compounded Desvenlafaxine

2018. 23/06 13.5mg. 21/07  12.5mg. 25/08 11.5mg. 09/2018 10mg. 14/11 11mg (updose) 21/11 -12mg (updose)

2019. Still holding at 12mg and stuck. 

2020. January 2019 Prozac Bridge-- Prozac 2.5 to 10mg and

Pristiq 23rd Jan 6mg/ 27th Jan 5mg/ 28th Jan 3mg/ 30 Jan 0

Prozac 6th Feb 9.5mg. Vitamin D3 5000iu with K2

Magnesium Glycinate with Glycine and Passionflower  600mg 

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2 hours ago, Andie said:

How are you feeling PB?

 

I’m preparing for myself for a switch after this long hold is over.

I’m hoping I won’t have to do it, but being realistic I may not be able to reduce any further using my current method. 

 

Happy Christmas to you. 

 

A

Hi Andie .how I feel depends on the barometer of what I can do.

Today was a decent day ,on the go since 8am  but massive fatigue hit me at 3pm.

In a few weaks ile see how switch goes .but I am forced into it .

 

Keep asking mods for help with taper because a switch is far from the answer.

im desparate for way too long.

Happy Christmas to you also 👍.

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, powerback said:

Sound steve thanks same to you ,dont buy into the hype ,stick with the pleasantries .be aware if your geting overwhelmed and ground yourself .I have the energy to get all the windows cleaned today ,itl do until summer lol.

Take care 👍.

 

Wow Pb impressed, you are doing so well with the bridge, 

 

Merry Christmas, I know next year will be a much better year for you,

 

keep it up👍

2001 - 2005 prozac,  2001 - 2017 various benzos, mainly diazapem and zanex,  2002 - 2017 olanzapine or seroquel,  2002 -2017 propanolol, 2005 - 2009 venlafaxine 75mg , forced to go cold turkey off venlafaxine as moved Thailand, doctor cut me off and couldn't get it there, severely ill for over 2 years, countered withdrawals with more zanex and seroquel

2014 returned to UK, mainly to get treatment getting off meds

doctor advised to taper seroquel over a few weeks, severely ill and bed bed-bound so reinstated it, 2015 tapered seroquel myself slower over a few months, was off it 2 months and was too ill so went on olanzapine, became zombie and too tired to get out of bed, went back on seroquel, very depressed so went back on venlafaxine, didnt work  so doctor swapped to zoloft became very agitated so back on venlafaxine

June 2016 - felt strong enough to begin tapering again, started what I thought was a slow taper of all meds,  2016 July Not had any alcoholic drink since this date, 

2016 October completely off diazepem, 2017 Feb completely off seroquel, 2017 March completely off proponanlol, 2017 April (day before birthday) completely off venlafaxine, OFF ALL MEDS 11/4/2017, was fine for nearly 3 months and then delayed withdrawal hit,

supplements taking: turmeric capsules, NiaCel (nicotinamide riboside), Vit B12 sublingual, Vit B3, Vit B6, Vit B1, apple cider vinegar, manuka umf 10 honey, camu camu powder,  melatonin when needed, epsom salt baths, juices, smoothies, 

Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15175-dj2010-off-all-meds-for-3-months-and-been-fine-now-bad-insomnia/

 

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PB im over the moon for you pal.

 

Just something to keep in mind. Prozac is activating for a while and then drops off and levels out eventually.

 

Just keep this in mind so if it does you can say yep well im not bothered as i knew this could happen. 

 

Take care

 

Merry xmas.

May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg

 

March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths.

 

July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific.

 

August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline.

 

March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had.

 

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PB

Wanting to do stuff is a good sign, I have found!  Make the most of it.

Best wishes.

Born 1945. 

1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine

2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor.  13Jul - 212.5mg;  6Aug - 200.0mg;  24Aug - 187.5mg;  13Sep - 175.0mg;  3Oct - 162.5mg;  26Oct - 150mg 

2017  9Jan - 150.00mg;  23Mar - 137.50mg;  24Apr - 125.00mg;  31May - 112.50mg holding;  3Sep - 100.00mg;  20Sep - 93.75mg;  20Oct - 87.5mg;  12Nov - 81.25mg;  13 Dec - 75.00mg

2018  18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg

2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside.  7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result.

Supps/Vits  Omega 3;  Chelated Magnesium;  Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. 

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On ‎12‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 6:10 PM, dj2010 said:

 

Wow Pb impressed, you are doing so well with the bridge, 

 

Merry Christmas, I know next year will be a much better year for you,

 

keep it up👍

thanks DJ same to you mate ,hope your  trip went ok .

Im up and down ,all over the place really .

Talk soon .

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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On ‎12‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 6:15 PM, Leo1983 said:

PB im over the moon for you pal.

 

Just something to keep in mind. Prozac is activating for a while and then drops off and levels out eventually.

 

Just keep this in mind so if it does you can say yep well im not bothered as i knew this could happen. 

 

Take care

 

Merry xmas.

Merry xmas also leo .

Im not going much further past 5mg for a while .

I see on your thread you drank ,don't be like me and pushing things to misery when they don't need to be .depending on how much you drank this could knock you back a good bit .I had a binge eating session myself today ,juice cleanse tomorrow lol.

 AS for family and external influences ,this is your body ,don't let anyone else cloud your judgement .

7months is still early days for withdrawl but you are the only one than can know when it becomes untenable.

Take care and enjoy holiday season 👍 .

 

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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On ‎12‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 10:50 AM, peng said:

PB

Wanting to do stuff is a good sign, I have found!  Make the most of it.

Best wishes.

Ah hi peng ,any snow in Scotland ,just wet I think .

the want to do things never left me ,not being  able and the acceptance of being handicaped  is always the hardest ,I've doors to hang and steps to build but the motivation isn't there so ile get my uncle to help ,the ego is taking a thrashing lol.

This year doing anything while severely impaired  but still doing it anyway has caused problems ,the worst when I sliced my leg open ,it seems a certain part of my brain for concentration is gone .it could be the extreme anxiety ,this is bound to cut off the solving problems part of the brain .I have often over thought something to the point of paralysis .

Hope your well my friend ,enjoy the rest of the  holiday season .

Take care .

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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On ‎12‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 10:43 AM, Steve61 said:

Hi PB. Just wanted  to drop by to wish you a peaceful Christmas. Hope that things are picking up for you. I must admit that I am dreading it this year. Just don’t like the extra stress, extra people etc. Makes my social anxiety 100 times worse. 

Good Luck

Steve

Made a conscious decision to leave the house yesterday [2 hours] ,I've barely gone for my walks  in months ,I couldn't face visitors ,my partners family .she understood ,she rang me to say they had gone but I was glad I got out .

Hope its been ok for you steve.

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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PB,

 

Happy holidays.  You, like many of us, are hesitant to ever suggest there is some improvement for fear that the Antidepressant Gods will come down on you with the wrath and fury we all fear.  I get the "fear of the jinx" as I've never been one to acknowledge any improvement (not that there's been a ton to write home about).  Nevertheless, based solely on the tenor of your posts, I am willing to surmise that you are seeing just the slightest of improvement that is giving you some of that ever elusive "hope."  If what I surmise is even remotely accurate, I'm pleased for you as you have certainly been through the wringer.

 

My wishes for improvement in 2019.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg from 2000 -- symptoms of dizziness Spring 2012

increased to .5 Clonazapam and 100mg Sertraline -- no improvement

Benzo microtaper from November 2012 to November 2014 (followed benzo sites "taper benzo first")

Started Sertraline taper in December 2014 cut by 25mg to 75mg; 62.5mg 1/1/15 and 50mg on 2/1/15

Held at 50mg through April 5 to use liquid 
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet of 25mg on 10/5/15

Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy while tapering -- Horrible insomnia -- back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016

10/16 -- 11/18 tapered very slowly to 10.6mg.  No real improvement and never really stable so updosed to 12.5mg (1/2 a pill) for convenience and long hold.

After 8+ months of holding with no noticeable improvement decided to add .4ml of liquid Prozac (about 1.5mg) to see if that improves the situation

Supplements, Magnesium, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine, Vit. C,

 

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50 minutes ago, apace41 said:

Nevertheless, based solely on the tenor of your posts, I am willing to surmise that you are seeing just the slightest of improvement that is giving you some of that ever elusive "hope." 

 

And over the Christmas period too, when many members notice their symptoms increasing because of the additional stress.

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It takes at least 4 days for most antidepressants to ramp up to a steady level in the bloodstream. Because Prozac has a longer half-life than other antidepressants, it can take more than a week to ramp up to full effect.

 

You are now feeling the effect of the Prozac you took at the beginning of the switch, which sounds like it's working.

 

How are you feeling now, what is your drug mix?

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11 hours ago, Altostrata said:

It takes at least 4 days for most antidepressants to ramp up to a steady level in the bloodstream. Because Prozac has a longer half-life than other antidepressants, it can take more than a week to ramp up to full effect.

 

You are now feeling the effect of the Prozac you took at the beginning of the switch, which sounds like it's working.

 

How are you feeling now, what is your drug mix?

Hi ALto,as from yesterday morning im on only 5mg prozac ,today is day 14 of switch

.im all over the place to be honest .

Vertigo today,,venlefax withdrawal .

Serious tension in kneck,shoulders.

My appetite us through the roof .

I believe prozac is holding off the worst of it .

Im still very far from ok .the next week will be interesting .

Thanks and take Care.

 

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, apace41 said:

PB,

 

Happy holidays.  You, like many of us, are hesitant to ever suggest there is some improvement for fear that the Antidepressant Gods will come down on you with the wrath and fury we all fear.  I get the "fear of the jinx" as I've never been one to acknowledge any improvement (not that there's been a ton to write home about).  Nevertheless, based solely on the tenor of your posts, I am willing to surmise that you are seeing just the slightest of improvement that is giving you some of that ever elusive "hope."  If what I surmise is even remotely accurate, I'm pleased for you as you have certainly been through the wringer.

 

My wishes for improvement in 2019.

 

Best,

 

Andy

HI andy happy holidays also .yesterday my mood was toxic most of the day and got better in the evening so we will see what time brings .

I appreciate your encouraging post .

Take care .

 

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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