Deise Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 04/02/2018 at 1:06 AM, nz11 said: Hi Deise I will keep this brief see my drug details Thanks for giving it your consideration nz11 Hi nz11. I'm not able to see your drug details as of now because I don't have my computer until tomorrow or Tuesday, and I can't see it on my phone I will definitely check it out as soon as I can! But is it related to tinnitus and ear problems also? 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted February 5, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, Deise said: But is it related to tinnitus and ear problems also? It about whatever you are experiencing as a result of being on, or coming off psychiatric drugs. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Deise Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 Thank you ChessieCat. I will definitely check it out as soon as I can! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Deise Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 Also, just to let everyone know, today I felt better than yesterday anxiety wise. I hope the accurate dose with the liquid will help me get back on track now! I bought some magnesium glycinate to start taking (is it good?) and some Epsom salt to try in baths. I'm also starting to exercise slowly this month. I'll begin with some Pilates classes! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
nz11 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Can you see this: Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Deise Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, nz11 said: Can you see this: Yes I can nz11! Can we make a submission if we don't live in Scotland? 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
nz11 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Deise it really would be awesome if you could submit something. No pressure though. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
nz11 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 yes of course. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Deise Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, nz11 said: yes of course. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. Oops, somehow I missed that Sorry! Yes I will submit my symptoms there! Thanks for letting me know! It's great that at least one government is looking into it. Slowly things might change. 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
nz11 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Deise said: It's great that at least one government is looking into it. Slowly things might change. Exactly! Heres hoping. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Deise Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Hello everyone. So it's been almost a month since I've changed to a DIY liquid form. At this moment the physical symptoms are the worse. I have for the past three weeks suffered with air hunger, almost constantly. I can do a deep breath and a few minutes later I'm air hunger again. My chest hurts a lot too. I did some blood work and everything was fine, except for my c reactive protein, which was 7.2, a bit elevated. But Dr said not to worry because it is probably nothing much. I am also still suffering from cracking noises in my ears which ENT said was rhinitis (I went for a second opinion). What I want to ask is: Could the change from pill to liquid be causing this? Although it has been almost a month? Is it normal to be difficult to adjust to a DIY liquid? I don't want to go back to tablets because I can't measure them accurately How long should I expect to feel like this? It's very scary and uncomfortable... 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 2, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) According to wiki: Biological half-life 12–13 hours (single dose), 22 hours (repeated dosing)[1 You may be experiencing interdose withdrawal. You could try splitting your dose in half and taking them 12 hours apart. Edited to add: From tips-for-tapering-off-luvox-fluvoxamine Luvox's half-life is the shortest of all SSRIs and it is well known to incur withdrawal symptoms. Edited March 2, 2018 by ChessieCat * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted Monday at 10:31 AM Administrator Share Posted Monday at 10:31 AM Hello, @Deise, how are you doing? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Sinanz Posted Tuesday at 08:30 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:30 AM On 3/2/2018 at 4:34 AM, Deise said: Hello everyone. So it's been almost a month since I've changed to a DIY liquid form. At this moment the physical symptoms are the worse. I have for the past three weeks suffered with air hunger, almost constantly. I can do a deep breath and a few minutes later I'm air hunger again. My chest hurts a lot too. I did some blood work and everything was fine, except for my c reactive protein, which was 7.2, a bit elevated. But Dr said not to worry because it is probably nothing much. I am also still suffering from cracking noises in my ears which ENT said was rhinitis (I went for a second opinion). What I want to ask is: Could the change from pill to liquid be causing this? Although it has been almost a month? Is it normal to be difficult to adjust to a DIY liquid? I don't want to go back to tablets because I can't measure them accurately How long should I expect to feel like this? It's very scary and uncomfortable... I had on fluvoxamineit is really nasty meds!!! Almost 2 years I have still some symptoms remains, it is withdraw symptoms, pls check your meds brand for liquid does it same market brand? And pls remember any change in your dosage may reveal such thing and last thing is fluvoxamine is short half life meds and should take twice a day, every 12 hours. I switch to clomipramine and Mirtazapin you can read my messed up meds story ... Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
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