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Maybe chemotherapy pills? But even those dont have these nasty withdrawals..

Risperdal 2mg for 14 days + 4mg for 2 days during my involuntary imprisonment on a psych hospital.

Started taking on june10th until june 25.

Never taken any other drugs prior or after this incident.

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Maybe only the pills that kill you immediately like rat poison

Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th . PPI Dexlant  30 mg taper has begun. Cutting 20% currently.  using zantac as needed.  Benzo is currently 0.10mg 

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I have a friend who went through chemo therapy followed by multiple pshyc drugs told me this, chemo is a piece of cake as compared to pshyc drug. And she didn't even have any problems withdrawal all those drugs, only the side effects.

 

As for poisons killing ppl immediately, it's still better than these pshyc drugs, as they put you into the worst longest most bazaar suffering as someone put it, it's below death!

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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Want to add one thing more, they take away your dignity nothing in the whole world does. I was so gphoping I can die but I can't die like this leaving my family suffer from the indignity

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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Lex I agree with you its a shame, in 50 yrs people will look back and wonder how the hell this was allowed to happen. I wish I abused other substances instead of SSRI. I would be healthier right now If I drank, smoked and took steroids everyday for the last 7 yrs.

Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th . PPI Dexlant  30 mg taper has begun. Cutting 20% currently.  using zantac as needed.  Benzo is currently 0.10mg 

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Id b astonished if there was .I have the constant fear of loosing everything because of my horrible symtoms .

 

At times im impossible to live with and i cant blame them.no self pity just reality.

 

Bring on the fight nasty drugs  

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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HI tjdeepthinker , good point about allowing yourself to b accepted for the way we are, couple of years ago a therapist told me I had the strongest self critic he had ever come across ,I found that very interesting ,I wouldn't even take positive praise from anyone let alone trying to cope with negative criticism .

since I've become aware of this I've been working on things like perfectionism and letting a positive praise sit with me and accept it and cope better with criticism and failure .

It is helping me hugely the last year because I'm stuck in a pit of symptoms and accepting sympathy and help from others when needed.

Knowledge is poor .

take care .

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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HI tjdeepthinker , good point about allowing yourself to b accepted for the way we are, couple of years ago a therapist told me I had the strongest self critic he had ever come across ,I found that very interesting ,I wouldn't even take positive praise from anyone let alone trying to cope with negative criticism .

since I've become aware of this I've been working on things like perfectionism and letting a positive praise sit with me and accept it and cope better with criticism and failure .

It is helping me hugely the last year because I'm stuck in a pit of symptoms and accepting sympathy and help from others when needed.

Knowledge is poor .

take care .

Hi Powerback,

 

I am also working on these things in my life at the moment! Letting go. And letting be... Sounds like yoiu have made some really good insights. I guess it's a working daily progress. -TJ

 

 

Hi TJ,exactly its a working progress and it can b very exciting learning to understand ourselves better without constantly judging ourselves so harshly and having more compassion.

For me personally when I realised the drugs don't solve my issues they just numbed me .I've been on a self discovery journey soaking up as much philosophy and phsycology as I can and its helped so much .I will warn anyone going down my route to do it under the supervision of a trained therapist first. [GP put me on drugs not therapist in my case].

I'm a big fan of a guy called gabor mate ,he has amazing insight into the human condition and very open about he's own story ,well worth a look at

The main thing is we should never judge ourselves for the pain in our lives or going on drugs and never stop learning about ourselves when the time or circumstances allow .   

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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I would quite honestly say no. Below death, for sure.

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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Yes. Incarceration in mental hospital. You can get a psych drug off the street and no one will ever know if you took a pill of it. But if you were in mental hospital, you'll have one helluva time afterward, if you live. If you go in for suicide, it's like you're a criminal. Forever. Try going in and having them threaten state on you.

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I've read quite a few horror stories about mefloquine, Anti-parasite malaria drug. I would say it ranks up there with psych drug horrors.

Prozac 1999-2009 quit semi cold turkey.

 

2012 Placed on Seroquel 25 mg, Tranxene (Clorezepate) 3.75 mg 3x a day, Remeron 30 mg for anxiety/akathesia.

 

Weaned off Seroquel and Tranxene .to Remeron 15 Mg.

In May 2014 tried quitting Remeron at its lowest dose. Had severe withdrawals.Reinstated Remeron at 30 mg by doctor. August 5 2014 entered hospital. Doctor pulled the Remeron and bridged it to Pamelor (Nortriptyline) 40mg and Zyprexa 2.5mg.After removing the Remeron all my bad symptoms went away and I am stable.

 

9/11/14 - 7.5 mg tranxene, 40mg Pamelor, Zyprexa 2.5mg

12/29/14 -  20mg Pamelor, 1/6/15,  7/31/15 3.5mg, 8/10/15 3.2 mg, 9/15/15 2.2mg, 10/15/15 1.8mg

(Feb 2016 - 1.4mg Pamelor only -  OFF OF TRANXENE AND ZYPREXA SINCE DEC 2014 BENZO FREE Since 2014. Nortrityline (Pamelor) .8mg Aug 2016

March 2017 DRUG FREE

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The Prednisone I took as my part of my Rchop chemotherapy was pretty evil.   

Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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Mercury poising is pretty bad I heard.  Your organs start to slowly fail and there isn't really anything they can do about it.

Starts collecting in your brain and well yeah kinda lick Psych drugs.

 

It was kinda common when thermometers used mercury I have heard.

My Intro FB Zyprexa 2015-September 2018

1st time I tried to come straight off of 10mg Zyprexa I was hospitalized for insane insomnia.

Current - Abilify Maintena & L Theanine(for akathisia)

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On 1/24/2017 at 11:40 PM, LexAnger said:

I have a friend who went through chemo therapy followed by multiple pshyc drugs told me this, chemo is a piece of cake as compared to pshyc drug. And she didn't even have any problems withdrawal all those drugs, only the side effects.

Wow, just saw this @LexAnger... so glad to have seen it. I have been dumbfounded by a friend, diagnosed with breast cancer, who just spent the past seven months on chemo/radiation and also got off a psych drug (Celexa although it might have been for a short time) on a fast taper or cold turkey. Nothing! She never felt WD, dealt with the chemo/radiation and is now being flown to another state for a new job. I've felt like such a sad Sally around her as her sickness was much "more." So heartened to see that your friend validated what I kinda thought had to be true. It doesn't change the fact that I try not to mention it to her and I know she thinks I am just letting myself fall away but people have no clue how hard WD is! Thanks.

  • Prozac | late 2004-mid-2005 | CT WD in a couple months, mostly emotional
  • Sertraline 50-100mg | 11/2011-3/2014, 10/2014-3/2017
  • Sertraline fast taper March 2017, 4 weeks, OFF sertraline April 1, 2017
  • Quit alcohol May 20, 2017
  • Lifestyle changes: AA, kundalini yoga

 

"If you've seen a monster, even if it's horrible, that's evidence of divinity." – Damien Echols

 

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On 1/26/2017 at 5:58 AM, tjdeepthinker said:

I have lost many family members to cancer. It is NOT EASY. But everyone steps up... You know? To help. Instead of shaming you, and not believing you. I think, for me. That is the hardest part. Feeling alone in my suffering. When the withdrawals get tough, or a life event gets tough... I feel alone. There is nothing I can.. 'Do'. There really isn't. Except maybe hope. Or pray...

Exactly!

  • Prozac | late 2004-mid-2005 | CT WD in a couple months, mostly emotional
  • Sertraline 50-100mg | 11/2011-3/2014, 10/2014-3/2017
  • Sertraline fast taper March 2017, 4 weeks, OFF sertraline April 1, 2017
  • Quit alcohol May 20, 2017
  • Lifestyle changes: AA, kundalini yoga

 

"If you've seen a monster, even if it's horrible, that's evidence of divinity." – Damien Echols

 

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So true both of you!,

 

We are not trying to or ever try to compare with other illness, but the pshyc wd left you with tons unique and very difficult challenges other condition might not, such as no one, in the whole universe knows what is the right thing to do, every day and minute for unknown period of time with unknown outcome. You have to go search being your own scientist and doctor, nurse, care giver, and being mentally stressed every minute with your experiment on top of the wd sxs. There is no temp relief of any of the sxs either. All you can do is endure day in and day out in the darkest hell ALONE. No one else's experience can help you as it's so individualized, so many hidden bombs that you can only know by being bombed at least once or often times multiple time without a clue. You can't use your energy to take care of yourself by giving all the decision to a professional as there is none. You can't be the strongest human to fight as your soul and mental is the core being taken. Of course the social stigma and shame of feeling mentally ill. If tour cognitive is also impacted then you would be surely shamed in another way (the greatest shame myself). There are tons others no other illness have to face but this one. If I can add just one more, you dont even have the privilege to die gravefully or normally if you do want to. 

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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It's a special kind of hell....or purgatory. 

 

I pray to get cancer just to know there's an end in sight. I would never do chemo or any life extending treatments.  

Suffering since 1993. Enough is enough.

 

 

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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