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@Peachy

 

hey Peachy—I just saw your message. I am saying me too to the anger and irritation. It is so irrational...weirdly mine has cycled through with my TOM. It lingers for a week with the intensity fluctuating and then disappears. I’ve read numerous posts on here that say if it comes and goes to just chalk it up to withdrawal so that’s what I’m doing. But it is alarming and scary to me as well. One day I just screamed at my husband in the car. This is so foreign to me and luckily he knows it’s not me either. I hung up on him and a few minutes later called him back and apologized profusely. I try to not dwell on it because it’s not me. Luckily I now know (more than I used to) that the real me will return 100% eventually. A lot of times I just need reassurance and I am thankful when the other people on here provide that. It is much easier to say these things to you though than actually believe it myself. Hope that helps. 

 

Hugs—- Sheera


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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Peachy

Hi @Sheera

 

Thank you for responding! It's very re-assuring. It is very connected to my TOM as well. 

 

Mine is very scary for me right now bc it feels distorted. It's hard to explain. Someone can say something totally normal, even a joke, and I will experience the wrong emotion, which is normally anger and irritation. The emotion doesn't fit the situation. Sometimes even the sound of the voice stays in my head and repeats. Its so bizarre I don't even know how to explain it...

 

Ever have anything like this? It's so so scary and disorienting. 


med history: 17 years total

Concerta: 2 yrs - cold turkey, brought on first "depression" 

Short trials of Zoloft and Effexor: 1-3 years - multiple cold turkey's brought on OCD intrusive thoughts for the first time

Lexapro 15-20 mg (16 yrs)  - tried to quit once, cold turkey, worst WD ever, had to go on to 20mg to stop WD

Welbutrin 150mg (8-ish yrs) NO w/d symptoms from CT

Adderall 5-7.5mg (8-10-ish yrs) quit CT, brought on many WD symptoms, but manageable. 

 

Begin taper March 2018 Currently on 4.4 mg lexapro - down from 20mg

 

Symptoms depression, horrible intrusive thoughts and urges, new onset PMS/PMDD, constant extreme irritation and anger, visual hallucinations, irrational thinking patterns, panic, nausea, dizzy, intolerance to working out, chemical sensitivities, noise sensitivities, memory issues, heart palps, etc. 

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Sheera

@Peachy I cannot say I’ve had that exactly but I’ve had a lot of weird stuff. Try to not analyze it too much. “Try” to chalk it up to another day toward getting better. With all of the other weird physical symptoms and emotional ones, it makes sense that this is just another attempt for your brain to try and rewire. Weirdly I’ve noticed that my TOM symptoms last about 3 cycles and disappear. I’ve had this anger/irritation one the last few cycles so I’m hoping it’s getting near the end. 

 

Hugs—Sheera 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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Peachy
16 hours ago, Sheera said:

 I cannot say I’ve had that exactly but I’ve had a lot of weird stuff. Try to not analyze it too much. “Try” to chalk it up to another day toward getting better. With all of the other weird physical symptoms and emotional ones, it makes sense that this is just another attempt for your brain to try and rewire.

 

Thanks for saying that! It's more re-assuring than you know :)

16 hours ago, Sheera said:

 Weirdly I’ve noticed that my TOM symptoms last about 3 cycles and disappear. I’ve had this anger/irritation one the last few cycles so I’m hoping it’s getting near the end. 

 

That's fascinating! I have different TOM symptoms now than I had a year ago... I wonder if this is the same for me as well...

I use to get migranes, and for the last 2 I haven't had any... Hopefully this anger/irritation will fade for us both :)

xx

Peachy


med history: 17 years total

Concerta: 2 yrs - cold turkey, brought on first "depression" 

Short trials of Zoloft and Effexor: 1-3 years - multiple cold turkey's brought on OCD intrusive thoughts for the first time

Lexapro 15-20 mg (16 yrs)  - tried to quit once, cold turkey, worst WD ever, had to go on to 20mg to stop WD

Welbutrin 150mg (8-ish yrs) NO w/d symptoms from CT

Adderall 5-7.5mg (8-10-ish yrs) quit CT, brought on many WD symptoms, but manageable. 

 

Begin taper March 2018 Currently on 4.4 mg lexapro - down from 20mg

 

Symptoms depression, horrible intrusive thoughts and urges, new onset PMS/PMDD, constant extreme irritation and anger, visual hallucinations, irrational thinking patterns, panic, nausea, dizzy, intolerance to working out, chemical sensitivities, noise sensitivities, memory issues, heart palps, etc. 

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Sheera

@Peachy some added humor because I need to find some in the craziness. For a few cycles my boobs were so sore I thought I was pregnant again. 😳 I’m super glad that wasn’t the case but I think I’d take that physical symptom over these weird emotional ones where I feel like I’m crazy. 

 

Hugs—Sheera 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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Rosetta

HI, Sheera,. Thanks for your not on my thread.  Sorry you are struggling with TOM.  Mine are horrible, too. -R


https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Sheera

Journal—I am trying to be calm and accepting of the fact that my TOM is coming soon. It’s usually a really hard week and comes with weird symptoms. The last few months I was super angry. This “withdrawal normal” has me in an Anhedonia stage which is maybe better than full out anxiety but still really hard. I’ve found that I’m pressuring myself to care and think positive. I see inspirational quotes and people setting goals and I just can’t. I’m usually so goal oriented and right now 🤷🏻‍♀️  I’m sitting in the gym parking lot doing this instead of working out.  Decisions are hard because I’m not sure what I want.  Who am I?  


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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Gridley

Sheera,

 

Apathy, lack of motivation, and anhedonia are common withdrawal symptoms.  I have them for sure.  Be kind to yourself.


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Sept.23, 2020 at 0.05mg

Taper is 99.75% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Rosetta

Oh, Sheera, I've been through that feeling so many times.  Who we "are" seems to depend on whether our neurotransmitters are available and being used properly.  It's amazing to me.  Due to this experience I realize just how difficult it is to be who I want to be.  I simply have to remember who I was and remind myself that I will get back to being that person eventually.  Meanwhile, Gridley's advice is perfect - be kind to yourself.  A person with a broken leg can't walk without help.  We can't do what we want to sometimes either.  You are no more responsible for that than if you had a broken leg.  Fortunately, sometimes we can walk and go outdoors and get a little bit of a boost for  the neurotransmitters via sunlight.  Just driving to the gym is an accomplishment!!!  Good job.


https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Rabe

Hi Sheera, I want you to know that you are not alone.  Most everyday I look in the mirror and see someone I dont recognize and look into my heart and feel someone I dont recognize...there is so little there....i have beautiful new grandchildren and I feel so little joy for them, for my children, for the desire to be with thenm or family, to stay in contact with friends, for the upcoming holidays and on and on.  I am not the person I was for my whole life and it is so difficult.  The only thing that helps are those moments when I do feel a minute of what I used to feel...and then it is gone except for my journal.  

Wanted you to know that I am thinking about you!!!  I have ti believe that it will get better...it has for others here.  Take care!!!💜


-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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LilBit

Sheera I can tell you from experience that you are absolutely not alone!  If you read my intro topic you will see what a tough time I am continuing to have.  I am still struggling with acceptance and how much this has transformed me as a person.   However, reading your experience and seeing your positive attitude has shown me that acceptance is the most important thing in recovery, and that dwelling on what i used to be able to do and how I got here will do me absolutely no good at all.  Thanks for the inspiration 😊


Diazepam (Valium) started 20mg daily - July 6 2018 - July 10 2018 PRN, tapered off from Aug 1 to Aug 24 2018, 2mg Sept 6, 2018 - present
Quetiapine (Seroquel) started 50mg Aug 15, 2018 - 22.5mg Oct 14 - Jan 12 2019, 20mg Jan 13 2019 - present
 
Depakote tapered from 1500mg Oct 2 2018 - 0mg as of Dec 7, 2019
Doxepin 10mg Aug 24 2018 - Aug 27 2018
Ambien CR 6.25mg Aug 3 2018 - Aug 10 2018
Trazodone 50mg Nov 7 2017 - Nov 21 2017, 50-100mg  Jul 16 - July19 2018, 100mg Aug 1 - Aug 2 2018
Eszopiclone 3mg nightly Jul 21 - Jul 30 2018
Lorazepam (Ativan) 2mg as needed (nightly) Jul 25 - Jul 30 2018 . 1mg daily Jul 21 - Jul 24 2018 . 1mg every other day Jul 12 - Jul 20 2018.
Temazepam (Restoril) 22.5 mg Nov 2016 - Nov 7 2017, started back Nov 21 2017  tapered down to 7.5mg over a week’s time Jul 13 - Jul 19 2018 then took 30mg on July 20 2018
Mirtazapine 7.5mg July 21 - Jul 25 2018
Paroxetine (Paxil) 10mg 5 days 20mg 2 days  Jun 28 - Jul 4 2018,   Effexor 37.5mg Jun 22 - Jun 28 2018   Lexapro 10mg Jun 14 - Jun 16 2018
Lithium Carbide 900mg Nov 2017 - Jun 27 2018
Klonopin 0.5mg May 21 - Jul 2 2018
Aripiprazole  (Abilify) 5mg Dec 2017 - May 24 2018, 2.5mg May 25 - Jun 6 2018
Latuda 40mg Oct 12 - Oct 24 2017
Lamotrigine (Lamictal) 150mg July 2017 - Oct 2017 tapered off by taking 50mg less every 3 days

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Sheera

@Gridley @Rabe @Rosetta @LilBit

 

Thank you all for your words of encouragement.  It is true—I need to be kind to myself. I know how I would normally feel so I just need to be okay with right now not feeling those feelings. Instead of getting annoyed/angry that I don’t. I have been lax on my meditation lately and I think I need to get back into it. It keeps me more focused outside of my head/self instead of dwelling on my symptoms. 

 

Hugs—Sheera 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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On 10/28/2018 at 5:42 PM, Sheera said:

Sunday evenings are just terrible for me. And I don’t know how to make them better. I’m not sure why I get so crabby irritable and anxious on Sunday nights. I’ve never had that before WD so I’m assuming that it will go away eventually. I have tried a million different strategies to get myself in the right mindset and I can’t prevent the doom cloud from taking over. Does anyone have any words of assurance that this will eventually leave?  I know in my heart that I love my job even though I don’t “feel” it lately. Maybe I have felt some sadness in the past that the weekend was over but now it’s magnified by my neuroemotions and feels devastating instead of the normal level of sadness?  

 

On a side note, what I am discussing seems trivial to the other WD symptoms I have experienced and I know others are experiencing right now. So that is a bonus for me and shows the progress I am making. Praying for patience and acceptance right now. 


Hi Sheera, 

I've been on this site for years and am trying to reach out to newbies the way people reached out to me when I was in acute.  I think I'm caught up on your thread, and I'm incredibly encouraged by your progress!  I know that you are still struggling, but I don't think your progress has stymied.  The first two years off meds are the roughest, and you're still inside that timeframe, which means you do still have healing in your future.  I'm completely certain that your love for your job will eventually return, but your brain is still in recovery from meds.  The meds really do a number on our head and heart.  This experience will certainly change you, but it will not leave you permanently out of love with your job.

My hypothesis is that Sundays now feel terrible because your body and brain subconsciously know you're still healing and would probably prefer to rest for 100 years before going back to work the next day—even though it "seems" like you "shouldn't" still be feeling this way at two years off.  Your identification of neuro-emotions sounds right on the money to me.  It's stunning how deeply and for how long these meds effects reverberate.  It's too bad you can't take a year-long sabbatical from work, because I bet it would allow you to come back re-energized.  You've never really gotten to rest full-time is what it sounds like, and rest is a key part of recovery; regardless, I do think that loving your job again will come back with time.  It's just that everything in WD takes waaaaaay longer than we think it will.  


**I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, merely personal experience
***Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not
-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014

-All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness.  It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage.  All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors 

-Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine

-Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey)

-Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011
-Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less)

-Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week

-Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs 

-First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened

-Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD.  Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed.  NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it.

-Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned
-Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia
-Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat
-Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged
-4 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia

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Sheera

Journal—I had a great weekend with some old friends. I laughed so much and was able to be fully present. This is a positive. I see them every year about this time and this is the first in quite a few that it has felt so good. My dread on Sunday was pretty minimal—I did most of my work on Friday night so I wasn’t feeling the pressure I usually feel to get stuff done on Sundays. Fast forward today—I had some VERY rude and disrespectful students and I could NOT manage them. Usually I can focus on the positives and can get them back on track. Today it was despair. I had to have someone cover my class so I could take a moment to myself. Thank goodness for that.  I’m pretty sure this is a TOM combined with WD reaction to my job but I’m just not sure. It’s just really hard. I feel out of control and not suited to teach when I have these overwhelming emotions.  Now I’m home and ALL I can think about is my terrible day at school. I want to let it go—there’s nothing I can do about it now but I’m just under this cloud. I’m hoping it will pass soon. Maybe my students will be better tomorrow. Maybe I will feel better tomrrow. I am dreading tomorrow. 

 

 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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ChessieCat

You managed it the right way, you got assistance.  Dreading returning to a bad situation is normal.  I had that happen last week.  I had to return to work after being a crying mess in front of colleagues in the office the week before.  I was embarrassed out it.  I was concerned that going back would trigger me and I'd end up crying again.  However, I told myself that I only had do it once and I just put one foot in front of the other.

 

Knowing what the symptoms of anxiety are helped.  As soon as I drove in the driveway I started feeling sick in the stomach.  But I knew what it was, so it didn't scare and add second fear (fear of the fear) and I took a few deep breaths and it lessened and I kept telling myself that I would be okay.

 

And what happened to you has probably happened to thousands of teachers around the world.  And it has probably happened to your own colleagues.  It's just hard when it happens to you and it's you that has to get through it.  But you can.  It may be uncomfortable but you will survive it.

 

Are you able to have a back up plan in place in case you need it?  Just having a Plan B can help you feel more in control.  If you need support for the specific situation at school (ie not WD!), ask for help at school.  They should provide the support you need for situations like this.

 

I hope it goes okay for you.

 

These might help:

 

dealing-with-emotional-spirals

 

On 4/28/2017 at 4:03 AM, brassmonkey said:

AAF: Acknowledge, Accept, Float.  It's what you have to do when nothing else works, and can be a very powerful tool in coping with anxiety.  The neuroemotional anxiety many of us feel during WD is directly caused by the drugs and their chemical reactions in the brain.  Making it so there is nothing we can do about them.  They won't respond to other drugs, relaxation techniques and the like.  They do, however, react very well to being ignored.  That's the concept behind AAF.  Acknowledge, get to know the feeling involved, explore them.  Accept, These feelings are a part of you and they aren't going anywhere fast. Float, let the feeling float off as you get on with your life as best as you can.  It's a well documented fact that the more you feed in to anxiety the worse it gets.  What starts as generalized neuroemotinal anxiety can be easily blown into a full fledged panic attack just by thinking about it.

 

I often liken it to an unwanted house guest.  At first you talk to them, have conversations, communicate with them.  After a while you figure out that they aren't leaving and there is nothing you can do to get rid of them.  So you go on about your day, working around them until they get bored and leave.

 

It can take some practice, but AAF really does work.  I hope you give it a try.

 


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Sheera

@ChessieCat thanks for the reminder on the AAF. I was doing that a lot with other anxiety and it helped a lot. Sometimes I don’t know if what I’m experiencing is “true” or not since it is stuff that is work related. Should I be freaking out about this?  My other anxieties are really far out in left field so that’s usually easy to determine. I think though that if I do the AAF I will at least have time to calm down and I won’t go down the rabbit hole of neuroemotions. Once I’m calm then I can reflect on 1) that it was rational or 2) blown way out of proportion. Nothing is life or death right now that I need to make a decision ASAP.  Even though yesterday felt like it. 

 

This helps me a lot. 

Thank you—

Sheera


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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ChessieCat

Yes, it can give you a bit of reprieve.  It might be helpful to write down a list of concerns and prioritise them, even noting what action needs to be taken.  It can be helpful getting things out your head so they aren't swirling around and around.


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Sheera

Journal:  Today was hard. I did not sleep well. I have been in this sleep wave where I dream all night long and I don’t wake up rested at all. The dreams are very vivid and I don’t “feel” like I’ve made it to the deep sleep state. I woke up depressed this morning and had to drag myself to work. I have two students who are being terrible and it is hard to focus on anything good in my classroom even though it’s happening. I try to be positive but my body language is tired and sad. Teaching is a hard job in withdrawal. I want to be my old self who loved my job and enjoyed my students. I have felt it before. I have also had amazing sleep in my last window. That was in September. I keep trying to remind myself that if I liked my job at one point that it will come back. At the same time, I am fearful that maybe I’m just not right to be a teacher anymore???  Maybe I’ve become someone who can’t handle life?  I used to believe that though. Now I know I just have to wait. But waiting is hard. 

 

The same with the sleep. It will come back eventually. That is why I am writing it here. To convince myself of that. I am tired. 

 

I am thankful for only two days of school next week. I am hopeful it will be good for me. 

 

 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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LilBit

Sheera,

 

Hang in there.... I don’t even know how you are managing a job like teaching with how you are feeling and going through withdrawal.  It must be extremely tough.  I can completely relate to the sleep issue, I have not gotten more than 4-5 hours of broken sleep in one night for the past 4 months.  My eyes are sunken and pink.  I too also get in my own head WAY too much because of all of the withdrawal symptoms and how they constantly change.  I have been told by many people that I need to look forward, not backward, which I know is true, but is easier said than done.

 

My heart goes out to you and I hope you see another window soon.  I am still in the process of withdrawing from my meds so I have a very long journey ahead of me.  Right now I am trying to get off of Depakote and have a liver scare with many GI and CNS symptoms, so that is the first goal.  Sometimes I feel confident I can get through it, sometimes I am a crying hysterical mess and thank God I have my partner to support me through those times.  All we can do is take it a day at a time and put one foot in front of the other, and support each other as best as we can.


Diazepam (Valium) started 20mg daily - July 6 2018 - July 10 2018 PRN, tapered off from Aug 1 to Aug 24 2018, 2mg Sept 6, 2018 - present
Quetiapine (Seroquel) started 50mg Aug 15, 2018 - 22.5mg Oct 14 - Jan 12 2019, 20mg Jan 13 2019 - present
 
Depakote tapered from 1500mg Oct 2 2018 - 0mg as of Dec 7, 2019
Doxepin 10mg Aug 24 2018 - Aug 27 2018
Ambien CR 6.25mg Aug 3 2018 - Aug 10 2018
Trazodone 50mg Nov 7 2017 - Nov 21 2017, 50-100mg  Jul 16 - July19 2018, 100mg Aug 1 - Aug 2 2018
Eszopiclone 3mg nightly Jul 21 - Jul 30 2018
Lorazepam (Ativan) 2mg as needed (nightly) Jul 25 - Jul 30 2018 . 1mg daily Jul 21 - Jul 24 2018 . 1mg every other day Jul 12 - Jul 20 2018.
Temazepam (Restoril) 22.5 mg Nov 2016 - Nov 7 2017, started back Nov 21 2017  tapered down to 7.5mg over a week’s time Jul 13 - Jul 19 2018 then took 30mg on July 20 2018
Mirtazapine 7.5mg July 21 - Jul 25 2018
Paroxetine (Paxil) 10mg 5 days 20mg 2 days  Jun 28 - Jul 4 2018,   Effexor 37.5mg Jun 22 - Jun 28 2018   Lexapro 10mg Jun 14 - Jun 16 2018
Lithium Carbide 900mg Nov 2017 - Jun 27 2018
Klonopin 0.5mg May 21 - Jul 2 2018
Aripiprazole  (Abilify) 5mg Dec 2017 - May 24 2018, 2.5mg May 25 - Jun 6 2018
Latuda 40mg Oct 12 - Oct 24 2017
Lamotrigine (Lamictal) 150mg July 2017 - Oct 2017 tapered off by taking 50mg less every 3 days

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4 hours ago, Sheera said:

Journal:  Today was hard. I did not sleep well. I have been in this sleep wave where I dream all night long and I don’t wake up rested at all. The dreams are very vivid and I don’t “feel” like I’ve made it to the deep sleep state. I woke up depressed this morning and had to drag myself to work. I have two students who are being terrible and it is hard to focus on anything good in my classroom even though it’s happening. I try to be positive but my body language is tired and sad. Teaching is a hard job in withdrawal. I want to be my old self who loved my job and enjoyed my students. I have felt it before. I have also had amazing sleep in my last window. That was in September. I keep trying to remind myself that if I liked my job at one point that it will come back. At the same time, I am fearful that maybe I’m just not right to be a teacher anymore???  Maybe I’ve become someone who can’t handle life?  I used to believe that though. Now I know I just have to wait. But waiting is hard. 

 

The same with the sleep. It will come back eventually. That is why I am writing it here. To convince myself of that. I am tired. 

 

I am thankful for only two days of school next week. I am hopeful it will be good for me. 

 

 

 

Hi Sheera, 

 

Just wanted to say I am so sorry you are struggling so much, withdrawals certainly are the worst thing we will ever go through in our lives. Unless someone has gone through them they have no idea.

 

Not sleeping would be horrible. I’m sleeping because the Seroquel puts me to sleep but I know I will probably get rebound insomnia from it eventually. Just taking a day at a time though, can’t think too far ahead as it doesn’t serve a purpose. 

 

Wow, you are teaching despite withdrawals. That must be so hard but you have so much experience in being a teacher, I’m sure that your students appreciate all the hard work you put into helping them even if you feel sad. Those naughty two students of yours though!  It’s a horrible feeling when we don’t feel like ourselves, sometimes we feel like strangers in our own bodies. 

 

All we can can do is just take a day at a time, an hour at a time, a minute at a time. 

 

That’s good you have a bit more time for yourself next week, please do some things that you enjoy even if you’re feeling too anhedonic to enjoy them. I try n do things that I would normally enjoy even if I can’t feel the joy behind these activities.

 

I’m so sorry you are still suffering from withdrawals since coming off your meds in 2016. It’s a long journey, isn’t it? We get there in the end though. Wouldn’t it be great if we knew when?

 

Sending hugs🤗

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Been on antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressants and painkillers for chronic pain. 

Have been cold turkeyed and put on and off all sorts of things.  Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward because I had akathisia from withdrawals. I can’t remember what I was put on but when I was released was in the same predicament with severe akathisia n was suicidal again.

Back to the psych ward and I was given a number of different drugs while there. Tapered off one when I got home n have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. It’s been years, tapering slowly but still having severe withdrawals.

I’ve  tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./ March 10th 2019=7.25mg / 17th of April 2019= 7mg / June 5th=6.75mg/ July 14th=6.50mg/ 28th of August=6.25mg/ 10th of Oct= 6.20mg/ 21st October 6mg/ 16th of December 5.80mg/21st of January 5.60mg/

 

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

 

 

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Sheera

@Carmieand @LilBit thank you for your response. It means a lot to hear encouragement from people who know what WD feels like. There are two people in my life who know about the WD so it can be lonely at times. I don’t feel comfortable sharing with others knowing most of their response would be—go back on the drugs!  

 

I wouldn’t recommend teaching during WD although at times it does bring me joy and I know it used to in the past so I’m sure somewhere in there it is probably helping my recovery.  Like I said the biggest problem are a few students in my class who are acting out. The hardest part for me is deciding if this is just WD that is making me so upset with them or is it legitimate?  I guess I just have to trust my years of experience to know that I have tried everything and it’s okay to ask for help. No one is perfect. That is definitely a WD problem for me. I never used to feel the need to do everything exactly right. During windows I feel laid back again and it’s wonderful. During WD I question everything. I am going to work on giving myself grace today and being vulnerable. And like you both advised, one minute at a time. 

 

Thanks for your support. It means a lot. 

 

Sheera


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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Sheera

Journal—today was a better day. I slept terribly but got up right away because my mind was racing. I felt more positive at school—it was easy to be nice. This is what’s so frustrating. Yesterday everything made me mad. Today—I found the goodness. I am thankful that today was better. 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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9 hours ago, Sheera said:

Journal—today was a better day. I slept terribly but got up right away because my mind was racing. I felt more positive at school—it was easy to be nice. This is what’s so frustrating. Yesterday everything made me mad. Today—I found the goodness. I am thankful that today was better. 

 

Hi Sheera, 

 

I find the same thing, if I wake up feeling distressed I try not to lie there n just do nothing. I don’t work though because of my illness n some days I can’t get out of bed but I make sure I start listening to an audiobook or put on a DVD or watch something on YouTube or read or do some arts n crafts etc. I distract myself. I find just lying there n doing nothing makes me more anxious. 

 

Yes, our emotions are definitely all over the place, we don’t know how we will be from one second to the next n when those exaggerated neuro-emotions kick in, well that’s another story. I was feeling immensely sad all morning but I’m feeling a bit better now. 

 

Teaching must be hard when going through withdrawals. You said that you never felt the need to do everything right, but it’s true in withdrawals we can become a bit obsessive compulsive. It’s not the real us though.

 

Take care💚

 

 

 


Been on antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressants and painkillers for chronic pain. 

Have been cold turkeyed and put on and off all sorts of things.  Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward because I had akathisia from withdrawals. I can’t remember what I was put on but when I was released was in the same predicament with severe akathisia n was suicidal again.

Back to the psych ward and I was given a number of different drugs while there. Tapered off one when I got home n have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. It’s been years, tapering slowly but still having severe withdrawals.

I’ve  tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./ March 10th 2019=7.25mg / 17th of April 2019= 7mg / June 5th=6.75mg/ July 14th=6.50mg/ 28th of August=6.25mg/ 10th of Oct= 6.20mg/ 21st October 6mg/ 16th of December 5.80mg/21st of January 5.60mg/

 

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

 

 

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Sheera

@Carmie thanks for the encouragement Carmie. It sure is nice when people drop by to offer support. I’m not sure what I would do without this site. I often get on just to read success stories and other people’s problems so I don’t feel alone. I’m very thankful for SA. 

 

Journal: I slept better last night so that is good. I’m hoping tonight will be even better with it being Friday. I am putting a lot of pressure on myself to be excited for this weekend but I’m not feeling much of anything. I’m just going through the motions. There is such a fine line for me between acceptance and giving up. I work to accept but then I am wondering “if I just worked harder” maybe I wouldn’t feel like this. It’s a vicious cycle. I am continually working on giving myself grace.  I keep trying to remind myself that someone with a broken leg would take the time they need to heal. I need to do the same.  Well—this is where I am right now. Maybe by tomorrow I will be feeling a little more rested.

 

 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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HI, Sheera, I hope you can enjoy Thanksgiving break from school.  Take care, Rosetta


https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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On 11/16/2018 at 5:51 PM, Sheera said:

I’m not feeling much of anything. I’m just going through the motions. There is such a fine line for me between acceptance and giving up. I work to accept but then I am wondering “if I just worked harder” maybe I wouldn’t feel like this. It’s a vicious cycle. I am continually working on giving myself grace.  I keep trying to remind myself that someone with a broken leg would take the time they need to heal. I need to do the same.

 

Thank you for all that Sheera!  I am sorry for what you are feeling but grateful you shared it because it makes me know I do not have a case of terminal uniqueness.  You are moving forward!  Bless you!  💜


-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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On 11/17/2018 at 9:51 AM, Sheera said:

@Carmie thanks for the encouragement Carmie. It sure is nice when people drop by to offer support. I’m not sure what I would do without this site. I often get on just to read success stories and other people’s problems so I don’t feel alone. I’m very thankful for SA. 

 

Journal: I slept better last night so that is good. I’m hoping tonight will be even better with it being Friday. I am putting a lot of pressure on myself to be excited for this weekend but I’m not feeling much of anything. I’m just going through the motions. There is such a fine line for me between acceptance and giving up. I work to accept but then I am wondering “if I just worked harder” maybe I wouldn’t feel like this. It’s a vicious cycle. I am continually working on giving myself grace.  I keep trying to remind myself that someone with a broken leg would take the time they need to heal. I need to do the same.  Well—this is where I am right now. Maybe by tomorrow I will be feeling a little more rested.

 

 

 

Hi Sheera, 

 

I know, what would people do without this site, especially when doctors keep tapering people off so quickly n cold-turkeying them n then saying it has nothing to do with withdrawals, it’s your old symptoms coming back. Some of us didn’t even have old symptoms, we were put on meds for pain or insomnia n then ended up with a million symptoms because of the meds n withdrawals.

 

Yes, we really need to be gentle with ourselves in this process. No amount of “working hard” will rescue us from withdrawals. It’s chemical, all we can do is ride the waves and enjoy the windows when they come. In the meantime we need to distract ourselves when going through waves n make some happy memories when in windows. 

 

Hope you’re getting some sleep, Sending hugs🤗


Been on antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressants and painkillers for chronic pain. 

Have been cold turkeyed and put on and off all sorts of things.  Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward because I had akathisia from withdrawals. I can’t remember what I was put on but when I was released was in the same predicament with severe akathisia n was suicidal again.

Back to the psych ward and I was given a number of different drugs while there. Tapered off one when I got home n have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. It’s been years, tapering slowly but still having severe withdrawals.

I’ve  tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./ March 10th 2019=7.25mg / 17th of April 2019= 7mg / June 5th=6.75mg/ July 14th=6.50mg/ 28th of August=6.25mg/ 10th of Oct= 6.20mg/ 21st October 6mg/ 16th of December 5.80mg/21st of January 5.60mg/

 

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

 

 

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Sheera

Question---I have been having pain in my left side around my heart area as a symptom for quite awhile now.  Sometimes it's racing heart but mostly it feels like someone is squeezing it.  I have attributed it to WD and just want to confirm that the feeling I'm getting is a WD symptom.  It's not there all the time.  It is there mostly when I am feeling anxious about something.  Sometimes it just happens on its own and I've tried not to add second fear to it.  I've had panic before and had my heart checked out and it was nothing.  I don't even know what I would say if I went to the doctor because it's so random and I believe it's withdrawal.  I just wondered if anyone had any thoughts about this?


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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There are many existing topics on this site.  I like to use google and add survivingantidepressants.org to my search term.  I found the following by searching survivingantidepressants.org heart:

 

chest-pain-and-stabbing-pain-in-the-heart

 

has-anyone-felt-heart-zaps

 

irregular-heartbeats-palpitations-tachycardia-bradycardia

 

eating-as-an-activating-factor-increasing-anxiety-or-symptoms

 

withdrawal-symptoms-mimic-heart-attack


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Sheera

@ChessieCat thanks for the info. I gave info second fear today and followed the what if’s. Thankfully we have this site and other people who have experienced all of this to get us through. I’m sure I’d be back on the AD if it wasn’t for SA. As I was talking to my husband about getting checked out at the dr he was concerned they would try to give me more medication. He’s right—I’m trying to avoid the drs as much as I can. 

 

 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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@Carmie you are so right—making the memories when we feel good is important. I have made good memories even while going through this and that is an accomplishment. I did not sleep better last night—all night dreaming again—but I woke up less depressed and less anxious than I have in awhile. I’m really trying to be in the moment and not in my head—a definite work in progress. 

 

Hugs—Sheera


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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13 minutes ago, Sheera said:

As I was talking to my husband about getting checked out at the dr he was concerned they would try to give me more medication.

 

But you also have the right to refuse medication.  It's about how you talk to the medical professionals.  If something continues to concern you it can be a good idea to get it checked out.

 

When talking to the medical professionals, you need to be calm and assertive without coming across as a know it all.  It's a good idea to write a script and practice what you want to say and how you are going to say it.  It might also be helpful to take your husband along with you.  If they suggest a drug ask what the drug would do, or is for (is it to cure or cover symptoms) and say that you would like to think about it.  Make sure you get the details of the drug, better written down so you don't forget or get it wrong.  You can then do your research.  These topics might provide some helpful ideas.

 

How do you talk to a doctor about tapering and withdrawal?


What should I expect from my doctor about withdrawal symptoms? 


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Hi Sheera...my heart feels not right a lot...not sure if that is reassuring..but I do think I have read many people say the same.  Please get it checked if you continue to get symptoms.  I dont think a heart doctor would give you medication...perhaps a test or two...at least I dont think he would.  Take care! Thinking about you!💜


-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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@ChessieCat I just wanted to thank you for what you shared here to SHeera...I copied and pasted it to have to read.  Grateful!💜


-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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11 hours ago, Sheera said:

@Carmie you are so right—making the memories when we feel good is important. I have made good memories even while going through this and that is an accomplishment. I did not sleep better last night—all night dreaming again—but I woke up less depressed and less anxious than I have in awhile. I’m really trying to be in the moment and not in my head—a definite work in progress. 

 

Hugs—Sheera

 

Hi Sheera, 

 

I’m sorry you had trouble sleeping again, but that’s great that you woke up less depressed. Yes, I think we’re all a work in progress,  this is definitely not an easy journey.

 

I still make happy memories in waves as well, even though I can’t feel the joy in them or I’m anxious, a weird chemical anxiousness.  I do take lots of photos though n it’s always fun to edit them and it’s been a great distraction. If I can’t get out n about I’ll take photos of my cat or the millions of birds that come to our balcony to feed every day, or projects I’m doing etc. There’s always something one can photograph even when housebound.

 

 I’m glad you are still able see the positives in waves, that’s a good attitude. All we can do is take each moment as it comes, some moments are harder than others. 

 

Did you get a chance to look at some of those links ChessieCat gave you. In one of them Alto said:

 

“ Irregular heartbeats and palpitations are very common withdrawal symptoms. If your symptoms started during or after withdrawals, it is likely a withdrawal symptom and an indication you tapered too fast. 

 

Like other withdrawal symptoms, this goes away over time. Also, walking helps regularize autonomic functions and heart rate. Make sure you get at least half an hour of walking a day, if you can tolerate it. “ 

 

That being said though, if you feel it is something else see your doctor. 

 

Take care, sending hugs🤗

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Been on antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressants and painkillers for chronic pain. 

Have been cold turkeyed and put on and off all sorts of things.  Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward because I had akathisia from withdrawals. I can’t remember what I was put on but when I was released was in the same predicament with severe akathisia n was suicidal again.

Back to the psych ward and I was given a number of different drugs while there. Tapered off one when I got home n have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. It’s been years, tapering slowly but still having severe withdrawals.

I’ve  tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./ March 10th 2019=7.25mg / 17th of April 2019= 7mg / June 5th=6.75mg/ July 14th=6.50mg/ 28th of August=6.25mg/ 10th of Oct= 6.20mg/ 21st October 6mg/ 16th of December 5.80mg/21st of January 5.60mg/

 

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

 

 

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I am struggling today. I did not sleep well last night and it has carried over to today. I am depressed. My heart is feeling better.  I went to the chiropractor and I think that helped. There was initial pain that evening and then it subsided. I am thankful for that.  I am in my head and not present. In the past I have tried to figure out what is depressing me and labeled it and tried to fix it. I am far enough into this to know that all I can do is wait it out. None of my issues are really “depressing.”  My life is generally good. But I don’t feel good. That is hard. Very very hard right now. I am trying to keep myself busy but I am not interested in doing anything. I keep thinking something I do will make me happy but I am disappointed when *most* of the time I don’t feel it.  A small part of me is also scared—not as much as I used to be—but I’d be lying if I said I fully believe I will be completely better ever again. I would dwell on that thought before. Now I just let it come into my thoughts and let it float away. That is a positive. There are a lot of positives. Right now I’m just stuck. 

 

Thinking about the rest of you that are fighting like me and praying that you can find some peace today.  We have to believe that we will be healed just like so many others have been. 

 

 


Started Lamictal and Brintellix in November 2015

May 2016 Discontinued Lamictal 100 to 50 and then stopped completely.

October 20, 2016 discontinued Brintellex 10 to 5 then went from 5 to 0 on November 10, 2016.

 

Currently off all antidepressants

 

Current Supplements:  L-Theanine, Natural Progesterone, L-Methylfolate, Vitamin D, Omega-3's, Probiotic

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