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Aeroman I have another question for you. In your situation, how did those blue skies start to open? What did you notice happening? Did your symptoms gradually lighten over time? I know you said you had the anhedonia for quite some time so how did you get to the place of, your excitement to spend time with your loved ones and your hobbies??? Was this a gradual return to where you said you, "pick up where you lift off in your life???" Thanks, Jamie.

It was very gradual. I started getting comments from my loved ones that I was cracking up jokes more. They relied I was smiling more often. As for me, the #1 clue that I had that was in recovery mode was that I was spending more time reading forums on cars and model airplanes than spending hours on the SSRI forums! It just became automatic. I also was noticing and "experiencing" nice aromas, colors were more vibrant. I felt I was wearing a new set of glasses looking through clearer lens, and not existing in a glass sphere.

 

Happiness for me was coming in in tiny moments of joy...coffee smelled good, wife was looking very beautiful in this new color, a program on TV was very interesting, you name it. I than began reaching out to my old friends and made new ones, telling them I was on a mental vacation and I'm done. I said my number was called while I was in the waiting room. It felt great. I felt alive. Sleep was back to normal. Bedroom activities with my wife went from 0 to Bam!

 

I'm a new person.

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LexAnger

I have been reading this thread everyday since you are back Aeroman giving hopes to all of us! Thank you!!

 

One more question. Except for Cipro which is a huge NO, we're you able to take other meds after your full recovery such as pain killer, cold meds etc. if you ever had a need?

 

Lex

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Aeroman

I have been reading this thread everyday since you are back Aeroman giving hopes to all of us! Thank you!!

 

One more question. Except for Cipro which is a huge NO, we're you able to take other meds after your full recovery such as pain killer, cold meds etc. if you ever had a need?

 

Lex

you're welcome! I haven't had to take pain Meds or Meds all together for awhile so I can't say. After Cipro, I'm very OCD on reading the side effects. If I read anything psychiatric, I stay away! I've taken Adil, Aleve, and Tylenol and its been OK. I haven't taken Norco since Dec 2014, days before I experienced a very bad panic attack which I attributed to Cipro. Could it have been Norco? Who knows...I just experienced a horrible weird panic attack where I couldn't get my own thoughts in due to the racing thoughts.

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Aeroman, thank you so much for your answer. It is helpful, very helpful!!! " it just became automatic." That is refreshing to know because when we aren't feeling all of our old self, I know I just think, " Am I ever going to get myself, my joy back?" Cannot be forced at all!!! Thank you so much!!!

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LexAnger

Thanks again so very much for your kindest help sharing your experience!

 

I'm happy to hear that you were able to take the common meds for pain, cold etc, without problems. This gives me hope that the ssri damaged CNS can eventually stabilize at a reasonable level. We definitely need to be extremely cautious about any meds that may interfare with CNS for rest of our lives.

 

Have a great evening!

Lex

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Bobo32

hi aero,

i read you experiencend AKATHISIAand inner restelness; i experienced the same during my zyprexa Ct it slowly subsided along with agoraphobia and panick attacks but now 2 months off all medications i feel much better although i still experience residual inner restlesness and agitation. I dont know if i should attribute this to the zyprexa still or to the SSRIs i used throughout last year.. Anyway i wanted to ask you aero, how far in withdrawal did you start feeling better with INNER RESTLESNESS? also ANHEDONIA which i experience as well to some extent; how long did it take for you to finally kick it?

Thank you

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brassmonkey

Hi Aeroman-- I noticed a change under your avatar.  Congratulations on becoming a moderator.  It will be an excellent fit. Welcome to the team.

 

Brass

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Aeroman

Thanks again so very much for your kindest help sharing your experience!

 

I'm happy to hear that you were able to take the common meds for pain, cold etc, without problems. This gives me hope that the ssri damaged CNS can eventually stabilize at a reasonable level. We definitely need to be extremely cautious about any meds that may interfare with CNS for rest of our lives.

 

Have a great evening!

Lex

Thanks, you too :)

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Aeroman

hi aero, i read you experiencend AKATHISIAand inner restelness; i experienced the same during my zyprexa Ct it slowly subsided along with agoraphobia and panick attacks but now 2 months off all medications i feel much better although i still experience residual inner restlesness and agitation. I dont know if i should attribute this to the zyprexa still or to the SSRIs i used throughout last year.. Anyway i wanted to ask you aero, how far in withdrawal did you start feeling better with INNER RESTLESNESS? also ANHEDONIA which i experience as well to some extent; how long did it take for you to finally kick it? Thank you

Hi Bobo, I stopped trying to figure out the root cause of my issues because it led me no where.  The restlessness got better after 12 months and the anhedonia was around 3-4 year mark.  It's a rough guess but it was the last symptom to go away.  Hang in there.

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Aeroman

Hi Aeroman-- I noticed a change under your avatar.  Congratulations on becoming a moderator.  It will be an excellent fit. Welcome to the team.

 

Brass

Thanks a bunch!  

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Aeroman

Aeroman, thank you so much for your answer. It is helpful, very helpful!!! " it just became automatic." That is refreshing to know because when we aren't feeling all of our old self, I know I just think, " Am I ever going to get myself, my joy back?" Cannot be forced at all!!! Thank you so much!!!

you're welcome.  I try to describe the best I can.

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hi aero, i read you experiencend AKATHISIAand inner restelness; i experienced the same during my zyprexa Ct it slowly subsided along with agoraphobia and panick attacks but now 2 months off all medications i feel much better although i still experience residual inner restlesness and agitation. I dont know if i should attribute this to the zyprexa still or to the SSRIs i used throughout last year.. Anyway i wanted to ask you aero, how far in withdrawal did you start feeling better with INNER RESTLESNESS? also ANHEDONIA which i experience as well to some extent; how long did it take for you to finally kick it? Thank you

Hi Bobo, I stopped trying to figure out the root cause of my issues because it led me no where. The restlessness got better after 12 months and the anhedonia was around 3-4 year mark. It's a rough guess but it was the last symptom to go away. Hang in there.
Thanks!

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I was on Lexapro 2.5 mg then 5 mg for 6 years. It took me 2 years to wean off. I also had a horrible experience with Cipro! Please, can anyone tell me what experiences they had with Cipro? I was given it for any upper respiratory infection I had very freely, even for a dental cleaning. One day I went into anaphylaxis and nearly died. This was back in 2003. My doctor said that Cipro can make your joints explode. I have trouble with all of my joints now. I had no idea there were psychological effects from taking Cipro.

 

Your help will be appreciated! Please move this post to the right place if needed.

 

Kestrel

Yes, Cipro crosses the blood brain barrier and causes all sorts of neurological issues. Mine was auditory hallucinations, Insomnia, anxiety, depression, and fear. All went away.

 

Thank you for this. I was "floxied" on 3/15/2016 after taking just 2 doses. I will never forget that day. My life has been a roller coaster of anxiety and depression ever since. I had been on lexapro for ten years previous to that, but had successfully tapered, I thought, over the course of a couple years. I think Cipro may have induced W/D from my previous taper. I felt fine, completely normal for 6 to 9 months. Anyway, I think it caused major anxiety and w/d combined. Without understanding I kept trying to beat the anxiety with ever increasing doses of Lexapro. I was up to 40mg, plus 20mg of buspar. I won't bore you anymore with that it's in my signature. But you've given me hope. My wife and 2 young daughters thank you as well.

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Aeroman

 

 

I was on Lexapro 2.5 mg then 5 mg for 6 years. It took me 2 years to wean off. I also had a horrible experience with Cipro! Please, can anyone tell me what experiences they had with Cipro? I was given it for any upper respiratory infection I had very freely, even for a dental cleaning. One day I went into anaphylaxis and nearly died. This was back in 2003. My doctor said that Cipro can make your joints explode. I have trouble with all of my joints now. I had no idea there were psychological effects from taking Cipro.

 

Your help will be appreciated! Please move this post to the right place if needed.

 

Kestrel

Yes, Cipro crosses the blood brain barrier and causes all sorts of neurological issues. Mine was auditory hallucinations, Insomnia, anxiety, depression, and fear. All went away.

Thank you for this. I was "floxied" on 3/15/2016 after taking just 2 doses. I will never forget that day. My life has been a roller coaster of anxiety and depression ever since. I had been on lexapro for ten years previous to that, but had successfully tapered, I thought, over the course of a couple years. I think Cipro may have induced W/D from my previous taper. I felt fine, completely normal for 6 to 9 months. Anyway, I think it caused major anxiety and w/d combined. Without understanding I kept trying to beat the anxiety with ever increasing doses of Lexapro. I was up to 40mg, plus 20mg of buspar. I won't bore you anymore with that it's in my signature. But you've given me hope. My wife and 2 young daughters thank you as well.
so you were Floxed too huh?! And you experienced the weird anxiety and depression months after? Wow, sounds like me at the time. I knew it was Cipro because I was completely fine before taking it. I took Cipro for an infection. After Cipro, I immediately knew something wasn't right. The anxiety and depression weren't the "normal" ones I had experienced after recovery. My sleep was bad and I was disconnected again from loved ones. I told myself, "oh crap, not this again!!?" I reported it to the FDA and I believe they have updated the labeling for FQs to indicate psychiatric issues. But yeah, the racing thoughts, mind, and not being able to get any thoughts in made me think I had lost my mind and was going crazy. I thought I was hearing or seeing things. Wasn't fair!

 

 

All good now.

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rspwed

Yep. Within hours. It was a very strange feeling. I don't think I would have taken the second dose, except I took the first dose just before I went to bed. I felt weird when I woke up, but hey WTH? I gotta get to work. Took the second dose and by the time I got to work, I had to turn around and go home. All for a UTI that it turns out, I didn't even have. Damn.

Anxiety, depression, insomnia and now I get to do a years long taper.

They have updated all the side effect warnings to include psychiatric issues.

Damn right, not fair.

Thanks again.

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Aeroman

Yep. Within hours. It was a very strange feeling. I don't think I would have taken the second dose, except I took the first dose just before I went to bed. I felt weird when I woke up, but hey WTH? I gotta get to work. Took the second dose and by the time I got to work, I had to turn around and go home. All for a UTI that it turns out, I didn't even have. Damn.

Anxiety, depression, insomnia and now I get to do a years long taper.

They have updated all the side effect warnings to include psychiatric issues.

Damn right, not fair.

Thanks again.

holy moly, me too! UTI I did not have! You'll get better

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So I just spent the last 2 hours going through your story. Holy moly is right! I had no idea there were so many floxed people here. I feel so bad for luv2knit and her daughter. The others as well, but especially them. I call people like that "perspective people". As soon as I think I have it bad, they give me perspective. Your post gave me more hope since I'm 13 months out since I was floxed, so I hope I'm beyond the half way point. I feel so many similarities to your story. I'm also a big fan of Dr. Weekes. I listen to her hope and help audio book almost every morning. "Loosen and Accept", so comforting when you're in the soup.

 

Can you tell me what the Facebook page is for the Ciprofloxacin group?

 

Thank you for posting it all. I'm happy for you that you are feeling so much better.

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That's it. Burn time, seriously. I tried all sorts of herbs, supplements, etc to help me sleep, lift mood but nothing worked for me. It may for you but it didn't with me.

 

NO ONE will fully understand all this. It's impossible - they are not you and do not live in your brain/state of mind.

 

I remember that mornings were particularly tough. By the evening, I was improved and even laughing. I didn't want the night to end. I dreamed going to bed bc I knew I wasn't going to sleep and that the morning was a reset of my mind. It all recovered. In fact, I am writing this in my garage as I work on my antique car!

 

Hi Aeroman,

 

How many months did it take before you could get at least 6 hours of sleep every night?

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Aeroman

Hi Aeroman,

 

How many months did it take before you could get at least 6 hours of sleep every night?

10-12 months

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10-12 months

 

Thanks so much

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Hibari

Aeroman-Thank you so much for sharing your story.   I am one month off my first medication and it has been a rocky ride.   My mental state is okay but the physical symptoms have been intense, nausea, physical tension, headache, sweating during the night, and wanting to cry.  I've had all these reactions during my 2.3 years of wd and yet it's scarier this time because I'm not giving my body any more of the medication.   

 

It is so good to read that you have yourself back and that it can be done.  I guess there is no easy way to go around withdrawal and it's good to know that you have.

 

Hibari

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Aeroman

 

10-12 months

Thanks so much

 

You're welcome.  Hang in there, it will improve!  if I did it, so can you

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Aeroman-Thank you so much for sharing your story.   I am one month off my first medication and it has been a rocky ride.   My mental state is okay but the physical symptoms have been intense, nausea, physical tension, headache, sweating during the night, and wanting to cry.  I've had all these reactions during my 2.3 years of wd and yet it's scarier this time because I'm not giving my body any more of the medication.   

 

It is so good to read that you have yourself back and that it can be done.  I guess there is no easy way to go around withdrawal and it's good to know that you have.

 

Hibari

You are going through, what I nicknamed, Phase I.  Phase I was mainly the acute physical symptoms.  Phase II came about 3-5 months post SSRI and that was more on the mental stuff.  No, no easier way in my experience...you got to see it through.  You'll get better

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So I just spent the last 2 hours going through your story. Holy moly is right! I had no idea there were so many floxed people here. I feel so bad for luv2knit and her daughter. The others as well, but especially them. I call people like that "perspective people". As soon as I think I have it bad, they give me perspective. Your post gave me more hope since I'm 13 months out since I was floxed, so I hope I'm beyond the half way point. I feel so many similarities to your story. I'm also a big fan of Dr. Weekes. I listen to her hope and help audio book almost every morning. "Loosen and Accept", so comforting when you're in the soup.

 

Can you tell me what the Facebook page is for the Ciprofloxacin group?

 

Thank you for posting it all. I'm happy for you that you are feeling so much better.

Thanks.  I have since left the group on Facebook but there are only two.  

 

fluoroquinolone toxicity group

 

and

 

fluoroquinolone twilight zone

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ShakeyJerr

Hi Aeroman,

 

Reading your success story has given me hope, and also a bit of despair. It's the part about it taking years that scares me. I was never very good with pain, p hysucal or emotional, and w/d is the worst of both. And I have a wife who is suffering because she has had to bear so much of the burden now of carrying us financially (and sadly, her job is hanging on by a thread). And we have a ten year old daughter who is having to watch her father suffer.

 

I know it will take time and God, as you said. I pray without ceasing, but I myst admit to my faith and trust being shaken. I fear that

I will not see healing this sideof Heaven.

 

I ruined my family's lives while I was on the meds (they helped give reign to the worst parts of me, like anger and a nasty tongue). While I was on the meds, I prayed for my marriage to get better, and my wife says being off of the meds has saved our marriage. But now I am in the throes if w/d, and it is ruining my family in a different way. It's as if the answer to the first prayer has caused a new priblem! My theology is rocked. But I cling to God, and pray for guidance and relief.

 

Anyway, thank you again for sharing your story, and for being here to help.

 

SJ

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Aeroman

Hi Aeroman,

 

Reading your success story has given me hope, and also a bit of despair. It's the part about it taking years that scares me. I was never very good with pain, p hysucal or emotional, and w/d is the worst of both. And I have a wife who is suffering because she has had to bear so much of the burden now of carrying us financially (and sadly, her job is hanging on by a thread). And we have a ten year old daughter who is having to watch her father suffer.

 

I know it will take time and God, as you said. I pray without ceasing, but I myst admit to my faith and trust being shaken. I fear that

I will not see healing this sideof Heaven.

 

I ruined my family's lives while I was on the meds (they helped give reign to the worst parts of me, like anger and a nasty tongue). While I was on the meds, I prayed for my marriage to get better, and my wife says being off of the meds has saved our marriage. But now I am in the throes if w/d, and it is ruining my family in a different way. It's as if the answer to the first prayer has caused a new priblem! My theology is rocked. But I cling to God, and pray for guidance and relief.

 

Anyway, thank you again for sharing your story, and for being here to help.

 

SJ

hi Shakey, don't despair about the timeline. When I say years, 80% of my WD time was do able. Meaning, I didn't need to go to get back on Meds, etc. The first year was the real kicker. It was a shock to my brain. It affected my marriage and luckily we pulled through. Let the mind tell you that you won't recover or that it will get worse. The mind is a beautiful thing. It will work for you or against you. I made a choice. I chose to have it work for me. It through me the weirdest **** and I transformed that to a learning experience and over time made me grow. Made me stronger. I was on the floor with anxiety. I cried. I wanted out. I wanted to take myself out. It was that thought of suicide that was a blessing in disguise! Why, you may ask? Because it was PROOF that the situation I was in wasn't ME! I had a root cause: Lexapro Withdrawal. I was scared I was going crazy. But I learned that the people that are really crazy don't know they are! It's their norm. Whether it be God or whatever, you will recover. You will improve. And that, my friend, will happen whether you believe it or not.

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hi Shakey, don't despair about the timeline. When I say years, 80% of my WD time was do able. Meaning, I didn't need to go to get back on Meds, etc. The first year was the real kicker. It was a shock to my brain. It affected my marriage and luckily we pulled through. Let the mind tell you that you won't recover or that it will get worse. The mind is a beautiful thing. It will work for you or against you. I made a choice. I chose to have it work for me. It through me the weirdest **** and I transformed that to a learning experience and over time made me grow. Made me stronger. I was on the floor with anxiety. I cried. I wanted out. I wanted to take myself out. It was that thought of suicide that was a blessing in disguise! Why, you may ask? Because it was PROOF that the situation I was in wasn't ME! I had a root cause: Lexapro Withdrawal. I was scared I was going crazy. But I learned that the people that are really crazy don't know they are! It's their norm. Whether it be God or whatever, you will recover. You will improve. And that, my friend, will happen whether you believe it or not.

 

 

You are really good at this encouragement thing! When I was on the drugs, suicidal thoughts were a frequent companion. I wanted to die. That was the meds talking. Now when I have the thought that I should end this, that my family will be better off, it is fleeting, a reaction to the pain and yes, proof that my emotions are not wholly my own yet.

 

I need to grown some strength - to let God grow my strength, to be my strength. I was never good with any pain - physical or emotional - at even the smallest level. Now I'm experiencing it on levels I wouldn't wish on anyone! And even then, I know there are people out there dealing with much worse pain and circumstances than I am. That motivates me to be compassionate - and to hold on through this wild ride! Though in the morning, when the cortisol-terror starts, I might feel differently. I used to love mornings! Now I dread them. But I have hope that the next morning will be the one where I feel less anxiety, less pain.

 

SJ

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hi Shakey, don't despair about the timeline. When I say years, 80% of my WD time was do able. Meaning, I didn't need to go to get back on Meds, etc. The first year was the real kicker. It was a shock to my brain. It affected my marriage and luckily we pulled through. Let the mind tell you that you won't recover or that it will get worse. The mind is a beautiful thing. It will work for you or against you. I made a choice. I chose to have it work for me. It through me the weirdest **** and I transformed that to a learning experience and over time made me grow. Made me stronger. I was on the floor with anxiety. I cried. I wanted out. I wanted to take myself out. It was that thought of suicide that was a blessing in disguise! Why, you may ask? Because it was PROOF that the situation I was in wasn't ME! I had a root cause: Lexapro Withdrawal. I was scared I was going crazy. But I learned that the people that are really crazy don't know they are! It's their norm. Whether it be God or whatever, you will recover. You will improve. And that, my friend, will happen whether you believe it or not.

 

 

You are really good at this encouragement thing! When I was on the drugs, suicidal thoughts were a frequent companion. I wanted to die. That was the meds talking. Now when I have the thought that I should end this, that my family will be better off, it is fleeting, a reaction to the pain and yes, proof that my emotions are not wholly my own yet.

 

I need to grown some strength - to let God grow my strength, to be my strength. I was never good with any pain - physical or emotional - at even the smallest level. Now I'm experiencing it on levels I wouldn't wish on anyone! And even then, I know there are people out there dealing with much worse pain and circumstances than I am. That motivates me to be compassionate - and to hold on through this wild ride! Though in the morning, when the cortisol-terror starts, I might feel differently. I used to love mornings! Now I dread them. But I have hope that the next morning will be the one where I feel less anxiety, less pain.

 

SJ

 

The increase in strength will come during your journey!

 

The mornings....the mornings....awwww, man, wish I could write a book on those dreaded mornings.  They were the worst!  The evenings would be great only to have the mind "reset" in the mornings.  Now, I cherish them and spring out of bed looking forward on working on x, y, and z.

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I used to love mornings! I look forward to the day that I love them more than ever!

 

SJ

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Aeroman-

I know your probably ready to move on but I'm very thankful for you coming here & giving hope to people like me. This is the most terrifying thing I've ever experienced. I'll be honest I'm scared very scared about how in the world am I supposed to endure this debilitating anxiety and depression for years and not giving up. I'm only 5 months in & still have 1 more med to go. I don't know if once I get stable that I have enough left in me to taper the Wellbutrin. I don't think I'll try cold turkey again though.

 

Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your words of hope and wisdom. God Bless!

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Aeroman-

I know your probably ready to move on but I'm very thankful for you coming here & giving hope to people like me. This is the most terrifying thing I've ever experienced. I'll be honest I'm scared very scared about how in the world am I supposed to endure this debilitating anxiety and depression for years and not giving up. I'm only 5 months in & still have 1 more med to go. I don't know if once I get stable that I have enough left in me to taper the Wellbutrin. I don't think I'll try cold turkey again though.

 

Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your words of hope and wisdom. God Bless!

Hi Jennifer. First of all (and this goes to all of you reading this): do not set yourself a time line. We're all different. I know the patterns and trends are the same but what I went through may very well be short lived or non existent to you. How did I get through it? I just did. There is a lot of good in us to overcome the negative and twisted things your mind can bring. It's temporary and knowing that, is a huge help. Also, keep your mind busy with meaningful activities while you "burn up" time. I'm sure you have all sorts of questions so feel free to ask away.

 

I understand your fear. It's real. It's very profound and it probably consumes your thinking the majority of your time. But over time, it becomes less...and less...and less. You'll started reading more non-wd sites/posts and more of your hobby/interests. You'll see :)

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Thank you Aeroman. Every Time you tell us the fear, anxiety, and depression will heal, that alone lifts my heart. It seems like those exaggerated emotions are so slow to heal. Aeroman, did those raw emotions just get more less intense and lighter as time pushed forward? I mean, for me anyway, they sure aren't going away overnight. It seems like they are just getting gradually lighter but not gone, not back to me. As a matter of fact, I can relate to what Jennifer just said, the whole ordeal is taxing and hard!!! Today, I just had to cry and cry good, I so long to feel the joy and not fear and anxiety. Just so long to have me back!!! Me before the drug that is! For Jennifer, Wellbutrin is the drug I am tapering.

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Thank you Aeroman. Every Time you tell us the fear, anxiety, and depression will heal, that alone lifts my heart. It seems like those exaggerated emotions are so slow to heal. Aeroman, did those raw emotions just get more less intense and lighter as time pushed forward? I mean, for me anyway, they sure aren't going away overnight. It seems like they are just getting gradually lighter but not gone, not back to me. As a matter of fact, I can relate to what Jennifer just said, the whole ordeal is taxing and hard!!! Today, I just had to cry and cry good, I so long to feel the joy and not fear and anxiety. Just so long to have me back!!! Me before the drug that is! For Jennifer, Wellbutrin is the drug I am tapering.

hello. Yes, they gradually lifted. And it wasn't a linear thing...good and bad but the trend was going up, SLOWLY

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Thank you Aeroman for taking the time to share your experiences and encourage us along the way. Thank you for coming back????

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Lorin

Hello All, it's been a long time since I have logged in here and posted.  My story is located here:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7761-%E2%98%BC-aeroman-hello-from-aeroman/?st=0

 

I have been good, fully recovered from Lexapro and Cipro use.  I don't think about withdrawal anymore.  The answer was TIME and GOD in both cases.  For those that are new to withdrawal, don't fret, you will be OK.  I know the beginning months are scary but it won't last forever.  Feel free to ask me questions as I am sure you will have many..especially doubts within yourself.

 

Aeroman

hi dear

1.did you had lack of sleep during wd?

i men hole nights without a sleep?

if yes,did you found for it sםlution?

2.what you men by say"No other experience has strengthened my mind like being in SSRI w/d"?

3.for what you took drugs?

thank you

 

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Hello All, it's been a long time since I have logged in here and posted.  My story is located here:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7761-%E2%98%BC-aeroman-hello-from-aeroman/?st=0

 

I have been good, fully recovered from Lexapro and Cipro use.  I don't think about withdrawal anymore.  The answer was TIME and GOD in both cases.  For those that are new to withdrawal, don't fret, you will be OK.  I know the beginning months are scary but it won't last forever.  Feel free to ask me questions as I am sure you will have many..especially doubts within yourself.

 

Aeroman

how did you use "weeks" method?by kearning book?or by Be patient ?

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