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ShakeyJerr
On 5/16/2017 at 10:04 AM, Aeroman said:

If you get her book, she explains it in there.

 

I am assuming you mean Claire Weeke's book Hope and Help For Your Nerves? Or another one?

 

SJ

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Aeroman
23 minutes ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

I am assuming you mean Claire Weeke's book Hope and Help For Your Nerves? Or another one?

 

SJ

Yes, Dr. Weekes' book

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Bobo32
On 29/06/2017 at 8:47 PM, Aeroman said:

4 months, in my opinion, is still pretty early in the WD. I don't think anything you take is ever permanent. 

Hi Aero,

Thanks for sticking around for all of us. I just have one question.. Dis you have brain fog and cognitive issues while in withdrawal? how do you feel today memory and cognition wise?

Do those heal as well?

thank you

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Aeroman
On 7/13/2017 at 3:10 AM, Bobo32 said:

Hi Aero,

Thanks for sticking around for all of us. I just have one question.. Dis you have brain fog and cognitive issues while in withdrawal? how do you feel today memory and cognition wise?

Do those heal as well?

thank you

yes to both, brain fog and cognitive issues during wd.  Memory is pretty good but it isn't as great as before.  Yes, I would say they are pretty much healed.

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Bobo32
4 hours ago, Aeroman said:

yes to both, brain fog and cognitive issues during wd.  Memory is pretty good but it isn't as great as before.  Yes, I would say they are pretty much healed.

So if memory is not as good as before that means you are not 100 percent healed? What do you call healed exactly ?

thank you in advance 

 

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Aeroman
2 minutes ago, Bobo32 said:

So if memory is not as good as before that means you are not 100 percent healed? What do you call healed exactly ?

thank you in advance 

 

I am 100% healed.

On 7/6/2017 at 10:51 AM, ShakeyJerr said:

 

I am assuming you mean Claire Weeke's book Hope and Help For Your Nerves? Or another one?

 

SJ

Yes, Dr. Weekes' book

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DaisyBell

Did you have DR/DP?

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Aeroman
4 minutes ago, DaisyBell said:

Did you have DR/DP?

Oh yes! 

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I took Lexapro 10 mg for 4 years (similar to you). 9 week taper with last day in Sept 2014.  So three years out for me... yet still I have not conquered DP/DR. Was it one of the last symptoms to go for you?  I also have light sensitivity - did you have and get over that too?

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2 minutes ago, DaisyBell said:

I took Lexapro 10 mg for 4 years (similar to you). 9 week taper with last day in Sept 2014.  So three years out for me... yet still I have not conquered DP/DR. Was it one of the last symptoms to go for you?  I also have light sensitivity - did you have and get over that too?

Hi Daisy, yes, it was one of my last few symptoms as well as Anhedonia. Yep, sound and light sensativity as well. It resolved. 

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Just now, Aeroman said:

Hi Daisy, yes, it was one of my last few symptoms as well as Anhedonia. Yep, sound and light sensativity as well. It resolved. 

This gives me hope. Can't wait to be able to do things again.... work,  play sports in a fluorescent sports hall or be in crowded busy areas without losing it!

 

Was it around the four year mark? Also when things resolve do you think it is wise to not over do things. Like only do part time work, non -stressful... in other words is there a residual stress sensitivity (or a reduced resilience) following such a long term withdrawal even when the worst (obvious) symptoms resolve?

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2 minutes ago, DaisyBell said:

This gives me hope. Can't wait to be able to do things again.... work,  play sports in a fluorescent sports hall or be in crowded busy areas without losing it!

 

Was it around the four year mark? Also when things resolve do you think it is wise to not over do things. Like only do part time work, non -stressful... in other words is there a residual stress sensitivity (or a reduced resilience) following such a long term withdrawal even when the worst (obvious) symptoms resolve?

Trust me when I say this...you will get better.  I know, easier said than done but keep hanging in there.  I tell folks that I felt like I was in a "waiting room" waiting for my number to be called.

 

yes, it was between 3 to 4 year mark.  It didn't matter if I over did things or not, recovery happens.  It was a slow gradual recovery state.  The brain knows and will stabilize when the time comes.  Do you feel better now than say, 2 years ago?

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DaisyBell
4 minutes ago, Aeroman said:

Trust me when I say this...you will get better.  I know, easier said than done but keep hanging in there.  I tell folks that I felt like I was in a "waiting room" waiting for my number to be called.

 

yes, it was between 3 to 4 year mark.  It didn't matter if I over did things or not, recovery happens.  It was a slow gradual recovery state.  The brain knows and will stabilize when the time comes.  Do you feel better now than say, 2 years ago?

Yes I do feel better and my close family believe I am a million times better.  It's just three year in 'the waiting room' really teaches patience and test your belief. I guess I'm trying to put a plan in place too. I've always been a very determined and ambitious individual, but I want to be kind  to myself this time. Thanks for your words of wisdom Aeroman

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1 minute ago, DaisyBell said:

Yes I do feel better and my close family believe I am a million times better.  It's just three year in 'the waiting room' really teaches patience and test your belief. I guess I'm trying to put a plan in place too. I've always been a very determined and ambitious individual, but I want to be kind  to myself this time. Thanks for your words of wisdom Aeroman

Great to hear you are feeling better. I had a feeling you were. Oh yes...this whole ordeal taught me patience!  Feel free to keep asking away...I had a lot of reassurance from friends who had recovered before me and it helped me. 

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dini84

Aeroman thank you for hanging around and helping all of us. I come back to re-read your success story and it has been a huge help to me on my journey!

 

I just have a question... Did you ever feel 'pointless' or think 'what is the point of life'? Did you ever question if you had always felt this way but just didn't know it? I have this underlying fear now that I never had before that makes me question every aspect of myself, especially my mental health.

 

It makes me wonder if I was always like this or if things about my personality were really bad and I just never knew it. But at the same time I just 'know' in my gut this is wrong and I would not be questioning or second guessing myself if I was not in withdrawal recovery, it gets to be so confusing. So I am just wondering if you experienced anything like that throughout your recovery and if so, did it resolve for you?

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Aeroman
On 10/3/2017 at 8:37 AM, dini84 said:

Aeroman thank you for hanging around and helping all of us. I come back to re-read your success story and it has been a huge help to me on my journey!

 

I just have a question... Did you ever feel 'pointless' or think 'what is the point of life'? Did you ever question if you had always felt this way but just didn't know it? I have this underlying fear now that I never had before that makes me question every aspect of myself, especially my mental health.

 

It makes me wonder if I was always like this or if things about my personality were really bad and I just never knew it. But at the same time I just 'know' in my gut this is wrong and I would not be questioning or second guessing myself if I was not in withdrawal recovery, it gets to be so confusing. So I am just wondering if you experienced anything like that throughout your recovery and if so, did it resolve for you?

Did you ever feel 'pointless' or think 'what is the point of life'? Did you ever question if you had always felt this way but just didn't know it?  = YEP!!!!   And once I get that thought, it just plays, rewinds, plays rewinds, and doesn't want to stop.  It was exhausting!  But like everything else, it stopped and I felt better.

 

No, I doubt you were ever like this.  The fact that you even think that proves to me that you have always been ok, "normal", whatever your normal is.  And yes, I experienced those thoughts as well, big time.  And yes, they resolved as well. I just accept the thought and move on.

 

Anything that plays and rewinds in my head all went away....and the same will happen for you.  Be well and hang in there.

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dini84

Thanks Aeroman! I do notice as time goes on that those thoughts are almost non existent, or at least very light. I've never had this before withdrawal, I do know that much, but the thoughts haunt me during the waves and it's so hard to escape it, because it feels so real.

 

I've been using Claire Weekes' techniques and "floating" to get through the worst of all of this. I do believe it's helping a lot, so thank you so much for the book recommendation as well!!!  

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18 hours ago, dini84 said:

Thanks Aeroman! I do notice as time goes on that those thoughts are almost non existent, or at least very light. I've never had this before withdrawal, I do know that much, but the thoughts haunt me during the waves and it's so hard to escape it, because it feels so real.

 

I've been using Claire Weekes' techniques and "floating" to get through the worst of all of this. I do believe it's helping a lot, so thank you so much for the book recommendation as well!!!  

Yep, I know EXACTLY what you mean. Time is a great healer. And yes, it does feel so real. Isn't Dr Claire Weekes' book awesome?! And it really works! Just takes practice and patience. Feel free to message me if it gets too tough, I've been there! 

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TryingToHoldOn

Aeroman, I'm 7 months off and feel like I'm losing it.  I honestly feel like a hopeless case.  I read over your success story and you seemed to take everything in stride and I can barely take a shower.  Please humor me as I'm desperately trying to use my rational brain to separate who I truly am from WD.  Did you ever experience the following:

-mood swings: rage, crying, irritability, depression, anxiety, apathy

-severe social anxiety (I can barely look people in the eye when interacting with them

-insomnia

-severe cognitive impairment (difficulty w/simple tasks) and problems with executive functioning

-an underlying panic that is 24/7

 

I used to have windows, but that has stopped since the beginning of August.  

At what point did the symptoms lessen for you or become at least 'bearable'?  

 

Thanks so much for your insight.

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jkun41
On 04/10/2017 at 2:18 PM, Aeroman said:

Did you ever feel 'pointless' or think 'what is the point of life'? Did you ever question if you had always felt this way but just didn't know it?  = YEP!!!!   And once I get that thought, it just plays, rewinds, plays rewinds, and doesn't want to stop.  It was exhausting!  But like everything else, it stopped and I felt better.

 

No, I doubt you were ever like this.  The fact that you even think that proves to me that you have always been ok, "normal", whatever your normal is.  And yes, I experienced those thoughts as well, big time.  And yes, they resolved as well. I just accept the thought and move on.

 

Anything that plays and rewinds in my head all went away....and the same will happen for you.  Be well and hang in there.

 

To jump on the wagon here, 

 

Did you ever get these thoughts along with existential questions like why do I love, why am I kind, do I love my family, etc.? 

 

This whole ordeal has made my OCD 100x worse and the intrusive thoughts are hard. 

 

Great to see you're recovered. God bless. 

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Aeroman
7 hours ago, jkun41 said:

 

To jump on the wagon here, 

 

Did you ever get these thoughts along with existential questions like why do I love, why am I kind, do I love my family, etc.? 

 

This whole ordeal has made my OCD 100x worse and the intrusive thoughts are hard. 

 

Great to see you're recovered. God bless. 

Yes, I remember having those. I remember questioning my feelings towards stuff and people. The intrusive thoughts just kept playing and rewinding in my head. Hope you feel better soon

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Aeroman
8 hours ago, TryingToHoldOn said:

Aeroman, I'm 7 months off and feel like I'm losing it.  I honestly feel like a hopeless case.  I read over your success story and you seemed to take everything in stride and I can barely take a shower.  Please humor me as I'm desperately trying to use my rational brain to separate who I truly am from WD.  Did you ever experience the following:

-mood swings: rage, crying, irritability, depression, anxiety, apathy

-severe social anxiety (I can barely look people in the eye when interacting with them

-insomnia

-severe cognitive impairment (difficulty w/simple tasks) and problems with executive functioning

-an underlying panic that is 24/7

 

I used to have windows, but that has stopped since the beginning of August.  

At what point did the symptoms lessen for you or become at least 'bearable'?  

 

Thanks so much for your insight.

At 7 months, I was still in the midst of withdrawal. Everything you listed I went through and some stuck around longer than others. But at the end of it all, I pretty much recovered from everything. I just became more aware of my thoughts and feelings after withdrawal. Hang in there

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scottly9999
On 05/10/2017 at 5:18 AM, Aeroman said:

Did you ever feel 'pointless' or think 'what is the point of life'? Did you ever question if you had always felt this way but just didn't know it?  = YEP!!!!   And once I get that thought, it just plays, rewinds, plays rewinds, and doesn't want to stop.  It was exhausting!  But like everything else, it stopped and I felt better.

 

No, I doubt you were ever like this.  The fact that you even think that proves to me that you have always been ok, "normal", whatever your normal is.  And yes, I experienced those thoughts as well, big time.  And yes, they resolved as well. I just accept the thought and move on.

 

Anything that plays and rewinds in my head all went away....and the same will happen for you.  Be well and hang in there.

This post and reply really resonated wi th me and where i am currently at.

Im 5 and a bit months fully off lexapro.

Had the kdd window here and there, but plagued with cicious depressive and stress inducing thoughts that just strike so deep into my core its unreal.

I know i was never that way before.

But it tries to trick you.

 

You post was helpful aeroman.

 

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eric

Just wanted to chime in and say that for me, the crippling depression and intrusive thoughts started around month 3 or 4 for me (after last dose) and lasted almost 6 months... I didn't realize what was happening to me at the time. Take comfort in knowing that it's just the withdrawal, and that it will pass. You may be a shell of a person for those months, but eventually you'll hit a window.

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scottly9999
3 hours ago, eric said:

Just wanted to chime in and say that for me, the crippling depression and intrusive thoughts started around month 3 or 4 for me (after last dose) and lasted almost 6 months... I didn't realize what was happening to me at the time. Take comfort in knowing that it's just the withdrawal, and that it will pass. You may be a shell of a person for those months, but eventually you'll hit a window.

Thanks for that eric.

Even though we read the success stores we need constant reassurance that we will get there.

You feel so browkn during this time. The thoughts and angipuish is relentless.

That stable and solid feeling i had many years ago seems so far away.

 

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Meeto

Did you suffer from confusion and disorientation?

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Aeroman
21 minutes ago, Meeto said:

Did you suffer from confusion and disorientation?

Yes, it went away. 

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robcbar1

Aeroman, you are my hero.  I'm going through major WD after 20 yrs. of SSRIs, most recently 13 yrs. of Lexapro.  I pray that someday I can write a success story like yours. 

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Aeroman
2 hours ago, robcbar1 said:

Aeroman, you are my hero.  I'm going through major WD after 20 yrs. of SSRIs, most recently 13 yrs. of Lexapro.  I pray that someday I can write a success story like yours. 

Hi Rob!

 

Yes, you will get there.  It takes time, that't the tough part.

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Bobo32

hi Aero,

It's been 8 months now that I quit lexapro I still have no libido no interest in sex. I dont get morning erection evryday and when I have them they are not what they used to be and with soft glans.

I'm really sad I dont know what will help.

 

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rupa

Dear Aeroman ,have you ever experienced dreams?while attempting to sleep(hypnagogic hallosinations)or before waking up(hypnopompic hallosinations).How are you coping up with the heavy headed ness while occurring these dreams.Any remedy you found?

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dini84
On 10/24/2017 at 12:37 AM, rupa said:

Dear Aeroman ,have you ever experienced dreams?while attempting to sleep(hypnagogic hallosinations)or before waking up(hypnopompic hallosinations).How are you coping up with the heavy headed ness while occurring these dreams.Any remedy you found?

In the most severe midst of my own withdrawal recovery from Sertraline (aka Zoloft) I had exactly what you described for a number of months (on the nights where I did sleep a bit). It was very frightening and I questioned my sanity immensely. At the time I was experiencing these things I was not aware that it was from the drug. Try to float with it and remind yourself it is temporary! Listen to Claire Weekes' podcasts online, those helped me to relax enough to accept what was happening at the time. Try to talk kindly to yourself and remember it is temporary! My personal mantras for the worst days are these: "My current situation is not my permanent situation. This too shall pass." And "When thoughts are coming at me thick and fast, they are surely to be withdrawal, unrealistic but temporary, they are NOT the truth." I've prayed a lot as well. I'm not 100% yet but I'm roughly 70% and no longer experience the sleep issues with hypnagia and also somnanbulism etc. I had numerous lucid nightmares to boot. It all went away the more I've stabilised. Best wishes and Aeroman is correct, TIME is really the only remedy for this. I know that's very hard, but it is true. I doubted it but the longer I've been recovering the closer to the real "me" I feel and realize the survivors are right. Trust in time!  I've been into this nearly 18 months now. The first year was awful. These past months have been challenging but I've turned corners just as these survivors have said. Something that helped me to plow forward in this was the fact that I came to realize that in withdrawal we can only think in the present tense. So we see the future in the present tense. But the truth is that the 12th month will not be as bad as the 1st month, the 18th month will not be as bad as the 8th month etc. It keeps getting better. It doesn't feel that way now, but it will, in fact I can't tell you how many times I felt like I was walking up the same flight of stairs only to reach the same level again and again, up and down. It was not until very recently I've felt myself rising up. Does that make sense? The present tense is what scared me the most and it was very difficult to trust in the healing process and leave the problems to time to heal. 

 

Oh, Bobo, the libido issues!!! As healing has gone on, it's gotten much better! In the beginning, I'd be drained of all sexual stimulation or arousal. I'd feel like I did not want to be touched. Then, around month 14 or so, I was a roaring aggressive cougar with claws and an inability to feel satisfied, it was like being a teen again, where you can go all night or at least you have the desire to. Then I'd revert back to the zero libido and that too would go up and down like the rest of the symptoms but has recently become much steadier. Bobo, my husband went through withdrawal 3 times... He struggled with impotence as well. He healed 150% every time! I understand it is frustrating, but it heals! It will heal! You just need more time. So burn time, this withdrawal has lead me to explore and discover new talents and hobbies as I've been forced to learn and accept patience (not my strong suit by the way), and I've taken up poetry and painting. My interests are not back just yet, at least not noticeably, but I decided hell I'm going to do them anyway! But the more time you burn, you will see as you look back later how fast it went by. In the extreme months of my withdrawal, every second felt like a minute, every minute an hour, every hour a day, every day a month, every month an eternity! But now, looking back, I have 15 going on 16 months under my belt, and I'm much better than at even month 12. So keep going, take it one day, one step, one moment at a time! We are healing!

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bruno2016

i remember you from PP. You helped me get through some relationship stuff while in severe WD. Wow time flies. I am now 6 years off. Hope you are well

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Bobo32
On 25/10/2017 at 7:51 PM, dini84 said:

 

 

Oh, Bobo, the libido issues!!! As healing has gone on, it's gotten much better! In the beginning, I'd be drained of all sexual stimulation or arousal. I'd feel like I did not want to be touched. Then, around month 14 or so, I was a roaring aggressive cougar with claws and an inability to feel satisfied, it was like being a teen again, where you can go all night or at least you have the desire to. Then I'd revert back to the zero libido and that too would go up and down like the rest of the symptoms but has recently become much steadier. Bobo, my husband went through withdrawal 3 times... He struggled with impotence as well. He healed 150% every time! I understand it is frustrating, but it heals! It will heal! You just need more time. So burn time, this withdrawal has lead me to explore and discover new talents and hobbies as I've been forced to learn and accept patience (not my strong suit by the way), and I've taken up poetry and painting. My interests are not back just yet, at least not noticeably, but I decided hell I'm going to do them anyway! But the more time you burn, you will see as you look back later how fast it went by. In the extreme months of my withdrawal, every second felt like a minute, every minute an hour, every hour a day, every day a month, every month an eternity! But now, looking back, I have 15 going on 16 months under my belt, and I'm much better than at even month 12. So keep going, take it one day, one step, one moment at a time! We are healing!

 

Hey Dini, how long did it take your husband to heal sexually? and did he ever have soft glans? 

thank you

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dini84
6 hours ago, rupa said:

Thank you dear dini84.

 

Any time Rupa! Our recovery is coming. Hold on and take this all moment by moment and give yourself reminders of this fact: We all heal in time and the process is slow but temporary! 

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