Administrator Altostrata Posted December 22, 2020 Administrator Share Posted December 22, 2020 I have no idea if the mirtazapine can help or if amitriptyline can help. This is why we tell people who are seeing improvement not to try to push it along with other drugs. This is what happens after you take mirtazapine at 8 a.m.? Do these symptoms get worse? At what time of day? 4 hours ago, malu said: Diminished hearing. Blurred eyesight. Cognitive impairment. Joint rigidity. My joints, fingers, elbow, knees, shoulders, and neck are more rigid. It is going to take more than a week for the dosage reduction to take effect. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
malu Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Altostrata said: I have no idea if the mirtazapine can help or if amitriptyline can help. This is why we tell people who are seeing improvement not to try to push it along with other drugs. This is what happens after you take mirtazapine at 8 a.m.? Do these symptoms get worse? At what time of day? It is going to take more than a week for the dosage reduction to take effect. Yes, it happens throughout the day after I take it. If I want to stop it how long should it take and how should I do it? But I'm afraid of stopping it because of the improvements. Today I slept ok. Already feeling burning panicky feelings, a more controlled akathisia... Can I do a fast taper to stop? Like using 1.50? December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 I took 1.75mg at 10:30am. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 The akathisia is being more rarsh right now. I took lemongrass tea but it is still rarsh. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 Akathisia will only resolve without meds isn't it? But without it it's even worse... I can't calm down... December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
Moderator manymoretodays Posted December 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2020 Malu, Please give a try at some Notes They are not real difficult, and ultimately, a practice that I think we all could benefit from. Look at the link please and then here is all that we are asking for you to post: What we need to see for every single day over several days is what symptoms you get before and after you take your drugs. If you're not taking any drugs and have withdrawal symptoms, we still need to see your symptom pattern throughout the day: The time of day, dosage, and severity of symptoms are essential information. Include - Time and dosage for all drugs taken throughout the day, psychiatric and non-psychiatric. - Following each dose, note any symptoms. If you are having a reaction to the drug, it may take hours for a symptom to show up -- that's why we ask you to keep notes all day long. - If you're not taking any drugs, your symptoms throughout the day. - Your sleep pattern. Since so many drugs disturb sleep, if you find you're waking in the middle of the night, it could be from a drug you took earlier in the evening. If you're not taking any drugs, there may be ways you can improve your sleep.And so forth. A diary, in chronological order, looking something like this: 6 a.m. Woke with anxiety 8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro 10 a.m. Stomach is upset 10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast 11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch 4 p.m. Feel a bit better 5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro 6 p.m. Ate dinner 9:20 p.m. Headache 10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel 10:20 p.m. Feeling dizzy 10:30 p.m. Fell asleep 2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien") 2:45 a.m. Fell asleep 4:30 a.m. Woke but got back to sleep 6 a.m. Woke with anxiety (but less than yesterday) I think you'll find it really helpful, as time goes by, to do this kind of thing regularly. And then: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, ME, CFS Fibromyalgia Flare Up and Withdrawals https://beyondmeds.com/2013/07/08/psych-drug-withdrawal-cfs-fibromyalgia/ For right now, try some simple things: Breathing: 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Moderator manymoretodays Posted December 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Just the image above is so lovely. Bundle up with blankets if you want too. Imagine.......what Well is going to feel like. And best, L, P, H, and G, mmt Edited December 22, 2020 by manymoretodays 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
malu Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 I woke up at 8 I think I wasnt feeling akathisia at the time if remember well At 10:30 i took mirtazapine 1.75mg After that the akathisia was building up and still is at 14:40 December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 Videos doesn't help The environment doesn't help either, I'm in a quiet place with nature but it doesnt help the akathisia December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
Moderator manymoretodays Posted December 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Work the times over to the left, when posting. And don't forget to get the lemongrass tea in, after the time on the left. It may help too, if you note times on the left, and then when something has helped, or you feel better and have relief of symptoms. And then, post a full 24 hour segment here, when you post it. Thank you. And here is to more natural symptoms relief malu, for you! Edited December 22, 2020 by manymoretodays 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Moderator manymoretodays Posted December 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2020 Audio only perhaps, music, or just a guided meditation? While walking? 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
malu Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 I want to know if me using mirtazapine is making it more difficult for the healing or not.I started using it to make it bearable... December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 15 hours ago, Altostrata said: I have no idea if the mirtazapine can help or if amitriptyline can help. This is why we tell people who are seeing improvement not to try to push it along with other drugs. This is what happens after you take mirtazapine at 8 a.m.? Do these symptoms get worse? At what time of day? It is going to take more than a week for the dosage reduction to take effect. Maybe it was a mistake introduce mirtazapine. Now it's difficult to stop it... I dont know how. And I dont know how to deal with akathisia other than taking liters of lemongrass and trying to meditate (very hard). December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
Moderator manymoretodays Posted December 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2020 malu, We just don't know. And might have a better idea of what to suggest next, if we could see a couple of days of notes. You might try also for a consistent time to take your mirtazapine. So far it's been 8 am, and noon, and then last at 10:30 am. If I were you I think I would stick with taking it later. You are beginning to sound a little repetitive. Let's not even go there yet, and when you do taper, when that day comes, it's not going to be so bad. "Change the channel"- dealing with cognitive symptoms L, P, H, and G, mmt 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted December 23, 2020 Administrator Share Posted December 23, 2020 Do you feel better before you take mirtazapine at 8 a.m.? What are the symptoms you feel after you take it? How have these symptoms changed since you reduced mirtazapine? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
malu Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Altostrata said: Do you feel better before you take mirtazapine at 8 a.m.? What are the symptoms you feel after you take it? How have these symptoms changed since you reduced mirtazapine? Yesterday I was feeling a little better before taking it, yes. Today I feel like crap. Akathisia is controlled right now. But anxiety is increasing. Very depressed. It's 7:26am right now. I feel a hungover. And yesterday I only had a slightly controlled akathisia after 18 (but it was still there). I think maybe with 2mg the akathisia was more controlled. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 11:39 PM, Altostrata said: I have no idea if the mirtazapine can help or if amitriptyline can help. This is why we tell people who are seeing improvement not to try to push it along with other drugs. This is what happens after you take mirtazapine at 8 a.m.? Do these symptoms get worse? At what time of day? It is going to take more than a week for the dosage reduction to take effect. Alto, did I make a mistake introducing mirtazapine? How would I stop using it? Maybe I will face withdrawal from it and it will be completely unbearable. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Oh, about those symptoms Altostrata quoted I didn't notice changes I think. Every time I take it I feel my joints getting rigid. Vision and hearing and cognitive impairment gets worse too. I didn't notice if it was less than before. Maybe. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 I didn't make the notes yet, I just described the day... Oh, I think I'm going to take the med today at 10am. Its 10 and I'm feeling with mild cognitive impairment, my eyes are hurting a bit, the akathisia seems to be increasing, but it's kind of controlled right now. I feel burning in my limbs with panicky and anxious feelings. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 I took 1.75mg of Mirtazapine at 10:25am. 10:45: I feel anxious. I dont feel any good effects immediately. My anxiety/restlessness raised. I took lemongrass tea and felt the effect of the tea, that is very mild. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted December 23, 2020 Administrator Share Posted December 23, 2020 malu, we have asked repeatedly for daily notes, as here We ask for this because it helps us to understand the symptoms you're reporting. We cannot help you without this information. Please look carefully at posts from the staff and answer them completely. For example, I would like to know what you mean by "akathisia". This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
malu Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 I'll try to do better notes tomorrow, today I'll end with these Akathisia: hellish agony that that spreads throughout the body specially the limbs and that doesn't get relief or rest. 7:26: Today I feel like crap. Akathisia is controlled right now. But anxiety is increasing. Very depressed. I feel a hungover. And yesterday I only had a slightly controlled akathisia after 18 (but it was still there). I think maybe with 2mg the akathisia was more controlled. 10:00: I'm feeling with mild cognitive impairment, my eyes are hurting a bit, the akathisia seems to be increasing, but it's kind of controlled right now. I feel burning in my limbs with panicky and anxious feelings. 10:25: I took 1.75mg of Mirtazapine 10:45: I feel anxious. I dont feel any good effects immediately. My anxiety/restlessness raised. I took lemongrass tea and felt the effect of the tea, that is very mild. 11:19: Feeling like crap, hellish agony 14:14: Akathisia increased but not like yesterday (it was worse). 18:50: Milder akathisia and i got more tired. Lemongrass tea helped with the akathisia a little bit, but it's a very limited help. 21:00: low inner restlessness, mild cognitive impairment 22:00: same, feeling tired, but anxious 23:00: anxious, inner restlessness increased December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 I'm doing the notes, I'll post it by the evening. Yesterday I had insomnia. I'm very depressed and with nerve pain right now. I'm not feeling any immediate effects of the mirtazapine, It's like I'm not using anything... I'm afraid of entering more harsh akathisia, I feel the nervous system very fragile and I feel anxiety (and it hurts) and inner restlessness. I just want my body to heal... Sometimes I think of the past, that I could have avoided the kindling of my body so easily, but time doesn't go backwards. I'm stuck in a sensitized body. It's very traumatizing feeling like this everyday. When akathisia is harder I can't even write a text like this, I just suffer and say "help" desperately with no relief. But right now I already can't have a normal conversation with someone. I'm just trying to get to the end of the day alive. It's very traumatizing. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 24 Dec 2020 00:00 anxious, inner restlessness, insomnia 1:00 anxious, inner restlessness, insomnia 2:00 anxious, inner restlessness, insomnia 3:00 anxious, inner restlessness, insomnia 7:37 Woke up, hungover, insomnia, anxiety, depression, joint rigidity, inner restlessness, my tongue is strange all the time 8:00 managed to fall asleep again 10:30 woke up, feeling bad, inner restlessness, anxiety, hungover, burning feelings in my nerves 10:45 Took 1.75mg of Mirtazapine 11:30 raised anxiety, raised burning and panicky feelings in my nerves 12:00 took a shower 12:13 anxiety, burning nerves, joint rigidity 12:30 ate a banana, nerve pain and increasing restlessness 13:00 eating lunch, lack of hunger, depression, nerve pain, anxiety 14:00 anxiety, heart pounding faster, inner restlessness 15:00 took lemon balm tea Feeling a little relief, very little 15:10 ate a mango 15:25 more difficult to bear the nerve symptoms, mild akathisia 15:37 took more lemon balm tea 16:21 anxiety, inner restlessness, feeling a fragile nervous system 17:00 inner restlessness, tense body even trying to relax 17:30 drank passion fruit juice 18:00 inner restlessness 19:00 ate a bread, still feel the same 19:30 I feel more tired 20:00 I try to sleep and fall asleep 25 Dec 2020 01:00 woke up, trying to sleep again 04:00 woke up, trying to sleep again 08:00 woke up very anxious, hungover, burning nerves, depressed, joint rigidity, cognitive impairment December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 25 Dec 2020 01:00 woke up, trying to sleep again 04:00 woke up, trying to sleep again 08:00 woke up very anxious, hungover, burning nerves, depressed, joint rigidity, cognitive impairment 10:45 took 1.75 of Mirtazapine 11:30 anxious, feeling the med being absorved but no relief 11:40 agony, anxiety, inner restlessness, ear pain12:00 took lemon balm tea, very little temporary relief 12:30 inner restlessness I'm thinking of increasing to 2.0mg again because I'm not getting relief of inner restlessness. I can't even have a conversation like this or concentrate on almost anything. Someone help me please. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
Moderator manymoretodays Posted December 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 25, 2020 Hi malu, Is there anything that seems to help with the inner restlessness? Or with any of your symptoms? Non-drug coping that gives you a little bit of relax even? Distractions? Do you pace or bundle up in blankets? It looks like maybe 4 hours sleep last night? And that doesn't help now, does it? I'm feeling a little hesitant on having you go up to 2 mg........just because I'm not certain symptoms were any better then. You may want to scroll back and see, what you noted here, when you were on 2 mg. I think it was just 2 days, and then about the same as now?? We are trying to help, malu. You don't necessarily have to have a conversation with anyone, when feeling so off or badly.......but maybe just being around another, or a pet will help. Are you able to dress, and do daily hygiene, and then perhaps go for a bit of an easy walk? Can you soak in a bathtub? Wishing you the best. And thank you for the notes, good job! L, P, H, and G, mmt 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
malu Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 3 hours ago, manymoretodays said: Hi malu, Is there anything that seems to help with the inner restlessness? Or with any of your symptoms? Non-drug coping that gives you a little bit of relax even? Distractions? Do you pace or bundle up in blankets? It looks like maybe 4 hours sleep last night? And that doesn't help now, does it? I'm feeling a little hesitant on having you go up to 2 mg........just because I'm not certain symptoms were any better then. You may want to scroll back and see, what you noted here, when you were on 2 mg. I think it was just 2 days, and then about the same as now?? We are trying to help, malu. You don't necessarily have to have a conversation with anyone, when feeling so off or badly.......but maybe just being around another, or a pet will help. Are you able to dress, and do daily hygiene, and then perhaps go for a bit of an easy walk? Can you soak in a bathtub? Wishing you the best. And thank you for the notes, good job! L, P, H, and G, mmt "Is there anything that seems to help with the inner restlessness? Or with any of your symptoms? Non-drug coping that gives you a little bit of relax even? Distractions?" I don't know. I can only think of lemon balm tea, but it's limited help. I can't even distract myself on the Internet anymore, I just spend the day trying to get alive by the end of it. "Do you pace or bundle up in blankets?" I use two blankets, but it doesnt seem to help with my problems. "It looks like maybe 4 hours sleep last night? And that doesn't help now, does it?" Exceptionally today I managed to sleep some minutes this afternoon, but woke up with anxiety and inner restlessness already. It's like it's not being restorative. "I'm feeling a little hesitant on having you go up to 2 mg........just because I'm not certain symptoms were any better then. You may want to scroll back and see, what you noted here, when you were on 2 mg. I think it was just 2 days, and then about the same as now??" Yes, but in the second day I remember it being more relaxing, I have to check it out. "You don't necessarily have to have a conversation with anyone, when feeling so off or badly.......but maybe just being around another, or a pet will help." I wish it would help. "Are you able to dress, and do daily hygiene, and then perhaps go for a bit of an easy walk?" I have space here, a lawn to walk, but it doens't help much. I tried to walk with the dog here. I'm doing basic hygiene. "Can you soak in a bathtub?" No, I don't use bathtubs, just the shower, and it used to help, but it isn't helping anymore in the current situation.13:00 anxiety, inner restlessness 13:44 ate bread 14:00 slept a little 14:38 anxiety, inner restlessness 15:00 anxiety, inner restlessness 15:53 anxiety, inner restlessness 16:12 ate a mango 16:13 anxiety, inner restlessness December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 25 Dec 2020 01:00 woke up, trying to sleep again 04:00 woke up, trying to sleep again 08:00 woke up very anxious, hungover, burning nerves, depressed, joint rigidity, cognitive impairment 10:45 took 1.75 of Mirtazapine 11:30 anxious, feeling the med being absorved but no relief 11:40 agony, anxiety, inner restlessness, ear pain 12:00 took lemon balm tea, very little temporary relief 12:30 inner restlessness 13:00 anxiety, inner restlessness 13:44 ate bread 14:00 slept a little 14:38 anxiety, inner restlessness 15:00 anxiety, inner restlessness 15:53 anxiety, inner restlessness 16:12 ate a mango 16:13 anxiety, inner restlessness 18:17 Tired, but subtle inner restlessness 19:00 ate fish 20:00 cognitive impairment, inner restless but less than before 21:00 tired, cognitive impairment, inner restlessness but less than before 26 Dec 2020 00:00 tired, uncomfortable, depressed, insomnia 00:30 fell asleep 9:00 woke up, hungover, uncomfortable, low inner restlessness, depressed, anxiety, joint rigidity 9:10 shower 9:30 depressed, anxiety, cognitive impairment, hearing is strange, low inner restlessness 9:40 drank water, ate a banana 10:00 sunbathed a little bit 10:10 ate breakfast 10:23 depressed, anxiety, low inner restlessness, joint rigidity, burning nerves 10:35 I took 1.75mg of Mirtazapine 11:30 depressed, anxiety, low inner restlessness, joint rigidity, burning nerves December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 I just want to have a normal life again. I just want my body to be cured. How can I do this? How can I be functional again? I forgot to note that today my sleep didn't felt restorative once again... 12:57 tired body, inner restlessness, anxiety, joint rigidity, depression 13:12 took lemon balm tea, temporary relief, but ultimately the same 13:23 tired body, inner restlessness, anxiety, joint rigidity, depression December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
Moderator manymoretodays Posted December 27, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 27, 2020 I know. You got to sunbathe! How cool is that? You hang on and keep moving forward a little at a time. You've had some setbacks, but are headed toward healing now. I do see some lessening in intensity of symptoms noted. So that's good. And did you sleep 8 and 1/2 hours on the 26th?!!!!!! 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
malu Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 26 Dec 2020 00:00 tired, uncomfortable, depressed, insomnia 00:30 fell asleep 9:00 woke up, hungover, uncomfortable, low inner restlessness, depressed, anxiety, joint rigidity 9:10 shower 9:30 depressed, anxiety, cognitive impairment, hearing is strange, low inner restlessness 9:40 drank water, ate a banana 10:00 sunbathed a little bit 10:10 ate breakfast 10:23 depressed, anxiety, low inner restlessness, joint rigidity, burning nerves 10:35 I took 1.75mg of Mirtazapine 11:30 depressed, anxiety, low inner restlessness, joint rigidity, burning nerves 12:57 tired body, inner restlessness, anxiety, joint rigidity, depression 13:12 took lemon balm tea, temporary relief, but ultimately the same 13:23 tired body, inner restlessness, anxiety, joint rigidity, depression 15:01 feeling tired, depressed, anxious, inner restlessness 15:30 increased inner restlessness, increased anxiety (avoid chicken and other meats) 16:30 inner restlessness, anxiety, depression, cognitive impairment 17:30 cried, inner restlessness, anxiety, depression, cognitive impairment 18:30 inner restlessness, anxiety, depression, cognitive impairment 15:00 Ate lentils and chicken 15:01 Feeling tired, depressed, anxious, inner restlessness 15:30 Increased inner restlessness, increased anxiety (avoid chicken and other meats) 16:30 Inner restlessness, anxiety, depression, cognitive impairment 17:30 Cried, inner restlessness, anxiety, depression, cognitive impairment 18:30 Inner restlessness, anxiety, depression, cognitive impairment 20:30 anxiety, lower inner restlessness, tiredness, depression, cognitive impairment 23:30 feel asleep 27 Dec 2020 7:00 woke up, depression, anxiety, joint rigidity, low inner restlessness 8:00 sunbathing 8:40 depression, anxiety, joint rigidity, low inner restlessness 9:45 inner restlessness, depression, anxiety, joint rigidity 10:30 took 1.75mg of Mirtazapine 11:36 joint rigidity, depression, anxiety, inner restlessness 13:00 ate more than usual 13:30 or so, tired, slept 14:00 woke up with joint rigidity, depression, anxiety, inner restlessness 15:42 joint rigidity, depression, anxiety, inner restlessness 15:45 burnings nerves 15:51 took lemon balm tea 15:52 feel the same 16:25 inner restlessness, burning nerves, depression, joint rigidity 17:00 same 18:00 tired, inner restlessness, depression, burning nerves, joint rigidity 18:30 ate some fruits 19:00 low inner restlessness, depressiom, burning nerves, joint rigidity, more tired December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 18 hours ago, manymoretodays said: I know. You got to sunbathe! How cool is that? You hang on and keep moving forward a little at a time. You've had some setbacks, but are headed toward healing now. I do see some lessening in intensity of symptoms noted. So that's good. And did you sleep 8 and 1/2 hours on the 26th?!!!!!! Yes, comparing today with when I started mirtazapine I'm better now. Although it's still difficult to live functionally and inner restlessness is still present and I'm still trying to cope with it. But it's a much bearable inner restlessness. Before it was a hellish agony/akathisia. Yes, I did sleep 8 1/2 hours that day, but I didn't think it was so restorative. I still have difficulty in doing basic things like having a conversation, watching or reading something, spending time on the Internet... Thank you. December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 27 Dec 2020 7:00 woke up, depression, anxiety, joint rigidity, low inner restlessness 8:00 sunbathing 8:40 depression, anxiety, joint rigidity, low inner restlessness 9:45 inner restlessness, depression, anxiety, joint rigidity 10:30 took 1.75mg of Mirtazapine 11:36 joint rigidity, depression, anxiety, inner restlessness 13:00 ate more than usual 13:30 or so, tired, slept 14:00 woke up with joint rigidity, depression, anxiety, inner restlessness 15:42 joint rigidity, depression, anxiety, inner restlessness 15:45 burnings nerves 15:51 took lemon balm tea 15:52 feel the same 16:25 inner restlessness, burning nerves, depression, joint rigidity 17:00 same 18:00 tired, inner restlessness, depression, burning nerves, joint rigidity 18:30 ate some fruits 19:00 low inner restlessness, depression, burning nerves, joint rigidity, more tired 21:27 tired, inner restlessness, depression, burning nerves 21:00 ate bread and eggs 22:00 slept 28 Dec 2020 3:00 woke up 3:10 tired, depressed, inner restlessness, burning nerves, anxiety 3:40 drank water Woke up and tried to sleep several times 8:50 woke up 9:20 tired, depressed, inner restlessness, burning nerves, anxiety, joint rigidity 10:30 took 1.75 of Mirtazapine 10:35 tired, depressed, inner restlessness, burning nerves, anxiety, joint rigidity December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 I can't cope right now. I can't even be in the computer or phone... Maybe I should up the dose to 2mg? I don't know... 11:00 are bread and eggs 11:30 anxiety, inner restlessness, depression, joint rigidity, burning nerves 13:00 same 13:30 took lemon balm tea 13:30 same 14:00 increased inner restlessness 14:00 ate a mango 14:27 increased inner restlessness hell (akathisia but less intense than one week ago) 15:00 took passion fruit juice 15:10 same, increased inner restlessness hell akathisia December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
malu Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 28 Dec 2020 3:00 woke up 3:10 tired, depressed, inner restlessness, burning nerves, anxiety 3:40 drank water Woke up and tried to sleep several times 8:50 woke up 9:20 tired, depressed, inner restlessness, burning nerves, anxiety, joint rigidity 10:30 took 1.75 of Mirtazapine 10:35 tired, depressed, inner restlessness, burning nerves, anxiety, joint rigidity 11:00 are bread and eggs 11:30 anxiety, inner restlessness, depression, joint rigidity, burning nerves 13:00 same 13:30 took lemon balm tea 13:30 same 14:00 increased inner restlessness 14:00 ate a mango 14:27 increased inner restlessness hell (akathisia but less intense than one week ago) 15:00 took passion fruit juice 15:10 same, increased inner restlessness hell akathisia 16:00 took Lemon balm tea 16:10 slight relief but inner restlessness hell 16:41 ate lunch 18:00 took a stronger lemon balm tea, felt a little relief 20:00 ate eggs, bread 20:50 inner restlessness,joint rigidity, anxiety, depression, tired, cognitive impairment 23:00 tired, depression, anxiety, burning nerves, can't think straight 23:30 trying to sleep, fell asleep 29 Dec 2020 Woke up several times 7:51 woke up 10:38 depressed, anxiety, low inner restlessness, tired, joint rigidity, hungover 10:45 took 1.75mg of Mirtazapine 11:00 took shower 11:15 depressed, anxiety, low inner restlessness, tired, joint rigidity, hungover 11:56 just noticed blurred vision 12:00 took 1 capsule of fish oil to test 12:00 inner restlessness 12:54 lunched 13:20 increased inner restlessness, depressed, anxiety, cognitive impairment, blurred vision, decreased hearing, joint rigidity, inner restlessness, mild akathisia, burning nerves December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor) October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey) April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab) May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills. Supplements: used magnesium chloride, b12. Sensitivity to it in my nervous system. December 2019: Mirtazapine 4.5mg and stopped at almost zero. Used to take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg pills regularly until beggining of 2020. Estradiol gel on Sep. and Oct. of 2020 and was having collateral effect in my nervous system. First half of 2020: Symbicort (corticosteroid) 19 December 2020: Mirtazapine 2mg 21 December 2020: Mirtazapine 1.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted December 29, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 29, 2020 Are you listing all the food that you eat in your symptom diary? If yes, then low blood sugar from not eating regularly throughout the day may be contributing to your symptoms/making them worse. It's important to keep your blood sugar level throughout the day. You don't have to eat a lot but having small, nutritious amounts of food throughout the day might make a difference with how you feel. From https://www.newhealthadvisor.org/symptoms-of-not-eating-enough.html Symptoms of Not Eating Enough: 1. You Have Low Energy 5. You Experience Quick Mood Shifts 8. You Cannot Sleep Comfortably 9. You Feel Depressed 12. You Experience Headaches and This webpage has a diagram showing where and how the body can be affected: https://www.healthline.com/health/low-blood-sugar-effects-on-body#1 Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you PLEASE NOTE: I am not a medical professional. I provide information and make suggestions. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
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