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 apologize that i cant keep things brief for the life of me right now

 

I just wanted to say... I recognize this... I know it from the inside out the way your writing just now shows how your thinking and I have been there... I don't know if it is some difficulty I have with remembering thinking this way or if it is some cognitive shift I am in now that makes understanding it and indeed much clarity undefinable for me just now... in this stage but I know where you are. 

 

There are shifts all the time and none of this is ever documented but if it were I am sure a pattern would evolve I am not sure what it would tell us that could be thought tangible maybe something on a pattern to certain recoveries.  I just wanted to tell you I see it.. and that I know it. I am not sure why... just wanted to tell you. 

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WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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the consent forms were to keep him safe from legal action and also to inform me quite explicitly of the risks you see in the psych med literature.  so id peruse and ask "what is akathisia?" and "what is tardive dyskinesia?"---because even though i had studied psych meds before i was ever taking them, my memory was already shot by the time i was signing half those forms anyway.  they werent the black box book of 100 symptoms per medication, but the standard pharmacy print-out type thing.

 

however, when i had a 3 day long panic attack precipitated by the antipsychotic geodon, he advised me to keep on the same dose.  i think he allowed me to taper back when antipsychotics were causing mild flutters of dyskinesia (nothing nearly as serious as now), but he denied all medication involvement in the destruction of my memory and cognition, and even a lot of my weight gain.  he actually had the audacity to claim that, if anything, its the weed messing everything up.  well, i quit the psych meds and kept with the occasional cannabis and guess whose theory won out?

 

you are right, though---i do NOT feel functional enough to be responsibly considering my legal situation and the options residing within the different paths presented.  in withdrawal, i have had emotional issues, impulsivity issues, problems with memory and cognition and understanding, etc.  all the standard stuff.  and they seem more set up to deal with, as you said, the people already through it all---the people who had some weeks or months of terror (or, moderate pain, given that they mostly listed some of the less endangering side effects).

 

i dont have a specific interest in pursuing reparation through legal means...i never saw that as a meaningful or even necessarily viable option, so i am not interested in doing anything that would have up-front costs or be so involving that it deteriorates my health even further.  i also share the concern that trying for a settlement too early could mean missing out on compensation for even more insidious or long term side effects, or higher payments due to the court becoming more informed about the severe nature of protracted withdrawal.  but, since they said itd take 2 years to take it federal, any sort of help is a long time away anyway.  but i do figure that i may still be withdrawing to meaningful severity in another 2 years, and would really be helped by a cash sum.  it would probably disqualify me for my disability benefits, but i might be able to retain my healthcare and then reapply for disability payments (if i needed them/once the lump sum was invested into life necessities or living expenses).  if i am healthy enough to work more significantly then, it could be seed money for an art career, as there is a kinda pricey technological buy-in cost.

 

$700 is pretty pitiful, yeah.  thats a fuckin breadcrumb, and an affront.  to my knowledge, these people are proposing something more individualized and compensatory.  since it was never an aspiration, i have not done research into the 'best' personal injury firm for this sort of thing, or how to test the qualities and qualifications when i am looking for them.  it is, most often, beyond my ability to put forth effort, concentration, and the manual mental and physical labor required.  but, it is a consideration, at this point.  and, seeing how long it would take to make progress, i might be best off making it a summertime goal.

 

id be interested in the video if i had the energy and attention span.  i saw you posted it elsewhere for comment.  big pharma 'moving on' to 'treat withdrawal' was meant to be taken on their terms, to be clear.  cooking up drugs and procedures that supposedly aid in recovery from/dealing with the symptoms brought on by their other drugs and procedures.  so probably nothing curative, and most likely a marketable combination of snake oil and further damaging chemical poison.  the great thing about being a drug company is that people acknowledge the necessity and fittingness of your existing---its rare people ask "why are you still taking that??" instead of "why are you not still taking that??"...the lack of an available cure is the impetus behind the majority of medicinal treatments in the western establishment.  (and even things that can cure, like antibiotics or some chemotherapies, are quite liable to cause the exact problems they are treating...infections, cancer, compromised bodies that fall ill to other maladies.)

 

my constant struggle with brevity, the past few years, has probably played a role in deteriorating my friendships and dating life.  its a side effect mentioned in the literature...your brain cant properly filter.

from 2005-2012, i spent 7 years taking 17 different psychotropic medications covering several classes.  i would be taking 3-7 medications at a time, and 6 out of the 17 medications listed below were maxed or overmaxed in clinical dosage before i moved on to trying the next unhelpful cocktail.
 
antidepressants (SSRIs, SNRIs, NDRIs, tetracyclics): zoloft, wellbutrin, effexor, lexapro, prozac, cymbalta, remeron
antipsychotics (atypical): abilify, zyprexa, risperdal, geodon
sleep aids (benzos, off-label antidepressants & antipsychotics, hypnotics): seroquel, temazepam, trazodone, ambien
anxiolytics: buspar
anticonvulsants: topamax
 
i tapered off all psychotropics from late 2011 through early 2013, one by one.  since quitting, ive been cycling through severe, disabling withdrawal symptoms spanning the gamut of the serious, less serious, and rather worrisome side effects of these assorted medications.  previous cross-tapering and medication or dosage changes had also caused undiagnosed withdrawal symptoms.
 
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update: the phrase "protracted withdrawal" got dem on da run.  they asked for further history details after the cymbalta thing wasnt a good fit (due to the timetable), but the nature of protracted withdrawal or fact that 2012-2013 were the last dates of medicating has them less than eager.  (either that or because i asked a bunch of questions about their practices/the nature of the potential settlement, but thats a bit paranoid.)  they said to perhaps contact another firm, which i may or may not bother to do.  it was never a goal, and this seems like an uphill battle that few lawyers would want to touch and i myself am probably not an ideal case to push forward with even if someone found it a cause to support.

 

thanks for your collective and respective support and input!  ill let it sit a while.

from 2005-2012, i spent 7 years taking 17 different psychotropic medications covering several classes.  i would be taking 3-7 medications at a time, and 6 out of the 17 medications listed below were maxed or overmaxed in clinical dosage before i moved on to trying the next unhelpful cocktail.
 
antidepressants (SSRIs, SNRIs, NDRIs, tetracyclics): zoloft, wellbutrin, effexor, lexapro, prozac, cymbalta, remeron
antipsychotics (atypical): abilify, zyprexa, risperdal, geodon
sleep aids (benzos, off-label antidepressants & antipsychotics, hypnotics): seroquel, temazepam, trazodone, ambien
anxiolytics: buspar
anticonvulsants: topamax
 
i tapered off all psychotropics from late 2011 through early 2013, one by one.  since quitting, ive been cycling through severe, disabling withdrawal symptoms spanning the gamut of the serious, less serious, and rather worrisome side effects of these assorted medications.  previous cross-tapering and medication or dosage changes had also caused undiagnosed withdrawal symptoms.
 
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Way to go on digging deeper and really checking things out.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

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update: the phrase "protracted withdrawal" got dem on da run.  they asked for further history details after the cymbalta thing wasnt a good fit (due to the timetable), but the nature of protracted withdrawal or fact that 2012-2013 were the last dates of medicating has them less than eager.  (either that or because i asked a bunch of questions about their practices/the nature of the potential settlement, but thats a bit paranoid.)  they said to perhaps contact another firm, which i may or may not bother to do.  it was never a goal, and this seems like an uphill battle that few lawyers would want to touch and i myself am probably not an ideal case to push forward with even if someone found it a cause to support.

 

thanks for your collective and respective support and input!  ill let it sit a while.

If you want to look into the history a bit I just found a link to an old site .... 

http://www.network54.com/Forum/281849/thread/1195650408/expert+working+group+review+of+SSRIs+..........2004

 

I have not read it all but noticed this post I cannot explain but it is still interesting:

 

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Will that be why one or two US websites disappeared at around the time of the Paxil settlement over there?

 

    Respond to this message    admin Don't worry GSK, the 'seroxat' member here decided AGAINST joining the class action, so... November 22 2007, 11:51 AM 

this site will remain whatever happens re the UK seroxat / paxil class action, just in case you were wondering.

Your drugs therefore will continue to get the attention they deserve, alongside those of your fellow drug makers.

    Respond to this message    morse mssg for GSK November 22 2007, 12:18 PM 

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRI-Crusaders/

 

SSRI Crusaders will continue to expose your corruption long after you have finished your little dance with Mark Harvey.

&

thanks to the "way back" machine I will continue to expose corrupt lawyers who USE vulnerable clients in a process they call litigation but is nothing more than BLACKMAIL dressed up in media sensationalism.

.

   

 

 

the site did not remain.. to the best of my knowledge it is gone too. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Someone from the PSSD yahoo group wants to start a class action lawsuit because of PSSD.

Here's the link https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SSRIsex/conversations/messages/27313

 

 

All,

For many reasons articulated in previous emails, not the least of which is causation and statutes of limitations, the prospects of success in a class action is not the best.  HOWEVER, new peer-reviewed evidence emerges literally every day, seemingly.  In addition, re: statutes of limitations, I am inclined to throw in a claim for human experimentation, for which no statute of limitations exists.  This claim would be supported by the fact that essentially, hundreds of peer-reviewed articles on SSRIs from 1987 to the present day conclude with, in effect, "we have no idea how these drugs work, the scope of what they affect, or the long-term consequences of such as-yet-unknown mechanisms of operation, especially when administered to the still-developing brain and nervous system."  If that's not experimentation I don't know what is.  As far as the law is concerned, human experimentation hinges on informed consent.  If your psy-doc was anything like mine, which I imagine to be the case based on the seven psy-doc quacks I have visited, your initial session went something like "I don't know you, or anything about you or the root of your problems, but don't even bother thinking about lifestyle adjustments (diet and exercise), just take these drugs and save yourself a lot of trouble." No further warnings of any kind, let alone that what's prescribed is in fact experimental, literally.  On the flip side, when wishing to discontinue due to horrific side effects, "just taper off for a couple weeks"--after years on the stuff.  Peer-reviewed articles now clearly prove prolonged and dreadful withdrawal states (dubbed "discontinuation syndrome, LOL).  This gets more into medical malpractice, which we'd each have to bring on a case-by-case basis, but anyway the point is: 
 
With just FORTY members, from ANYWHERE in the U.S., a class can be certified in New Jersey, where I am licensed to practice.  The downside, is, as many are likely aware, New Jersey is VERY Pharma-friendly, as Pharma is among the State's primary sources of bread and butter.  The statute of limitations is just two years from date of discovery, and I'm sure judges are rewarded in various ways for pro-Pharma holdings as well.  But if we can get our membership in front of a jury, tearfully sharing our horror stories and the scope of conditions that ONLY emerged AFTER "treatment" (in rebuttal to "its' only our 'disease' returning), anything is possible. We know ourselves better than any Dr. who will argue "it's just the symptoms of the disease worsening"an opinion which, of course, is based preposterously on nothing more than a pre-prescription office visit that lasted all of 15 minutes!
 
So, if you're out there, please reply. No need to provide personal info, but if 40 people reply, I can begin to contemplate moving forward and/or soliciting a firm that specializes in product liability. 

 

So if you want to answer Craig's post, here's the link https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SSRIsex/conversations/messages/27313

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This is great news

Thank god eventually someone is taking action and leading the effort for the justice millions victims deserve the most!

I tried but didn't figure out how to join the group.

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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Thank you for posting this.  I had never heard that there are open time frames if it's deemed experimentation took place without a person's consent, and that's a good argument (at least, from my viewpoint, as someone without a legal background) about doctors being ignorant of how drugs work.

 

To further the idea it qualifies as experimentation, it's said the fourth phase of clinical trials is the post-marketing phase, which is run on..the public.

 

Also anyone who was given a drug for a true "off label" reason has possible grounds to claim they were being experimented on.

 

I hope this gets somewhere. 

 

Also, does anyone know if the statutes re experimentation run out in other countries?

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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I was given the sample lexapro for two weeks to start without any sour diagnose, just like that, then my life has been gone ever since!

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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I was given the sample lexapro for two weeks to start without any sour diagnose, just like that, then my life has been gone ever since!

 

Well I hope you can get somewhere, that's totally brutal!

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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I was given the sample lexapro for two weeks to start without any sour diagnose, just like that, then my life has been gone ever since!

 

Has there been any progress with the PSSD litigation?  I want to join the class-action lawsuit because I was victimized by psychiatrists that gave me PSSD as a child, which is a sexual offense against a child in my opinion.

I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s.  All doctors would cold turkey me from medications.  I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one.  I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages.  I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged.  The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin.  However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds.  I want to try to get off everything now once again.  I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me.

 

UPDATE:

 

I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years.  May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist.  I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage.

 

Current meds:  1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin

 

Current side effects:  PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth

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if you have money for lawyers, and are sure several psychiatrists will check you, and testify notices researches to make proof that pills give  you pssd, that pssd is not a worsen of your original problems, because if you were prescribed psychotics, you had sure psycho problems when young

 

why not !...

for anxiety 

12 years paxil - cold turkey 1,5 month - switch celexa 1 year taper; total 13 years on brain meds 

67 years old - 9 years  med free

 

in protracted withdrawal

rigidity standing and walking, dryness gougerot-szoegren, sleep deteriorate,

function as have a lack of nerves, improving have been very little 

 

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I hope he gets Glenmullen as an expert witness 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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https://www.equities.com/news/bailey-peavy-bailey-cowan-heckaman-files-lawsuits-over-paxil

 

25 May 2016,

Bailey Peavy Bailey Cowan Heckaman Files Lawsuits Over Paxil/paroxetine GlaxoSmithKline, plc (GSK) developed and marketed Paxil/paroxetine  and has been litigating for more than a decade against cases brought on behalf of children born with congenital birth defects allegedly linked to Paroxetine exposure during pregnancy. 

 

In 2005, at FDA's request, GSK revised the Paroxetine  pregnancy warning to include a statement that Paroxetine use during pregnancy may increase the risk of fetal harm.  Paroxetine  is the only antidepressant to include this warning.

 

Adam Peavy, lead counsel for the plaintiffs, says,

"These are the first of what we believe will be many cases that will be filed against GSK on behalf of children with autism spectrum disorder."

 

The alarming increase in the number of ASD cases has imposed a tremendous economic cost upon the nation, local school districts and families.  The CDC estimates that the total economic cost per year for children with ASD ranges from $11.5 billion - $60.9 billion (2011 US dollars).

 

Mario D'Angelo, co-counsel for plaintiffs, says,

"Taxpayers and local school districts should not have to bear the burden of providing services for those injured by GSK's negligence.

 

We are investigating what legal remedies our clients' local school districts may have to recover these costs from GSK.

 

The number of reported autism spectrum disorder (ASD) cases in the United States has skyrocketed by more than 750% since 1998.  The ASD epidemic has coincided with the explosive increase in the use antidepressants during pregnancy. 

 

The number of women of childbearing age taking antidepressants increased 400% between 1994 and 2008.

 

Since 2011, epidemiological studies have reported an increased risk of ASD in children of mothers who took antidepressants like paroxetine  during pregnancy.

 

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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So far it seems to me only possible attention to this global crime of Ssri is the money concern, which is better than nothing, but makes sad and mad that people's lives and suffer are insignificant to money.

 

What a cruel world and what's wrong with the human being!

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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Whats being revealed here is truly horrifying.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Thanks very much for finding and sharing this, NZ. It's really criminal and I'm also very bothered by the huge increase in the number of kids being given psych meds. We hear this criticized all over the media, but nothing happens to halt the rush to screw up the children. If this had been happening when I was a kid I'd have been dosed to the gills and my poor mother, who had a "nervous breakdown" from which she recovered completely after a few months, would have been medicated for life, passing the foul drugs on to my sister and me prenatally.

 

I clicked on your link and it was dead, but I found this http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bailey-peavy-bailey-cowan-heckaman-files-lawsuits-over-paxil-300274621.html.

Diagnosed w/ ADD and minor depression in 1990. Fluoxetine 20 mg/day. Also methylphenidate, but hated it and quit after about a week. Quit fluoxetine cold turkey (ignorance) 18 January 2013. Experienced brain zaps, flu symptoms, heart palpitations. Nothing after August 2013. Mirtazapine 15 mg/day for sleep beginning around 1999. Began tapering August 2013.  As of March 2015 I'm off mirtazapine and antidepressant free. Don't sleep well after sunrise, feel anxious and sad some of the time, still have tinnitus. Still occasionally take lorazepam for anxiety but never more than 1 mg.  Prescribed metoprolol (beta blocker) for atrial fibrillation diagnosed June 2013. Medical  opinion (two cardiologists) is that it's not caused by fluoxetine w/drawal and is a dangerous, chronic condition requiring lifelong medication. As of Aug 2013 heart palpitations for the most part ceased. Tapered beta blocker and am off of it as of Jan 2015. No wd symptoms or recurring afib at all so far. Maybe it was wd after all, but doctors don't think so, surprise surprise. However, a small victory: the last doctor I related this to shrugged her shoulders. Getting lots of exercise, which has me physically pretty robust at age 71 in spite of persistence of mirt wd symptoms, mainly insomnia and anxiety, but also jaw-clenching annoyance at noises of a certain pitch and timbre. Incessant media fixation on the presidential campaign has ruined my disposition and my faith in the future. My Introduction.

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Sad.  Nobody even wanted to follow us.........I mean professionally..........my son and I.  I did my whole pregnancy on an MAO inhibitor.  Sad.  I was still a medical professional and asked to be........my shrink at the time said..........oh, good point but........noooooooooo.  In all honesty though.....it would have been chaos no doubt had they taken me off "their way" during.  I did that later.......with poor results and much further medication.

 

I just wish I had the know how and energy to start some kind of behavioral(for lack of a better term) preschool or after school program with other ways to address children who are challenged or challenging for parents.  I think that there used to be a lot more of that kind of intervention available for families and kids........pre "the overmedication of everyone".

 

Sad though........hope my young adult boy makes it.........positive "rooting" thoughts for him please.  If anyone can be just "a little autistic or a little aspergers" well........that's my dear son.

 

I can't even read the links right now.......

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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In 2005, at FDA's request, GSK revised the Paroxetine  pregnancy warning to include a statement that Paroxetine use during pregnancy may increase the risk of fetal harm.  Paroxetine  is the only antidepressant to include this warning.

 

I bet it is not the only AD to cause "fetal harm" nice lawyer words.  Once a company posts a warning about a side effect of a drug be it wd or fetal harm it apparently makes it bullet proof to litigation as you have been warned.. it does not have to be included with the drug when you first pick it up at the drug store... that sheet you get only once here in Canada will have a few of the issues but not all of them ... not by a long shot... just  a few.  They don't have to present you with the information they just have to make it publicly accessible ...putting it on the FDA website is good enough... that is your informed consent.. so paxil makers are quickest to cover their butts using the most generic term ... as they likely have science in their vaults that investigators don't know yet.. and they can't spill the beans tell them what the drug actually cause it.. yep it is a good generic term. 

That is how it works... discontinuation was added to all the labels long after I started taking the drug... so it does not cover me when I was looking for a  lawyer none would take a wd case.  There is a new idea that since the makers don't know how the drugs work all of us have been 4 stage trial participants for years and we did not consent to that it is being examined now to see if it will fly. 

peace 

In 2005, at FDA's request, GSK revised the Paroxetine  pregnancy warning to include a statement that Paroxetine use during pregnancy may increase the risk of fetal harm.  Paroxetine  is the only antidepressant to include this warning.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Ibid i tried the link and it is working for me so not too sure whats happening there.

Google this and you should find it.

Bailey Peavy Bailey Cowan Heckaman Files Lawsuits Over Paxil PR Newswire | Wednesday, 25 May 2016 16:00 (EST)

 


Can someone explain to me how the heck this GSK company can still be allowed to trade as a going concern the whole damn company should be frozen and all assets liquidated...and paid to help those harmed.

Why is noone doing a thing!!

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Hi nz,

 

The answer is in this documentary movie called 'prescription Thug' which I watched on Netflix. I wished so much to share it here from You Tube, but every posted full movie there are not playable (must be banned by the government)

 

If anyone has a netflix account, I highly recommend watching it. It reveals The dark crimes of these legal yet most dangerous drugs

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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Hi nz,

 

The answer is in this documentary movie called 'prescription Thug' which I watched on Netflix. I wished so much to share it here from You Tube, but every posted full movie there are not playable (must be banned by the government)

 

If anyone has a netflix account, I highly recommend watching it. It reveals The dark crimes of these legal yet most dangerous drugs

 

Note to myself...find and watch this movie sometime soon.

nz11

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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In 2005, at FDA's request, GSK revised the Paroxetine  pregnancy warning to include a statement that Paroxetine use during pregnancy may increase the risk of fetal harm.  Paroxetine  is the only antidepressant to include this warning.

 

I bet it is not the only AD to cause "fetal harm" nice lawyer words.  Once a company posts a warning about a side effect of a drug be it wd or fetal harm it apparently makes it bullet proof to litigation as you have been warned.. it does not have to be included with the drug when you first pick it up at the drug store... that sheet you get only once here in Canada will have a few of the issues but not all of them ... not by a long shot... just  a few.  They don't have to present you with the information they just have to make it publicly accessible ...putting it on the FDA website is good enough... that is your informed consent.. so paxil makers are quickest to cover their butts using the most generic term ... as they likely have science in their vaults that investigators don't know yet.. and they can't spill the beans tell them what the drug actually cause it.. yep it is a good generic term. 

That is how it works... discontinuation was added to all the labels long after I started taking the drug... so it does not cover me when I was looking for a  lawyer none would take a wd case.  There is a new idea that since the makers don't know how the drugs work all of us have been 4 stage trial participants for years and we did not consent to that it is being examined now to see if it will fly. 

peace 

In 2005, at FDA's request, GSK revised the Paroxetine  pregnancy warning to include a statement that Paroxetine use during pregnancy may increase the risk of fetal harm.  Paroxetine  is the only antidepressant to include this warning.

 

Yah.........I don't think I would ever go the legal route...........much more likely to warn some younger woman and help them safely go off whatever prescribed substance.  Tis crazy making though........especially in the NOW of things...........when so many of these "hippocratic and do no harm" physicians just keep on keeping on with same old................  At least here in the states they seem to be the leading authorities on mental health care, yet show up at no peer type conferences or such.  Too busy, busy I guess to care........to really care.........

 

Hey........gives me an idea.  When I'm well enough or further healed I should make multiple appointments with those shrinks on my insurance plan...........as for a mere co-pay I could hit them with a packet of collected articles and wisdom..........even summarize it for them...........and ask them to join me in support of better programs and services.

 

They are getting more careful, at least a few from what I hear...........not just in covering their own rather large butts(egos).........but in prescribing.  The weird thing..........back when I was working at a teaching hospital.......twice I recall an intern or resident not doing well...........and then being "shunted" off to change their tract to psychiatry.........as it was looked upon as the lesser of the truly medical areas or somehow easier to get by in for those having problems in pediatric rotations. 

 

Again........were talking a couple decades ago when this happened.

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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Hmmm. Let's see if we can guess what medications these kids will be given to treat their 'condition'?

2001: 20mg paroxetine
2003-2014: Switched between 20mg citalopram and 10mg escitalopram with several failed CT's
2015: Jan/ Feb-very fast taper off citalopram; Mar/ Apr-crashed; 23 Apr-reinstated 5mg; 05 May-updosed to 10mg; 15 Jul-started taper; Aug-9.0mg; Sep-8.1mg; Oct-7.6mg; Nov-6.8mg; Dec-6.2mg
2016: Jan-5.7mg; Feb-5.2mg; Mar-5.0mg;  Apr-4.5mg; May-4.05mg; Jun-3.65mg; Jul-3.3mg; Aug-2.95mg; 04Sep-2.65mg; 25Sep-2.4mg; 23Oct-2.15mg; 13Nov-1.95mg; 04Dec-1.75mg; 25Dec-1.55mg.
2017: 08Jan-1.4mg; 22Jan-1.25mg; 12Feb-1.1mg; 26Feb-1.0mg; 05Mar-0.9mg; 15Mar-0.8mg; 22Mar-0.7mg; 02Apr-0.6; 09Apr-0.5mg; 16Apr-0.4mg; 23Apr-0.3; 03May-0.2mg; 10May-0.1mg

Finished taper 17 May 2017.

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Hi,

 

I am wondering why there hasn't been a class action lawsuit yet against the drug makers of ssris and other poisons.

 

I would like some money from the government and apologies. Big ones. Preferrably with them on their knees.

 

I feel that if there isn't some class action lawsuit of some sort, or action, which I would very much like to be a apart of, but with a group of people, I would be broken hearted in a way.

 

I would like justice for all the people and poor children harmed by psychiatry.

 

I would like this done yesterday,

 

Anybody have any ideas on what we can do? If the mainstream media does not want to address it, is there any way then we can create change in the US internally? Get rid of the dirty politicians and other corrupt systems such as FDA? Somebody brave needs to step in.

2010 started 10 mg celexa, 2011 went up to 20 mg

06/2014 started tapering (20 mg,10 mg alternate days)

19/09/2014 crashed at 10 mg

20/09/2014 updosed to 20 mg to try and stabilize- Never stabilized and CNS basically plummeted

August 31 2015- Started my 5% taper anyways

May 3 2016- At 14 mg the tapering caught up with me- Withdrawal included severe anxiety, feeling like im on speed, suicidal and homicidal ideation, akathesia, feeling like I was on heroin, memory loss, PGAD, feeling like I was on an acid

May 4 2016- Updosed to 15.5 mg to try and stabilize

​June 4- Started taking 2 mg 5 times a day which adds up to 10 mg because of akathesia when taking my full dose. Akathesia symtpoms smaller

July 27th- Dropped from 15.5 mg to 10 mg because could no longer tolerate taking drug- bad side effects mainly akathesia and emotional deadness.

​Oct 11- Improved a lot since May 4th after my crash. Withdrawal symptoms still left- DR/DP, emotional anasthesia, akathesia, tingling in head, feeling like my body and face disappears, messed up sound interpretation, perception and difficulty reading social and emotional cues during DR/DP, apathy, inability to tell if I am in dream or reality, disturbed sleep. Started having few windows

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I filled the complaint with the local authorities in Austria, but I think for this to function a class law suit against the pharma company would be necessary, the best somewhere in the US or in other similar country. I have very good experience with general attorney of Texas, they are very efficient.

 

Therefore if anyone was harmed by Lyrica and is within 3 years period from acknowledging harm, please write here your contact details or PM me. It is not important from which country you come from.

 

This whole is to find out if we can form a mass of people who can declare (and hopefully prove) they were harmed from Lyrica and then we can give it to check to some attorney, we would have much more chance by a trial and it would be also much more cheaper.

 

 

Thank you, Martina

05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

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In Europe there is also this possibility to ground a citizen initiative with some programm like idea to abolish or diminish the use of the psychiatric drugs, which has to get 1 million of signatures and the European Commision has to check this proposal and build it into the law. It has to have 7 members from 7 countries of EU. If anyone thinks that he would try it with me, I would be prepared to try it. For 1 million of signatures we would have one year from signing of initiative.

05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

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What about starting a petition on change.org?

1997 - 2011: Diagnosed with anxiety & insomnia at age 16 put on 50mg Amitriptyline


2011 - 2013: Diagnosed with BPD & depression. Went through a number of medications including Nortriptyline, Seroquel & Lexipro

2013 - 2015: Switched to 225mg of Effexor and made major diet & lifestyle changes plus explored vitamin supplementation while working with a functional practitioner. Saw a major improvement and by 2014 no longer displayed BPD symptoms and psychiatrist decided I was "misdiagnosed" and only had depressed & anxiety.

March 2015 - October 2015 - Spent 5 months going off of Effexor and was completely off for 8 months. Experienced major and severe depression, anxiety and insomnia - Tardive Dysphoria/Oppositional Tolerance. Consistent thoughts of suicide, couldn't function, work, get out of bed or look after myself so I went back on Effexor 150 mg.

October 2015 - Present - Effexor 150

 

I’ve made every lifestyle change possible (regular meditation/exercise, eating cleanly and have no micronutrient or mineral deficiencies thanks to working with a functional practitioner) and although I think it has helped greatly in stabilising my mental health it was not enough when I tapered off over 5 months in 2015.

 

Thanks to the wonderful people in SA I have realised my last taper was way to fast and now I finally have a plan to go off of Effexor and plan to start this week! 24/7/2016

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Actually, there IS a class action lawsuit being led by a group of people, and a law firm has agreed to represent if they can get enough plaintiffs!  The lawsuit is for people in the US who have come down with movement disorders from psych meds.  That means if you have akathisia, dystonia, or dyskinesia, or myoclonus, you PLEASE need to call this firm!!  Pasted below is the info that I found online.  I have already called:

 

"Have you come down with a movement disorder from psych meds, whether they were prescribed to you on-label OR off-label? Did you come down with permanent or temporary dystonia or dyskinesia or akathisia or myoclonus from psych meds?

Please join me and others who are working through a law firm to hold the pharma companies accountable!!! Me and other victims are joining forces to hold the pharma companies accountable.

Call Grisham and Barnhardt at 434-293-2939. Ask to speak with attorneys Tyler or Addison, or with their assistant Bethany. Please, we need ALL the victims to come forward, no matter how long ago this happened to you!"

 

*I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience
**Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not
-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014

-All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness.  It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage.  All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors 

-Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine

-Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey)

-Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011
-Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less)

-Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week

-Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs 

-First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened

-Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD.  Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed.  NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it.

-Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned
-Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia
-Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat
-Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged
-7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia

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There IS a lawsuit in effect in the US.  Pasted below is the info I found online.  I already called, and I urge others to call, too:

"Have you come down with a movement disorder from psych meds, whether they were prescribed to you on-label OR off-label? Did you come down with permanent or temporary dystonia or dyskinesia or akathisia or myoclonus from psych meds?

Please join me and others who are working through a law firm to hold the pharma companies accountable!!! Me and other victims are joining forces to hold the pharma companies accountable.
 

Call Grisham and Barnhardt at 434-293-2939. Ask to speak with attorneys Tyler or Addison, or with their assistant Bethany. Please, we need ALL the victims to come forward, no matter how long ago this happened to you!"

*I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience
**Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not
-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014

-All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness.  It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage.  All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors 

-Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine

-Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey)

-Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011
-Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less)

-Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week

-Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs 

-First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened

-Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD.  Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed.  NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it.

-Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned
-Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia
-Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat
-Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged
-7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia

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Hey Guys, 

I found some info online about a law firm that is looking for people to come forward who have incurred movement disorders from psych meds.  I called the number and spoke to the law firm, and I can vouch that they are serious.  They spoke with me for an hour and I am also sending them my medical paperwork.  Be assured that steps forward ARE being taken.  I was so pleasantly surprised at how seriously the law firm took me, and how kind they were.  Here is the information for others who want to call.  This is what I copied and pasted from online, and it includes the phone number to call:

"Have you come down with a movement disorder from psych meds, whether they were prescribed to you on-label OR off-label? Did you come down with permanent or temporary dystonia or dyskinesia or akathisia or myoclonus from psych meds?

Please join me and others who are working with a law firm to hold the pharma companies accountable.
 

Call Grisham and Barnhardt at 434-293-2939. Ask to speak with partner attorneys Tyler or Addison, or with their assistant/paralegal Bethany.

Please, we need ALL the victims to come forward, no matter how long ago this happened to you!"

*I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience
**Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not
-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014

-All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness.  It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage.  All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors 

-Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine

-Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey)

-Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011
-Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less)

-Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week

-Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs 

-First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened

-Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD.  Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed.  NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it.

-Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned
-Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia
-Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat
-Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged
-7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia

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I saw this on social media, so I'm not sure if it counts as "media" or not, but I do think it should have the highest visibility possible.  It's come to my attention that there is a group of people online who have come together and who have contracted the services of a law firm to go after the psych meds that have caused movement disorders.  I personally called the law firm and they were SO kind and SO attentive, and took everything I said very seriously about my movement disorder.

Here is the blurb that is circulating online.  Please read through it and contact the phone number IF you have a medication-induced movement disorder:

"Have you come down with a movement disorder from psych meds, whether they were prescribed to you on-label OR off-label? Did you come down with permanent or temporary dystonia or dyskinesia or akathisia or myoclonus from psych meds?
 

Please join me and others who are working with a law firm to hold the pharma companies accountable.
 

Call Grisham and Barnhardt at 434-293-2939. Ask to speak with partner attorneys Tyler or Addison, or with their assistant/paralegal Bethany.
 

Please, we need ALL the victims to come forward, no matter how long ago this happened to you!"  

*I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience
**Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not
-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014

-All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness.  It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage.  All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors 

-Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine

-Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey)

-Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011
-Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less)

-Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week

-Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs 

-First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened

-Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD.  Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed.  NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it.

-Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned
-Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia
-Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat
-Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged
-7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia

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Mea, I think it is quite a good idea.Ok, but maybe first we should make the text of the petition, what we stand for.If you want, just PM me and we can compile something together.

05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

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Wiggelt, I have this problem that I did not get any movement disorder only mental symptoms. So I can not use it.

05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

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Actually, there IS a class action lawsuit being led by a group of people, and a law firm has agreed to represent if they can get enough plaintiffs!  The lawsuit is for people in the US who have come down with movement disorders from psych meds.  That means if you have akathisia, dystonia, or dyskinesia, or myoclonus, you PLEASE need to call this firm!!  Pasted below is the info that I found online.  I have already called:

 

"Have you come down with a movement disorder from psych meds, whether they were prescribed to you on-label OR off-label? Did you come down with permanent or temporary dystonia or dyskinesia or akathisia or myoclonus from psych meds?

 

Please join me and others who are working through a law firm to hold the pharma companies accountable!!! Me and other victims are joining forces to hold the pharma companies accountable.

 

Call Grisham and Barnhardt at 434-293-2939. Ask to speak with attorneys Tyler or Addison, or with their assistant Bethany. Please, we need ALL the victims to come forward, no matter how long ago this happened to you!"

 

 

Yes I am joining this also, so if you want to participate in a class action suit, we are needing to gather more people to form a group of plaintifs now, so if possible you should call right away, and you can ask to join the facebook group, Tardive Dyskinesia/Dystonia Lawsuit. There are 164 people in that group, but we are currently needing at least 50 people to contact the lawfirm and apply to get this going. So, if you have a movement disorder that you believe is caused by antidepressants, and you want to be part of a lawsuit to sue for this, please take action on this now! Thank you.

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April 22 2016 switched from Venlafaxine XR 75mg to: different brand, Venlafaxine non-extended release 75mg. Been taking Effexor XR 75mg. many years. Tried reducing last year, began having bad side effects. 

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