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thankyou steve. i've just realised i haven't been keeping notes the last couple of days as i've been in such a tizz about everything. will update things now. 

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4/1/2018

7.00 got up, took 2.00 mg prozac. had breakfast. took kids to school. feeling very low after a disturbed nights sleep. 

12.00 had lunch. very depressed. can't stop crying. 

4.00 took children to dentist. trying hard not to cry. feeling very low. 

6.00 made dinner. very depressed and weepy. 

7.00 helped kids with homework. mood lifted a little while doing this. 

8.00 tried to watch tv but very distracted. anxiety levels rising. 

11.15 took  Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg,Vitamin D3 1000 iu,Evening primrose oil 1000mg ,Sage leaf 50mg

mood has been extremely depressed for the last few days. 

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Orangeblossom77

I noticed your mood improved while helping with homework, maybe the distraction?

 

Maybe something similar might help in the day like listening to an audio book perhaps

where you don;t have to do / complete it (like with crafts) or listening to music..

 

I'm also having a bit of a rubbish day, very low in motivation today and picking the kids up later

 

It's nice that helping your kids helped you a bit, I find homework stressful!

 

Kind thoughts 

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it normally stresses me out to but just this once my child actually understood the work they needed to do and got on with it with gusto! i think the sheer relief that i didn't have a battle on my hands for once eased the tension a bit. i will try an audiobook and see if that helps ☺

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Orangeblossom77

Yes it is good when they get on with it themselves. Sometimes feels like they get so much more than we used to,

and I don't understand it. I get them to look online! Hope things go Ok this evening.

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thecowisback

thankyou :) 

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my moods are so erratic right now - i've never known anything like it. i've been really anxious all day with obsessive thoughts then around 2.30 i got some bad news (nothing major) and my anxiety immediately switched to despair. it was like a switch going off in my head. normally my moods vary day by day. 

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does anyone know how i can stop the prozac now if i decide not to carry on? i've been on it for 3weeks. do i need to taper and if so at what rate? i don't think i can cope with the way my mind is since reinstating.

my family and friends keep telling me to stick with it as it takes a few weeks to start working. i started taking it again in the hope i would get some relief from this depression and fear but it's making it a whole lot worse. i feel like i should quit before i do any more damage to my healing and just grit my teeth and let time heal my brain. 

i wish (like everyone else who is going through withdrawal) i knew if recovery is close. i'm so scared that it could be just round the corner and i'm delaying that with the prozac or it may be many more years down the line in which case i've got so much more of this hell ahead of me. 

i'm finding it really hard to cope with the not knowing. if i could just have some sign from my body that i'm getting better - instead it's just getting worse as time goes on. 

 

 

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ChessieCat

Please post your notes from 1st February.

 

I'll ask the other mods for their assistance.

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1/2

7.00 got up, took 1.5 mg prozac. had breakfast. took kids to school. 

11.00 doctors appointment. very high anxiety (always very nervous about seeing the doctor). 

12.00 had lunch. very tearful. felt more and more depressed as the day wore on. 

5.00 cooked dinner. couldn't stop crying. 

tried to watch tv in the evening but couldn't concentrate to went to bed at around 8 pm. didn't sleep but couldn't face seeing anyone or doing anything all evening. 

 

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5/2

7.00 had  breakfast and 2mg prozac. 

8.30 took kids to school. 

9.30 drove to city to an appointment. very high anxiety. ocd thoughts going round and round in my head. hard to concentrate during appointment. very hard to concentrate driving home. blurry vision, feeling panicky. 

12.00 had lunch. still high anxiety. 

2.45 got some bad news. switched from high anxiety to very low mood instantly. low mood lasted the rest of the day. 

5.00 cooked dinner. 

7.00 helped kids with homework. kept fighting back alternating tears and feelings of panic. lots of thoughts going round and round in my head. 

watched tv for the rest of the evening. feeling very angry and tetchy. got really cross because i couldn't find something. feeling bad that i lost my temper so easily. starting to wonder if i shouldn't have upped the dose of prozac a couple of days ago. 

11.30 went to bed but couldn't settle for a long time. kept waking every hour through the night then woke at 4 am with a huge jolt of panic. haven't had this since the first months of withdrawals. 

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Hi TCIB I empathise dearly with you,with your anxiety ,for a few weeks can you try and reduce everything you do that stresses you out and see if symptoms reduce.driving to the city is some feat when you like this ,this stress is accumulating and hitting you later on maybe?

I totally respect you need to live your life but its worth trying ,please find some way to relax.

Take care.

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thecowisback

i can try but there's not a lot i can do about family commitments. i'm just hoping the days getting longer will help a bit.

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7 minutes ago, thecowisback said:

i can try but there's not a lot i can do about family commitments. i'm just hoping the days getting longer will help a bit.

Of course I totally agree but something has to give some were  .your very strong and you don't even notice it,stop judging yourself for the anger and loosing your temper ,I totally relate.of course it needs holding back around your kids.

Leave the room and find a big pillow and scream into it,I did it the other day .

A simple thing like walking home with food shopping turned into me having to do online shopping ,now I love it ha.

Keep finding ways to reduce the burden on you,we are not respecting how ill we are (albeit temporary).

Here's a funny one ,I was upstairs and my short fuse went on about the neighbours  tv being loud.it was my own downstairs ,OMG I said to myself ,gave me chuckle.

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😂😂

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i'm really not sure what to do about taking the prozac tomorrow. i may drop back to 1.5mg for a few days. 

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8 minutes ago, thecowisback said:

i'm really not sure what to do about taking the prozac tomorrow. i may drop back to 1.5mg for a few days. 

 find something soothing ,your getting hit hard ,your still in there .we need to believe this ,dam its tough though.

Im the last person to recommend you about meds but you are only 2 days at this dose ,its hard to know hey .

Hang on for  a mod maybe .

 

 

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Altostrata

Here are all your daily notes since you started reinstatement of Prozac January 14, about 3 weeks ago.

 

On 1/16/2019 at 1:31 AM, thecowisback said:

thankyou jackie 😊

 

does anyone know how long i should stay at 1mg before upping the dose? i'm on day 3 and so far i'm getting a little dizziness, a little nausea, some headaches and an increase in my intrusive thoughts/anxiety. 

 

On 1/18/2019 at 2:42 AM, thecowisback said:

day 5 of 1mg and my anxiety is extremely high today. i was woken at around 4 am with what felt like a million thoughts buzzing round in my head and i'm extremely scared of everything today. so no improvement in symptoms yet at all, will just wait for monday and go up to 2mg. 

 

On 1/19/2019 at 8:26 AM, thecowisback said:

yesterday was non stop depression and crying all day long. today i have felt a bit lighter. my ocd is bad but i'm recognising and dismissing the thoughts which is good

i'm not sure whether to up the dose to 2 mg tomorrow or leave it at 1mg for a few more days.

 

On 1/22/2019 at 12:28 AM, thecowisback said:

so, this is what's happened over the last 24 hours. 

 

monday 21st january

woke at 5 a.m. (had some intrusive thoughts, slept on and off until 7 am.

took 1.5mg of prozac (upped the dose by 0.5mg as one week had gone by since i started it)

had breakfast

8.30 drove kids to school. slightly anxious, intrusive thoughts. 

did housework, cleaned out pets, checked mail online. 

12.00 had lunch. feeling more anxious. 

spent afternoon checking online for success stories after reinstating. got very anxious about having upped the dosage. didn't mention on here that i'd gone up as i wanted to see what the result would be in a few days. 

husband told me off for checking online so much. he pointed out it was my ocd making me check and that i needed to do something else, so went for a long walk. still very anxious. 

3.30 picked kids up from school. kids had had a bad day so i got more anxious. tried to do some reading. 

5.00 cooked dinner. anxiety very high. 

7.00 feeling really tired and have a headache like a tight band around my head and the back of my neck. had a nap on the sofa. 

8.00 got kids ready for bed. anxiety is getting much much worse. 

spent the evening in a state of panic about various things. tried not to check online. kept coming on here to look for success stories. ocd got worse as the evening wore on. irritable with my husband. 

11.00 took thyroxine and amlodipine, magnesium. went to bed but couldn't fall asleep. dozed off after 1 a.m. 

kept waking throughout the night because of nightmares. very vivid dreams. kept seeing strange patterns in my sleep which lingered just after waking. 

after a disturbed and very scary night got up at 7 am

had breakfast. very dizzy and slightly blurry vision. 

haven't had any prozac this morning. very scared to take any more after what happened last night. 

 

not sure what to do now - cut back to 1 mg or stop altogether. i didn't have any problems on 1mg apart from headaches and some dizziness for the first couple of days. could the extra 0.5 mg i took yesterday really have had a bad effect that quickly or did the 1mg i'd taken all week finally kick in? i have no idea but am very scared now. 

 

 

On 1/22/2019 at 2:49 AM, thecowisback said:

i've just taken a 1mg dose but i'm not sure whether to carry on with it. 

just had to drive to the city and i feel really odd. i had to make the journey really slowly as my eyes are still a bit blurry and i feel my concentration is off. i feel sick, my mouth is dry, i have a headache, and my face feels weird - almost as if someone has their hand over it, if that makes any sense - sort of tight and tingly. i don't feel ill but i do feel 'off' and my anxiety is sky high. 

 

 

On 1/23/2019 at 5:28 AM, thecowisback said:

yesterday 

7am got up had breakfast. very panicky.

8.30 took kids to school. feeling very scared. bad headache. took 2 paracetamol.

9.30 drove to city. scared because of blurry vision and feeling like i have a lack of concentration. 

11.00 took 1mg prozac. headache from earlier hasn't shifted. 

12.00 had lunch. high anxiety. 

did some reading and sorted out some bills.

3.30 picked kids up from school. high anxiety. went out for a walk. 

5.00 made dinner. lots of scary thoughts. very tired and got another headache. 

6.30 took kids to scouts. had a nap. very tired and cold. 

8.30 picked up kids. feeling tearful and scared. read until bedtime. 

11.00 took meds and went to bed. fell straight to sleep tonight. 

 

On 1/24/2019 at 5:45 AM, thecowisback said:

wednesday 23rd

got up at 7 am, took 1mg prozac. 

8.30 took kids to school and went to doctors appointment. very anxious because of appointment. 

high anxiety for the rest of the day. 

12.00 had lunch. anxiety getting worse. 

3.30 picked kids up from school. very scared and anxious. 

5.30 tried to cook dinner but was distracted by anxiety and burnt it. had a meltdown! 

very tired in the evening but couldn't nap as anxiety was very bad. really bad ocd thoughts. couldn't talk to family, just wanted to curl up and scream. 

11.00 took meds and went to bed. had trouble getting to sleep. 

 

On 1/25/2019 at 12:11 AM, thecowisback said:

thursday 24th

7 am got up took 1mg prozac

8.30 took kids to school high anxiety

12.45 had lunch anxiety rising even more

5.30 anxiety so bad didn't feel up to making dinner and went to chip shop. 

rest of the evening tried listening to meditation apps and reading. very anxious all night. had trouble falling asleep. 

 

On 1/25/2019 at 11:05 AM, thecowisback said:

Have you been sleeping better in the past week? Overall, do you feel better or worse than you felt before taking 1mg Prozac?

 

sleep has been pretty bad but that's how it's been for the past 15 months or so.

 

Do you feel better or worse after you take 1mg Prozac at 7 a.m.?

 

no difference t all.

 

In your notes, please specify the meds you take at 11 p.m.

 

ok👍

 

 

 

On 1/25/2019 at 11:42 AM, Altostrata said:

As it's been 11 days since you started 1mg Prozac and it does not seem to have any adverse effects, do you want to increase it a bit to 1.5mg? We would need to observe to see what it does. This is how you judge dosage for reinstatement.

 

On 1/27/2019 at 1:16 AM, thecowisback said:

26.01

7 am got up, took 1.5mg prozac. had breakfast. 

12.00 had lunch. went out to the shops. 

3.00 starting to feel a little dizzy as if dehydrated. drunk more water to see if that would help. dizziness was mild but persisted all day. 

6.30 had dinner. very anxious. anxiety had lasted all day but really ramped up around this time. 

watched a couple of films during the evening. very high anxiety. 

11.00 took, levothyroxine, amolodipine. 

12.30 went to bed late as i didn't fell tired, just anxious. got to sleep around 1. 

2.00 am wide awake worrying about things. tried doing the 'cognitive shuffle' excercise which helped get me back to sleep throughout the night but still kept waking up every hour or so. 

 

 

On 1/28/2019 at 3:39 AM, thecowisback said:

27/01

7.00 took 1.5mg prozac. had breakfast. felt very anxious since waking at 4.am. 

12.00 had lunch. went down the shops. anxiety building all afternoon. 

4.30 had an argument with family which set off a panic attack. 

5.30 made dinner. 

anxiety very high all evening. spent most of the evening crying. 

11.00 took levothyroxine amlodipine, magnesium. 

had trouble getting to sleep. 

 

 

On 1/29/2019 at 3:48 AM, thecowisback said:

28/01

got up at 7 after a terrible night's sleep. took 1.5mg prozac. ate breakfast. very dizzy on waking. very anxious before taking prozac. 

8.30 took kids to school. very anxious. 

spent the morning having to make phone calls. very stressed. anxiety building. 

12.00 lunch. still scared. 

all afternoon could feel the anxiety rising. 

5.00 started cooking dinner. tried to distract myself with audio books but anxiety getting worse. 

just after 6 a huge panic attack struck and it didn't really leave all evening. 

10.00 took 

Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg,Vitamin D3 1000 iu,Evening primrose oil 1000mg ,Sage leaf 50mg

went to bed early as still panicking. 

huge huge waves of panic all night. finally nodded off about 6.00 am and got up at 7. 

 

On 1/30/2019 at 3:06 AM, thecowisback said:

29/01

got up at 7. took prozac. very VERY scared and anxious. 

8.30 took kids to school. on the verge of a panic attack by the time i got home. 

spent the day trying to keep busy at home. 

5.00 cooked dinner. very scared and shaking. couldn't eat dinner because of the anxiety. 

spent the evening trying to watch comedies on tv to distract myself. 

11.00 took Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg,Vitamin D3 1000 iu,Evening primrose oil 1000mg ,Sage leaf 50mg

couldn't get to sleep because i was panickin so much. on and off sleep all night. 

 

On 1/31/2019 at 2:19 AM, thecowisback said:

30/1

got up at 7, took 1.5 mg prozac. very anxious. had been awake since 4 am. 

8.30 took kids to school. anxiety still bad

went into town for haircut. anxiety high but bearable. 

1.00 lunch. still anxious. 

5.00 cooked dinner, anxiety lowering a little. 

spent the evening doing homework with kids and watching films. anxiety lessened all evening until around 10 when it started to kick in again. 

11.00 took Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg,Vitamin D3 1000 iu,Evening primrose oil 1000mg ,Sage leaf 50mg

 

On 2/1/2019 at 3:02 AM, thecowisback said:

31/01

7 am got up and took 1.5 mg prozac. slightly anxious. had breakfast

8.30 took kids to school. anxiety rising. 

went shopping. anxiety rising even higher. very bad instrusive thoughts. 

5.00 made dinner. tried to distract my mind by playing music but no luck. 

6.00 close to a panic attack. managed to calm down but very fearful all evening. 

10.30 took meds and went to bed. woke up nearly every hour throughout the night. very tired but very restless. 

 

 

On 2/2/2019 at 2:46 AM, thecowisback said:

1/02 same routine but started off the day feeling low and depressive feelings increased all day. very tearful by evening. couldn't be bothered with anything, just wanted to cry a lot. 

 

 

On 2/4/2019 at 4:00 AM, thecowisback said:

3 weeks taking the tiny dose of prozac now and i feel like my depression is getting a lot worse. could this be because of the prozac? i feel so angry because i never had depression before coming off the meds. sometimes i wonder if i'm depressed because of the menopause and this would have happened despite the meds but i guess i'll never know. i've never felt like this before in my life. i don't want to do anything. i spend my spare time curled up in bed crying. i don't have any interest in anything. if my family phone i have to fake a cheerful mood then once i'm off the phone i go back to crying in a corner. 

i'm in two minds whether to carry on with the small dose of prozac or ditch it now. i know no-one can answer my questions but i really have no idea what to do. i feel like my life is in pieces. i feel like i want to die but i don't really - i just want an end to all these horrible feelings. i thought things would get better as time went on. i'm 23 months out from going off prozac and feel worse than ever. 

 

 

 

On 2/5/2019 at 2:48 AM, thecowisback said:

4/1/2018

7.00 got up, took 2.00 mg prozac. had breakfast. took kids to school. feeling very low after a disturbed nights sleep. 

12.00 had lunch. very depressed. can't stop crying. 

4.00 took children to dentist. trying hard not to cry. feeling very low. 

6.00 made dinner. very depressed and weepy. 

7.00 helped kids with homework. mood lifted a little while doing this. 

8.00 tried to watch tv but very distracted. anxiety levels rising. 

11.15 took  Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg,Vitamin D3 1000 iu,Evening primrose oil 1000mg ,Sage leaf 50mg

mood has been extremely depressed for the last few days. 

 

11 hours ago, thecowisback said:

1/2

7.00 got up, took 1.5 mg prozac. had breakfast. took kids to school. 

11.00 doctors appointment. very high anxiety (always very nervous about seeing the doctor). 

12.00 had lunch. very tearful. felt more and more depressed as the day wore on. 

5.00 cooked dinner. couldn't stop crying. 

tried to watch tv in the evening but couldn't concentrate to went to bed at around 8 pm. didn't sleep but couldn't face seeing anyone or doing anything all evening. 

 

 

11 hours ago, thecowisback said:

5/2

7.00 had  breakfast and 2mg prozac. 

8.30 took kids to school. 

9.30 drove to city to an appointment. very high anxiety. ocd thoughts going round and round in my head. hard to concentrate during appointment. very hard to concentrate driving home. blurry vision, feeling panicky. 

12.00 had lunch. still high anxiety. 

2.45 got some bad news. switched from high anxiety to very low mood instantly. low mood lasted the rest of the day. 

5.00 cooked dinner. 

7.00 helped kids with homework. kept fighting back alternating tears and feelings of panic. lots of thoughts going round and round in my head. 

watched tv for the rest of the evening. feeling very angry and tetchy. got really cross because i couldn't find something. feeling bad that i lost my temper so easily. starting to wonder if i shouldn't have upped the dose of prozac a couple of days ago. 

11.30 went to bed but couldn't settle for a long time. kept waking every hour through the night then woke at 4 am with a huge jolt of panic. haven't had this since the first months of withdrawals. 

 

Do you feel better or worse since January 14, when you reinstated 1mg Prozac?

 

When you feel depressed, what are the thoughts that you are having?

 

Here is what I'm seeing: Your habits of mind continually throw you into feelings of guilt and fear. You are sometimes able to manage this. Taking a drug has kept these thoughts at bay for 20 years.

 

Because you have been relying on the drug, you are exceptionally anxious and impatient about your dosing. You may be expecting more from a reinstatement than it can deliver. It may reduce withdrawal symptoms but it's not going to resolve your habits of mind.

 

Have you ever talked to a therapist about why you feel so guilty and incapable? That to me indicates something from your childhood that's still hanging over your head.

 

You also have withdrawal syndrome from Prozac, including the neuro-emotion waves of panic and anxiety. This must be additionally distressing. Also see

 

Deep emotional pain and crying spells, spontaneous weeping 

 

Health anxiety, hypochondria, and obsession with symptoms

 

Dealing With Emotional Spirals


Easing your way into meditation for a stressed-out nervous system

 

Please do your best to stay calm rather than flipping into habitual catastrophizing and self-blame. We need some more information about what 2mg Prozac does before we can tell if it's helping or hurting. Please continue to post your daily notes.

 

You have been a little irregular in your Prozac dosing. Please take it every day at 7 a.m.

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20 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Here are all your daily notes since you started reinstatement of Prozac January 14, about 3 weeks ago.

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Do you feel better or worse since January 14, when you reinstated 1mg Prozac?   

I feel more depressed, definitely. 

 

When you feel depressed, what are the thoughts that you are having?

Everything in life seems totally overwhelming. i feel like nothing is ever going to get better. i'm tired of the constant panic and scary thoughts. i just want all the thoughts to leave me alone. i just want to relax, just to have one day without being worried or scared. 

 

Here is what I'm seeing: Your habits of mind continually throw you into feelings of guilt and fear. You are sometimes able to manage this. Taking a drug has kept these thoughts at bay for 20 years.

 

Because you have been relying on the drug, you are exceptionally anxious and impatient about your dosing. You may be expecting more from a reinstatement than it can deliver. It may reduce withdrawal symptoms but it's not going to resolve your habits of mind.

 

Have you ever talked to a therapist about why you feel so guilty and incapable? That to me indicates something from your childhood that's still hanging over your head.

i had counselling last year. we worked through a lot of things that i feel guilty about in my past. i've tried to be less self-critical since but once the depression kicks in i just blame myself for everyone elses problems. 

 

You also have withdrawal syndrome from Prozac, including the neuro-emotion waves of panic and anxiety. This must be additionally distressing. Also see

 

Deep emotional pain and crying spells, spontaneous weeping 

 

Health anxiety, hypochondria, and obsession with symptoms

 

Dealing With Emotional Spirals


Easing your way into meditation for a stressed-out nervous system

 

Please do your best to stay calm rather than flipping into habitual catastrophizing and self-blame. We need some more information about what 2mg Prozac does before we can tell if it's helping or hurting. Please continue to post your daily notes.

 

You have been a little irregular in your Prozac dosing. Please take it every day at 7 a.m.

i take it each day at 7 when i get up. should i stay on the 2mg for now? won't that make it harder to come off in the future if i don't get any relief from it? i really don't want to go any higher than 2mg if possible because of the time it will take to taper off it again. if i did quit now would i be able to just stop taking it or will i have to taper off even after this short amount of time?   

 

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It seems to me your feelings of depression are not related to the 2mg Prozac, they're related to your fear that the drug is not going to fix you.

 

The drug may not fix you. While it's difficult, you may need to fix yourself. One thing you need to do is stop these thoughts

 

 

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i feel like nothing is ever going to get better. i'm tired of the constant panic and scary thoughts. i just want all the thoughts to leave me alone.

 

 

by changing the channel, cognitive behavior therapy (CBT), meditation, or other self-care technique. You need to forgive yourself for past mistakes. Finding a therapist to coach you in these techniques may be very helpful.

 

See

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

Shame, guilt, regret, and self-criticism

 

Be sure to read every link you get from the staff.

 

Please continue to take 2mg Prozac at the same time each day and post your daily notes, including your sleep pattern. We still need to see if it's helping.

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ok, thankyou altostrata and chessiecat.xx

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6/02

7 am took 2mg prozac, had breakfast. took kids to school

12.00 had lunch, feeling anxious but not as bad as recent days. 

3.30 collected kids from school. anxiety high. 

5.00 cooked dinner. got distracted by intrusive thoughts and burnt dinner. got angry with myself. 

anxious most of the evening. 

11.30 took  Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg,Vitamin D3 1000 iu,Evening primrose oil 1000mg ,Sage leaf 50mg. went to bed. had a restless night, waking up every hour after 3 am. 

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1 hour ago, thecowisback said:

6/02

7 am took 2mg prozac, had breakfast. took kids to school

12.00 had lunch, feeling anxious but not as bad as recent days. 

3.30 collected kids from school. anxiety high. 

5.00 cooked dinner. got distracted by intrusive thoughts and burnt dinner. got angry with myself. 

anxious most of the evening. 

11.30 took  Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg,Vitamin D3 1000 iu,Evening primrose oil 1000mg ,Sage leaf 50mg. went to bed. had a restless night, waking up every hour after 3 am. 

 

Taking vitamin d at nighttime is a bad idea,  it’s best taken in morning or not at all as it can interfere with sleep a lot, sometimes if I take too much in morning it can stop me sleeping at night 

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ooh thankyou - i'll try switching to morning 😀

 

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Is the sage leaf for anything specific? Just had a quick google and it seems to improve alertness according to this website:https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-504/sage so maybe taking that at night might not be helping with sleep either? 

Vit d can definitely effect sleep too. I’d just try and stick to magnesium at night for now (plus the other meds you need of course) and see if that helps - then after a bit add the vit d back in, then evening primrose and then sage leaf etc, and see if  any of them make a difference? 

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worth a try - i take the sage as it stops my hot flushes in the night. 

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7/02

7.00 got up, took 2mg prozac. had breakfast. 

8.30 took kids to school and ran errands. anxious. 

12.00 had lunch. feeling depressed and tearful. feeling overwhelmed with personal problems. scared about the future. 

3.30 picked kids up. still tearful. 

5.00 cooked dinner. burnt it yet again as my thoughts were elsewhere. got really angry with myself. 

6.50 started feeling very dizzy and got a bad headache. went to lie down to see if it would help. didn't sleep but dizziness passed after an hour or so. 

9.00 watched a film on tv. feeling very depressed and tearful. 

11.00 took  Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg,Vitamin D3 1000 iu,Evening primrose oil 1000mg ,Sage leaf 50mg.  had trouble getting to sleep. woke at 2 am then again at 3 am and never got back to sleep. very restless feeling and couldn't settle. 

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8/02

7.00 finally got up after a rubbish night's sleep. had breakfast and took 2mg prozac. 

8.30 took kids to school. really bad intrusive thoughts. 

11.00 tried to pay some bills online and this started to set off a panic attack. had to abandon the bills and ended up hiding in bed for an hour or so until the panic attack subsided. very high panic all afternoon. skipped lunch. 

3.30 had to force myself out of the house to pick up the kids. didn't want to see or speak to anyone - avoided other parents at the school. 

4.30 drove kids to their friends house.

5.00 still in high panic mode so oldest child cooked dinner for us. managed to eat half. 

7.30 picked up kids. still very anxious. 

tried to settle in the evening but instrusive thoughts were coming thick and fast. managed to watch one tv programme. 

10.30 took  Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg. tried to sleep but kept waking every hour or so. stormy weather outside so kept worrying about the damage the storm was doing to the house. dozed on and off throughout the night. 

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Orangeblossom77

We also have the storms and didn't make it out due to them yesterday as it started hailing.

Hopefully it won't last.

 

Wonder if anything might help you with sleep?

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thecowisback

i'm kind of scared to try anything after the doctor prescribed me an antihistamine and it gave me really bad restless legs. 

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1 hour ago, thecowisback said:

i'm kind of scared to try anything after the doctor prescribed me an antihistamine and it gave me really bad restless legs. 

 

Yes, i noticed this topic on here with some ideas. 

 

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thecowisback

thankyou☺

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9/02

7.00 got up, had breakfast and 2mg prozac. terrible anxiety and ocd. 

9.00 took kids to saturday activities. did some shopping. very, very anxiuos. blurry vision, shaking hands, pouding heart. feel like i can't go on anymore with all the intrusive thoughts i'm getting. 

12.30 picked kids up. trying hard not to cry. didn't even go in to pick them up - waited for them to come out and look for me as i couldn't face talking to anyone. 

3.00 very depressed all afternoon. cried a lot and eventually fell asleep crying. 

4.00 woke up - feeling a little calmer but still very sad. 

5.30 ordered takeaway as couldn't face cooking. 

7.00 watched tv with the family - feeling a lot calmer than i have done for the past few days. still a little tearful.

11.00 took  Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Amlodipine 5mg,

Magnesium citrate 200mg.  had trouble getting to sleep and staying asleep because i'm feeling really hot. 

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Orangeblossom77

Could you maybe get online shopping? I couldn't cope with that day either. It is wonderful. and free delivery

Also maybe some help with running the kids to things and cooking would be good. Do you have a partner or

husband to help with these things? 

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thecowisback

i do online shopping for the weekly shop and just run to the small local supermarkets for top ups. i can manage that but can't deal with huge supermarkets. 

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Aquarius

Sorry you are suffering so much....have read a thread from a lady who was taking her magnesium at night and was having distured sleep she stopped taking it at night and started to sleep better ...i see you take amlopidine which i think us the same as my felopidine ..apart from my 15mg Mirtazapine i take at 8.00 in evening all my other tablets and supplements i take in morning...

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