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i saw the doc and he's given me 10mg tablets and told me to take them for a week then double them up. he said no to liquid and no to capsules as they're too expensive so will have a read now on how to make liquid from tablets.

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thecowisback

it says the tablets are 'film coated'. will they dissolve in water ok? should i crush them or break them up? 

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ChessieCat

Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg

 

Q:  Have you had a blood test lately to see if you need to adjust your dose?

 

EDITED to add:  See https://www.verywellhealth.com/could-you-be-overmedicated-on-thyroid-drugs-3233271

 

 

Tips for tapering off Prozac (fluoxetine)

 

You should be able to dissolve the tablet in water.

 

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thecowisback

i had one a few months ago and it was ok then. they only test once a year at our surgery. 

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powerback

Best of luck TCIB ,by god you deserve peace and stability  .it will come .

I'm claiming one of my best windows today  for ages ,a little hyper tonight but I'm aware of it .

🙏👍.

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thecowisback
On 1/9/2019 at 3:31 AM, JackieDecides said:

 

I'm sorry things have been so hard for you and hope change is coming soon. ☹️

thankyou xxx

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thecowisback
11 minutes ago, powerback said:

Best of luck TCIB ,by god you deserve peace and stability  .it will come .

I'm claiming one of my best windows today  for ages ,a little hyper tonight but I'm aware of it .

🙏👍.

that's really good news!!!! let's hope there are many more to come!! 

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powerback
5 minutes ago, thecowisback said:

that's really good news!!!! let's hope there are many more to come!! 

Im well aware what its like when feeling so Sh*t and others posting windows so I don't mean for that to trigger you.

Its so tough but we keep at it and keep changing that channel when need be .

I've realised how toxic my thinking has been, its withdrawal .we never stop learning .

 

🙏👍 .

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thecowisback

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thecowisback

the last time i saw the doctor about my symptoms he sent me for a thyroid check to rule that out.

i took 1mg last night. i got a headache, some stomach cramps in the night and i'm feeling nauseous this morning so i guess that tiny dose is already kicking in.

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i feel such a failure trying even a tiny bit of prozac again but i've come to the conclusion that i just cannot keep waiting for recovery to come. i've waiting nearly 2 years which most people tell me is a drop in the ocean in the world of recovery, and during that time i've put my family through hell with my ocd and constant mood swings. the thought that i may possibly have many more years to come like this is unbearable.

i've tried cbt, meditiation, counselling, eating well, excercising regularly, magnesium. you name it, i've tried it with very little success. i'll get a day here and there where my mind is a little clearer and i'm able to dismiss my ocd thoughts but i feel like i am wasting my life and messing up the lives of those around me while showing very little in the way of improvement. 

i've been up most of the night tossing and turning and going over and over this in my head but i think this is something i need to do. the last 2 years have passed in a blur of mental pain and self pity. i cannot battle all this alone any more and have to admit that i need help from meds. 

i'm keeping fingers and toes crossed that reinstating will help me, and hopefully at some point in the future when i'm feeling stronger and having got so many other stresses going on my life that i'll be able to taper off properly. 

i hate myself right now for having to do this, but i feel i'm not being fair to my kids. they need a mother around that they can rely on, not someone who spends all their spare time curled up in a ball crying their eyes out. 

 

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thecowisback

i just want to double check i'm doing all this correctly.

i'm putting a 10mg prozac tablet into 10ml of water (it breaks down into fine powder straight away). stirring well.  i'm taking 1ml of the solution then storing the rest in the fridge for the next day. 

if i stay on the pills the doctor is going to up the dose to 20mg pills. 

would i be able to dilute those in 10ml of water too and then take 0.5ml to get a 1mg dose? or is my maths all wrong?

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ChessieCat

I've move the post to your Introduction topic because it is about your own tapering and it will also be easier for your to find to check back on.

You can dissolve the tablet in a greater amount of liquid to make measuring your dose easier.

 

 

10mg tablet in:

 

10mL liquid                        20mL liquid

 

10mg : 10mL                     10mg : 20mL

 

1mg : 1mL                          1mg : 2mL

 

0.5mg : 0.5mL                    0.5mg : 1mL

 

 

20mg tablet in:

 

10mL liquid                        20mL liquid                        40mL liquid

 

20mg : 10mL                      20mg : 20mL                      20mg : 40mL

 

1mg : 0.5mL                       1mg : 1mL                          1mg : 2mL

 

0.5mg : 0.25mL                 0.5mg : 0.5mL                    0.5mg : 1mL

 

 

 

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thecowisback

thankyou🙂

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JackieDecides
14 hours ago, thecowisback said:

i feel such a failure trying even a tiny bit of prozac again but i've come to the conclusion that i just cannot keep waiting for recovery to come. i

 

you are doing the best you can, please don't be so hard on yourself. ❤️

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thankyou jackie 😊

 

does anyone know how long i should stay at 1mg before upping the dose? i'm on day 3 and so far i'm getting a little dizziness, a little nausea, some headaches and an increase in my intrusive thoughts/anxiety. 

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dj2010
3 hours ago, thecowisback said:

thankyou jackie 😊

 

does anyone know how long i should stay at 1mg before upping the dose? i'm on day 3 and so far i'm getting a little dizziness, a little nausea, some headaches and an increase in my intrusive thoughts/anxiety. 

 

Sorry to see you are struggling, personally I think you are making a mistake, from what I’ve seen drugs just do not work the same as they did once someone’s nervous system has been sensitised from withdrawal, if you are expecting relief I do not think it will happen, I think the opposite may happen from what I’ve seen on this site,  I really hope I am wrong though and wish you the best with this

 

take it very slow and stop if things start to get too bad 

 

take care

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that is a big fear that i have 😑

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keepinghope

dj2010 I went back on Prozac 6 months ago and can report its working fine - I had increased anxiety and dizziness/headaches in the first couple of weeks but it’s working fine for me now. I was off it for nearly 3 years and terrified of going back on it because of all the horror stories I’d heard, but it turned out fine and I’m glad I didn’t stick with withdrawal - things were steadily getting worse and worse for me and I had absolutely zero quality of life, with new symptoms cropping up all the time. 

 

Just wanted to give an alternate view, I wish I wasn’t having to rely on drugs but I can sleep now, function and socialise, none of which I was capable of in withdrawal, even 3 years in. 

 

Edited to add: and yes I tried meditation, mindfulness, magnesium, Epsom salt baths, omega 3 etc. I just think I was on the drug too long, and I didn’t have the luxury of not working for 6+ years while I worked my way through WD. Maybe at some point in the future I will taper properly, but I will NEVER cold turkey again, or taper in 6 weeks like my GP advised! 

 

 

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thecowisback

that's reassuring to hear. i really don't think i can 'battle on' any longer when i'm having so many suicidal thoughts. i really am at the end of my tether and with no end in sight in the immediate future i'm going to have to bite the bullet and see what happens. 

 

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keepinghope

I was exactly the same TCIB, don’t beat yourself up for going back to it, you’re doing the best you can for yourself and your family ♥️

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thecowisback

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jonnypeters1234567
1 hour ago, keepinghope said:

I was exactly the same TCIB, don’t beat yourself up for going back to it, you’re doing the best you can for yourself and your family ♥️

Did your nervous system reject it at first but you persisted with ththe medication? As this seems to happen with me the med works for a couple of hours and then my body vibrates, burns and completely rejects the med,

 

i hope ole it works for you the cow is back

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thankyou jonny xx

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ChessieCat
9 hours ago, thecowisback said:

does anyone know how long i should stay at 1mg before upping the dose? i'm on day 3 and so far i'm getting a little dizziness, a little nausea, some headaches and an increase in my intrusive thoughts/anxiety. 

 

It takes about 4 days for a dose to get to full level in the blood and a bit longer for it to register in the brain.

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thecowisback

i guess i should give it about a week then before i go up a dose? 

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day 5 of 1mg and my anxiety is extremely high today. i was woken at around 4 am with what felt like a million thoughts buzzing round in my head and i'm extremely scared of everything today. so no improvement in symptoms yet at all, will just wait for monday and go up to 2mg. 

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thecowisback

if i decide not to go ahead with this how do i stop the 1mg? is it ok to just stop or do i have to taper? 

 

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Tattyapple

I stopped after a reaction I didn’t taper. I had been taking it - couple of weeks as I remember but don’t give up yet unless you really have to 

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thecowisback

i'm just so torn as to whether to carry on. i keep thinking i'm throwing away the last 22 months by taking even a tiny amount. i just don't know what to do any more. if i knew recovery was just round the corner i wouldn't dream of touching the pills again, but the thought of having many more years feeling like this is more than i can bear. 

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thankyou🙂

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yesterday was non stop depression and crying all day long. today i have felt a bit lighter. my ocd is bad but i'm recognising and dismissing the thoughts which is good. 

i'm not sure whether to up the dose to 2 mg tomorrow or leave it at 1mg for a few more days.

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i'm still scared i'm making things worse for my recovery by taking even a tiny amount. i don't want to throw away 2 years of healing. i've been reading baylissa frederick's book. she says most people heal within 2-3 years. i know there are no guarantees to that but it gives me hope that i will start to see an improvement in the coming months. 

does anyone know how credible she is? i tried searching on here for info but i have a hard time finding stuff on the site when i'm on my tablet and my computer is out of action at the moment. she says any new symptoms like depression that weren't there before you took the drug are likely caused by withdrawals. i never had depression before in my life. it only appeared when i stopped the prozac. 

i'm dithering whether to carry on with the 1mg or quit while i'm ahead and stop taking it now. i know i have to make that choice but hearing other people's opinions on this would help a lot. i have no-one to talk to in real life about this as everyone just says 'oh you have bad depression and anxiety - you need to get back on your meds'. 

help!!!!!!!!!!!

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thanks for those. having had a quick read it would appear i am still in withdrawal. my ocd is really bad, far far worse some days than it ever was before meds. i seem to have a full day of anxiety, then a full day of depression, and when i get up in the morning i have no idea which of those days lies ahead of me.

am i hindering healing with the tiny dose of prozac? 

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