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waverlyizzy

I don't know if anyone has experienced this before, but caffeine has a way of bringing me up that's insane to me. Literally last night, I was hopeless and wondering what's the point of continuing to seek an education if I was never going to have the energy and joy I need for it for the rest of my life. This morning, I was still out of energy and my mood was low and I couldn't concentrate on anything, But then I drank a cup of black tea, and I flipped significantly. I was able to pick up a book and read again, and was inspired by it. In class, I was interested in what I was learning and had some ideas of my own. I even jotted down some notes so that I could teach myself something outside of class. I had a sense of humor again. I didn't have to drag myself to get out of a chair or walk somewhere -- I could speedwalk home. This is so insane to me. I don't want to be addicted to coffee or tea or anything, but how the heck is this changing my brain so much?!? Does anyone have any experience with this they could share, or any knowledge?

Prozac (20mg): Oct 2016 - Nov 2016 

Wellbutrin (200mg): Nov 2016 - May 2017 

Abilify (2mg): April 2017 - May 2017 

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i really don't know and didn't have any experience with it, but i found this:
 

 

Black tea has been proven to lower cortisol or the stress hormone in the body. This is due to black tea’s amino acid called L-Theanine, which induces a calming sensation over the body.

Additionally, L-Theanine may also positively impact blood pressure, concentration, the immune system, dopamine levels and GABA formation. Alongside helping in the process of regulating stress levels, black tea also lowers the amount of blood platelet activation in the body which decreases the chance of developing a blood clot or even experiencing a heart attack.

so i'm definitely going to try it. i've never used black tea before.
i'm so glad that it had a good effect on you.

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I read your title and it instantly shocked me because I was perplexed by this myself.

 

 

I don't know what to make up from this but I think it's really important.

 

How come, when I'm withdrawing, moody and feeling depressed, I'll take a cup of coffee and INSTANTLY a flip switches in my brain.

Suddenly, the depression, dark thoughts disappear for an hour or so.

 

I think it says ALOT about our brain's current chemical imbalances.

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ShakeyJerr

I think everyone on SA who has been here for a while would precaution you to be extremely careful with using anything with caffeine in it. That's because high anxiety is a very common symptom for people in AD withdrawal, and caffeine generally makes it worse.

 

So tread very carefully.

 

Now yes, black tea does have theanine in it (and more than green tea does). I use decaf black tea to help calm me.

 

There is about 20mg of theanine in a well-steeped cup of decaf black tea.

 

Also - theanine can turn on you if you are not careful. Search the forum for more on theanine; there are plenty of threads that mention it.

 

I know for me that when I tried the common 200mg capsule of theanine, it made me feel horrible, sort of ramped up, yet like I was powering down both at the same time. So what I do now is take the 200mg capsule and open it and split it into two doses. Sometimes I will add a dose to a cup of decaf black tea or chamomile tea, sometimes just in a cup of water. And I sip it for a while, not drink it down all at once. I do appear to be getting some relief from it. Not loads, but some.

 

Anyway - please do be careful with caffeine.

 

SJ

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History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

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ProzacWasCreatedBySatan1

Caffeine has a good effect on me too. I could never drink it pre withdrawal either which is weird. I also feel much better when I burp. I get major relief, caffeine makes me burp more which makes me feel good. Idk what to think of it either.

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A big ole glass of iced black tea has completely launched me out of depression on several occasions. 

I save it for my last ditch solution when I am down and suicidal.

Dont want to over use it.

This is the best of my recollection.

20 mg Prozac 3-4 days per week until May 2018.

Beginning May 15 I began to drop doses. 

I dropped 1 dose per week for the next 4 weeks.

It was not systematic at all. I don't have which days I took what.

so the week of May 13 I took 4 doses, which was pretty normal for me.

Then the week of May 20 I took 3 doses 20 mg.

The week of May 27 I took 3 doses 20 mg.

The 1st week in June l took 2 doses 20 mg.

The week of June 10, 2018 was my last dose 20 mg.

I had been on Prozac only. No other medications.

 

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People react differently to caffeine but I find that strong black coffee lifts my mood a bit - especially in the morning. I drink about three large cups a day of it and it doesn't make my symptoms worse at all.

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i thought i was the only one who find coffee not harmful but helpful. I gave up coffee for a few weeks on two occasions in an effort to ease my anxiety and to sleep longer. it was in the first year of wd but it did not help at all. i actually felt worse with even less energy, more sleepy but with no more sleep. i tried to get rid of that addiction because i thought that coffee might interfere with my healing but it was not giving the results i was hoping.

 

i take one coffee in the morning and it makes me feel better instantly. interesting is that few days ago i run out of coffee and did not have a proper one in the morning. that afternoon i was getting depressed more than usual. i had a cup and i actually felt better.

 

it could be the coincidence since lately i have been having shorter and milder waves. i am just happy that i can drink it and feel fine.

3/2012 - sertralin 50 mg, no major side effects

1/2014 - ct sertralin 50 mg (tappered 3 weeks as doctor ordered)

7/2014 - back to sertalin 50 mg, no issues

4/2016 - ct sertralin 50 mg (tappered 3 weeks, my decision)

12/2016 - back to sertalin, major side effects from the first pill and the begginning of hell

2/2017 - mirtazepine 15 mg added for insomnia

6/2017 - stopped sertralin (2 months tapper)

9/2017 - stopped mirtazepine (3 weeks taper)

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I feel better with a cuppa too. I'm chronically tired though, so maybe that's why it helps. I usually have two in the morning and sometimes a third (like now, I'm sipping as I type. No more though or it affects my sleep, and only in the morning. If/when I have an anxious phase I can't take it though as it makes me even more anxious.

 

 

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

 

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Hi, the odd thing for me is that I can get rid of the early morning anxiety at this point by going to a nearby restaurant and doing a devotional with a cup of coffee.  

It is a stimulant but nonetheless gets rid of the anxiety.

Fighting fire with fire?🤔

Anyway, whatever works, no matter how crazy and illogical it may seem. 

That's one lesson I have learned from this wild journey!

Big windows to all.

This is the best of my recollection.

20 mg Prozac 3-4 days per week until May 2018.

Beginning May 15 I began to drop doses. 

I dropped 1 dose per week for the next 4 weeks.

It was not systematic at all. I don't have which days I took what.

so the week of May 13 I took 4 doses, which was pretty normal for me.

Then the week of May 20 I took 3 doses 20 mg.

The week of May 27 I took 3 doses 20 mg.

The 1st week in June l took 2 doses 20 mg.

The week of June 10, 2018 was my last dose 20 mg.

I had been on Prozac only. No other medications.

 

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EmergingFromTheVoid

I always drink two big cups of coffee daily (one around noon, and one around supper time) and they help my mind focus -- I feel less fatigue, and I'm more alert after having a cup of coffee. It might not be be right for everyone, but coffee and I are fast friends. 😉

Antidepressants: On ADs for approx. 8 years. 30 mg/day of Escitalopram w/ Wellbutrin (unsure of dosage), for several years. 5 years ago I tapered off Wellbutrin. 3 years ago I tapered to 20 mg/day of Escitalopram. I started to taper the Escitalopram again -- cut my dose to 10 mg/day on Oct. 21st, 2019 . Cut to 5 mg/day on Nov. 9th, 2019. Cut to 2.5 mg/day on Nov. 25th, 2019. Cut to 0 mg/day on Dec. 12th, 2019 -- AD Free! 🙂

 

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