Mentor DaBro Posted November 17, 2020 Mentor Share Posted November 17, 2020 @pug Thanks for posting this. I’m 26 months past a FT off Zoloft (was on 25-50mg for 2 years). At 18 months I thought I was close to being done as the nausea and a number of physical symptoms were subsiding, unfortunately at 22 months I started to get Tardive Dyskinesia and Akasthesia and tiredness which I’m hoping will pass. i can’t believe how awful this process has been. I’ve lost my job but not my family or sanity. I continue to hope for some semblance of normality and your story gives me hope as the symptoms and timelines seem very similar. Can you tell me, did you get strange tickling and clicking popping sensations in your head. One thing I’ve found is that these have persisted for 2 years but the sensations have moved around from the centre to the side to the top and more recently the front of my head. I take it as a positive that as the sensations move, my symptoms change and I wonder if it’s some kind of neurological resetting going on? Thanks again for posting and enjoy your new freedom. 50 mg Sertraline Nov 2016 to Dec 2016 100 mg Sertraline Jan - March 2017 50 mg Sertraline April - June 2017 25 mg Sertraline July 2017 - Sept 2018 12.5 mg Sertraline Oct 2018 0 mg Nov 1 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa5000 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 11:28 PM, pug said: Hello Everyone, I just dropped by to say that I am still doing well and getting closer and closer to complete recovery. I am approaching my 6 year anniversary later this month and I will come back and give an update on how I am doing and answer any questions that anyone still has. In brief, I am not quite done but I am better than ever and life is good; and I firmly believe that it will be the same for you as well even if it does not feel like it now. Time can do amazing things and my recovery is a testament to that. All my best to all of you. pug WOW Pug! That is great news! Thank you for coming back and telling us! 2019 2.1 mg amitriptyline ,15th july 2.1 mg, 22-7 2.09 mg, 29-7 2.08 mg, 5-8 2.09 mg , 7-8 2.1 mg . 2020 Holding at 2.1 mg 2019 125 mg lyrica, 15th july 124,5 mg, 22-7 124 mg, 29-7 123,5 mg, 4-8 124 mg 2020 holding at 124 mg 2015 january building up my medication to 450 mg lyrica and 50 mg amitriptyline for face ache after a rootcanal treatment at the dentist. 2016 february start tapering lyrica from 450 mg to 200 mg 2016 october tapered 25 mg amitriptyline to 25 mg 2017 tapered lyrica from 200 mg to 100 mg 2017 september tapered my last tablet of 25 mg amitriptyline to zero (horrible muscle pain started) 2018 february tapered lyrica from 100 mg to 75 mg (my muscle pain got worse and I have a lot of nervepain in my arms and legs, sometimes all over musclepain and nerve pain and burning pain) 2018 may reinstated 25 mg lyrica. My current dose is 100 mg lyrica. My pain is still very bad but a little less intense, my mood improved. 2018 since 22th may updose amitriptyline. 9 beads. 2018 june updosing lyrica. 2018 16 th june 125 mg lyrica and 9 beads amitriptyline ( 2mg) Now I'm doing a long hold. I can't taper anymore. Too much pain. I hope to stabilize and improve while holding. I'm trying graded activity to get rid of my pain. 2019 1 jan. Lyrica 125 mg (holding) 2019 1 jan. Amitriptyline tapering from 9 beads to 8 beads (1 jan. 2019), 8,5 beads (5 jan 19), 9 beads (16 jan 19) tapper attempt failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenlife Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 @pug Hey! It’s been years since you’ve write this! And you may not even see that I commented. Lol, but worth a shot. You mentioned body pain and upper arm pain. I am having that said bad and it’s making things worst for me. Haha have been concerned I have a disease!!! Age 14-24 Celexa. Stopped Celexa in May age 24, after a 1 year long taper done by myself Age 24-28 Back on Celexa in September Age 24 until Age 28, May, stopped Celexa after another 1 year long taper by myself. Age 29. November- started Celexa 1 month after giving birth Age 31 May- stopped Celexa after 1 year long taper. Age 34 April- started Celexa after shots of steroids in my back. Age 35 June- stopped Celexa semi cold turkey Age 35 September- started Lexapro 15mg Age 36 November 5th- went down to 12.5mg for a week, then 10mg. Age 37 December 5th- went down to 7.5mg for a week, then 5mg. January 22nd- 0mg I am taking around 800mg of Magnesium Glycinate, 500mg of Magnesium L-Threonate, Vitamin D 2,000, Tumeric, Vital Biome Gut Microbiome Support, 99mg Potassium, 1,333mcg Methylfolate, ProBio 5. I also take Juice Plus supplements. Green tea every AM Rarely gluten, dairy, added sugars. No alcohol or drug use. Organic, whole foods, active lifestyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutfael Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Thanks I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iman Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Hey there Pug, 😊🌹 I liken you to a light coming from the other side guiding us through the labyrinth of a pitch balck tunnel we're currently in. I read every single post u put and the others who saught ur help and support and just feel amazed at how empathetic and caring u've been in patiently responding to every single post the sufferers put in the hope of lightening their burden and getting to know what awaits them once the jump after zero mg is made. I just can't find the right terms to thank you for all this light u're shedding into our dark tunnels. My symptoms are almost like anyone else's but the most disturbing, persistent and intolerable of all is the "HYPNIC JERKS" and body startles right at the moment i'm about to eneter the dream land, so intense and brutal that I immediately get woken up with my heart racing and upon my each try to put myself to sleep this happens mercilessly. Did u experience the same thing or do anything especial to soften it? Does it ever go away or become less intense? I can bear with the rest of mt symptoms no matter how harsh they are, however this specific symptom is taking the much needed sleep away from me and leaving me vulnerable to my other symtoms. Thanks a billion in advance for ur enlightenment and insight. 🙏🙏🌷🌹 -2015 september zoloft (20 mg updosed to 125) plus clonazepam for anxiety and panic attacks 2016 Jan replaced clonazepam with chlorodiazpoxide 20 mg -2016 April cold turkeyed both after a urinary retention surgery with no withdrawal symptom at all -2018 Jan perscribed Nortriptyline 10 mg for vestibular vertigo -2018 Feb due to the horrible side effects which my psychiatrist took for depression and anxiety, Nortriptyline began to be updosed to reach 100 in June -2018 Oct noticed I wasexperiencing no pleasure in life and decided to taper(zombie-style kind of life)Tapered to fast to reach 50 mg in 2019 Feb -Terrible withdrawal symtoms began to creep up, had to updose to 75 in June 2019 -Began to make changes in diet and lifestyle and tapered again to reach 30 by 2020 Jan -(using Brassmonkey method from here on)By May 2020 reached 22.5 when my whole taper process hit the wall due to infection to God-damned Covid 19. Late Sep 2020 restarted my taper 16 mg in Jan 2021, Jan 2021 to Feb down from 16mg to 14.5mg,Feb to March 13mg,March to July had to hold on 13mg due to being sold counterfeit drugs, took me a while to find out and get a new batch and get back on track again,July to August 11.5 mg,August to Sep 10.5 mg,Sep to Oct 9.5 mg, Jan 2022 started the water solution Nori, had to hold for a few months due to the horrible side effects of Covid shots, restarted taper on June 2022, March 2023(now) 1.8 mg (deem myself 60 to 70 percent recovered and functional) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iman Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 @pug Hey there Pug, 😊🌹 I liken you to a light coming from the other side guiding us through the labyrinth of a pitch balck tunnel we're currently in. I read every single post u put and the others who saught ur help and support and just feel amazed at how empathetic and caring u've been in patiently responding to every single post the sufferers put in the hope of lightening their burden and getting to know what awaits them once the jump after zero mg is made. I just can't find the right terms to thank you for all this light u're shedding into our dark tunnels. My symptoms are almost like anyone else's but the most disturbing, persistent and intolerable of all is the "HYPNIC JERKS" and body startles right at the moment i'm about to eneter the dream land, so intense and brutal that I immediately get woken up with my heart racing and upon my each try to put myself to sleep this happens mercilessly. Did u experience the same thing or do anything especial to soften it? Does it ever go away or become less intense? I can bear with the rest of mt symptoms no matter how harsh they are, however this specific symptom is taking the much needed sleep away from me and leaving me vulnerable to my other symtoms. Thanks a billion in advance for ur enlightenment and insight. 🙏🙏🌷🌹 -2015 september zoloft (20 mg updosed to 125) plus clonazepam for anxiety and panic attacks 2016 Jan replaced clonazepam with chlorodiazpoxide 20 mg -2016 April cold turkeyed both after a urinary retention surgery with no withdrawal symptom at all -2018 Jan perscribed Nortriptyline 10 mg for vestibular vertigo -2018 Feb due to the horrible side effects which my psychiatrist took for depression and anxiety, Nortriptyline began to be updosed to reach 100 in June -2018 Oct noticed I wasexperiencing no pleasure in life and decided to taper(zombie-style kind of life)Tapered to fast to reach 50 mg in 2019 Feb -Terrible withdrawal symtoms began to creep up, had to updose to 75 in June 2019 -Began to make changes in diet and lifestyle and tapered again to reach 30 by 2020 Jan -(using Brassmonkey method from here on)By May 2020 reached 22.5 when my whole taper process hit the wall due to infection to God-damned Covid 19. Late Sep 2020 restarted my taper 16 mg in Jan 2021, Jan 2021 to Feb down from 16mg to 14.5mg,Feb to March 13mg,March to July had to hold on 13mg due to being sold counterfeit drugs, took me a while to find out and get a new batch and get back on track again,July to August 11.5 mg,August to Sep 10.5 mg,Sep to Oct 9.5 mg, Jan 2022 started the water solution Nori, had to hold for a few months due to the horrible side effects of Covid shots, restarted taper on June 2022, March 2023(now) 1.8 mg (deem myself 60 to 70 percent recovered and functional) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychologicalSafe15 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 @Mende did your vivid dreams vanished? 2017 october--2018 march->(6 month) fluoxetine 20,30 mg-->cold turkey= after 2 month semen leakage 2018 july---2018 Aug-->(24 days) fluoxetine 20 mg --> cold turkey = vivid dreams begin 2018 december 2019 Jan-->(1 month) Amitriptyline 25--> cold turkey --------++++--horror of drugs begins. Taking one after another and cold turkey-------+++------------------ 2019 May--2019 May--> (12 days) Lexapro cold turkey 2019 May--2019 august -->(3 month)Cobazam 10 mg +amitriptyline 25 mg --> clobazam cold turkey ----2019 october ---> went cold turkey amitriptyline 25 mg. 2019 october--2020 Jan -->(3 months) duloxetine cymbalta 30mg --->cold turkey 2020 jan-2020 Apr--> (3 months) paroxetine 25 mg --> Cold turkey 2020 July--2021 Jan--> (6 months) amitriptyline 50 mg ,75 mg,100 mg ,125 mg -> cold turkey 2021 jan--2021 May--> (4 months) imipramine 75 mg -->cold turkey 2021 may-2021 Aug--> (3 months) nortriptyline 25 mg --> cold turkey== still semen leakage and vivid dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parisien Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Hello @pug how are you? When you stopped taking all medications, did you experience premature ejaculation? Or a decrease in the size of your sex? Is it okay if so? Mental fatigue and insomnia have apparently settled for you, it gives hope, I think you have to take the days one after the other. Some days I'm defeatist Hello everyone, I was on seroplex 10mg in October 2019 for over a year and then on brintellix from March to September for maybe 8 months. I made several attempts to stop abruptly then I resumed the treatment of brintellix recently for a few weeks because it was too difficult to stop. Symptom when stopped: premature ejaculation, ejaculation with less orgasm. Severe insomnia, transient headaches, sensitivity to noise and light. Last intake of brintellix 5mg: Saturday, September 11, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry1983 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 5/30/2017 at 4:03 AM, pug said: I now eat anything that I choose although I eat as healthily as possible because I value life so much now and I want to live as long as possible; I exercise regularly and it feels wonderful; I enjoy caffeinated drinks including regular tea and coffee which I had given up for many months; I also drink wine and beer a couple times a week if I choose to and enjoy it. I am in the best shape since high school, and have lost 75 pounds (on purpose). Life is good again and just the simple things are more than enough to bring joy and happiness. Congrats such an inspiration! do you feel better off the AD in general? Or do you just feel better that the WD nightmare is over 🤷♂️ I truly can’t remember from 2012 to 2017 but I tried Zoloft , lexapro, cymbalta and pristiq 2017-Nov 2021 40mg Prozac fast taper Prozac for 6 weeks ended nov 2021 at docs orders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlo Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 5/29/2017 at 1:03 PM, pug said: Yes, it will feel like a miracle when it happens for you; and it will happen for you, it is just a matter of time. I want to get that out there first thing; it is my belief that we will all heal in time; it has happened for me and is continuing to happen and it will happen for you. Am I completely 100% done healing? No. Am I so, so much better? Oh yes! Now for some basics: Male, mid 50s, took zoloft for over 20 year, quit cold turkey 3.5 years ago, was off 5 months, thought I was relapsing, so started prozac for 3.5 months and then quit that cold turkey. Then I found S.A. and discovered what I was dealing with was not a relapse but withdrawal (and recovery). So yes, I did everything completely wrong and more than once! I am proof that given time we can heal. I currently just celebrated 30 months of being drug free. Now, how to begin to describe the inhumane torture that I have endured until very recently; not sure but I will try. I have gone through both the windows and waves pattern and the continuous misery pattern. I was one of those that suffered a great deal after quitting, but really got slammed at about 6 months off. At 1 year I was barely functioning; at 1.5 years I was still miserable, and at 2 years off I was wondering if I was doomed to endless suffering with no end. But now as I have hit the 2.5 year mark I feel as if I have turned the corner. Windows and waves general comprised the first year and then it became continuous misery for pretty much the next 6 to 12 months or more; and then back to windows and waves. My last serious wave was in months 25-26 and now finally what feels like solid progress the last month or so. I am hesitant to list symptoms because I know how much it use to scare me to read what others were going through; but on the other hand it really helped when a new symptom would start, because I knew it was part of the recovery process and not some disease or sickness, and most of these are gone or have become minimal although they lasted for months or years. And just because I experienced them does not mean that you will, we all have a very individual road to recovery; so here they are in no specific order: Dark depression, anxiety, paranoia, obsessive compulsive, panic attacks, intrusive/obsessive thoughts that tortured me, hopelessness, irrational thinking, suicidal thoughts, brain zaps, intense organic fear, severe inner-body tension that felt like my whole insides were clamped up, sexual dysfunction, severe tension, tremors and pain in the back of my legs and calves, terrible shoulder and upper arm pain, mania, extreme bloating and stomach pain, nausea, dizziness, vertigo, feeling like my brain was on fire, feeling like a part of my brain was missing, feeling like a bomb had gone off in my head, floating head feeling, super-hot face, body temperature regulation problems – being super-hot or cold, constipation, dehydration, lack of appetite and weight loss, feeling dead, anhedonia, akathisia, mood swings, insomnia, terrible brain fog and inability to think clearly, sensitive vision and hearing, inching and burning skin, cold like symptoms, head congestion, phantom smells, constant tinnitus, severe fatigue and exhaustion, health anxiety, I could not read, listen to music, or meditate, heart palpitations, random traveling aching and stabbing pain throughout my body, headaches, and so many other symptoms that I can’t remember. The torture, pain, misery, suffering and utter despair was never ending…until it did finally start to end for me and it will for you too. Did anything help me along the way? I tried many things; acupuncture, vitamins and supplements, alpha-stim, gluten free diet, no sugar diet, no caffeine, no alcohol, and anything else I could do to try and feel better. Did it work? In a sense it all worked because it kept me focused on recovery and gave me hope when I had none, and the possibility that I might feel better. But time passing has been the real healing agent; although that was the last thing I wanted to hear when I was suffering so intensely. I did find that mindfulness, breathing exercises and physical exercise helped when all else failed and I was so truly desperate. Many hours were spent just trying to pay attention to my breath going in and out; and I still use this practice as a relaxation method. It also helped me greatly to visit this website daily as well as Benzo-Buddies. I read success stories for hours at a time, read the Bloom in Wellness facebook page each day and anything by Baylissa Frederick and also Don Killian. So, what remains for me? I still have tinnitus (although it has gotten much better over the last month), stomach bloating and pain on occassion, nerve pain, some brain zaps at night, fatigue and tiredness, and sleep issues. If I had to put some percentages on where I am at now I would say physically I am at about 85-90% healed and mentally/emotionally at 90-95% healed. I now eat anything that I choose although I eat as healthily as possible because I value life so much now and I want to live as long as possible; I exercise regularly and it feels wonderful; I enjoy caffeinated drinks including regular tea and coffee which I had given up for many months; I also drink wine and beer a couple times a week if I choose to and enjoy it. I am in the best shape since high school, and have lost 75 pounds (on purpose). Life is good again and just the simple things are more than enough to bring joy and happiness. So that is my story and I hope it will encourage you as you read it that you will recover and become yourself again. I remember reading similar statements in success stories and thinking, “Yea, right, that is easy for you to say, you are not suffering through this terrible hell right now!” And maybe you are thinking the same thing as I did, but please listen to my words; you will make it, you will recover, you will feel better, and you will join me in loving life once again; just please don’t give up or give in and keep going! As I sit here with a cup of coffee and contemplate what I have been through the last several years, it all seems so strange and foreign. Success stories promised that I would make it to recovery, and they were right, so now it is my turn to tell you that you will make it, “You will make it!”. Wishing everyone here all the best and a quick recovery. Please let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to try and help. All my love. Pug Thank you @pug i am suffering a really bad wave today with fear and panic, I can't seem to shake it. All I can do is cry cry cry and pray. I cannot relax. Your words are very encouraging. Hugs~ Chlo 1 Chlo❤ •Celexa 40mg 1999-2021•COVID August 2021•Celexa stopped working•Zoloft 100mg Sept21'-Oct21'•Zoloft did not work •Lexapro 10mg Oct21'-Nov21' •Lexapro did not work •Lexapro 5mg Nov21'-1/17/22 switched to Lexapro liquid form 5mg 1/18/22•4.75mg 1/19•4.5mg 1/25•4.25mg 2/1•4.0mg 2/8 •3.75mg 3/28•3.5mg 5/23 •3.25mg 5/30•3.0mg 6/19 •2.75mg6/26•2.50mg7/10•2.45mg 7/18•2.40mg 7/25• 2.35mg 8/1•2.33mg8/26•2.27mg9/15•2.21mg 9/23•2.16mg 9/30•2.10mg 10/14•2.04mg 10/24•1.99mg 11/18•1.95mg 1/02/23•1.90mg 1/09•1.80mg 1/27•1.75mg 2/21•1.70mg3/6•1.65mg3/14•1.60mg4/07•1.52mg4/30•1.48mg5/07•1.40mg6/08•1.36mg6/17•1.32mg6/27•1.28mg7/17•1.20mg8/18•1.15mg9/13•Mirtazapine15mg pm Nov21'current•Omeprazol.25mg•off Omeprazol as of 7/22/23 D3K2•MagnesiumGlycinate•C• Omega3•Probiotic•Bioidentical I don't know much, but 3 things I do. There is a God. His word is true. Stay close to Him and He will bring you through. Amen🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaceandlove Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 3/30/2020 at 9:09 PM, Rozon1 said: Thanks @pug! For the response. Gives me encouragement. One last question for you! Did it just feel like your muscles weren’t working properly when you tried “pushing”. That’s what my constipation feels like. hey I have the same problem. has your constapation gone away yet? @Rozon1 April 2022- Only 1 celxa pill 10mg had an adverse reaction & never took anymore again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Hi @pug, how are you doing now? I’m glad to hear you’re well. You mentioned akathisa, dp/dr, anhedonia, sexual dysfunction in your description. I also have experienced these things as a result of adverse reaction or withdrawl. How would you describe what akathisa and dp/dr felt like to you? Aug 2020 - Feb 2022 on and off Lexapro 5 and 10mg, Rapid taper Nov 2021 - May 2022 on off Wellbutrin 100mg, 150mg, 75mg CT clindamycin cycle and also Plan B bc 1x Fall 2020- June 2022 - Xanax .5 PRN usually 4x a week, CT June 2022 - Z pack, Buspar 7.5 3 days September 20-24th - low tryptophan diet and 20-30g beef gelatin powder Oct 3- 16 - Xanax .5 for sleep each pm, 1 mg Ativan in ER, .25 Xanax —> .125–>0 Oct 14-17Trazadone 50/75, Lunesta 3mg Oct 24- start Belsomra, 4 days to20mg Nov 3-5 10mg Belsomra and 300mg Gabapentin Oct 13-Dec 1 Buspar 7.5 2x/day rapid taper over 2 weeks due to ADR Recent: Belsomra 20mg since 10/23/2022 to 15mg mid December for 2 nights —> 20mg —> 15 mg since 12/22/2022 —>14 mg compounded 02/11/2023 —> 15 mg 2/13 —> 10mg 2/22 —> 5mg 3/1 —> 0mg 3/8/2023 Current: Propanolol 20mg AM, 10mg 4pm, 20mg PM since 11/30/2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experiment1996 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 11/13/2020 at 11:28 PM, pug said: Hello Everyone, I just dropped by to say that I am still doing well and getting closer and closer to complete recovery. I am approaching my 6 year anniversary later this month and I will come back and give an update on how I am doing and answer any questions that anyone still has. In brief, I am not quite done but I am better than ever and life is good; and I firmly believe that it will be the same for you as well even if it does not feel like it now. Time can do amazing things and my recovery is a testament to that. All my best to all of you. pug At which month were you 100 % healed ? Can you give an update ? 26, male.Consumption from age 13 - 22. Month 40 currently.Reductions in symptoms at month 4, 6, 18 and 32.Month 1 - 18 -> TERRORMonth 18 - 32 -> PAINFULMonth 32 - now -> UnpleasantCurrent symptoms: Social anxiety, brain fog, anhedonia, fatigue, low energy, low motivation, low libido, no morning wood, weak bladder and urine stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorias Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 5/29/2017 at 12:03 PM, pug said: Yes, it will feel like a miracle when it happens for you; and it will happen for you, it is just a matter of time. I want to get that out there first thing; it is my belief that we will all heal in time; it has happened for me and is continuing to happen and it will happen for you. Am I completely 100% done healing? No. Am I so, so much better? Oh yes! Now for some basics: Male, mid 50s, took zoloft for over 20 year, quit cold turkey 3.5 years ago, was off 5 months, thought I was relapsing, so started prozac for 3.5 months and then quit that cold turkey. Then I found S.A. and discovered what I was dealing with was not a relapse but withdrawal (and recovery). So yes, I did everything completely wrong and more than once! I am proof that given time we can heal. I currently just celebrated 30 months of being drug free. Now, how to begin to describe the inhumane torture that I have endured until very recently; not sure but I will try. I have gone through both the windows and waves pattern and the continuous misery pattern. I was one of those that suffered a great deal after quitting, but really got slammed at about 6 months off. At 1 year I was barely functioning; at 1.5 years I was still miserable, and at 2 years off I was wondering if I was doomed to endless suffering with no end. But now as I have hit the 2.5 year mark I feel as if I have turned the corner. Windows and waves general comprised the first year and then it became continuous misery for pretty much the next 6 to 12 months or more; and then back to windows and waves. My last serious wave was in months 25-26 and now finally what feels like solid progress the last month or so. I am hesitant to list symptoms because I know how much it use to scare me to read what others were going through; but on the other hand it really helped when a new symptom would start, because I knew it was part of the recovery process and not some disease or sickness, and most of these are gone or have become minimal although they lasted for months or years. And just because I experienced them does not mean that you will, we all have a very individual road to recovery; so here they are in no specific order: Dark depression, anxiety, paranoia, obsessive compulsive, panic attacks, intrusive/obsessive thoughts that tortured me, hopelessness, irrational thinking, suicidal thoughts, brain zaps, intense organic fear, severe inner-body tension that felt like my whole insides were clamped up, sexual dysfunction, severe tension, tremors and pain in the back of my legs and calves, terrible shoulder and upper arm pain, mania, extreme bloating and stomach pain, nausea, dizziness, vertigo, feeling like my brain was on fire, feeling like a part of my brain was missing, feeling like a bomb had gone off in my head, floating head feeling, super-hot face, body temperature regulation problems – being super-hot or cold, constipation, dehydration, lack of appetite and weight loss, feeling dead, anhedonia, akathisia, mood swings, insomnia, terrible brain fog and inability to think clearly, sensitive vision and hearing, inching and burning skin, cold like symptoms, head congestion, phantom smells, constant tinnitus, severe fatigue and exhaustion, health anxiety, I could not read, listen to music, or meditate, heart palpitations, random traveling aching and stabbing pain throughout my body, headaches, and so many other symptoms that I can’t remember. The torture, pain, misery, suffering and utter despair was never ending…until it did finally start to end for me and it will for you too. Did anything help me along the way? I tried many things; acupuncture, vitamins and supplements, alpha-stim, gluten free diet, no sugar diet, no caffeine, no alcohol, and anything else I could do to try and feel better. Did it work? In a sense it all worked because it kept me focused on recovery and gave me hope when I had none, and the possibility that I might feel better. But time passing has been the real healing agent; although that was the last thing I wanted to hear when I was suffering so intensely. I did find that mindfulness, breathing exercises and physical exercise helped when all else failed and I was so truly desperate. Many hours were spent just trying to pay attention to my breath going in and out; and I still use this practice as a relaxation method. It also helped me greatly to visit this website daily as well as Benzo-Buddies. I read success stories for hours at a time, read the Bloom in Wellness facebook page each day and anything by Baylissa Frederick and also Don Killian. So, what remains for me? I still have tinnitus (although it has gotten much better over the last month), stomach bloating and pain on occassion, nerve pain, some brain zaps at night, fatigue and tiredness, and sleep issues. If I had to put some percentages on where I am at now I would say physically I am at about 85-90% healed and mentally/emotionally at 90-95% healed. I now eat anything that I choose although I eat as healthily as possible because I value life so much now and I want to live as long as possible; I exercise regularly and it feels wonderful; I enjoy caffeinated drinks including regular tea and coffee which I had given up for many months; I also drink wine and beer a couple times a week if I choose to and enjoy it. I am in the best shape since high school, and have lost 75 pounds (on purpose). Life is good again and just the simple things are more than enough to bring joy and happiness. So that is my story and I hope it will encourage you as you read it that you will recover and become yourself again. I remember reading similar statements in success stories and thinking, “Yea, right, that is easy for you to say, you are not suffering through this terrible hell right now!” And maybe you are thinking the same thing as I did, but please listen to my words; you will make it, you will recover, you will feel better, and you will join me in loving life once again; just please don’t give up or give in and keep going! As I sit here with a cup of coffee and contemplate what I have been through the last several years, it all seems so strange and foreign. Success stories promised that I would make it to recovery, and they were right, so now it is my turn to tell you that you will make it, “You will make it!”. Wishing everyone here all the best and a quick recovery. Please let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to try and help. All my love. Pug It s a marvelous history and it seem to me, first Zoloft, two months after a relapse/ Withdrawal/ now in prozac. Thanks for shared your Journey August 1, 2021 Zoloft 25 mgs August 5 Zoloft 50 mgs and Pregabaline 50mgs at nigth stopped pregabalin October 2021 January 2022 Zoloft 75 mgs March 2022 Zoloft 100mgs March-September: Good time September weanned off Zoloft From 100 to Zero in Three months Aprox January 26, 2023 Started Prozac 5 mgs and 25 pregabaline started Symptom of me :7 weeks after finished Zoloft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaceandlove Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 8/27/2017 at 8:56 AM, gigi63 said: Hey Pug, may I ask, did you ever suffer diarrhea??? Irritable bowels??? If so how did you manage it? Any helpful tips. I am really careful on my diet. FODMAP now, but healthy Whole Foods for many months now!!! Healing absolutely must take place at every level. Also, such a close connection between gut and brain health. Interdependence on one another. have your stomach problems gone away for you? @gigi63 1 April 2022- Only 1 celxa pill 10mg had an adverse reaction & never took anymore again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGG Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 5/29/2017 at 11:03 AM, pug said: Yes, it will feel like a miracle when it happens for you; and it will happen for you, it is just a matter of time. I want to get that out there first thing; it is my belief that we will all heal in time; it has happened for me and is continuing to happen and it will happen for you. Am I completely 100% done healing? No. Am I so, so much better? Oh yes! Now for some basics: Male, mid 50s, took zoloft for over 20 year, quit cold turkey 3.5 years ago, was off 5 months, thought I was relapsing, so started prozac for 3.5 months and then quit that cold turkey. Then I found S.A. and discovered what I was dealing with was not a relapse but withdrawal (and recovery). So yes, I did everything completely wrong and more than once! I am proof that given time we can heal. I currently just celebrated 30 months of being drug free. Now, how to begin to describe the inhumane torture that I have endured until very recently; not sure but I will try. I have gone through both the windows and waves pattern and the continuous misery pattern. I was one of those that suffered a great deal after quitting, but really got slammed at about 6 months off. At 1 year I was barely functioning; at 1.5 years I was still miserable, and at 2 years off I was wondering if I was doomed to endless suffering with no end. But now as I have hit the 2.5 year mark I feel as if I have turned the corner. Windows and waves general comprised the first year and then it became continuous misery for pretty much the next 6 to 12 months or more; and then back to windows and waves. My last serious wave was in months 25-26 and now finally what feels like solid progress the last month or so. I am hesitant to list symptoms because I know how much it use to scare me to read what others were going through; but on the other hand it really helped when a new symptom would start, because I knew it was part of the recovery process and not some disease or sickness, and most of these are gone or have become minimal although they lasted for months or years. And just because I experienced them does not mean that you will, we all have a very individual road to recovery; so here they are in no specific order: Dark depression, anxiety, paranoia, obsessive compulsive, panic attacks, intrusive/obsessive thoughts that tortured me, hopelessness, irrational thinking, suicidal thoughts, brain zaps, intense organic fear, severe inner-body tension that felt like my whole insides were clamped up, sexual dysfunction, severe tension, tremors and pain in the back of my legs and calves, terrible shoulder and upper arm pain, mania, extreme bloating and stomach pain, nausea, dizziness, vertigo, feeling like my brain was on fire, feeling like a part of my brain was missing, feeling like a bomb had gone off in my head, floating head feeling, super-hot face, body temperature regulation problems – being super-hot or cold, constipation, dehydration, lack of appetite and weight loss, feeling dead, anhedonia, akathisia, mood swings, insomnia, terrible brain fog and inability to think clearly, sensitive vision and hearing, inching and burning skin, cold like symptoms, head congestion, phantom smells, constant tinnitus, severe fatigue and exhaustion, health anxiety, I could not read, listen to music, or meditate, heart palpitations, random traveling aching and stabbing pain throughout my body, headaches, and so many other symptoms that I can’t remember. The torture, pain, misery, suffering and utter despair was never ending…until it did finally start to end for me and it will for you too. Did anything help me along the way? I tried many things; acupuncture, vitamins and supplements, alpha-stim, gluten free diet, no sugar diet, no caffeine, no alcohol, and anything else I could do to try and feel better. Did it work? In a sense it all worked because it kept me focused on recovery and gave me hope when I had none, and the possibility that I might feel better. But time passing has been the real healing agent; although that was the last thing I wanted to hear when I was suffering so intensely. I did find that mindfulness, breathing exercises and physical exercise helped when all else failed and I was so truly desperate. Many hours were spent just trying to pay attention to my breath going in and out; and I still use this practice as a relaxation method. It also helped me greatly to visit this website daily as well as Benzo-Buddies. I read success stories for hours at a time, read the Bloom in Wellness facebook page each day and anything by Baylissa Frederick and also Don Killian. So, what remains for me? I still have tinnitus (although it has gotten much better over the last month), stomach bloating and pain on occassion, nerve pain, some brain zaps at night, fatigue and tiredness, and sleep issues. If I had to put some percentages on where I am at now I would say physically I am at about 85-90% healed and mentally/emotionally at 90-95% healed. I now eat anything that I choose although I eat as healthily as possible because I value life so much now and I want to live as long as possible; I exercise regularly and it feels wonderful; I enjoy caffeinated drinks including regular tea and coffee which I had given up for many months; I also drink wine and beer a couple times a week if I choose to and enjoy it. I am in the best shape since high school, and have lost 75 pounds (on purpose). Life is good again and just the simple things are more than enough to bring joy and happiness. So that is my story and I hope it will encourage you as you read it that you will recover and become yourself again. I remember reading similar statements in success stories and thinking, “Yea, right, that is easy for you to say, you are not suffering through this terrible hell right now!” And maybe you are thinking the same thing as I did, but please listen to my words; you will make it, you will recover, you will feel better, and you will join me in loving life once again; just please don’t give up or give in and keep going! As I sit here with a cup of coffee and contemplate what I have been through the last several years, it all seems so strange and foreign. Success stories promised that I would make it to recovery, and they were right, so now it is my turn to tell you that you will make it, “You will make it!”. Wishing everyone here all the best and a quick recovery. Please let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to try and help. All my love. Pug I took them 20 years and stopping them in 5 days I've been off of them 2.7 years. I still struggle I take sam e 100mg enertic tablets in the morning and one in the evening. Did you ever take sam e or vistaril to help you sleep? Year 2010 to 2020 remeron, Buspar, atenelol, Ativan as needed (once a week) remeron stopped working (pooped out) oct 2020 started amitryptyline took it 3 months Dec started wellbutrin, Stopped it 3 months later Started Paxil again for 3 months took vibryd for 1 month, Stopped it in 5 days Started sam e 100mgs 3x a day, Tyrosine 1000mgs 3 x a dayfor 6 months August 2020 - Off all antidepressants 16 th of Feb, 2023 started taperingsam e the 100mg 2 x a day of sam e. I stopped taking the afternoon one. And started every other day then every r day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGG Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 6/9/2017 at 9:33 AM, Happy2Heal said: I thought I had posted my congratulations but I don't see that post, hrmmm Maybe I didn't, my memory is not so good I am so happy for you, and so thankful that you wrote this for those of us still waiting to reach the point where you are. I cried at the thought of being able to drink coffee again, I miss it so much. I miss having just reg tea with caffeine in it, right now all I can drink is this flavorless herbal crap lol Your story is esp encouraging to me, since I"ve been on SSRi's for about 20yrs , it's good to hear that long term 'users' can make it thru this, and even when there are two CTs involved. I did a couple of those myself, one from a high dose and one from a very low dose. I hope you know and appreciate how strong you are to have gotten thru this. I think we are all very impressive people, when I think of us collectively, going thru many of the same trials and difficulties and making it thru day after day. thank you for posting your story and for being available to answer questions, I have a couple but I am not ready to hear the answer so I will save them for a day when I am feeling stronger 😉 Hiw are you now Year 2010 to 2020 remeron, Buspar, atenelol, Ativan as needed (once a week) remeron stopped working (pooped out) oct 2020 started amitryptyline took it 3 months Dec started wellbutrin, Stopped it 3 months later Started Paxil again for 3 months took vibryd for 1 month, Stopped it in 5 days Started sam e 100mgs 3x a day, Tyrosine 1000mgs 3 x a dayfor 6 months August 2020 - Off all antidepressants 16 th of Feb, 2023 started taperingsam e the 100mg 2 x a day of sam e. I stopped taking the afternoon one. And started every other day then every r day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengonewild Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Oh pug so happy for you.i wish it were true that we all get thst miracle but there are some injuries and profound traumas to the body and soul in this that don't have such a fortunate outcome. Much love to you. My poor family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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margaretLO Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Hello pug. Ur story give us hope. God bless you. Can I ask if you had any vision issues? Did you have blank mind at all? When your frontal lobe felt missing? I have no fear at all, only in the beggining of withdraws for one month. I don't see it as a good sign for my anhedonia. How long your fear last?? 💗💗 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipsticklou Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 On 5/29/2017 at 7:03 PM, pug said: Yes, it will feel like a miracle when it happens for you; and it will happen for you, it is just a matter of time. I want to get that out there first thing; it is my belief that we will all heal in time; it has happened for me and is continuing to happen and it will happen for you. Am I completely 100% done healing? No. Am I so, so much better? Oh yes! Now for some basics: Male, mid 50s, took zoloft for over 20 year, quit cold turkey 3.5 years ago, was off 5 months, thought I was relapsing, so started prozac for 3.5 months and then quit that cold turkey. Then I found S.A. and discovered what I was dealing with was not a relapse but withdrawal (and recovery). So yes, I did everything completely wrong and more than once! I am proof that given time we can heal. I currently just celebrated 30 months of being drug free. Now, how to begin to describe the inhumane torture that I have endured until very recently; not sure but I will try. I have gone through both the windows and waves pattern and the continuous misery pattern. I was one of those that suffered a great deal after quitting, but really got slammed at about 6 months off. At 1 year I was barely functioning; at 1.5 years I was still miserable, and at 2 years off I was wondering if I was doomed to endless suffering with no end. But now as I have hit the 2.5 year mark I feel as if I have turned the corner. Windows and waves general comprised the first year and then it became continuous misery for pretty much the next 6 to 12 months or more; and then back to windows and waves. My last serious wave was in months 25-26 and now finally what feels like solid progress the last month or so. I am hesitant to list symptoms because I know how much it use to scare me to read what others were going through; but on the other hand it really helped when a new symptom would start, because I knew it was part of the recovery process and not some disease or sickness, and most of these are gone or have become minimal although they lasted for months or years. And just because I experienced them does not mean that you will, we all have a very individual road to recovery; so here they are in no specific order: Dark depression, anxiety, paranoia, obsessive compulsive, panic attacks, intrusive/obsessive thoughts that tortured me, hopelessness, irrational thinking, suicidal thoughts, brain zaps, intense organic fear, severe inner-body tension that felt like my whole insides were clamped up, sexual dysfunction, severe tension, tremors and pain in the back of my legs and calves, terrible shoulder and upper arm pain, mania, extreme bloating and stomach pain, nausea, dizziness, vertigo, feeling like my brain was on fire, feeling like a part of my brain was missing, feeling like a bomb had gone off in my head, floating head feeling, super-hot face, body temperature regulation problems – being super-hot or cold, constipation, dehydration, lack of appetite and weight loss, feeling dead, anhedonia, akathisia, mood swings, insomnia, terrible brain fog and inability to think clearly, sensitive vision and hearing, inching and burning skin, cold like symptoms, head congestion, phantom smells, constant tinnitus, severe fatigue and exhaustion, health anxiety, I could not read, listen to music, or meditate, heart palpitations, random traveling aching and stabbing pain throughout my body, headaches, and so many other symptoms that I can’t remember. The torture, pain, misery, suffering and utter despair was never ending…until it did finally start to end for me and it will for you too. Did anything help me along the way? I tried many things; acupuncture, vitamins and supplements, alpha-stim, gluten free diet, no sugar diet, no caffeine, no alcohol, and anything else I could do to try and feel better. Did it work? In a sense it all worked because it kept me focused on recovery and gave me hope when I had none, and the possibility that I might feel better. But time passing has been the real healing agent; although that was the last thing I wanted to hear when I was suffering so intensely. I did find that mindfulness, breathing exercises and physical exercise helped when all else failed and I was so truly desperate. Many hours were spent just trying to pay attention to my breath going in and out; and I still use this practice as a relaxation method. It also helped me greatly to visit this website daily as well as Benzo-Buddies. I read success stories for hours at a time, read the Bloom in Wellness facebook page each day and anything by Baylissa Frederick and also Don Killian. So, what remains for me? I still have tinnitus (although it has gotten much better over the last month), stomach bloating and pain on occassion, nerve pain, some brain zaps at night, fatigue and tiredness, and sleep issues. If I had to put some percentages on where I am at now I would say physically I am at about 85-90% healed and mentally/emotionally at 90-95% healed. I now eat anything that I choose although I eat as healthily as possible because I value life so much now and I want to live as long as possible; I exercise regularly and it feels wonderful; I enjoy caffeinated drinks including regular tea and coffee which I had given up for many months; I also drink wine and beer a couple times a week if I choose to and enjoy it. I am in the best shape since high school, and have lost 75 pounds (on purpose). Life is good again and just the simple things are more than enough to bring joy and happiness. So that is my story and I hope it will encourage you as you read it that you will recover and become yourself again. I remember reading similar statements in success stories and thinking, “Yea, right, that is easy for you to say, you are not suffering through this terrible hell right now!” And maybe you are thinking the same thing as I did, but please listen to my words; you will make it, you will recover, you will feel better, and you will join me in loving life once again; just please don’t give up or give in and keep going! As I sit here with a cup of coffee and contemplate what I have been through the last several years, it all seems so strange and foreign. Success stories promised that I would make it to recovery, and they were right, so now it is my turn to tell you that you will make it, “You will make it!”. Wishing everyone here all the best and a quick recovery. Please let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to try and help. All my love. Pug Sertraline from March 2013 to May 2023 200mg per day started reducing April 2023 every other week by 25mg First pill free day 25th May 2023 Gabapentin from 2020 to 2023 900mg per day reduced 100mg per week from April 2023 May 2023 first month free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipsticklou Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Wow that has given me hope , I feel I'm taking 1,small step forward and 10 back at the moment, the sickness is horrendous it seems to go and then it's back again ,any advice ?? Sertraline from March 2013 to May 2023 200mg per day started reducing April 2023 every other week by 25mg First pill free day 25th May 2023 Gabapentin from 2020 to 2023 900mg per day reduced 100mg per week from April 2023 May 2023 first month free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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