Gracee Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, DaveB said: was good on Zoloft for 8 years and I just think I went too fast and need to get back to a baseline stable again you say that like going back on Zoloft means you will go back to stable. what if the opposite happens? Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Tom37 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Whatever you do, make sure any reinstatement is at a very very low dose to avoid an adverse reaction. Just because you were on it previously without issue your nervous system is extremely sensitive now so the game changes. Not my place to say if I agree or not with this plan, just trying to help minimise any possible harm by it. Will be hard to know what drug is causing your symptoms, Paxil cold turkey, klonopin withdrawal or Zoloft reinstatement. 20mg Lexapro 2007 10mg Lexapro 2012 Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3. Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction. Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October. Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 2018 Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov. Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November 2018 Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Tom37 said: Will be hard to know what drug is causing your symptoms, Paxil cold turkey, klonopin withdrawal or Zoloft reinstatement. This is a great point, might be worth tabling the Klonopin taper til I get stable on the Zoloft. Good to hear from you Tom, seems things are finally settling for you. I am very happy for you! 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 if I was going to have an adverse reaction, how soon would it be likely to hit? 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
puthappinessfirst Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Give it a rest. All of it. Seriously. Celexa 10mg: 2007 to June 2018, stopped CT No meds: June 2018 to December 2018 PROTRACTED WD-- major depressive episode for 2+ weeks Lexapro 10mg: December 12, 2018 to January 19, 2019, severe adverse reaction Celexa 10mg: January 20, 2019 June 24, 2019: 9mg July 22, 2019: 8.5mg Jan 8, 2020: 8mg Aug 25, 2020: 7.2mg Supplements: Magnesium, Fish Oil Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, puthappinessfirst said: Give it a rest. All of it. Seriously. How are you doing? I know you recently said you reinstated. Are things getting better for you? 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
puthappinessfirst Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Not as good as they could have been had I: Known how to taper correctly Not listened to my doctor to try a new med 2-3x my original dose I had no idea this forum existed at that time. You have such a wealth of information to guide you through this process, it's hard to see someone not take the harm-reduction approach when we all would have died to have all this information beforehand. I am lucky in that I found this forum after I was getting a bad reaction from the new med and switched back to my "safe" med. (Nope, it's not my safe med anymore, I unfortunately found out. But now I am in too deep to fast taper). If I hadn't stumbled upon SA, I would have been on at least 3 meds by now, and that's not an exaggeration. Celexa 10mg: 2007 to June 2018, stopped CT No meds: June 2018 to December 2018 PROTRACTED WD-- major depressive episode for 2+ weeks Lexapro 10mg: December 12, 2018 to January 19, 2019, severe adverse reaction Celexa 10mg: January 20, 2019 June 24, 2019: 9mg July 22, 2019: 8.5mg Jan 8, 2020: 8mg Aug 25, 2020: 7.2mg Supplements: Magnesium, Fish Oil Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, puthappinessfirst said: Not as good as they could have been had I: Known how to taper correctly Not listened to my doctor to try a new med 2-3x my original dose I had no idea this forum existed at that time. You have such a wealth of information to guide you through this process, it's hard to see someone not take the harm-reduction approach when we all would have died to have all this information beforehand. I am lucky in that I found this forum after I was getting a bad reaction from the new med and switched back to my "safe" med. (Nope, it's not my safe med anymore, I unfortunately found out. But now I am in too deep to fast taper). If I hadn't stumbled upon SA, I would have been on at least 3 meds by now, and that's not an exaggeration. So are you just holding at this point? Getting any better? 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 Day 2 of the Zoloft, don’t think I have felt any adverse reaction yet, maybe a little more “keyed up.” Didn’t need my 2nd dose of Klonopin this morning so I just took .5 today. I am guessing that is a good sign. 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
WantoffVen Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Dave, I'm not a moderator so my two cents is my two cents. I notice you didn't say how much Zoloft you reinstated. You know the recommendation would be a very tiny amount. Also, if you are addicted to the Klonipin now you should NOT be skipping doses. I used to take my Diazepam PRN and Shep wanted me to get on a daily schedule and I did. She said it would be easier to taper down the road. Good luck but I've noticed you really don't take the advice given. So why do you ask for it? Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days) April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium April 2018 weaned to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 10:25 AM, WantoffVen said: Good luck but I've noticed you really don't take the advice given. it's hard to watch, isn't it? ☹️ Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 7:02 AM, JackieDecides said: it's hard to watch, isn't it? ☹️ Sorry I know I may seem like I am not listening, but I don’t know what to do so I unfortunately went back to doctors advice. I held for almost a year on Paxil with no improvement, I felt I needed to make a change, I know it was a risk, but I just didn’t know what to do anymore. 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Anyone tried Progressive Muscle Relaxation with any success? 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted April 25, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 25, 2019 Songbird. That's the way to go: instead of looking for a relief in drugs, go for self-soothing techniques. Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, bubble said: Songbird. That's the way to go: instead of looking for a relief in drugs, go for self-soothing techniques. Good to know, thanks. I know I am just in a mess with drugs. I really messed things up when I fast tapered the Paxil last year, I just didn’t feel I would ever get stable on it, but if has put me in a really bad spot again. Had a good day yesterday so was hoping to stop taking Klonopin soon, but woke up today with such high anxiety, I didn’t dare taper it again yet. 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Also is Klonopin ok to just be dosed once a day? I know it has a long half-life compared with other benzodiazepines. 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted April 25, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 25, 2019 Yes, it's fine to dose once a day. You'll want to move your dose one hour a day (this is much gentler on the nervous system than abruptly switching to once a day). Be mindful of interdose withdrawal and if you notice that happening, you may want to stick with dosing twice a day. 2 hours ago, DaveB said: Had a good day yesterday so was hoping to stop taking Klonopin soon, but woke up today with such high anxiety, I didn’t dare taper it again yet. I would stay on it until you are off the AD. You haven't picked up enough non-drop coping skills to get you through this yet and if you start and stop benzos, it can lead to kindling. Having a good day doesn't mean you need to stop taking your drug. It simply means you're having a good day (i.e. a window). Learn to enjoy the good days without it signaling anything more. 2 hours ago, DaveB said: Anyone tried Progressive Muscle Relaxation with any success? Yes, this is excellent. These are the kinds of things you will benefit from greatly. Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Shep said: I would stay on it until you are off the AD. You haven't picked up enough non-drop coping skills to get you through this yet and if you start and stop benzos, it can lead to kindling. Thanks Shep, I was hoping that I could drop the Klonopin since I haven’t been on it long. I really don’t like the idea of being on 3 drugs especially since we are looking at years to get off the AD. I wouldn’t start and stop, just stop. Thanks for weighing in, I really appreciate it! 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Shep said: Yes, it's fine to dose once a day. You'll want to move your dose one hour a day (this is much gentler on the nervous system than abruptly switching to once a day). Be mindful of interdose withdrawal and if you notice that happening, you may want to stick with dosing twice a day. I am currently dosing once a day since going from 1mg to .5mgs a week ago. Just wanted to make sure once a day was ok. 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, bubble said: Songbird. That's the way to go: instead of looking for a relief in drugs, go for self-soothing techniques. It is also very good to hear from you again. How are you? 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
Gracee Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Dave, You have never listened to the mods' suggestions in the past. Why are you putting them and us on this merry-go-round again?? Sorry, if I am inappropriate, but I have a huge amount of respect for the WD suffers on SA and the mods who volunteer their time and expertise. Sometimes it sounds like you are playing us. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
DaveB Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Gracee said: Dave, You have never listened to the mods' suggestions in the past. Why are you putting them and us on this merry-go-round again?? Sorry, if I am inappropriate, but I have a huge amount of respect for the WD suffers on SA and the mods who volunteer their time and expertise. Sometimes it sounds like you are playing us. I am sorry you feel that way, I am just a guy struggling, trying to figure out the best course of action. Certainly not my intention to waste anyone’s time, though I get how you feel the way you do with all that I have done the last 6 months or so. 2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016. January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro. March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off. June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs October 1st - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018) November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs Link to comment
Mentor RachelSusan Posted April 26, 2019 Mentor Share Posted April 26, 2019 Dave, We are all struggling here, so in my mind that makes everybody on this site family, including you. We are all in this together. As a family member I want only the best for you. I am thinking about you, and hoping you aren't suffering too badly right now. Sending you my support and best wishes. Rachel 1 I am not a health professional in any way. I do not give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a professional medical practitioner. NEW INFORMATION FOR GABAPENTIN TAPER April 29, 2022 900 mg to 800 mg (11%), May 29, 2022 800 to 700 mg (12.5%), June 20, 2022 700 to 650mg (8%), July 20, 2022 650 to 575 (12%), August 20, 575 to 500 (13%), Sept 20, 2020 500 to 475mg (5%) Nov 7, 2022 475 to 425 (11%), Nov 21, 2022 500mg Medications: Gabapentin, Prednisone 1.5mg a day, Cortisol Inhaler daily. HISTORY FOR ZOLOFT TAPER Feb. 2016 to June 2016 - Was on 150mg Zoloft. Put on Gabapentin at 900mg a day in 2016 due to antidepressant withdrawal. Quit Zoloft (Sertraline) June 2016, reinstated 50mg of Zoloft July 2016. From July 2016 to October 2016 went from 50 mg down 2.3 mg. I up-dosed in November 2016 to 12.5 mg. Held there until January 2017 when I started a much slower taper. STARTING SENSIBLE ZOLOFT TAPERING USING GUIDELINES FROM THIS SITE Dec. 10 2016 - switched to Liquid Zoloft (Sertraline) @ 12.5 mg. Jan. 4, 2020 1.875 mg (6.3%). Jan. 25, 2020 1.75 mg. Feb. 29, 2020 1.625mg (7.10%). Apr. 4, 2020 1.5 mg. May 9, 2020 1.375 mg. June 6, 2020 1.25 mg. (9.10%). July 4, 2020 1.125 mg. (10%). August 15, 2020 1.0 mg. Oct 24, 2020 .875 mg. Nov. 28, 2020 .75mg. Jan 16, 2021 .685mg (8.7%). Feb 13, 2021 .62mg. March 12, 2021 .56mg. May 1, 2021 .375mg. May 29, 2021 .25mg. June 26, 2021 .0125mg. July 25, 2021 .065mg. August 22, 2021 .048mg. October 2, 2021 .043mg. October 10, 2021 .038mg. October 23, 2021 .035mg. October 30, 2021 .032mg. Nov. 13, 2021 .030 mg. Dec 4, 2021 .0285 mg. Dec 11, 2021 .0265 mg. Dec 18, 2021 .0246 mg. Dec 25, 2021 .023mg. Jan 1, 2022. 0 mg. OFF COMPLETELY Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted April 27, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 27, 2019 Dave has moved on from the forum, so we are locking this thread. Thanks to everyone who offered support to Dave. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted April 27, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 27, 2019 I have received a couple of PMs from members concerned that either Dave was distraught when he left or that the negative posts on the thread led to him leaving. Neither is the case. The moderators tried and tried to work with Dave, but he wasn't interested in our advice. Because we have so many new members and such a small staff, we felt it in the best interest of the forum to ban his account and lock this thread so we can help those who are interested in the type of tapering advice we offer here. As I posted earlier in Dave's thread, the social support forums such as Benzo Buddies are the best place for people who don't wish to follow any formal withdrawal protocol and wish to bring in other drugs to help. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it's not the way SA operates. We wish Dave well. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 11, 2021 Administrator Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 1/17/2019 at 4:24 PM, RachelSusan said: Hi DaveB, I'm very sorry to hear about the difficult time you are having. It's very hard when your loved ones don't recognize what's going on with you. We don't need them to do anything, we just want to hear, "I believe you." Below are links to the New York Times article about it. Both part one and part two. Certainly a very reputable newspaper. You may want to print them out for your wife. If you already have and she isn't interested in reading it, or if it will just start a fight, probably best not to talk about it too much then. I wish you luck with the home situation and I hope you have better days. Warm wishes, RS https://www.mediafire.com/file/8d2ff3toupvi9sj/18_carey_nyt_ManyPeopleTakingAntidepressantsDiscoverTheyCannotQuit.pdf/file https://www.mediafire.com/file/wkjqers42sxi9ug/18_carey_nyt_Antidepressants_and_Withdrawal.pdf/file Updated links. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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