Spruce30 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I sometimes get morning wood, but not as often as pre PSSD Last took an SSRI January 2009. Last took a benzodiazepine May 2015. Free from all prescription medication since May 2015. Everything has mostly healed apart from PSSD which is still very bad, and is my most distressing symptom. Also i have developed some allergy problems/ sensitivities to things in the environment which i believe was possibly caused by the prescription medications (SSRI's and benzos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Day Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Same as Spruce. I quite often do, but not as often as before. I have read a number of guys who say they don't get it at all with PSSD. But I have no idea what the norm is. Escitalopram for anxiety (dates below are approximate). Oct 09 - Apr 10, 20mg (tapered off over about 6 weeks). Jun 10 - Feb 11, 20mg (tapered off over about 6 weeks). Jun 11 - Aug 12, 20mg (started to taper off but failed). Oct 12 - Dec 13, 20mg. Dec 13 - Apr 14, 10mg. Apr 14 - Nov 14, 5mg. Nov 14 - Jan 16, 20mg. Jan 16 - Aug 16, 10mg. Aug 16 - Dec 16, 10mg every other day. Dec 16 - Jan 17 5mg every third day. Jan 17 - took last tablet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwell3977 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 @Spruce30@1Day Given that many of us don't have morning wood, do you think that we are not getting adequate sleep needed for erections? Perhaps the lack of morning wood is a sign that we aren't getting enough REM sleep and perhaps the solution is to improve our sleep somehow? Maybe the meds screwed up with our sleep patterns and we still aren't getting good deep sleep even after stopping the meds. Thoughts? Serzone (Nefadazone) and Wellbutrin (Buoproprin) for over ten years Nefazadone Starting Point 150 mg 12/2 135 mg, 12/16 130 mg, 12/21 125 mg, 12/24 120 mg, 1/5 110 mg, 1/26 100 mg, 2/9 90 mg, 3/1 80 mg, 3/22 70 mg, 4/12 60 mg 5/3 50 mg, 5/15 55 mg, 8/15 70 mg, 10/15 90 mg, 11/1/12 100 mg, 10/1/13 90 mg, 10/15/13 85 mg, 10/20/13 90 mg, 3/29/15 16 mg Buproprin Starting Point 300 mg 5/1/13 270, 5/15/13 240, 6/1/13 230, 6/15/13 200, 7/1/13 185, 7/20/13 170, 8/20/13 185, 3/29/15 170 Completely off Serzone: 10/1/17; Completely off Buprioprion 5/21/18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubhav Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Veins of my penis have popped up , they were not like this before and I don't get morning erections anymore.....If I sleep on my back there's no way I get erections but if I sleep on my left or right side I do get erections but they are kinda weak.....Anyone else with these symptoms? Erections are not the way they used to be Started escitalopram 10mg in March 2014,then reduced to 5mg....quit it in September 2016 CT...Had a withdrawal, was put again on 10mg one month later.... Again was reduced to 5mg then I Quit it again in December 2017 CT.... Started Having Withdrawals Since Feb 2018... Doc reinstated me on 10mg of escitalopram on May 26 had a aDverse reaction...Stopped reinstatement Still Off Meds Now taking : Omega 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 @greenwell3977, yes I believe REM-sleep and morning wood are strongly connected. So poor REM-sleep -> weaker morning wood. As you know, its not that simple in the end but focusing on improving sleep instead of morning wood may take away loads of stress from the situationen they are in (eg. having no morning wood). Good luck on you recovery. Erections will come back some day if you Iive a good healthy life. Stay away from everything negative to your health for the next couple of years Im sure you will start seeing improvements. Train if you can. 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 9:03 AM, Gavalar09 said: Ah yes! I already do a lot of HIT training, I keep a healthy diet and workout as much as I can. Sorry for late reply. Good! Haven't you felt any difference by doing this for a longer time say 2-3 months? What type of HIT training are you doing? 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 5:21 PM, frasier23 said: Sorry for late reply. Good! Haven't you felt any difference by doing this for a longer time say 2-3 months? What type of HIT training are you doing? @Gavalar09 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) There is a bit about pssd and causes here https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/side-effects/201107/antidepressant-withdrawal-syndrome " When patients try to end treatment, even stepping down their dose very gradually, many of them (22% to 78%, according to Rosenbaum and Fava) find that the receptors in their serotonergic system—saturated artificially for months, even years—experience the drop to pre-drug levels as starvation. Some patients then find themselves at the mercy of hair-trigger symptoms that register as intense anxiety, aggression, and insomnia. Several receptors—including 5-HT1A—aren't especially malleable, moreover, and take longer to sprout anew after drug treatment ends, delaying the patient's return to neuronal health. Indeed, some studies I consulted found that in certain patients those receptors fail to grow back at all, in effect leaving the patients worse off than before. (See for instance "Dissociation of the Plasticity of 5-HT1A Sites and 5-HT Transporter Sites" in Paxil Research Studies 19.3 [1994], 311-15.) As the proportion of SSRI-takers found to suffer from discontinuation syndrome is, by pharmacological standards, astronomical, and "one in ten Americans"—roughly 30 million people in the U.S. alone—"ingests" the drugs each year, as Peter Kramer noted only last week, it seems incredible that clinical trials have been so slow to recognize, and isolate for, withdrawal syndrome in patients trying to taper and end SSRI treatment. The number of people affected would, in any normal situation, drive a lot more targeted research on the problem. However, while drug-companies have done their best to redefine withdrawal syndrome as relapse, to confuse doctors and patients into thinking the original depression or anxiety had returned, the good news is that research is starting to focus exclusively on the widespread problem of SSRI withdrawal syndrome. Today, in her 7th year of recovery from severe Paxil withdrawal syndrome, "Kate"—also known as "Altostrata"—runs a website called "Surviving Antidepressants" that compiles research and data explicitly on the syndrome. She is still "hypersensitive to neuroactive medications," she reports, and recovering from severe setbacks 33 months after discontinuation, but with the help of a doctor who treats and has studied withdrawal syndrome, she is slowly recovering." should probably read this too "Dissociation of the Plasticity of 5-HT1A Sites and 5-HT Transporter Sites" linked above but I haven't. I will say for the record in case anyone cares it is now 11 years post effexor use 7 years of E use 20 years all in AD use...including the E...still have pssd. After 11 years I have lost all hope in this department. Lots of other people recover in this area I haven't. Edited September 15, 2018 by ChessieCat reduced font WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spruce30 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Hi btdt. I was wondering how long you have been off all antidepressants, and if you have seen any improvements in your PSSD since being free of all antidepressants. I too have PSSD, and I am worried I may never heal. Last took an SSRI January 2009. Last took a benzodiazepine May 2015. Free from all prescription medication since May 2015. Everything has mostly healed apart from PSSD which is still very bad, and is my most distressing symptom. Also i have developed some allergy problems/ sensitivities to things in the environment which i believe was possibly caused by the prescription medications (SSRI's and benzos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noloft Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 To everyone following this thread and to those of you suffering from PSSD and other withdraws related issues such as anhedonia and numbness: a few few weeks ago I was talking to my brother about theee issues that I am having. Mainly just complaining. How I’ll never be able to live a full life etc etc. What he said resonated with me a lot. he brought up the case of a paraplegic. Someone who, by no fault of anyone, ended up paralyzed. Unable to feel his own body at all. He told me to think about what this person must be struggling with. The complete loss of ability to have a “normal” life. He then told me to think about what’s this persons options were. 1. Wallow in misery about how his life could never be what it used to be. 2. Accept the fact that he is messed up, possibly for the rest of his life unless someone finds a cure for paralysis. Then, move on and make the best of what he has left. after pondering this I realized that sometimes life does not work out in our favor. But that does not mean we just give in to our circumstances. We have to live with what has been dealt to us and try to do the best we can with it. The other options are to live a life of self pity and victimhood, or to die. I for one, do not want to die. I want to live, despite my mind telling me I don’t with all the suffering I am currently going through. I assure you, at some point, someone such as Stephen Hawking or Christopher Reeves did not want to live anymore. But they did, and they made something of their life. Yes, we have been handed **** on a stick. Some of us are worse off than others. But I am still able to walk, to talk, to tell my family I love them, to sit in nature and to fish when I can. And I try to be grateful for being able to DO these things despite a lack of enjoyment. I assure you, there are dying children who would trade your PSSD and anhedonia in an instant for a chance to spend one more day with their family and friends. I know this does not diminish any of your suffering, but I do know that sometimes a shift in perspective can change your life for the better even when you are in hell. I have not completely made this shift yet but I plan on working on this daily. I think many of you might find a shift in perspective helpful to your current situations. Which suck. What we are dealing with really sucks, I know. But it isn’t the end of your journey and you can still have an impact on the world. 1 2001-2017-worked my way up from 25mg of zoloft and 2mg of Concerta to 200mg of zoloft and 36mg of Concerta February 2017-Stopped Concerta cold turkey September 2017-Added 2mg of Abilify November 2017-came off Abilify December 2017-began taper of zoloft 50mg a week while tapering on to Viibryd January 2018-back on zoloft 200mg February 2018--tapered off zoloft over a month onto 40mg of prozac April 2018-CT prozac due to suspected "serotonin syndrome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantrelief Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Wow, that was a beautiful post, @Noloft. Thank you. -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spruce30 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 That's a good perspective to take on PSSD Noloft. Easier said than done though. It is important to keep a certain amount of anger though and channel it into trying to bring about more awareness of the condition etc. If more people became pro active in raising awareness about PSSD, then acceptance of the condition as a real condition by the medical establishment would happen a lot faster, which would be good for all PSSD sufferers. I have personally spoken to about 110 pharmacies and doctors surgeries about PSSD already. I print off the Rxisk article on PSSD and travel to pharmacies and doctors surgeries talking to the pharmacists about PSSD, and asking the practice managers in the doctors surgeries to speak to the doctors about PSSD, and handing in the Rxisk article on PSSD. I then get the pharmacists and doctors surgeries to email Rxisk that they have received the information on PSSD. If more people did this, then the word about PSSD would travel a lot faster, as most doctors and pharmacists are unaware of PSSD. If anyone with PSSD is interested in being pro active about spreading awareness about PSSD, helping themselves and others with PSSD in the process, let me know and I can tell you how to do it. Last took an SSRI January 2009. Last took a benzodiazepine May 2015. Free from all prescription medication since May 2015. Everything has mostly healed apart from PSSD which is still very bad, and is my most distressing symptom. Also i have developed some allergy problems/ sensitivities to things in the environment which i believe was possibly caused by the prescription medications (SSRI's and benzos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peng Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 9 hours ago, wantrelief said: Wow, that was a beautiful post, @Noloft. Thank you. +1 Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted September 17, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 17, 2018 Great post, Noloft. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 @Noloft Great sharing. I use to motivate myself by reading stories of cancer patients. By doing that I realise I rather go with pssd and with a good ( might be negotiable hehe) possibility to heal long term. 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeipii Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Nice words as such. But having a total anhedonia and amotivation on top of this makes it impossible to get even the hope helping. Beside this hell I lost my family, job, capability to even get out of my home... I have compared my state to eg. people with cancer and and unfortunately ended up that this is worse. In cancer you suffer terrible pain from a known reason, and you have a chance to really recover or die, and the status is quite well known. Here we are impaired with no proper knowledge of anything about the condition, no known cure, and no prognosis other than hundreds of sad stories. Believe, I have tried my best. If I "just" had pssd, it would be a bit easier. But basically existing as a body without soul and mental energy to even get out of your bed - you are not a human being any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnypeters1234567 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zeipii said: Nice words as such. But having a total anhedonia and amotivation on top of this makes it impossible to get even the hope helping. Beside this hell I lost my family, job, capability to even get out of my home... I have compared my state to eg. people with cancer and and unfortunately ended up that this is worse. In cancer you suffer terrible pain from a known reason, and you have a chance to really recover or die, and the status is quite well known. Here we are impaired with no proper knowledge of anything about the condition, no known cure, and no prognosis other than hundreds of sad stories. Believe, I have tried my best. If I "just" had pssd, it would be a bit easier. But basically existing as a body without soul and mental energy to even get out of your bed - you are not a human being any more. Totally agree. I find myself jealous of street drug addicts, thats how bad it is.. 1 2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems Sertaline 2010- 6monnths 2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeipii Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Exactly. And typically you heal out of even years or decades of heavy street drugs in a reasonable time. It is a known fact. But here, the brain and nervous system have been altered genetically, and time may bring no change. And you may only need a few days to get this happening to you. So no matter what admitting strategies, they will not help if you can't actually do the things listed in the original post. And I appreciate the text, but in my case there is no help even out of extreme attitude psyching and all willpower that can be still found. And I am not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeipii Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 And even the street drug addicts often with hard lives can feel moments of joy or high. It is a real reason to be actually envious, even if life prognosis and quality may be largely miserable. It has all been taken away at least for me. No activity, no substance gives me satisfaction or motivation any more. Having lost sexuality is one corner, but when the same applies for everything in life, there is really no feeling of life any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spruce30 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Yeah I have to agree a lot with Zeippi and Johnny peters. On a good day I can be semi philosophical about it, but a lot of the time I feel so beaten down and filled with rage at the injustice of this PSSD, that I just can't feel positive about anything. No one up for talking to some pharmacists or doctors surgeries about PSSD then? Last took an SSRI January 2009. Last took a benzodiazepine May 2015. Free from all prescription medication since May 2015. Everything has mostly healed apart from PSSD which is still very bad, and is my most distressing symptom. Also i have developed some allergy problems/ sensitivities to things in the environment which i believe was possibly caused by the prescription medications (SSRI's and benzos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noloft Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Zeipii said: Nice words as such. But having a total anhedonia and amotivation on top of this makes it impossible to get even the hope helping. Beside this hell I lost my family, job, capability to even get out of my home... I have compared my state to eg. people with cancer and and unfortunately ended up that this is worse. In cancer you suffer terrible pain from a known reason, and you have a chance to really recover or die, and the status is quite well known. Here we are impaired with no proper knowledge of anything about the condition, no known cure, and no prognosis other than hundreds of sad stories. Believe, I have tried my best. If I "just" had pssd, it would be a bit easier. But basically existing as a body without soul and mental energy to even get out of your bed - you are not a human being any more. It may be worse than cancer but you are diminishing your healing chances by refusing to accept that you are in this situation. 2001-2017-worked my way up from 25mg of zoloft and 2mg of Concerta to 200mg of zoloft and 36mg of Concerta February 2017-Stopped Concerta cold turkey September 2017-Added 2mg of Abilify November 2017-came off Abilify December 2017-began taper of zoloft 50mg a week while tapering on to Viibryd January 2018-back on zoloft 200mg February 2018--tapered off zoloft over a month onto 40mg of prozac April 2018-CT prozac due to suspected "serotonin syndrome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampo Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I have had morning woods almost daily for six months before the last week. Suddenly I lost them at all. Have someone experienced same? I tried thc free hemp oil and after that the situation has been like this. I fear that it made my PSSD even worse. I'm not a native english speaker, sorry! My history with Sertraline: November 2009 - September 2013: most of the time my dose was 100 mg but when I stoped taking it first time my dose was 25 mg. Unfornately I decided to start taking Sertraline again in April 2014. My new dose was 50 mg. I took my last pill of Sertraline in November 2014. Then my dose was 25 mg. Symptoms: PSSD, anhedonia and emotional anesthesia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noloft Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 8:41 AM, Spruce30 said: That's a good perspective to take on PSSD Noloft. Easier said than done though. It is important to keep a certain amount of anger though and channel it into trying to bring about more awareness of the condition etc. If more people became pro active in raising awareness about PSSD, then acceptance of the condition as a real condition by the medical establishment would happen a lot faster, which would be good for all PSSD sufferers. I have personally spoken to about 110 pharmacies and doctors surgeries about PSSD already. I print off the Rxisk article on PSSD and travel to pharmacies and doctors surgeries talking to the pharmacists about PSSD, and asking the practice managers in the doctors surgeries to speak to the doctors about PSSD, and handing in the Rxisk article on PSSD. I then get the pharmacists and doctors surgeries to email Rxisk that they have received the information on PSSD. If more people did this, then the word about PSSD would travel a lot faster, as most doctors and pharmacists are unaware of PSSD. If anyone with PSSD is interested in being pro active about spreading awareness about PSSD, helping themselves and others with PSSD in the process, let me know and I can tell you how to do it. Spruce, I have been trying to convince the psych team I work with for my ocd that the medication did this to me to no avail. If you have any tips on convincing a doctor to change their beliefs I’m all ears. I would trust the doctors I’m working with a lot more if they would just freaking admit that’s hey, maybe these drugs did some damage to you. Instead of pulling the “we don’t know for sure” or we can’t tell for sure what happened or why” card. I don’t know how to make it any clearer to then that as soon as I tapered—as soon as I made a cut—sexual dysfunction happened. It’s incredibly irritating to not be validated. However, I am determined to ride this out for a long as it takes. If I can one day get a TASTE of normal sexual and mental functioning again, I will be THE HAPPIEST MAN ALIVE 2001-2017-worked my way up from 25mg of zoloft and 2mg of Concerta to 200mg of zoloft and 36mg of Concerta February 2017-Stopped Concerta cold turkey September 2017-Added 2mg of Abilify November 2017-came off Abilify December 2017-began taper of zoloft 50mg a week while tapering on to Viibryd January 2018-back on zoloft 200mg February 2018--tapered off zoloft over a month onto 40mg of prozac April 2018-CT prozac due to suspected "serotonin syndrome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noloft Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 1:40 PM, Zeipii said: Exactly. And typically you heal out of even years or decades of heavy street drugs in a reasonable time. It is a known fact. But here, the brain and nervous system have been altered genetically, and time may bring no change. And you may only need a few days to get this happening to you. So no matter what admitting strategies, they will not help if you can't actually do the things listed in the original post. And I appreciate the text, but in my case there is no help even out of extreme attitude psyching and all willpower that can be still found. And I am not the only one. This is is just what you believe zeippi. If you believe you are hopeless, then you are. It is not the true reality of your situation it is just what is being distorted by your broken brain at the moment. Willpower isn’t something you just lose. Just because you don’t feel like you have any willpower doesn’t mean it’s not there. It might be damaged, but it is still there somewhere. I have moments where I get stuck in the not feeling alive or human etc no will anymore etc. but then I have to question if that is truly the case then why am I still here? The fact that you are still on this forum talking to people suggests you still have your willpower, it just doesn’t currently feel like you think it should and it’s not being directed at things you normally would direct it at. If you can accept that for now maybe your willpower is a bit different than what it usually is maybe that might help you with your situation. I understand totally where you are coming from though and it is a tough place to be in. Just my 2 cents. 2001-2017-worked my way up from 25mg of zoloft and 2mg of Concerta to 200mg of zoloft and 36mg of Concerta February 2017-Stopped Concerta cold turkey September 2017-Added 2mg of Abilify November 2017-came off Abilify December 2017-began taper of zoloft 50mg a week while tapering on to Viibryd January 2018-back on zoloft 200mg February 2018--tapered off zoloft over a month onto 40mg of prozac April 2018-CT prozac due to suspected "serotonin syndrome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeipii Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I am sorry, I dont think I can and want to do much effort in explaining how much I disagree, but I have to say a few words. You maybe understand there are variable levels of pssd/anhedonia/amotivation/apathy, and you seem to have an easier case. You can not go into another persons situation. I have a very severe case of all these added by chronic insomnia with typically even 36-48 hours between any sleep. I have also lost my appetite totally as well as skin sensitivity in large part of my body, not just the genitals. All this since 18 months now, no change. I have been on disability from work all this time, and it is an achievement if I get myself to buy groceries once a week. It is not a matter of attitude. Every day I hope, believe and push myself to the limit. But even that does not help. I am not a person with a weak will. Here I mainly talk about anhedonia and amotivation. I could somehow survive without sex and the other symptoms, if there was any zest in life in general. Or if one single thing felt good. And what is there to accept? If you are in deep suffering and you can not do anything for it, you are there. It is the reality. So with all respect, please do not jump into thinking what the other person goes through. Just respect anyone telling his/her own true story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeipii Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 And no intention to be rude, but comparing to various cases I just seem to have a very severe case with all possible hellish symptoms. I hope and prey every minute that all sufferers will heal. Thats all I can do. Regarding the pdocs, I have met around 15 of them and none of them accept this to be meds caused. It is a universal lie they keep with big pharma. They know they have destroyed a lot of lives, but can not accept the psych meds and basically whole psychiatry is a hoax made in hell. Of couse not, because their jobs and money is all based on this lie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spruce30 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Noloft. Print off the Rxisk page on PSSD (you can find it on the Rxisk website). Near the end of the PSSD article there are a number of pages with scientific studies on PSSD. Print off the whole PSSD article on PSSD and highlight the studies with a highlighter and give it to your doctor to read. If they still won't believe ask them to email the Dr Healy who runs the Rxisk organisation and is a professor of psychiatry. Dr Healy's email is David.Healy (at symbol) rxisk.org (provided this way because of spam bots) He can and will confirm that PSSD is real if they won't believe the article Edited September 23, 2018 by ChessieCat email address Last took an SSRI January 2009. Last took a benzodiazepine May 2015. Free from all prescription medication since May 2015. Everything has mostly healed apart from PSSD which is still very bad, and is my most distressing symptom. Also i have developed some allergy problems/ sensitivities to things in the environment which i believe was possibly caused by the prescription medications (SSRI's and benzos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escitalopramsucks Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Some new findings for the femenine symptoms of PSSD. It could be good. There isnt a medicine!! Its just the stimulation of a nerve and for the moment they obtained good results. http://www.elmundo.es/f5/descubre/2018/03/25/5ab3cb5f468aeb57668b463b.html https://www.losreplicantes.com/articulos/viagra-femenino-descarga-electrica-tobillo-aumenta-deseo-sexual/ Translate to English, please. PROBLEM. PSSD Symptons:- 1 Not arousal, not libido: the sensation of "I could live without sex" - 2 I can get orgasms but they are much weaker. -3 I have noticed that my breast don´t get swollen before menstruation (This has improved) -4 Lack of vaginal discharge (this has improved)- 5 Barely absence of vaginal odourInduced by In Escitalopram 1 year and two monthsBegining:10 mg per day -Jun 2013 to May 2013-Reduce to 10 gr every two days - Jun 2013 to Aug 2013 Eventually quit on September 2013. Slight Improvements. Window: 3 days on August 2015 WHY STARTING WITH IT?Great general anxiety that Esc. cured . Novemb 2015 anxiety hasd returnedNatural suplements or herbs you are having?: 1500 mg oil fish omega 3 daily since 28/1/2014. December 15. 0,5-1 gr lorazepam per day. "if you come up with any good ideas, please let me know" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeipii Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Interesting, but why would it only work for women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 23, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 hours ago, escitalopramsucks said: https://www.losreplicantes.com/articulos/viagra-femenino-descarga-electrica-tobillo-aumenta-deseo-sexual/ Translate to English, please. Please note: I have not read through this. All I have done is copied and pasted the translation. Thanks to Google Translate (available in Chrome browser): Female Viagra: an electric shock in the ankle increases sexual desire Scientists at the University of Michigan have discovered that the tibial nerve is key to increasing women's sexual desires. Neither the hotel nights of "romantiqueo", with flowers and aromas. Not even jacuzzi afternoons. Neither chocolate in the form of chocolates or the body (which here is a matter of taste). Not even preliminary games, or sex toys. Nothing compares, they say, to the new experiment discovered by scientists at the University of Michigan. These have found a key nerve in the bodies of women that can increase their sexual desire: the tibial nerve. It extends from the soles of the feet to the bottom of the spine, but is more accessible at the ankle. This electricity delivery works in less than 30 minutes by sending blood to a woman's private parts , the tests show. As a result, women experience a mild tingling. Something that causes the same effect as Viagra to give a night of passion to all women with a lack of sexual desire. Women with a lack of libido have nothing physically wrong with their genitals , that is, they can get excited and have sex, even reach orgasm, but they do not feel any motivation to have sex. The main problem is what is known as the " circuits of desire " inside your brain that do not ignite, neither for your partners nor even for your own fantasies. This lack of sexual appetite leads to frustration and increases the risk of anxiety and depression. From bladder problems to increase sexual desire This discovery has been almost unintentional, not to say, that has been pure chance. Scientists were treating patients with bladder problems when, without waiting, they claimed to have seen improvements in their sex lives. Something that scientists believe may be due to the fact that the tibial nerve is in contact with the nerves in the pelvis that lead to the spinal cord. Arousal disorder Some studies say that 10% of adult women have arousal disorder, but others report that it is as high as 28%. Therefore, a blow to the ankle can increase blood flow to a more intimate area, creating the same effect as a night of passion. It offers an alternative to drugs, which have mixed results and can have side effects. The same US researchers are conducting a trial with 30 women with the so-called arousal disorder. The results are expected to be published later this year. Professor Tim Bruns, University of Michigan, is optimistic: " .. We're really hopeful If stimulation is repeated for three months, could lead to better blood flow and nerve to the ****** connections improve symptoms of the disorder of genital excitement . " For his part, Dr. Geoff Hackett, head of the British Society of Sexual Medicine, has applauded this new promise: " If it works, it could be profitable and more acceptable than drugs ." Addyi, the pink pill In the nineties, viagra was launched into the market as the remedy that would push men towards a virile future of the "most promising". And until 2015 its similar did not appear, but for them With the trade name of Addyi is a drug, originating in antidepressants that acts on chemicals in the brain and not to activate blood flows , so it requires a continuous treatment, not punctual, in which the long list of contraindications can even overcome the benefits. In fact, among the long list of contraindications that accompany the medication, is the strong warning against taking this pill with alcohol. Among the side effects are hypotension and even possible fainting . In addition, in more than 10% of cases, they have suffered dizziness, drowsiness, fatigue, insomnia or dry mouth. This medicine is not recommended and the above is yet to be seen. What we have clear is that if you are reading this, and you are a man, do not force your partner to increase his libido for your benefit. Support it * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 23, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, escitalopramsucks said: http://www.elmundo.es/f5/descubre/2018/03/25/5ab3cb5f468aeb57668b463b.html Please note: I have not read through this. All I have done is copied and pasted the translation. Thanks to Google Translate (available in Chrome browser): The natural Viagra for women that works with a discharge in the ankle Does not need drugs and a weekly session is enough Although it seems obvious, sexual dysfunction is not just a man's thing. In fact, according to some recent studies , 46% of women between 40 and 80 suffer from this type of problem. A percentage that, to the surprise of many, is 14% more than their male counterparts. It is worth asking, then, how it is possible that almost everyone knows about the existence of drugs such as Viagra or Cialis , and practically no one is able to quote a single one specifically indicated for women. The answer is as disheartening as it is simple: because no laboratory has yet managed to find it. The closest thing, until now, was the Addyi , the misnamed Pink Viagra . It is a drug whose active principle is flibanserin and which aims to raise the libido of women. Of course, unlike what happens with the blue pill, whose effects are guaranteed for one in five men , the incidence of erectile dysfunction in Spain, the use Addyi is much more restrictive. It can only be consumed by women diagnosed with hypoactive sexual desire disorder (TDSH) who report emotional stress due to this lack of libido. That is, it only serves 10% of women , and as long as they have not entered menopause and consume it daily. Despite the evident delay that medicine has been evidencing in everything concerning female sexuality, a ray of light seems to finally appear around the corner. The people in charge are a group of American scientists who recently discovered what the media of the whole world have not been slow to baptize as the female Viagra . Nerve stimulation from the foot Very shortly before it was 20 years after the start of the marketing of sildenafil , a team of researchers from the University of Michigan located a key nerve when it comes to increasing sexual desire in women: the tibial nerve, a branch of the nerve sciatica that extends from the sole of the feet to the lower part of the spine and to which, according to the Americans, it is very easily accessed from the ankle. The finding, like so many others in the history of science, would come by chance. In this case, while trying to improve the quality of life of a series of patients with bladder problems. After a few experimental sessions stimulating the aforementioned nerve, what the volunteers agreed to report in unison was far from what the doctors expected . According to them, although they also began to notice how some of their bladder problems remitted, what they truly experienced after several sessions of small discharges in the tibial nerve was a huge improvement in the sexual arena. And, as they would later prove in animals, with a minimal and controlled electric shock in the area of the ankle that abuts this nerve generates a body reaction very similar to that felt by men when taking Viagra. The reason that would explain why women who undergo this treatment feel such an obvious increase in desire could be due to the fact that the tibial nerve is in contact with nerves in the pelvis that lead to the spinal cord. The increase in blood supply that would occur just after stimulating the nerve of yore would, then, be very similar to that experienced by men taking sildenafil. Hence, it is said that this treatment acts as a natural Viagra . Half an hour a week One of the most striking aspects that emerge from the first probatures is that a session of half an hour a week would be more than enough to ensure a substantial improvement in sexual relations to seven days view. If the results of the study that is currently being carried out with dozens of patients with arousal disorder are favorable, those responsible for the project are convinced that we will soon see how female Viagra is a reality available to all women in the world. . If everything goes according to the most optimistic forecasts, any woman, without needing to take any drug, will be able to enjoy her sexual life in less than a year . That is, at least, your objective. Edited September 23, 2018 by ChessieCat * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noloft Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 2:15 AM, Zeipii said: I am sorry, I dont think I can and want to do much effort in explaining how much I disagree, but I have to say a few words. You maybe understand there are variable levels of pssd/anhedonia/amotivation/apathy, and you seem to have an easier case. You can not go into another persons situation. I have a very severe case of all these added by chronic insomnia with typically even 36-48 hours between any sleep. I have also lost my appetite totally as well as skin sensitivity in large part of my body, not just the genitals. All this since 18 months now, no change. I have been on disability from work all this time, and it is an achievement if I get myself to buy groceries once a week. It is not a matter of attitude. Every day I hope, believe and push myself to the limit. But even that does not help. I am not a person with a weak will. Here I mainly talk about anhedonia and amotivation. I could somehow survive without sex and the other symptoms, if there was any zest in life in general. Or if one single thing felt good. And what is there to accept? If you are in deep suffering and you can not do anything for it, you are there. It is the reality. So with all respect, please do not jump into thinking what the other person goes through. Just respect anyone telling his/her own true story. I assure you zeippi there is nothing EASY about the extent of my PSSD, anhedonia or emotional numbness. I am also living with depersonalization disorder. I would say I am 99% emotionally numb and anhedonic and my sexual functioning is about 2% normal. I go four nights a week sometimes with no sleep. I have a multitudes of other symptoms. I force myself to go to work and engage in hobbies because I don’t want to look back in 40 years at a life of doing nothing even if I have to suffer through it. Even if you have to suffer through life you only get one life despite what has happened to you. I am choosing not to waste mine and doing the best I can to live a normal life in spite of all of this. All i am saying is that if you cannot find some kind of perceptive shift while you are going through this amount of suffering you’re not gonna be able to ease that suffering at all. I do not think you understand what acceptance means. Acceptance of suffering does not mean giving up or accepting you will suffer forever. It just means for now you aren’t well. FOR NOW. Accepting that for now things are messed up can help you get some space and distance from what you are going through. I am am in an indescribable amount of misery but i have shifted my perspective a bit and it has helped me, so I posted that here to see if it helps anyone else. Rest assured I am not trying to have a suffering competition. No one is winning on this forum in terms of suffering. All I was trying to say was maybe a shift in perspective can help. I do not see my original posts as having been rude or disrespectful of your pain. I am simply trying to offer you another way of dealing with it. 1 2001-2017-worked my way up from 25mg of zoloft and 2mg of Concerta to 200mg of zoloft and 36mg of Concerta February 2017-Stopped Concerta cold turkey September 2017-Added 2mg of Abilify November 2017-came off Abilify December 2017-began taper of zoloft 50mg a week while tapering on to Viibryd January 2018-back on zoloft 200mg February 2018--tapered off zoloft over a month onto 40mg of prozac April 2018-CT prozac due to suspected "serotonin syndrome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 24, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Noloft said: I do not see my original posts as having been rude or disrespectful of your pain. I am simply trying to offer you another way of dealing with it. Noloft, your posts have been thoughtfully written. They are not rude or disrespectful. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 3:57 PM, Sampo said: I have had morning woods almost daily for six months before the last week. Suddenly I lost them at all. Have someone experienced same? I tried thc free hemp oil and after that the situation has been like this. I fear that it made my PSSD even worse. @Sampo. I think/hope Im on my way to recovery. I also have short periods of morning wood etc. Sometimes 1 week then nothing for a while. Strength is getting a little better. Are you having season variations? I take no supplements just good food and exercise. 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
India Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 6:26 AM, Noloft said: I have been trying to convince the psych team I work with for my ocd that the medication did this to me to no avail. If you have any tips on convincing a doctor to change their beliefs I’m all ears. I They cannot admit it because then they admit their negligence, their harm. Hannah Arendt, the German philosopher called it "the banality of evil" after eichmann said of authorising Hitler's final solution, "I was just following orders". I'm sorry everyone is going through this. 1999: Paroxetine (20mg). Age 16. 2007-2008: Fluoxetine (Prozac) for 1.5 years (age 25) Citalopram 20mg 2002-2005, 2009: Escitalopram (20mg), 2 weeks, (age 26) (adverse reaction)/*Valium 5mg/Temazepam 10mg 2010: Mirtazipine (Remeron)( do not remember dosage) 2010, 5 months. 2010-2017: Citalopram (20mg) (age 27 to 34) 2016: i.1st Sept- 31st Oct Citalopram 10mg , ii.1st November 2017-30th November 2017, Citalopram 5mg iii.1st December 2017- 4th February 2018, Citalopram 0mg, iv.5th February 2018- March 2018 Citalopram 5mg (10mg every other day) 28th February- tried titration of 5mg ( some adverse effects) 2018: 1st March 2018- 1st June Citalopram 10 mg (tablet form) /started titration 8mg , then 7 mg.2018: June 15th- 10th July Citalopram 10 mg pill every other day 2018: 10th July - 13th Sept Citalopram- 0mg (CBD oil first month of 0mg, passiflora on and off) 2018 13th Sept Citalopram 2mg , approx 16th Sept 4mg , approx 25th Sept 6mg held. 2019: 11 Feb 19: 7mg (instant bad rxn) 12 Feb 19 6mg held 1 May 19 5.4mg held 5 Oct 19 5.36mg 22 Oct 19 5.29mg 30 Oct 19 5.23mg 4/NOV/19 5.18mg 12 Nov 19 5.08mg 20 Nov 19 4.77mg 7 May 22 2.31mg 17/09/2023 0.8mg (Herbal/Supplements since 1st September: Omega Fish Oil 1200mg, 663mg of EPA- 2 tablets a day, magnesium and magnesium bath salts) I did not die, and yet I lost life’s breath - Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted January 1, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 1, 2019 This post has just come in from member ☼-petersv-pssd-23andme-results-loss-libido-and-emotions-ssri 11 hours ago, PeterSv said: I had forgotten all about PSSD and living a pretty normal life with pretty good libido and overall good wellbeing. In my opinion it is a hard equation to have good libido while feeling depressed and spending your day on the internet searching for information about how broken you are. I went to a councler but did the work mostly myself, doing what I needed to feel good cognitively and emotionally and doing things I enjoy. But it is good to ask for help, try to find someone you trust. Working out but also resting. For me sexual interest comes when I am in a good place and not when I am desperate and feel hopelessness. Also I met an attractive girl I feel in love with and I sexually it just worked. If I had "true PSSD" or if most was "imagined" or it was there for other reasons I don´t know. But I percieved my 1-2 years as feeling low, worriyng a lot, having low interest in life, low libido etc. Today I feel more normal. But it took time and I needed to take care of myself. My strategy was going off internet, meeting people, doing activities, also resting, getting my life under control and mental and physical wellbeing. My only reason for posting this is to give you some hope. This was my story, you will create yours. Good luck Peter * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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