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greenwell3977

@Spruce30@1Day  Given that many of us don't have morning wood, do you think that we are not getting adequate sleep needed for erections?  Perhaps the lack of morning wood is a sign that we aren't getting enough REM sleep and perhaps the solution is to improve our sleep somehow?  Maybe the meds screwed up with our sleep patterns and we still aren't getting good deep sleep even after stopping the meds. 

 

Thoughts?

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Anubhav

Veins of my penis have popped up , they were not like this before and I don't get morning erections anymore.....If I sleep on my back there's no way I get erections but if I sleep on my left or right side I do get erections but they are kinda weak.....Anyone else with these symptoms?

Erections are not the way they used to be 

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frasier23

@greenwell3977, yes I believe REM-sleep and morning wood are strongly connected. So poor REM-sleep -> weaker morning wood. As you know, its not that simple in the end but focusing on improving sleep instead of morning wood may take away  loads of stress from the situationen they are in (eg. having no morning wood).

 

Good luck on you recovery. Erections will come back some day if you Iive a good healthy life. Stay away from everything negative to your health for the next couple of years Im sure you will start seeing improvements. Train if you can.

 

 

 

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On 7/17/2018 at 9:03 AM, Gavalar09 said:

Ah yes! I already do a lot of HIT training, I keep a healthy diet and workout as much as I can. 

Sorry for late reply. Good! Haven't you felt any difference by doing this for a longer time say 2-3 months?

What type of HIT training are you doing?

 

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On 9/9/2018 at 5:21 PM, frasier23 said:

Sorry for late reply. Good! Haven't you felt any difference by doing this for a longer time say 2-3 months?

What type of HIT training are you doing?

 

@Gavalar09

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btdt

There is a bit about pssd and causes here 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/side-effects/201107/antidepressant-withdrawal-syndrome

 

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When patients try to end treatment, even stepping down their dose very gradually, many of them (22% to 78%, according to Rosenbaum and Fava) find that the receptors in their serotonergic system—saturated artificially for months, even years—experience the drop to pre-drug levels as starvation. Some patients then find themselves at the mercy of hair-trigger symptoms that register as intense anxiety, aggression, and insomnia.

Several receptors—including 5-HT1A—aren't especially malleable, moreover, and take longer to sprout anew after drug treatment ends, delaying the patient's return to neuronal health. Indeed, some studies I consulted found that in certain patients those receptors fail to grow back at all, in effect leaving the patients worse off than before. (See for instance "Dissociation of the Plasticity of 5-HT1A Sites and 5-HT Transporter Sites" in Paxil Research Studies 19.3 [1994], 311-15.)

As the proportion of SSRI-takers found to suffer from discontinuation syndrome is, by pharmacological standards, astronomical, and "one in ten Americans"—roughly 30 million people in the U.S. alone—"ingests" the drugs each year, as Peter Kramer noted only last week, it seems incredible that clinical trials have been so slow to recognize, and isolate for, withdrawal syndrome in patients trying to taper and end SSRI treatment. The number of people affected would, in any normal situation, drive a lot more targeted research on the problem.

However, while drug-companies have done their best to redefine withdrawal syndrome as relapse, to confuse doctors and patients into thinking the original depression or anxiety had returned, the good news is that research is starting to focus exclusively on the widespread problem of SSRI withdrawal syndrome.

Today, in her 7th year of recovery from severe Paxil withdrawal syndrome, "Kate"—also known as "Altostrata"—runs a website called "Surviving Antidepressants" that compiles research and data explicitly on the syndrome. She is still "hypersensitive to neuroactive medications," she reports, and recovering from severe setbacks 33 months after discontinuation, but with the help of a doctor who treats and has studied withdrawal syndrome, she is slowly recovering."

 

should probably read this too 

"Dissociation of the Plasticity of 5-HT1A Sites and 5-HT Transporter Sites"

linked above but I haven't.  

 

I will say for the record in case anyone cares it is now 11 years post effexor use 7 years of E use 20 years all in AD use...including the E...still have pssd. After 11 years I have lost all hope in this department.  Lots of other people recover in this area I haven't.

 

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Spruce30

Hi btdt.

 

I was wondering how long you have been off all antidepressants, and if you have seen any improvements in your PSSD since being free of all antidepressants.

 

I too have PSSD, and I am worried I may never heal.

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Noloft

To everyone following this thread and to those of you suffering from PSSD and other withdraws related issues such as anhedonia and numbness:

 

a few few weeks ago I was talking to my brother about theee issues that I am having. Mainly just complaining. How I’ll never be able to live a full life etc etc. 

 

What he said resonated with me a lot.

 

he brought up the case of a paraplegic. Someone who, by no fault of anyone, ended up paralyzed. Unable to feel his own body at all. He told me to think about what this person must be struggling with. The complete loss of ability to have a “normal” life. He then told me to think about what’s this persons options were. 

 

1. Wallow in misery about how his life could never be what it used to be.

 

2. Accept the fact that he is messed up, possibly for the rest of his life unless someone finds a cure for paralysis. Then, move on and make the best of what he has left.

 

after pondering this I realized that sometimes life does not work out in our favor. But that does not mean we just give in to our circumstances. We have to live with what has been dealt to us and try to do the best we can with it. The other options are to live a life of self pity and victimhood, or to die. 

 

I for one, do not want to die. I want to live, despite my mind telling me I don’t with all the suffering I am currently going through. I assure you, at some point, someone such as Stephen Hawking or Christopher Reeves did not want to live anymore. But they did, and they made something of their life. 

 

Yes, we have been handed **** on a stick. Some of us are worse off than others. But I am still able to walk, to talk, to tell my family I love them, to sit in nature and to fish when I can. And I try to be grateful for being able to DO these things despite a lack of enjoyment. 

 

I assure you, there are dying children who would trade your PSSD and anhedonia in an instant for a chance to spend one more day with their family and friends.

 

 

I know this does not diminish any of your suffering, but I do know that sometimes a shift in perspective can change your life for the better even when you are in hell.

 

I have not completely made this shift yet but I plan on working on this daily. I think many of you might find a shift in perspective helpful to your current situations. Which suck. What we are dealing with really sucks, I know. But it isn’t the end of your journey and you can still have an impact on the world. 

 

 

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wantrelief

Wow, that was a beautiful post, @Noloft. Thank you.

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Spruce30

That's a good perspective to take on PSSD Noloft.

 

Easier said than done though.

 

It is important to keep a certain amount of anger though and channel it into trying to bring about more awareness of the condition etc.

 

If more people became pro active in raising awareness about PSSD, then acceptance of the condition as a real condition by the medical establishment would happen a lot faster, which would be good for all PSSD sufferers.

 

I have personally spoken to about 110 pharmacies and doctors surgeries about PSSD already. I print off the Rxisk article on PSSD and travel to pharmacies and doctors surgeries talking to the pharmacists about PSSD, and asking the practice managers in the doctors surgeries to speak to the doctors about PSSD, and handing in the Rxisk article on PSSD. I then get the pharmacists and doctors surgeries to email Rxisk that they have received the information on PSSD.  If more people did this, then the word about PSSD would travel a lot faster, as most doctors and pharmacists are unaware of PSSD.

 

If anyone with PSSD is interested in being pro active about spreading awareness about PSSD, helping themselves and others with PSSD in the process, let me know and I can tell you how to do it.

 

 

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peng
9 hours ago, wantrelief said:

Wow, that was a beautiful post, @Noloft. Thank you.

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Gridley

Great post, Noloft.  

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frasier23

@Noloft Great sharing. I use to motivate myself by reading stories of cancer patients. By doing that I realise I rather go with pssd and with a good ( might be negotiable hehe) possibility to heal long term. 

 

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Zeipii

Nice words as such. But having a total anhedonia and amotivation on top of this makes it impossible to get even the hope helping. Beside this hell I lost my family, job, capability to even get out of my home...

 

I have compared my state to eg. people with cancer and and unfortunately ended up that this is worse. In cancer you suffer terrible pain from a known reason, and you have a chance to really recover or die, and the status is quite well known. Here we are impaired with no proper knowledge of anything about the condition, no known cure, and no prognosis other than hundreds of sad stories. Believe, I have tried my best. If I "just" had pssd, it would be a bit easier. But basically existing as a body without soul and mental energy to even get out of your bed - you are not a human being any more. 

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2 minutes ago, Zeipii said:

Nice words as such. But having a total anhedonia and amotivation on top of this makes it impossible to get even the hope helping. Beside this hell I lost my family, job, capability to even get out of my home...

 

I have compared my state to eg. people with cancer and and unfortunately ended up that this is worse. In cancer you suffer terrible pain from a known reason, and you have a chance to really recover or die, and the status is quite well known. Here we are impaired with no proper knowledge of anything about the condition, no known cure, and no prognosis other than hundreds of sad stories. Believe, I have tried my best. If I "just" had pssd, it would be a bit easier. But basically existing as a body without soul and mental energy to even get out of your bed - you are not a human being any more. 

 Totally agree. I find myself jealous of street drug addicts, thats how bad it is..

 

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Exactly. And typically you heal out of even years or decades of heavy street drugs in a reasonable time. It is a known fact. But here, the brain and nervous system have been altered genetically, and time may bring no change. And you may only need a few days to get this happening to you. So no matter what admitting strategies, they will not help if you can't actually do the things listed in the original post. And I appreciate the text, but in my case there is no help even out of extreme attitude psyching and all willpower that can be still found. And I am not the only one. 

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And even the street drug addicts often with hard lives can feel moments of joy or high. It is a real reason to be actually envious, even if life prognosis and quality may be largely miserable. It has all been taken away at least for me. No activity, no substance gives me satisfaction or motivation any more. Having lost sexuality is one corner, but when the same applies for everything in life, there is really no feeling of life any more. 

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Spruce30

Yeah I have to agree a lot with Zeippi and Johnny peters. On a good day I can be semi philosophical about it, but a lot of the time I feel so beaten down and filled with rage at the injustice of this PSSD, that I just can't feel positive about anything.

 

No one up for talking to some pharmacists or doctors surgeries about PSSD then?

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9 hours ago, Zeipii said:

Nice words as such. But having a total anhedonia and amotivation on top of this makes it impossible to get even the hope helping. Beside this hell I lost my family, job, capability to even get out of my home...

 

I have compared my state to eg. people with cancer and and unfortunately ended up that this is worse. In cancer you suffer terrible pain from a known reason, and you have a chance to really recover or die, and the status is quite well known. Here we are impaired with no proper knowledge of anything about the condition, no known cure, and no prognosis other than hundreds of sad stories. Believe, I have tried my best. If I "just" had pssd, it would be a bit easier. But basically existing as a body without soul and mental energy to even get out of your bed - you are not a human being any more. 

It may be worse than cancer but you are diminishing your healing chances by refusing to accept that you are in this situation. 

 

 

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Sampo

I have had morning woods almost daily for six months before the last week. Suddenly I lost them at all. Have someone experienced same? I tried thc free hemp oil and after that the situation has been like this. I fear that it made my PSSD even worse.

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On 9/17/2018 at 8:41 AM, Spruce30 said:

That's a good perspective to take on PSSD Noloft.

 

Easier said than done though.

 

It is important to keep a certain amount of anger though and channel it into trying to bring about more awareness of the condition etc.

 

If more people became pro active in raising awareness about PSSD, then acceptance of the condition as a real condition by the medical establishment would happen a lot faster, which would be good for all PSSD sufferers.

 

I have personally spoken to about 110 pharmacies and doctors surgeries about PSSD already. I print off the Rxisk article on PSSD and travel to pharmacies and doctors surgeries talking to the pharmacists about PSSD, and asking the practice managers in the doctors surgeries to speak to the doctors about PSSD, and handing in the Rxisk article on PSSD. I then get the pharmacists and doctors surgeries to email Rxisk that they have received the information on PSSD.  If more people did this, then the word about PSSD would travel a lot faster, as most doctors and pharmacists are unaware of PSSD.

 

If anyone with PSSD is interested in being pro active about spreading awareness about PSSD, helping themselves and others with PSSD in the process, let me know and I can tell you how to do it.

 

 

Spruce,

 

I have been trying to convince the psych team I work with for my ocd that the medication did this to me to no avail. If you have any tips on convincing a doctor to change their beliefs I’m all ears. I would trust the doctors I’m working with a lot more if they would just freaking admit that’s hey, maybe these drugs did some damage to you. Instead of pulling the “we don’t know for sure” or we can’t tell for sure what happened or why” card. 

 

I don’t know how to make it any clearer to then that as soon as I tapered—as soon as I made a cut—sexual dysfunction happened. It’s incredibly irritating to not be validated. 

 

However, 

I am determined to ride this out for a long as it takes. If I can one day get a TASTE of normal sexual and mental functioning again, I will be THE HAPPIEST MAN ALIVE 

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Noloft
On 9/17/2018 at 1:40 PM, Zeipii said:

Exactly. And typically you heal out of even years or decades of heavy street drugs in a reasonable time. It is a known fact. But here, the brain and nervous system have been altered genetically, and time may bring no change. And you may only need a few days to get this happening to you. So no matter what admitting strategies, they will not help if you can't actually do the things listed in the original post. And I appreciate the text, but in my case there is no help even out of extreme attitude psyching and all willpower that can be still found. And I am not the only one. 

 

 

This is is just what you believe zeippi. If you believe you are hopeless, then you are. It is not the true reality of your situation it is just what is being distorted by your broken brain at the moment.

 

 

  Willpower isn’t something you just lose. Just because you don’t feel like you have any willpower doesn’t mean it’s not there. It might be damaged, but it is still there somewhere.

 

I have moments where I get stuck in the not feeling alive or human etc no will anymore etc. but then I have to question if that is truly the case then why am I still here? 

 

The fact that you are still on this forum talking to people suggests you still have your willpower, it just doesn’t currently feel like you think it should and it’s not being directed at things you normally would direct it at. If you can accept that for now maybe your willpower is a bit different than what it usually is maybe that might help you with your situation. 

 

I understand totally  where you are coming from though and it is a tough place to be in. 

 

Just my 2 cents. 

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I am sorry, I dont think I can and want to do much effort in explaining how much I disagree, but I have to say a few words. You maybe understand there are variable levels of pssd/anhedonia/amotivation/apathy, and you seem to have an easier case. You can not go into another persons situation. I have a very severe case of all these added by chronic insomnia with typically even 36-48 hours between any sleep. I have also lost my appetite totally as well as skin sensitivity in large part of my body, not just the genitals. All this since 18 months now, no change. I have been on disability from work all this time, and it is an achievement if I get myself to buy groceries once a week. 

 

It is not a matter of attitude. Every day I hope, believe and push myself to the limit. But even that does not help. I am not a person with a weak will. 

 

Here I mainly talk about anhedonia and amotivation. I could somehow survive without sex and the other symptoms, if there was any zest in life in general. Or if one single thing felt good. 

 

And what is there to accept? If you are in  deep suffering and you can not do anything for it, you are there. It is the reality. 

 

So with all respect, please do not jump into thinking what the other person goes through. Just respect anyone telling his/her own true story. 

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Zeipii

And no intention to be rude, but comparing to various cases I just seem to have a very severe case with all possible hellish symptoms. I hope and prey every minute that all sufferers will heal. Thats all I can do. 

 

Regarding the pdocs, I have met around 15 of them and none of them accept this to be meds caused. It is a universal lie they keep with big pharma. They know they have destroyed a lot of lives, but can not accept the psych meds and basically whole psychiatry is a hoax made in hell. Of couse not, because their jobs and money is all based on this lie. 

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Spruce30

Noloft. Print off the Rxisk page on PSSD (you can find it on the Rxisk website). Near the end of the PSSD article there are a number of pages with scientific studies on PSSD.

 

Print off the whole PSSD article on PSSD and highlight the studies with a highlighter and give it to your doctor to read.

 

If they still won't believe ask them to email the Dr Healy who runs the Rxisk organisation and is a professor of psychiatry.  Dr Healy's email is David.Healy (at symbol) rxisk.org (provided this way because of spam bots)

 

He can and will confirm that PSSD is real if they won't believe the article

 

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escitalopramsucks

Some new findings for the femenine symptoms of PSSD. It could be good. There isnt a medicine!! Its just the stimulation of a nerve and for the moment they obtained good results. 

 

http://www.elmundo.es/f5/descubre/2018/03/25/5ab3cb5f468aeb57668b463b.html

 

 

https://www.losreplicantes.com/articulos/viagra-femenino-descarga-electrica-tobillo-aumenta-deseo-sexual/

 

 

Translate to English, please. 

 

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Zeipii

Interesting, but why would it only work for women? 

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6 hours ago, escitalopramsucks said:

 

Please note:  I have not read through this.  All I have done is copied and pasted the translation.

 

Thanks to Google Translate (available in Chrome browser):

 

 

Female Viagra: an electric shock in the ankle increases sexual desire

Scientists at the University of Michigan have discovered that the tibial nerve is key to increasing women's sexual desires.

 

Neither the hotel nights of "romantiqueo", with flowers and aromas. Not even jacuzzi afternoons. Neither chocolate in the form of chocolates or the body (which here is a matter of taste). Not even preliminary games, or sex toys. Nothing compares, they say, to the new experiment discovered by scientists at the University of Michigan. These have found a key nerve in the bodies of women that can increase their sexual desire: the tibial nerve. It extends from the soles of the feet to the bottom of the spine, but is more accessible at the ankle.

This electricity delivery works in less than 30 minutes by sending blood to a woman's private parts , the tests show. As a result, women experience a mild tingling. Something that causes the same effect as Viagra to give a night of passion to all women with a lack of sexual desire. 

Women with a lack of libido  have nothing physically wrong with their genitals , that is, they can get excited and have sex, even reach orgasm, but they do not feel any motivation to have sex. The main problem is what is known as the " circuits of desire " inside your brain that do not ignite, neither for your partners nor even for your own fantasies. This lack of sexual appetite leads to frustration and increases the risk of anxiety and depression.

From bladder problems to increase sexual desire

This discovery has been almost unintentional, not to say, that has been pure chance. Scientists were treating patients with bladder problems when, without waiting, they claimed to have seen improvements in their sex lives. Something that scientists believe may be due to the fact that the tibial nerve is in contact with the nerves in the pelvis that lead to the spinal cord.

Arousal disorder

Some studies say that 10% of adult women have arousal disorder, but others report that it is as high as 28%. Therefore, a blow to the ankle can increase blood flow to a more intimate area, creating the same effect as a night of passion. It offers an alternative to drugs, which have mixed results and can have side effects. The same US researchers are conducting a trial with 30 women with the so-called arousal disorder.

The results are expected to be published later this year. Professor Tim Bruns, University of Michigan, is optimistic: " .. We're really hopeful If stimulation is repeated for three months, could lead to better blood flow and nerve to the ****** connections improve symptoms of the disorder of genital excitement . " For his part, Dr. Geoff Hackett, head of the British Society of Sexual Medicine, has applauded this new promise: " If it works, it could be profitable and more acceptable than drugs ."

Addyi, the pink pill

In the nineties, viagra was launched into the market as the remedy that would push men towards a virile future of the "most promising". And until 2015 its similar did not appear, but for them

 

With the trade name of Addyi is a drug, originating in antidepressants that acts on chemicals in the brain and not to activate blood flows , so it requires a continuous treatment, not punctual, in which the long list of contraindications can even overcome the benefits.

In fact, among the long list of contraindications that accompany the medication, is the strong warning against taking this pill with alcohol. Among the side effects are hypotension and even possible fainting . In addition, in more than 10% of cases, they have suffered dizziness, drowsiness, fatigue, insomnia or dry mouth. 

This medicine is not recommended and the above is yet to be seen. What we have clear is that if you are reading this, and you are a man, do not force your partner to increase his libido for your benefit. Support it 

 

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6 hours ago, escitalopramsucks said:

 

Please note:  I have not read through this.  All I have done is copied and pasted the translation.

 

Thanks to Google Translate (available in Chrome browser):

 

 

The natural Viagra for women that works with a discharge in the ankle

 

Does not need drugs and a weekly session is enough

 

Although it seems obvious, sexual dysfunction is not just a man's thing. In fact, according to some recent studies , 46% of women between 40 and 80 suffer from this type of problem. A percentage that, to the surprise of many, is 14% more than their male counterparts.

It is worth asking, then, how it is possible that almost everyone knows about the existence of drugs such as Viagra or Cialis , and practically no one is able to quote a single one specifically indicated for women. The answer is as disheartening as it is simple: because no laboratory has yet managed to find it.

The closest thing, until now, was the Addyi , the misnamed Pink Viagra . It is a drug whose active principle is flibanserin and which aims to raise the libido of women. Of course, unlike what happens with the blue pill, whose effects are guaranteed for one in five men , the incidence of erectile dysfunction in Spain, the use Addyi is much more restrictive.

It can only be consumed by women diagnosed with hypoactive sexual desire disorder (TDSH) who report emotional stress due to this lack of libido. That is, it only serves 10% of women , and as long as they have not entered menopause and consume it daily.

Despite the evident delay that medicine has been evidencing in everything concerning female sexuality, a ray of light seems to finally appear around the corner. The people in charge are a group of American scientists who recently discovered what the media of the whole world have not been slow to baptize as the female Viagra .

Nerve stimulation from the foot

Very shortly before it was 20 years after the start of the marketing of sildenafil , a team of researchers from the University of Michigan located a key nerve when it comes to increasing sexual desire in women: the tibial nerve, a branch of the nerve sciatica that extends from the sole of the feet to the lower part of the spine and to which, according to the Americans, it is very easily accessed from the ankle.

The finding, like so many others in the history of science, would come by chance. In this case, while trying to improve the quality of life of a series of patients with bladder problems. After a few experimental sessions stimulating the aforementioned nerve, what the volunteers agreed to report in unison was far from what the doctors expected . According to them, although they also began to notice how some of their bladder problems remitted, what they truly experienced after several sessions of small discharges in the tibial nerve was a huge improvement in the sexual arena.

And, as they would later prove in animals, with a minimal and controlled electric shock in the area of the ankle that abuts this nerve generates a body reaction very similar to that felt by men when taking Viagra. The reason that would explain why women who undergo this treatment feel such an obvious increase in desire could be due to the fact that the tibial nerve is in contact with nerves in the pelvis that lead to the spinal cord.

The increase in blood supply that would occur just after stimulating the nerve of yore would, then, be very similar to that experienced by men taking sildenafil. Hence, it is said that this treatment acts as a natural Viagra .

Half an hour a week

One of the most striking aspects that emerge from the first probatures is that a session of half an hour a week would be more than enough to ensure a substantial improvement in sexual relations to seven days view.

If the results of the study that is currently being carried out with dozens of patients with arousal disorder are favorable, those responsible for the project are convinced that we will soon see how female Viagra is a reality available to all women in the world. .

If everything goes according to the most optimistic forecasts, any woman, without needing to take any drug, will be able to enjoy her sexual life in less than a year . That is, at least, your objective.

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On 9/21/2018 at 2:15 AM, Zeipii said:

I am sorry, I dont think I can and want to do much effort in explaining how much I disagree, but I have to say a few words. You maybe understand there are variable levels of pssd/anhedonia/amotivation/apathy, and you seem to have an easier case. You can not go into another persons situation. I have a very severe case of all these added by chronic insomnia with typically even 36-48 hours between any sleep. I have also lost my appetite totally as well as skin sensitivity in large part of my body, not just the genitals. All this since 18 months now, no change. I have been on disability from work all this time, and it is an achievement if I get myself to buy groceries once a week. 

 

It is not a matter of attitude. Every day I hope, believe and push myself to the limit. But even that does not help. I am not a person with a weak will. 

 

Here I mainly talk about anhedonia and amotivation. I could somehow survive without sex and the other symptoms, if there was any zest in life in general. Or if one single thing felt good. 

 

And what is there to accept? If you are in  deep suffering and you can not do anything for it, you are there. It is the reality. 

 

So with all respect, please do not jump into thinking what the other person goes through. Just respect anyone telling his/her own true story. 

 

 

I assure you zeippi there is nothing EASY about the extent of my PSSD, anhedonia or emotional numbness. I am also living with depersonalization disorder.  I would say I am 99% emotionally numb and anhedonic and my sexual functioning is about 2% normal. I go four nights a week sometimes with no sleep. I have a multitudes of other symptoms. I force myself to go to work and engage in hobbies because I don’t want to look back in 40 years at a life of doing nothing even if I have to suffer through it. Even if you have to suffer through life you only get one life despite what has happened to you. I am choosing not to waste mine and doing the best I can to live a normal life in spite of all of this. 

 

All i am saying is that if you cannot find some kind of perceptive shift while you are going through this amount of suffering you’re not gonna be able to ease that suffering at all. 

 

I do not think you understand what acceptance means. Acceptance of suffering does not mean giving up or accepting you will suffer forever. It just means for now you aren’t well. FOR NOW. Accepting that for now things are messed up can help you get some space and distance from what you are going through. 

 

 

I am am in an indescribable amount of misery but i have shifted my

perspective a bit and it has helped me, so I posted that here to see if it helps anyone else. 

 

Rest assured I am not trying to have a suffering competition. No one is winning on this forum in terms of suffering. All I was trying to say was maybe a shift in perspective can help. 

 

 

I do not see my original posts as having been rude or disrespectful of your pain. I am simply trying to offer you another way of dealing with it. 

 

 

 

 

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ChessieCat
2 hours ago, Noloft said:

I do not see my original posts as having been rude or disrespectful of your pain. I am simply trying to offer you another way of dealing with it. 

 

Noloft, your posts have been thoughtfully written.  They are not rude or disrespectful.

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frasier23
On 9/19/2018 at 3:57 PM, Sampo said:

I have had morning woods almost daily for six months before the last week. Suddenly I lost them at all. Have someone experienced same? I tried thc free hemp oil and after that the situation has been like this. I fear that it made my PSSD even worse.

@Sampo. I think/hope Im on my way to recovery. I also have short periods of morning wood etc. Sometimes 1 week then nothing for a while. Strength is getting a little better. Are you having season variations? I take no supplements just good food and exercise.

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India
On 9/21/2018 at 6:26 AM, Noloft said:

I have been trying to convince the psych team I work with for my ocd that the medication did this to me to no avail. If you have any tips on convincing a doctor to change their beliefs I’m all ears. I

They cannot admit it because then they admit their negligence, their harm. Hannah Arendt, the German philosopher called it "the banality of evil" after eichmann said of authorising Hitler's final solution, "I was just following orders".  I'm sorry everyone is going through this. 

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