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For me personally PSSD is inability to have sexual thoughts. I was very sexually active guy before I quit Sertraline. While I was on it I hadn't any sexual side effects except it took more time to get orgasm but it didn't bother me at all. After few months when I stoped taking it first time sexual side effects started. I didn't have blunted emotions yet but I had still PSSD! When I started taking Sertralin again sexual side effects weren't so bad as when I was without the drug first time. When I quit Sertraline finally it took few months to got blunted emotions also. So I think that the whole truth isn't in my case that emotional blunting and PSSD go hand in hand.

 

I can get erections but they aren't as strong as before and I ejaculate premature if I have sex. If I masturbate its sometimes hard to ejaculate at all. I don't have natural intrests both of those activities anymore. I don't want sex, I just trying to have sexuality. Do this sound familiar to you?

 

My scrotum feel cold and when I urinate it feels like that bladder don't empty fully and pressure is very slow. So thats why I think that maybe there is some area in my brain which don't work properly and causes the part of sexual dysfunction even if I could be able to feel emotions normally in the future.

I'm not a native english speaker, sorry!

 

My history with Sertraline:

 

November 2009 - September 2013: most of the time my dose was 100 mg but when I stoped taking it first time my dose was 25 mg.

 

Unfornately I decided to start taking Sertraline again in April 2014. My new dose was 50 mg.

I took my last pill of Sertraline in November 2014. Then my dose was 25 mg.

 

Symptoms: PSSD, anhedonia and emotional anesthesia

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For me personally PSSD is inability to have sexual thoughts. I was very sexually active guy before I quit Sertraline. While I was on it I hadn't any sexual side effects except it took more time to get orgasm but it didn't bother me at all. After few months when I stoped taking it first time sexual side effects started. I didn't have blunted emotions yet but I had still PSSD! When I started taking Sertralin again sexual side effects weren't so bad as when I was without the drug first time. When I quit Sertraline finally it took few months to got blunted emotions also. So I think that the whole truth isn't in my case that emotional blunting and PSSD go hand in hand.

 

I can get erections but they aren't as strong as before and I ejaculate premature if I have sex. If I masturbate its sometimes hard to ejaculate at all. I don't have natural intrests both of those activities anymore. I don't want sex, I just trying to have sexuality. Do this sound familiar to you?

 

My scrotum feel cold and when I urinate it feels like that bladder don't empty fully and pressure is very slow. So thats why I think that maybe there is some area in my brain which don't work properly and causes the part of sexual dysfunction even if I could be able to feel emotions normally in the future.

 

This sexual anesthesia is extremely common, both in the brain and in the genitalia themselves.  :(

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 I don't have natural intrests both of those activities anymore. I don't want sex, I just trying to have sexuality. Do this sound familiar to you?

Very familiar...

About me ------------------------ College student with a history of anxiety, excessive worrying and health anxiety.

April 2014 - May 2015----------    Prozac 20mg On and Off.  Second time on it I developed apathy, changes in personality, asexuality.

May 2015  -   July 2015-----------------  Tappering off prozac. Still no feelings,anhedonia, apathy, no libido, asexuality.

Current symptoms--------  pssd (asexuality in my case). Anxiety and depression developed some months afer stopping prozac, could have been caused by obsessing and beating myself up too much when I found myself unable to like girls again. The best thing to do with pssd (which in my case is asexuality) is accept it and move on.

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Here is another success story with a recovery from pssd after 2.5 years of having it and with no drugs or supplements to fix it.

 

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/554388-SSRIs-and-libido-there-is-hope!?highlight=SSRIs+libido

About me ------------------------ College student with a history of anxiety, excessive worrying and health anxiety.

April 2014 - May 2015----------    Prozac 20mg On and Off.  Second time on it I developed apathy, changes in personality, asexuality.

May 2015  -   July 2015-----------------  Tappering off prozac. Still no feelings,anhedonia, apathy, no libido, asexuality.

Current symptoms--------  pssd (asexuality in my case). Anxiety and depression developed some months afer stopping prozac, could have been caused by obsessing and beating myself up too much when I found myself unable to like girls again. The best thing to do with pssd (which in my case is asexuality) is accept it and move on.

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If I had just PSSD it could be easier to belive that I will recover. But unfornately I have other syptoms too so its hard to stay positive some times because most of time I don't feel human being at all. Its hard that I can't even cry even if I have almost lost myself! If you know people who have lost their emotions and get them back and their sexuality also please tell me! I have read few of stories that people have beaten anhedonia and PSSD but I feel that my situation is much worse because I have so bad emotional anesthesia too. :( I feel like I'm a stranger from the space for example when I see a kissing couple.

I'm not a native english speaker, sorry!

 

My history with Sertraline:

 

November 2009 - September 2013: most of the time my dose was 100 mg but when I stoped taking it first time my dose was 25 mg.

 

Unfornately I decided to start taking Sertraline again in April 2014. My new dose was 50 mg.

I took my last pill of Sertraline in November 2014. Then my dose was 25 mg.

 

Symptoms: PSSD, anhedonia and emotional anesthesia

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If I had just PSSD it could be easier to belive that I will recover. But unfornately I have other syptoms too so its hard to stay positive some times because most of time I don't feel human being at all. Its hard that I can't even cry even if I have almost lost myself! If you know people who have lost their emotions and get them back and their sexuality also please tell me! I have read few of stories that people have beaten anhedonia and PSSD but I feel that my situation is much worse because I have so bad emotional anesthesia too. :( I feel like I'm a stranger from the space for example when I see a kissing couple.

 

I have these symptoms as well - we're together in this, my friend.  It's a cruel existence - feels like a portion of my brain has been severed.

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Ghost, I appreciate your Knowledge about our problems. I have a question: if there are epigenetic changes in the brain how you explain that I got PSSD and anhedonia after the fifth time I used a SSRI? My sexuality was returning to normal  2-3 days  after the cessation. And there are many stories like mine. Should be a certain predisposition, or not? Οn the other hand there are people who suffer from PSSD after few pills. How can you explain the theory about desensitization of 5ht1a receptor in these cases? I agree with you, it's not  withdrawl, and personally I believe there are not many changes for natural recovery. I still hope I am wrong.It's hard to accept that but we must see the fact. Recently I started to think the only choice I have is experiments with drugs. Sorry for my English.

4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems.

Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg)

After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD.

 

xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg.       taper september 2014 from 1.5mg.  

current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM)

 

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Let's clear some things up: "Epigenetic" means environment affects how your body functions. There are internal epigenetic changes constantly -- after you drink coffee, for example. Then the effect of the coffee wears off and your body goes through another epigenetic change.

 

It's a fancy word for "your body adapts to whatever you put in it, on it, or around it."

 

Effects of psychiatric drugs are cumulative and appear to be wearing on the nervous system. One drug acting on one receptor might have a particular effect when you are 20. Three drugs later, another drug acting on the same receptor may have a different effect.

 

No one receptor is responsible for PSSD. That's not how the nervous system and body work, it's an interdependent web of connections, not distinct circuits.

 

These theories that X receptor is responsible for Y result are extremely simplistic. Hot air is what the Internet is made of, so you'll find plenty of it out there. I wish there was less of it here.

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Let's clear some things up: "Epigenetic" means environment affects how your body functions. There are internal epigenetic changes constantly -- after you drink coffee, for example. Then the effect of the coffee wears off and your body goes through another epigenetic change.

 

It's a fancy word for "your body adapts to whatever you put in it, on it, or around it."

 

Effects of psychiatric drugs are cumulative and appear to be wearing on the nervous system. One drug acting on one receptor might have a particular effect when you are 20. Three drugs later, another drug acting on the same receptor may have a different effect.

 

No one receptor is responsible for PSSD. That's not how the nervous system and body work, it's an interdependent web of connections, not distinct circuits.

 

These theories that X receptor is responsible for Y result are extremely simplistic. Hot air is what the Internet is made of, so you'll find plenty of it out there. I wish there was less of it here.

I totally agree with this. The more I read the more I realize that I don't know. 15 serotonin receptors, and each plays a different role in each part of the brain it is in. Not only that, but there are countless downstream pathways for each of these. Finally, we all took different drugs at different ages for different conditions.

 

Ricardo, Everything in the body is always changing. Life is very fluid, and never stands still. Things change permanently everyday. It's impossible to currently determine why or how. Almost anything can be considered a drug, because even food creates glucose which is changing expression of genes. I think that we are just stuck. The best that we can do is find trends and track them to their source. Things start to fall into place. The 5ht1a receptor theory cannot be shown correct with one line of evidence. Instead, you need many independent tests implicating it. I believe that I have found some, but am always finding more. Ex: The POA of the Hypothalamus controls heat regulation. A lot of PSSD patients have temperature regulation problems. Then you look and see that Dorsal Raphe 5HT1a Serotonin Cells innervate the POA. It's not enough alone to say much, but keep adding it to your research pile, and you can start seeing trends. The farther you dig, you find more and more puzzles, some having no end as you reach the edge of scientific knowledge. That's the best way I'd explain my theory. There are so many things that could go wrong that I couldn't say what is the cause. There is only one thing that I would bet my life on: Something disinhibited the Dorsal Raphe Nuclei Somatodendritic Autoreceptors (For sure 5ht1a), and that is causing a lot of problems.

Escitalopram 5mg 4 days Sept 14'

Adderal 1mg (Very Rarely Taken) (Not since Fall '14)

Trazodone 50mg: 1 week in Sept '14. Few days Dec 14'. 3 days Jan '16.

Experience with: St. John's Wort, Turmeric, Zinc, Inositol, Ginkgo

 

"I don't want to believe. I want to know" - Carl Sagan

 

Admin on www.pssdforum.com "Ghost"-----Moderator for PSSD subreddit  "GhostPSSD" (reddit.com/r/PSSD)

My Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9564-gh0sts-escitalopram-wd/

My PSSD Theory: reddit.com/r/PSSD/comments/46b4w1/ghost_pssd_article/

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Thanks GhOst for your time. Υοur comment is hopeless but its  true and  reflects the fact. The problem we have is 100 years far from  the current science.I am afraid  we are stuck forever.

4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems.

Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg)

After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD.

 

xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg.       taper september 2014 from 1.5mg.  

current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM)

 

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Dear Friends,

 

I´m coping with too muvh stress and depression lately due to PSSD and my fears of not recovering, something that I share with a great amount of people here.

 

I´m trying to not going back to antidepressants and it is being very hard... as I have comment before I´m missing them so much as I am not sometimes strong enough to work, socialize and do normal tasks.

 

I have been looking for solutions for copying with depression and stress and I wanna share with you something that has helped me a bit,

 

MAGNESIUM. It happen to me that I wake up extremly anxious in the middle of the night and if I get to sleep again I wake up again. Well... even if its not a sleeping pill magnesium helps a bit.

The one I bought was CHLORIDE of Mangnesium and I take 300 mg/day: one during lunch, another in the middle of the afternoon and the last before going to sleep.

 

I have been looking something natural for depression but it´s hard to find. I don´t know if it will works but it seems that L-Theanine can help with that.Even if it is natural it scares me that it is said that increases dopamine and serotonine.

 

Do you have any idea if it can be harmful or interfering the process of healing from PSSD?

 

Thanks you

 

 

There is some advice in that thread, but i would like to know specifically if this can interfere with the chemical balance of the brain and therefore recovery from PSSD

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1032-l-theanine-for-anxiety-insomnia/

PROBLEM. PSSD 
Symptons:- 1 Not arousal, not libido: the sensation of "I could live without sex" - 2 I can get orgasms but they are much weaker. -3 I have noticed that my breast  don´t get swollen before menstruation (This has improved) -4  Lack of vaginal discharge (this has improved)- 5 Barely absence of vaginal odour
Induced by In Escitalopram 1 year and two months
Begining:10 mg per day -Jun 2013 to May 2013-
Reduce to 10 gr every two days - Jun 2013 to Aug 2013

Eventually quit on September 2013.

Slight Improvements. Window:  3 days on August 2015

WHY STARTING WITH IT?Great general anxiety that Esc. cured . Novemb 2015 anxiety hasd returned
Natural suplements or herbs you are having?: 1500 mg oil fish omega 3 daily since 28/1/2014.

 

December 15. 0,5-1 gr lorazepam per day. 

"if you come up with any good ideas, please let me know"

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Thanks GhOst for your time. Υοur comment is hopeless but its  true and  reflects the fact. The problem we have is 100 years far from  the current science.I am afraid  we are stuck forever.

I wouldn't say hopeless, just a few years off. A lot of the knowledge is there, but very few with the education to pull it together have been motivated to do so. I honestly think we'll need a few researchers with PSSD to really dig into it. People who are quite motivated to resolve the puzzle. I'm planning on being one of them.

 

I really hope that I'm far past this all at that point however. Regardless, PSSD is something that I would never forget. 

Escitalopram 5mg 4 days Sept 14'

Adderal 1mg (Very Rarely Taken) (Not since Fall '14)

Trazodone 50mg: 1 week in Sept '14. Few days Dec 14'. 3 days Jan '16.

Experience with: St. John's Wort, Turmeric, Zinc, Inositol, Ginkgo

 

"I don't want to believe. I want to know" - Carl Sagan

 

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My Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9564-gh0sts-escitalopram-wd/

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Just because we won't understand PSSD in the near future doesn't mean it can't be treatable or made better.

For instance, acute intake of cialis + yohimbine makes my PSSD 80% better for at least an hour.

Unfortunately I can't take PDE5 inhibitors due to my very bad eyesight, it's too much of a risk. And yohimbine is also not a pleasant substance to take in the required dosage for PSSD (makes one jittery and anxious).

Still, it makes me feel better knowing that there are 2 substances that allow me to enjoy sex intensely as before-SSRIS. I had an awesome sex life with a girl post-SSRIs thanks to those 2 drugs.

 

For the time being I'm not interested in experimenting with more drugs.

But who knows if someday I can find something that can substitute yohimbine without the side effects and combine it with caverject, for instance.

September 2011 - 75 mg Effexor, 15 mg Mirtazapine
September 2012 - CT. Developed PSSD (mostly erectile dysfunction and diminished enjoyment of sex).
January 2016 - Symptoms persist, no improvements. In fact, things seem worse now than they were in the first year.

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Just because we won't understand PSSD in the near future doesn't mean it can't be treatable or made better.

 

For instance, acute intake of cialis + yohimbine makes my PSSD 80% better for at least an hour.

 

Unfortunately I can't take PDE5 inhibitors due to my very bad eyesight, it's too much of a risk. And yohimbine is also not a pleasant substance to take in the required dosage for PSSD (makes one jittery and anxious).

 

Still, it makes me feel better knowing that there are 2 substances that allow me to enjoy sex intensely as before-SSRIS. I had an awesome sex life with a girl post-SSRIs thanks to those 2 drugs.

 

For the time being I'm not interested in experimenting with more drugs.

 

But who knows if someday I can find something that can substitute yohimbine without the side effects and combine it with caverject, for instance.

Oh for sure. There are many things that we can work with. It's actually a good way of finding out what is wrong: Yohimbine is a 5-HT1a Agonist among other things. I've never tried it, but have heard good things.

Escitalopram 5mg 4 days Sept 14'

Adderal 1mg (Very Rarely Taken) (Not since Fall '14)

Trazodone 50mg: 1 week in Sept '14. Few days Dec 14'. 3 days Jan '16.

Experience with: St. John's Wort, Turmeric, Zinc, Inositol, Ginkgo

 

"I don't want to believe. I want to know" - Carl Sagan

 

Admin on www.pssdforum.com "Ghost"-----Moderator for PSSD subreddit  "GhostPSSD" (reddit.com/r/PSSD)

My Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9564-gh0sts-escitalopram-wd/

My PSSD Theory: reddit.com/r/PSSD/comments/46b4w1/ghost_pssd_article/

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Appleofsodom, can you please share with us the dosage you have been taking for cialis and yohimbe. I myself sufferer of pssd for over years and recently entered into a relationship. Desperately need something that will work.

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Discussion of drugs is frowned upon in this forum, hit me with a pvt message.

September 2011 - 75 mg Effexor, 15 mg Mirtazapine
September 2012 - CT. Developed PSSD (mostly erectile dysfunction and diminished enjoyment of sex).
January 2016 - Symptoms persist, no improvements. In fact, things seem worse now than they were in the first year.

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Just because we won't understand PSSD in the near future doesn't mean it can't be treatable or made better.

 

For instance, acute intake of cialis + yohimbine makes my PSSD 80% better for at least an hour.

 

Unfortunately I can't take PDE5 inhibitors due to my very bad eyesight, it's too much of a risk. And yohimbine is also not a pleasant substance to take in the required dosage for PSSD (makes one jittery and anxious).

 

Still, it makes me feel better knowing that there are 2 substances that allow me to enjoy sex intensely as before-SSRIS. I had an awesome sex life with a girl post-SSRIs thanks to those 2 drugs.

 

For the time being I'm not interested in experimenting with more drugs.

 

But who knows if someday I can find something that can substitute yohimbine without the side effects and combine it with caverject, for instance.

Oh for sure. There are many things that we can work with. It's actually a good way of finding out what is wrong: Yohimbine is a 5-HT1a Agonist among other things. I've never tried it, but have heard good things.

 

 

How'd your inositol experiment go, Ghost?

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Oskcajga,

 

It [inositol] went well. Definitely helped. I had to stop for 2 reasons.

 

1) It's expensive, and I'm a broke college student.

2) It has been strongly implicating in worsening ADD while you are on it. I already have ADD, and making it worse was unacceptable because I needed to take tests and preform well in school. I found myself having to taper down to low doses before Exams so often that I didn't think I was getting the whole effect.

 

It helped with erections, sensation, and ejaculation strength. One day I was able to have sex 4 times without much problem at all. Ejaculation strength seems to have stayed better after I quit it. I'm definitely going to try it again in the future when I have a break from hard classes. I was never able to give it a full go.

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Escitalopram 5mg 4 days Sept 14'

Adderal 1mg (Very Rarely Taken) (Not since Fall '14)

Trazodone 50mg: 1 week in Sept '14. Few days Dec 14'. 3 days Jan '16.

Experience with: St. John's Wort, Turmeric, Zinc, Inositol, Ginkgo

 

"I don't want to believe. I want to know" - Carl Sagan

 

Admin on www.pssdforum.com "Ghost"-----Moderator for PSSD subreddit  "GhostPSSD" (reddit.com/r/PSSD)

My Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9564-gh0sts-escitalopram-wd/

My PSSD Theory: reddit.com/r/PSSD/comments/46b4w1/ghost_pssd_article/

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What did Alto just say in post #305.

 

"Please discuss drugs on the PSSD sites. We cannot recommend any drugs for PSSD. Experimenting with them may be harmful."

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

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What did Alto just say in post #305.

 

"Please discuss drugs on the PSSD sites. We cannot recommend any drugs for PSSD. Experimenting with them may be harmful."

I think he was talking about "cialis + yohimbine". Inositol isn't a "drug". It's a naturally occurring sugar in your body.

 

Further, Alto had moved some posts about Inositol from Osk and I here before. Is this no longer an acceptable place to follow up our conversation?

Escitalopram 5mg 4 days Sept 14'

Adderal 1mg (Very Rarely Taken) (Not since Fall '14)

Trazodone 50mg: 1 week in Sept '14. Few days Dec 14'. 3 days Jan '16.

Experience with: St. John's Wort, Turmeric, Zinc, Inositol, Ginkgo

 

"I don't want to believe. I want to know" - Carl Sagan

 

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Gh0st, from the context it looked like you were continuing the discussion of the drug combination. I have restored your post.

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Oskcajga,

 

It [inositol] went well. Definitely helped. I had to stop for 2 reasons.

 

1) It's expensive, and I'm a broke college student.

2) It has been strongly implicating in worsening ADD while you are on it. I already have ADD, and making it worse was unacceptable because I needed to take tests and preform well in school. I found myself having to taper down to low doses before Exams so often that I didn't think I was getting the whole effect.

 

It helped with erections, sensation, and ejaculation strength. One day I was able to have sex 4 times without much problem at all. Ejaculation strength seems to have stayed better after I quit it. I'm definitely going to try it again in the future when I have a break from hard classes. I was never able to give it a full go.

 

Sounds like a fairly effective remedy for you.  In my case, it gave me horrible headaches and made my symptoms worse for days.  I think inositol is a very powerful substance, and people who are hypersensitive need to be very careful with that stuff.

 

Those other prescription/recreational drugs are probably even more potent - and definitely should be avoided by anyone hypersensitive (maybe anyone in general - it's a huge risk).  Having good sex is NOT worth having a psycotic break and being bedridden because of severely exacerbated symptoms.

 

this is a very tricky condition to "treat" because along with PSSD can come hypersensitive peripheral/central nervous systems - making quick fix drug remedies absolutely disastrous for some people. I've read at least one post from someone who tried numerous strategies and "quick fixes" for PSSD - and claims to have permanently damaged his sexual function.

 

so for those reading this thread:   Please be careful with PSSD "fixes" - be VERY careful. 

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yes, oskcajga...But it seems that the "time solution" doensn't work or works for few (almost minimal percentage ) people. I 've seen 1-2 FULL (without "sauces'') recovery stories in whole internet. The theory that people recover from this and they don't write again on the web about this is nonsense for me. I can't imagine one human  who get through this, he recovered and ...simply disappeared after the recovery. Come on guys, this is the truth and we MUST  see the truth. Drugs maybe is the only way for some people to hope.

4 times on SSRI'S in the past, I have never had such serious problems.

Septemper 2013-November 2013: Paxil (60mg)

After discontinuation (cold turkey):anhedonia, severe emotional anesthisia, severe PSSD.

 

xanax: daily use for 4.5 years at doses 0.5 mg -1.5mg.       taper september 2014 from 1.5mg.  

current dose: 0.87,5 mg.(8AM, 2PM, 8PM, 00-01AM)

 

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I recovered from pssd admittedly it took years but it is possible.

 

I will be honest the vast majority of people who recover from withdrawal off these drugs don't return to sites such as this as they fear they will start to relive the hell they went through all over again and basically want to move forward and forget it ever happened.And can you blame them?

 

I myself was told not to bother as you will be ignored or treated with suspicion if you start telling people you have fully recovered off ssris with no lasting problems especially off those who believe all the so called studies that have been done that basically conclude that it is impossible to recover with no lasting permanent damage off these drugs.

 

Tell you what I dropped from 60mgs to 0 inside of 4 months off seroxat on the final week of quitting seroxat I also quit cannabis, alcohol, nicotine and caffeine.

 

Now Google all the withdrawal symptoms I would go through off all of this and see what the scientific community would say of my chances of not only surviving this ,but coming through with no permanent damage.

 

From what I have read I should be dead but I am still here and thats my point just because the Internet says something it aint ******* true!!

 

I am not having a go at anyone in this post I just know if you believe all the crap on the Internet then you have no chance of ever recovering there might well be some cases of people who have never recovered but just because it's happened to them does not make it set in stone regardless of the studies done

 

All I can say is I have been through 6 years of protracted withdrawal suffering from every symptom going it's been hell and cost me a lot but I recovered with no lasting damage .

 

Its up to yourselves believe all the studies off people who want to make a name for themselves within the scientific community or widen your gaze and listen to people who have actually been there

 

And no I don't work for a drug company before anyone asks I just know that the desperation of withdrawal can have you believing scientific based studies and thinking you will never recover.

 

Just remember according to these studies years ago ssris were safe and a medical break through and withdrawing off them was not a problem

I was perscribed seroxat for ptsd and agoraphobia in 1997

Dosage soon went to 60mgs per day

2009 started a uninformed taper and dropped from 60mgs to 0 in just under 4 months

Went into protracted withdrawal

Now 6 years on I am at least 95% recovered

Symptoms left which come and go are depersonalisation and emotional numbness

 

But nothing serious

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"all the so called studies that have been done that basically conclude that it is impossible to recover with no lasting permanent damage off these drugs."

? You're just making things up.

September 2011 - 75 mg Effexor, 15 mg Mirtazapine
September 2012 - CT. Developed PSSD (mostly erectile dysfunction and diminished enjoyment of sex).
January 2016 - Symptoms persist, no improvements. In fact, things seem worse now than they were in the first year.

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yes, oskcajga...But it seems that the "time solution" doensn't work or works for few (almost minimal percentage ) people. I 've seen 1-2 FULL (without "sauces'') recovery stories in whole internet. The theory that people recover from this and they don't write again on the web about this is nonsense for me. I can't imagine one human  who get through this, he recovered and ...simply disappeared after the recovery. Come on guys, this is the truth and we MUST  see the truth.

 

I have seen much more than two full recovery stories, here you have two 

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/554388-SSRIs-and-libido-there-is-hope!?highlight=SSRIs+libido

http://www.depressionforums.org/forums/topic/52393-curing-pssd-getting-off-all-meds-and-feeling-fantastic/

 

In this website you have some more.

 

Changing the subject, has anybody tried serious meditation (daily and doing it with dedication) to treat pssd and the anhedonia that goes with it? I personally think it can be very useful as it is scientifically proven that it makes real changes in the brain and increase neuro-plasticity.

About me ------------------------ College student with a history of anxiety, excessive worrying and health anxiety.

April 2014 - May 2015----------    Prozac 20mg On and Off.  Second time on it I developed apathy, changes in personality, asexuality.

May 2015  -   July 2015-----------------  Tappering off prozac. Still no feelings,anhedonia, apathy, no libido, asexuality.

Current symptoms--------  pssd (asexuality in my case). Anxiety and depression developed some months afer stopping prozac, could have been caused by obsessing and beating myself up too much when I found myself unable to like girls again. The best thing to do with pssd (which in my case is asexuality) is accept it and move on.

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From the yahoo group: The recruitment for the PSSD study ends at the 8th of January 2015.

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Good morning,

 

I'm trying to find replacements for the lorazepam I'm lately having. I'm scared. It is killing the little remaining of capacity for sex I still had.

I have seen along the threads that l-theanine has a big good impact in anxiety and helps quite a lot but when I read about how it works it a cares me even more than the benzo lorazepam because it is said it plays with dopamine.. serotonin.. more or less the same that our lovely SSRIs made in our brains.

 

This question is for Alto and the people who have a more scientific view of the problem.

 

Could you tell me if.in your opinion L theanine could be an added problem for.pssd?

 

Some.people have reported pssd caused by 5htp... SJ herb... and I want to avoid more disasters.

PROBLEM. PSSD 
Symptons:- 1 Not arousal, not libido: the sensation of "I could live without sex" - 2 I can get orgasms but they are much weaker. -3 I have noticed that my breast  don´t get swollen before menstruation (This has improved) -4  Lack of vaginal discharge (this has improved)- 5 Barely absence of vaginal odour
Induced by In Escitalopram 1 year and two months
Begining:10 mg per day -Jun 2013 to May 2013-
Reduce to 10 gr every two days - Jun 2013 to Aug 2013

Eventually quit on September 2013.

Slight Improvements. Window:  3 days on August 2015

WHY STARTING WITH IT?Great general anxiety that Esc. cured . Novemb 2015 anxiety hasd returned
Natural suplements or herbs you are having?: 1500 mg oil fish omega 3 daily since 28/1/2014.

 

December 15. 0,5-1 gr lorazepam per day. 

"if you come up with any good ideas, please let me know"

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PROBLEM. PSSD 
Symptons:- 1 Not arousal, not libido: the sensation of "I could live without sex" - 2 I can get orgasms but they are much weaker. -3 I have noticed that my breast  don´t get swollen before menstruation (This has improved) -4  Lack of vaginal discharge (this has improved)- 5 Barely absence of vaginal odour
Induced by In Escitalopram 1 year and two months
Begining:10 mg per day -Jun 2013 to May 2013-
Reduce to 10 gr every two days - Jun 2013 to Aug 2013

Eventually quit on September 2013.

Slight Improvements. Window:  3 days on August 2015

WHY STARTING WITH IT?Great general anxiety that Esc. cured . Novemb 2015 anxiety hasd returned
Natural suplements or herbs you are having?: 1500 mg oil fish omega 3 daily since 28/1/2014.

 

December 15. 0,5-1 gr lorazepam per day. 

"if you come up with any good ideas, please let me know"

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PROBLEM. PSSD 
Symptons:- 1 Not arousal, not libido: the sensation of "I could live without sex" - 2 I can get orgasms but they are much weaker. -3 I have noticed that my breast  don´t get swollen before menstruation (This has improved) -4  Lack of vaginal discharge (this has improved)- 5 Barely absence of vaginal odour
Induced by In Escitalopram 1 year and two months
Begining:10 mg per day -Jun 2013 to May 2013-
Reduce to 10 gr every two days - Jun 2013 to Aug 2013

Eventually quit on September 2013.

Slight Improvements. Window:  3 days on August 2015

WHY STARTING WITH IT?Great general anxiety that Esc. cured . Novemb 2015 anxiety hasd returned
Natural suplements or herbs you are having?: 1500 mg oil fish omega 3 daily since 28/1/2014.

 

December 15. 0,5-1 gr lorazepam per day. 

"if you come up with any good ideas, please let me know"

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Why I'm I getting symptoms of PSSD when I stopped taking any med for about 4 months.

Short Term Case: 7 pill of 10 mg of Modafinil in a 3 month span, but last 3 I took back to back causing severe withdrawals, lasting 3 weeks. Than 2 pills lexapro to help withdrawal lead to more withdrawal.  I have most symptoms Pssd, emotional loss, cognitive issues, nerve damage in legs.  Also 2 benzodiazepines.  Not much to damage me long term...

 

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PROBLEM. PSSD 
Symptons:- 1 Not arousal, not libido: the sensation of "I could live without sex" - 2 I can get orgasms but they are much weaker. -3 I have noticed that my breast  don´t get swollen before menstruation (This has improved) -4  Lack of vaginal discharge (this has improved)- 5 Barely absence of vaginal odour
Induced by In Escitalopram 1 year and two months
Begining:10 mg per day -Jun 2013 to May 2013-
Reduce to 10 gr every two days - Jun 2013 to Aug 2013

Eventually quit on September 2013.

Slight Improvements. Window:  3 days on August 2015

WHY STARTING WITH IT?Great general anxiety that Esc. cured . Novemb 2015 anxiety hasd returned
Natural suplements or herbs you are having?: 1500 mg oil fish omega 3 daily since 28/1/2014.

 

December 15. 0,5-1 gr lorazepam per day. 

"if you come up with any good ideas, please let me know"

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How ssris kill love (Helen Fisher)

 

http://www.ted.com/talks/helen_fisher_studies_the_brain_in_love?language=es

 

I want to recover my old self

PROBLEM. PSSD 
Symptons:- 1 Not arousal, not libido: the sensation of "I could live without sex" - 2 I can get orgasms but they are much weaker. -3 I have noticed that my breast  don´t get swollen before menstruation (This has improved) -4  Lack of vaginal discharge (this has improved)- 5 Barely absence of vaginal odour
Induced by In Escitalopram 1 year and two months
Begining:10 mg per day -Jun 2013 to May 2013-
Reduce to 10 gr every two days - Jun 2013 to Aug 2013

Eventually quit on September 2013.

Slight Improvements. Window:  3 days on August 2015

WHY STARTING WITH IT?Great general anxiety that Esc. cured . Novemb 2015 anxiety hasd returned
Natural suplements or herbs you are having?: 1500 mg oil fish omega 3 daily since 28/1/2014.

 

December 15. 0,5-1 gr lorazepam per day. 

"if you come up with any good ideas, please let me know"

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PROBLEM. PSSD 
Symptons:- 1 Not arousal, not libido: the sensation of "I could live without sex" - 2 I can get orgasms but they are much weaker. -3 I have noticed that my breast  don´t get swollen before menstruation (This has improved) -4  Lack of vaginal discharge (this has improved)- 5 Barely absence of vaginal odour
Induced by In Escitalopram 1 year and two months
Begining:10 mg per day -Jun 2013 to May 2013-
Reduce to 10 gr every two days - Jun 2013 to Aug 2013

Eventually quit on September 2013.

Slight Improvements. Window:  3 days on August 2015

WHY STARTING WITH IT?Great general anxiety that Esc. cured . Novemb 2015 anxiety hasd returned
Natural suplements or herbs you are having?: 1500 mg oil fish omega 3 daily since 28/1/2014.

 

December 15. 0,5-1 gr lorazepam per day. 

"if you come up with any good ideas, please let me know"

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