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i still dont have better days, but i can sleep without my pill, but i  still take it when its time. for bed..

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250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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sitting waiting for 1am

 

This doesn't make any sense. You want to train your natural sleep cycle to start earlier than 1 a.m.

 

You might even move the mirtazapine back to 10 p.m. and get into a much more natural rhythm. You may wake at 5 a.m. for a while. Your sleep cycle will normalize after a while.

 

Darkening your bedroom with blackout shades and blinds and using a sleep mask may assist you in sleeping past 5 a.m.

 

I believe that's all I can suggest about making your sleep better, the rest is up to you.

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22 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

This doesn't make any sense. You want to train your natural sleep cycle to start earlier than 1 a.m.

 

You might even move the mirtazapine back to 10 p.m. and get into a much more natural rhythm. You may wake at 5 a.m. for a while. Your sleep cycle will normalize after a while.

 

Darkening your bedroom with blackout shades and blinds and using a sleep mask may assist you in sleeping past 5 a.m.

 

I believe that's all I can suggest about making your sleep better, the rest is up to you.

i did took my pill the other night at 12 45am, when i said 1 a.m i was talking laying in  bed and wait for 1 a.m , i stopped doing that, i was just letting you know how i was doing it.... last night i when up to 12am and fell asleep quickly  but also i woke at 4am  less than the 6 hours, but i will continue to take it before 1 am.

 

i also wants to do a detox, is there a link on detoxing i tried looking but i cant find any thread on this site...

theres a site in california that sells mr sebi products, the  site is sebi.com if you want to check it out. 

 

someone on here told me to used vicks and i am putting it on my chest and other places on my body like around my nose,  i am bringing up mucus nonstop that i didnt even know was in my system,  that is why i wanted to get the detox products from the site. its herbal and its quite pricey.  i dont know if it will have a bad affect on my trazadone... i will call the company in california later today, i know they are 3 hours behind new york time and i will get info. on anything dealing with mucus also.

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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We do not recommend detoxing. Please look in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum for our discussions about it.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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28 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

We do not recommend detoxing. Please look in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum for our discussions about it.

I found the liver detox forum and read it after doing a little digging....thanks I will not detox.

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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my  biggest issue is my burning in my body..I don't know if next month if I should continue holding at 225mg if I still have burning or taper to my next taper of 202.5mg  anyone has any thought, I love hearing other peoples point of view on situations.

 

 

 

 

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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Hello Street,

 

I too am on trazodone, and have tapered in the past.  Earlier this year I had reduced from 62 mg to 51 and it took me 2.5 months to stabilize.  But I did stabilize.  Just keep holding until you do, it will happen.  You may want to reduce by a smaller percentage next time, perhaps 5%? That way you are gentler on your body.

 

All the best.

PAST

Gabapentin:  about 6 months in 2015, 300-900 mg, cold turkeyed Sept 2015 (at same time dc'd Klonopin)

Klonopin: June 2014- Sept 2015; 1mg tapered over 6 mths, dc'd at 0.25mg, withdrawal hellish (perhaps because of concurrent dc of gabapentin)

Mirtazepine: Jumped off at 2.4 mg. (stable in 8 months).

Seroquel:  June 14 - July 24, 2016, 25 mg alternate nights; smaller doses for shorter periods. Total use about 3 months 

Lamictal: March 19, 2018 - 1 mg; March 23 - 1.25 mg; April 6 - 2mg. Discontinued at 2 mgJuly 1, 2018 due to Steven Johnson Syndrome.

 

CURRENT

Supplements: Vit D, turmeric

Naturethroid: 65 mcg for hypothyroidism

Trazodone: Oct 2015 - June 2016; 75 mg tapered over 2 mths, intense w/d after 3 weeks. Reinstatement: 07/25/16 - 25 mg; updosed 08/03/16 - 50 mg;  10/01/16-  62mg; 03/24/17 dropped to 50 mg (stable in 2.5 months)

                           Current psych meds: Trazodone 50 mg

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2 hours ago, Survivor1 said:

Hello Street,

 

I too am on trazodone, and have tapered in the past.  Earlier this year I had reduced from 62 mg to 51 and it took me 2.5 months to stabilize.  But I did stabilize.  Just keep holding until you do, it will happen.  You may want to reduce by a smaller percentage next time, perhaps 5%? That way you are gentler on your body.

 

All the best.

i will hold.., i will need a new script for the 5 percent to go to my compound pharmacy ...can you tell me how you are doing your taper,,

 

im at 225mg right now, its nice taking to you bout trazodone..

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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I am pausing my trazodone for a while.  I am currently trying to stabilize after dropping mirtzepine, and will tackle seroquel next.  Trazodone will be my last taper - I expect it may be another year or so before I can start it.  In any case, I plan to reduce by 5% when it is time.  All the best to you.

PAST

Gabapentin:  about 6 months in 2015, 300-900 mg, cold turkeyed Sept 2015 (at same time dc'd Klonopin)

Klonopin: June 2014- Sept 2015; 1mg tapered over 6 mths, dc'd at 0.25mg, withdrawal hellish (perhaps because of concurrent dc of gabapentin)

Mirtazepine: Jumped off at 2.4 mg. (stable in 8 months).

Seroquel:  June 14 - July 24, 2016, 25 mg alternate nights; smaller doses for shorter periods. Total use about 3 months 

Lamictal: March 19, 2018 - 1 mg; March 23 - 1.25 mg; April 6 - 2mg. Discontinued at 2 mgJuly 1, 2018 due to Steven Johnson Syndrome.

 

CURRENT

Supplements: Vit D, turmeric

Naturethroid: 65 mcg for hypothyroidism

Trazodone: Oct 2015 - June 2016; 75 mg tapered over 2 mths, intense w/d after 3 weeks. Reinstatement: 07/25/16 - 25 mg; updosed 08/03/16 - 50 mg;  10/01/16-  62mg; 03/24/17 dropped to 50 mg (stable in 2.5 months)

                           Current psych meds: Trazodone 50 mg

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5 hours ago, Survivor1 said:

I am pausing my trazodone for a while.  I am currently trying to stabilize after dropping mirtzepine, and will tackle seroquel next.  Trazodone will be my last taper - I expect it may be another year or so before I can start it.  In any case, I plan to reduce by 5% when it is time.  All the best to you.

what do you mean by pausing, do you mean that you will hold at the 51mg that your on with trazodone  

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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Can anyone tell me if doing the Neurofeedback is a waste of money. i had an consultant yesterday to do the Neurofeedback ... thanks in advance for  a reply.

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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Hi Street. In my opinion - yes, it is a waste of time and money and that's the universal opinion as far as I know.

 

How are you?

Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

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16 minutes ago, AliG said:

Hi Street. In my opinion - yes, it is a waste of time and money and that's the universal opinion as far as I know.

 

How are you?

oh wow, and i asked my sister and daughter for a little finance to help me pay for this... can i find a link on here about people talking about it.. ..  i should have address it first here before i had gone to him.  the funny thing about the meeting was the man was talking about himself the whole time.

 

i have my first appt on nov 3rd. any link/info that you can gave me will help me to cancel my appointment immediately.... thanks for answering, i still have heat sensation in my skin. i have accepted that this is all about patience and going slow.. im longing for the day i can feel as myself. im hanging in there .. thanks for asking and i hope you are seeing and doing good.

 

 i now take my trazodone at 12am . im monitoring my heat sensation, i also want to reduced my dose once i stabalize to 5% instead of 10% 

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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WHOAAAAA!!

 

Not sure sure if I'm fully on board with AliG on this one.  Here is our thread on neurofeedback:

 

I've read some anecdotal stories of people who have used it to help them with their anxiety in withdrawal.  I'm not sure the jury is out on this one.

 

Do some research, Street.  Google "neurofeedback" and "psychiatric medication withdrawal" and see what you find.

 

Best,

 

Andy

 

 

Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg from 2000 -- symptoms of dizziness Spring 2012

increased to .5 Clonazapam and 100mg Sertraline -- no improvement

Benzo microtaper from November 2012 to November 2014 (followed benzo sites "taper benzo first")

Started Sertraline taper in December 2014 cut by 25mg to 75mg; 62.5mg 1/1/15 and 50mg on 2/1/15

Held at 50mg through April 5 to use liquid 
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet of 25mg on 10/5/15

Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy while tapering -- Horrible insomnia -- back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016

10/16 -- 11/18 tapered very slowly to 10.6mg.  No real improvement and never really stable so updosed to 12.5mg (1/2 a pill) for convenience and long hold.

After 8+ months of holding with no noticeable improvement decided to add .4ml of liquid Prozac (about 1.5mg) to see if that improves the situation

Supplements, Magnesium, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine, Vit. C,

 

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Yes , Andy is right.

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Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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1 hour ago, AliG said:

Yes , Andy is right.

 

LOL.  There is no "right or wrong" here, Ali.  I think it can help some people but it's an investment of time and money that may not have any return.  I'm not aware of people reporting negative outcomes, however, which gives me a little more comfort.  I do know that GiaK on Beyond Meds spoke favorably about it as having helped her.

 

It's a tough call, Street.  Do your research and then decide for yourself.


Best,

 

Andy

Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg from 2000 -- symptoms of dizziness Spring 2012

increased to .5 Clonazapam and 100mg Sertraline -- no improvement

Benzo microtaper from November 2012 to November 2014 (followed benzo sites "taper benzo first")

Started Sertraline taper in December 2014 cut by 25mg to 75mg; 62.5mg 1/1/15 and 50mg on 2/1/15

Held at 50mg through April 5 to use liquid 
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet of 25mg on 10/5/15

Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy while tapering -- Horrible insomnia -- back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016

10/16 -- 11/18 tapered very slowly to 10.6mg.  No real improvement and never really stable so updosed to 12.5mg (1/2 a pill) for convenience and long hold.

After 8+ months of holding with no noticeable improvement decided to add .4ml of liquid Prozac (about 1.5mg) to see if that improves the situation

Supplements, Magnesium, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine, Vit. C,

 

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11 minutes ago, apace41 said:

 

LOL.  There is no "right or wrong" here, Ali.  I think it can help some people but it's an investment of time and money that may not have any return.  I'm not aware of people reporting negative outcomes, however, which gives me a little more comfort.  I do know that GiaK on Beyond Meds spoke favorably about it as having helped her.

 

It's a tough call, Street.  Do your research and then decide for yourself.


Best,

 

Andy

I read you should be stable before doing neurofeedback, I am not stable, so I will cancel my nov 3rd appt. .....OMG!....the consultation was not cheap...next time with anything I will report here first before making any decisions. This is a great group of supporters. I thank you all for your wise and honest opinions.

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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On 10/15/2017 at 6:42 AM, Scorpio said:

Hi street129

how are you doing, I see you have been given some good advice, has it helped with your problems. 

nothing has change, im still not stable...

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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I’m sorry you are still struggling if it’s any consolation I’m back to horrible time again too. 

2006 After sudden death of mother put on 20mg of citaloprom for depression. 

2014 Drug stopped working after two weeks of panic attacks felt fine. 

Aug 2014. Doctor put me on lyrica for rash on face, diarrhoea, sleeplessness,muscle cramp, bruising. Initial dose too strong, halved dose.  Stopped taking it 22/10/14

2014 severe anxiety after several ssri's attempted, seem to have developed severe  sensitivity to any drug, but giving severe  reactions put on cipralex drop form.started on 2 drops and had to increase by 1 drop every 3 days. Eventually got to 12 drops and had to stop as side effects every step of the way dreadful. Psychiatrist kept telling me to stick with it and my body would get used to it.  Eventually down to 8 drops. Bad reactions throughout the time I was on it

Have been on this until may 2017. Stopped over two weeks. Felt fine for 5 weeks after initial dizziness, nightmares, nausea, insomnia.  

Given diazepam by gp and told to take them when anxiety bad. Have only taken them very rarely as they frighten me. 

Last two weeks severe anxiety returned and feeling hopeless 

11July 2017. Cipralex 2mg. Anxiety, nausea still severe

13 July 2017 Cipralex 1mg due to advice of too high dosage  by kind person on thus site. so dropped from 2mg to 1mg and feelings of anxiety still at severe. As well as nausea, headaches, fatigue. 

15 July still feeling extremely anxious verging on panic. Nausea, feelings of fainting, fatigue. Lots of head pains 

3 August. Three weeks into trying to stabilise on one drop of cipralex. Still have waking from 4am. Sporadic upset stomach. Nausea.  High anxiety.  Throbbing/burning in nether regions seems to have eased for time being but stabbing/burning in calves of legs. Tinnitus. Occasional half to whole better days but mainly still struggling. Fatigue   

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is this good to take for stress.. Ashwagandha

 

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JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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11 hours ago, Scorpio said:

I’m sorry you are still struggling if it’s any consolation I’m back to horrible time again too. 

longing for a good day. I suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome and I don't know if my symptom are related to that I am going to make an app with chronic dr tomorrow... Have you ever heard of  Ashwagandha...if you do can I get a link to read the comments ..thanks I hope we all feel better soon.

 

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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I hope the chronic dr can help you. I have heard of it but don’t know much about it. I can’t take any supplements without getting reactions so I steer clear of all of it. 

2006 After sudden death of mother put on 20mg of citaloprom for depression. 

2014 Drug stopped working after two weeks of panic attacks felt fine. 

Aug 2014. Doctor put me on lyrica for rash on face, diarrhoea, sleeplessness,muscle cramp, bruising. Initial dose too strong, halved dose.  Stopped taking it 22/10/14

2014 severe anxiety after several ssri's attempted, seem to have developed severe  sensitivity to any drug, but giving severe  reactions put on cipralex drop form.started on 2 drops and had to increase by 1 drop every 3 days. Eventually got to 12 drops and had to stop as side effects every step of the way dreadful. Psychiatrist kept telling me to stick with it and my body would get used to it.  Eventually down to 8 drops. Bad reactions throughout the time I was on it

Have been on this until may 2017. Stopped over two weeks. Felt fine for 5 weeks after initial dizziness, nightmares, nausea, insomnia.  

Given diazepam by gp and told to take them when anxiety bad. Have only taken them very rarely as they frighten me. 

Last two weeks severe anxiety returned and feeling hopeless 

11July 2017. Cipralex 2mg. Anxiety, nausea still severe

13 July 2017 Cipralex 1mg due to advice of too high dosage  by kind person on thus site. so dropped from 2mg to 1mg and feelings of anxiety still at severe. As well as nausea, headaches, fatigue. 

15 July still feeling extremely anxious verging on panic. Nausea, feelings of fainting, fatigue. Lots of head pains 

3 August. Three weeks into trying to stabilise on one drop of cipralex. Still have waking from 4am. Sporadic upset stomach. Nausea.  High anxiety.  Throbbing/burning in nether regions seems to have eased for time being but stabbing/burning in calves of legs. Tinnitus. Occasional half to whole better days but mainly still struggling. Fatigue   

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9 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

I hope the chronic dr can help you. I have heard of it but don’t know much about it. I can’t take any supplements without getting reactions so I steer clear of all of it. 

im very sensitive also, but because I don't really know why im so ill once I see my chronic dr. I will have a better understanding whats going on with me. I will let you know what he find once I see him ..

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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Good luck. Hopefully he will help. 

2006 After sudden death of mother put on 20mg of citaloprom for depression. 

2014 Drug stopped working after two weeks of panic attacks felt fine. 

Aug 2014. Doctor put me on lyrica for rash on face, diarrhoea, sleeplessness,muscle cramp, bruising. Initial dose too strong, halved dose.  Stopped taking it 22/10/14

2014 severe anxiety after several ssri's attempted, seem to have developed severe  sensitivity to any drug, but giving severe  reactions put on cipralex drop form.started on 2 drops and had to increase by 1 drop every 3 days. Eventually got to 12 drops and had to stop as side effects every step of the way dreadful. Psychiatrist kept telling me to stick with it and my body would get used to it.  Eventually down to 8 drops. Bad reactions throughout the time I was on it

Have been on this until may 2017. Stopped over two weeks. Felt fine for 5 weeks after initial dizziness, nightmares, nausea, insomnia.  

Given diazepam by gp and told to take them when anxiety bad. Have only taken them very rarely as they frighten me. 

Last two weeks severe anxiety returned and feeling hopeless 

11July 2017. Cipralex 2mg. Anxiety, nausea still severe

13 July 2017 Cipralex 1mg due to advice of too high dosage  by kind person on thus site. so dropped from 2mg to 1mg and feelings of anxiety still at severe. As well as nausea, headaches, fatigue. 

15 July still feeling extremely anxious verging on panic. Nausea, feelings of fainting, fatigue. Lots of head pains 

3 August. Three weeks into trying to stabilise on one drop of cipralex. Still have waking from 4am. Sporadic upset stomach. Nausea.  High anxiety.  Throbbing/burning in nether regions seems to have eased for time being but stabbing/burning in calves of legs. Tinnitus. Occasional half to whole better days but mainly still struggling. Fatigue   

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5 hours ago, street129 said:

is this good to take for stress.. Ashwagandha

 

 

Please see this topic ashwagandha-herb-for-anxiety-stress-and-toxic-overload

 

And especially note this post:

 

On 31/07/2013 at 9:19 PM, GiaK said:

I used to take ashwaganda daily...it's one of many supplements that went south on me...it's now agitating and very unpleasant...just FYI

 

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Hey Street - 

On 26/10/2017 at 11:35 PM, street129 said:

i also wants to do a detox, is there a link on detoxing i tried looking but i cant find any thread on this site...

theres a site in california that sells mr sebi products, the  site is sebi.com if you want to check it out. 

 

someone on here told me to used vicks and i am putting it on my chest and other places on my body like around my nose,  i am bringing up mucus nonstop that i didnt even know was in my system,  that is why i wanted to get the detox products from the site. its herbal and its quite pricey

 

Detox is recommended only when you are healthy enough to stand it.  With your symptoms, it would be best to wait until you are off of the drugs.and away from withdrawal.

Most people who try a detox protocol while in withdrawal regret it:

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1963-liver-cleansing-enemas-fasting-and-other-purification-methods/

 

The extra mucous is your body trying to balance itself.  Trazadone does hit histamine receptors, and as your dose goes lower, that antihistamine action will drop out.  This looks like horrible allergies or toxic reactions - but really - it's just the trazadone.

On 29/10/2017 at 6:12 AM, street129 said:

Can anyone tell me if doing the Neurofeedback is a waste of money. i had an consultant yesterday to do the Neurofeedback ... thanks in advance for  a reply.

 

I'm concerned that you are replacing normal healthy social interactions with medical appointments.


Neurofeedback can be awesome.  It is important to get a good practitioner - there are a lot of cowboys in the field.  

BUT - none of these practitioners understand withdrawal and psych drugs, and the interactions between their work and the effects of the drugs.  And none of these practitioners are smart enough to say, "I don't know how this will affect withdrawal," and are more likely to say, "Give me your money, let's try it!"

At this time in your life, I believe it is a waste of money.

At another time in your life, it might be amazing and helpful to be able to control your brain waves and patterns with neurofeedback.  But not while you are struggling with symptoms.

 

Did your chronic fatigue start before you started trazadone or other drugs?

The thing is, these drugs' symptoms often look a lot like CFS, Fibro, Myoencephalitis, etc.  And, in fact, long term use of these drugs can induce conditions very similar to these catch all "diagnosis."

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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Hey Street - 

On 26/10/2017 at 11:35 PM, street129 said:

i also wants to do a detox, is there a link on detoxing i tried looking but i cant find any thread on this site...

theres a site in california that sells mr sebi products, the  site is sebi.com if you want to check it out. 

 

someone on here told me to used vicks and i am putting it on my chest and other places on my body like around my nose,  i am bringing up mucus nonstop that i didnt even know was in my system,  that is why i wanted to get the detox products from the site. its herbal and its quite pricey

 

Detox is recommended only when you are healthy enough to stand it.  With your symptoms, it would be best to wait until you are off of the drugs.and away from withdrawal.

Most people who try a detox protocol while in withdrawal regret it:

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1963-liver-cleansing-enemas-fasting-and-other-purification-methods/

 

The extra mucous is your body trying to balance itself.  Trazadone does hit histamine receptors, and as your dose goes lower, that antihistamine action will drop out.  This looks like horrible allergies or toxic reactions - but really - it's just the trazadone.

On 29/10/2017 at 6:12 AM, street129 said:

Can anyone tell me if doing the Neurofeedback is a waste of money. i had an consultant yesterday to do the Neurofeedback ... thanks in advance for  a reply.

 

I'm concerned that you are replacing normal healthy social interactions with medical appointments.

 

Neurofeedback can be awesome.  It is important to get a good practitioner - there are a lot of cowboys in the field.  

 

BUT - none of these practitioners understand withdrawal and psych drugs, and the interactions between their work and the effects of the drugs.  And none of these practitioners are smart enough to say, "I don't know how this will affect withdrawal," and are more likely to say, "Give me your money, let's try it!"

At this time in your life, I believe it is a waste of money.

At another time in your life, it might be amazing and helpful to be able to control your brain waves and patterns with neurofeedback.  But not while you are struggling with symptoms.

Some people are helped by ashwaganda, some are not.

I struggle with CFS (well, doctors would call it that - but it's a complex condition that doctors don't really understand, or have much compassion for).

I am mostly helped by mental and emotional techniques.   There are supplements, and I take them - with all supplements realize that there are no quick fixes, just tiny adjustments.

I hope you see the sun today.

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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Hey Street - 

 

Detox is recommended only when you are healthy enough to stand it.  With your symptoms, it would be best to wait until you are off of the drugs.and away from withdrawal.

Most people who try a detox protocol while in withdrawal regret it:

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1963-liver-cleansing-enemas-fasting-and-other-purification-methods/

 

The extra mucous is your body trying to balance itself.  Trazadone does hit histamine receptors, and as your dose goes lower, that antihistamine action will drop out.  This looks like horrible allergies or toxic reactions - but really - it's just the trazadone.

 

I'm concerned that you are replacing normal healthy social interactions with medical appointments.


Neurofeedback can be awesome.  It is important to get a good practitioner - there are a lot of cowboys in the field.  

BUT - none of these practitioners understand withdrawal and psych drugs, and the interactions between their work and the effects of the drugs.  And none of these practitioners are smart enough to say, "I don't know how this will affect withdrawal," and are more likely to say, "Give me your money, let's try it!"

At this time in your life, I believe it is a waste of money.

At another time in your life, it might be amazing and helpful to be able to control your brain waves and patterns with .  But not while you are struggling with symptoms.

 

Did your chronic fatigue start before you started trazadone or other drugs?

The thing is, these drugs' symptoms often look a lot like CFS, Fibro, Myoencephalitis, etc.  And, in fact, long term use of these drugs can induce conditions very similar to these catch all "diagnosis."

thank you so much jancarol,..your insight is remarkable, I had chronic fatigue before I was on any drug, its after my chronic fatigue I developed insomnia then been taking aides for sleep....I have chronic fatigue since 1995, got 85% better over the many years where I can live a good life, then 2 months ago I fell ill, and right after was when I got off my sleep meds for a day, it both hit all at once, I want to believe its chronic fatigue, I have now also develope this cough, I don't know where it came from but when I inhale im having coughing attacks with mucos that its draining me,  its been like this for the pass 2 weeks that I don't know what to do so I ended up in the emergency room, Dr said he heard tweezing in my lung, so far they gave me an oral inhaler to breath into, that made my coughing attacks worst....

 

I will not do a detox thanks for the links...I cancel my neurofeedback this morning, I have now thrown away money on my consultant, I will check here first from now on before I make any decisions going forward. Thank you sooooooo much ms jancarol. Diamond in a ruff.

 

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250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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21 hours ago, Scorpio said:

Good luck. Hopefully he will help. 

thank you love , .be well

I got an app late in november.

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250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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Hi street:

 

Just thought I would drop by and say hi and see how you are doing?

 

Hope well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, 

 Xanax 1mg three times a day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) three times a day to .003 grams three times a day.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

 

 

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2 hours ago, Frogie said:

Hi street:

 

Just thought I would drop by and say hi and see how you are doing?

 

Hope well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

hi frogie, im still hanging in there. No great change as yet.I hope you're doing good.

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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16 minutes ago, street129 said:

hi frogie, im still hanging in there. No great change as yet.I hope you're doing good.

I'm doing better, after 4 antibiotics I think I'm over my infection.

 

Hope you have a HUGE window soon!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, 

 Xanax 1mg three times a day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) three times a day to .003 grams three times a day.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

 

 

I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Any improvement in your rotten symptoms- I hope so. Any appetite back yet?  Mine seemed to appear yesterday and snacked and ate all day - amazing.  Mind you have gotten up today back to forcing banana and yoghurt down. 

2006 After sudden death of mother put on 20mg of citaloprom for depression. 

2014 Drug stopped working after two weeks of panic attacks felt fine. 

Aug 2014. Doctor put me on lyrica for rash on face, diarrhoea, sleeplessness,muscle cramp, bruising. Initial dose too strong, halved dose.  Stopped taking it 22/10/14

2014 severe anxiety after several ssri's attempted, seem to have developed severe  sensitivity to any drug, but giving severe  reactions put on cipralex drop form.started on 2 drops and had to increase by 1 drop every 3 days. Eventually got to 12 drops and had to stop as side effects every step of the way dreadful. Psychiatrist kept telling me to stick with it and my body would get used to it.  Eventually down to 8 drops. Bad reactions throughout the time I was on it

Have been on this until may 2017. Stopped over two weeks. Felt fine for 5 weeks after initial dizziness, nightmares, nausea, insomnia.  

Given diazepam by gp and told to take them when anxiety bad. Have only taken them very rarely as they frighten me. 

Last two weeks severe anxiety returned and feeling hopeless 

11July 2017. Cipralex 2mg. Anxiety, nausea still severe

13 July 2017 Cipralex 1mg due to advice of too high dosage  by kind person on thus site. so dropped from 2mg to 1mg and feelings of anxiety still at severe. As well as nausea, headaches, fatigue. 

15 July still feeling extremely anxious verging on panic. Nausea, feelings of fainting, fatigue. Lots of head pains 

3 August. Three weeks into trying to stabilise on one drop of cipralex. Still have waking from 4am. Sporadic upset stomach. Nausea.  High anxiety.  Throbbing/burning in nether regions seems to have eased for time being but stabbing/burning in calves of legs. Tinnitus. Occasional half to whole better days but mainly still struggling. Fatigue   

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I have done some research on trazodone on other sites and a lot of people that are taking it are having symtom  like what I have, I am experiencing burred vision, nasal congestion still heat in the body and im still @225mg. One of the people on the site said that after these symtom came they discontinue trazodone and all of the  symptom went away ..they were on then for only a month.  Im ready to go to my next taper 202.5mg, but im also scared. I've been t 225mg since late august and I really don't know how I feel.not as bad but not as good either, I want to go one more at 225mg, but im confuse. Im ranting and hope someone will jump in...

 

hope i didnt put this in the wrong place.....

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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On 10/30/2017 at 1:17 PM, Frogie said:

Hi street:

 

Just thought I would drop by and say hi and see how you are doing?

 

Hope well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

havent been here in a while... im still not myself, and all my symptom seem like side affects, my nose is congested for no reason and cloggy, ..with my vision being burred,  and had develope allergies.. i  was on another board where people are giving their experience of beening on trazadone and complaining about the same symptoms i have.... i dont know if i should move to my next taper after reading the posts on that board.some people said once they got off their symptom went away. do you have any thought on this i hope i hear from the mods. and being scared to move to my next taper..

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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On 10/31/2017 at 5:07 AM, Scorpio said:

Hi quest

Any improvement in your rotten symptoms- I hope so. Any appetite back yet?  Mine seemed to appear yesterday and snacked and ate all day - amazing.  Mind you have gotten up today back to forcing banana and yoghurt down. 

was doing research and havent been here in a while.. my symptoms seen like side affect, and i want to go to my next taper but im scare becuse of these side affects from the trazadone. 

JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017

 

 

250mg trazodone

250mg   Aug 21, 2017  tapering before I found SA

200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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