street129 Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 @brassmonkey should I have ordered a pill crusher or should I go to Whole Food and see if I see one, i understand your instructions fully thank you so much. I will let you know as I start taking my first dose I would let you know how I'm feeling. I Have postit note that's in a pad that I have . JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted July 10, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) If you want to, using the spoons just saves a bit of money is all. I just noticed that the numbers I used in my above post are wrong. I used the numbers for the second slide and not the first. I will correct them right now. I've corrected the weights in my previous post. The correct weights are listed in red. Edited July 10, 2019 by brassmonkey Added note about correction 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 @brassmonkey got it JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
street129 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 @brassmonkey I have not started my first dose, I am going for acupuncture for my headaches twice a week started on Monday. will this affect anything once I start the Trazodone. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted July 11, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2019 Acupuncture can be a tricky thing when mixed with psych drugs. We have had all sorts of results here so it's really hard to call it. I would stay away from treatments that are activating/stimulating and stick with ones that relax the body. Have you talked to the acupuncturist about the trazodone? 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 @brassmonkey I'm glad I talk with you first bout this. explain this sentence. I would stay away from treatments that are activating/stimulating and stick with ones that relax the body. So are you saying stop acupuncture. I didn't mention the trazone since I didn't started and wasn't sure bout both interaction I will mention when I go for acupuncture next Wednesday My insurance gave me 30 visit of acupuncture yearly and I'm using to help with my daily migraine, I wanted to start the trazodone September/october by then I should hit my 30 visits, my TRAZADONE are almost done for this month would it be bad to make my dosages even if I don't start at this time I would make weekly and label them JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted July 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 12, 2019 It would be fine to make up your doses in advance. Just keep them organized so you can take the right one at the right time. There are a lot of different types of acupuncture treatments. Some of them are designed to simulate the body while others are to relax the body. It all depends on where they stick the needles. What I was saying was if possible get treatments that are designed to relax the body. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 @brassmonkey I started doing my capsule today, but my amount of the power of 563 is more than my capsule itself, I have the 0' of 1000 capsule. I'm returning them in the morning, Is the 00' capsule longer to hole all the power of my 563 capsule. Thanks. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 15, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 hours ago, street129 said: I have the 0' of 1000 capsule. I'm returning them in the morning, You could keep these for when you get to a lower dose. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted July 16, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 16, 2019 The "00" capsule is larger, but I don't know if it is big enough. I just checked amazon and they do carry "000" capsules. They would be huge and hard to swallow though. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 16, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, brassmonkey said: The "00" capsule is larger, but I don't know if it is big enough. You could always put the powder into 2 x "0" capsules. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
street129 Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 @brassmonkey I had decided to keep the 0' capsule since the mg of the powder decreases over time and should hold. I will order the 00' capsules at 500 count o see how it will holds the 563 and experiment using 2x 0' as ChessieCat suggested. I will keep you abreast. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
street129 Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, ChessieCat said: You could always put the powder into 2 x "0" capsules. Great idea ChessieCat, I will try this also. Thanks JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
street129 Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 hours ago, ChessieCat said: You could keep these for when you get to a lower dose. Thank you I will. That was my decision after I thought about it earlier today. I hate returning things. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
street129 Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 @brassmonkey Thank you for the link brassmonkey. I think falling asleep before time for my pill wasn't the best, that's why I needed a second opinion. I agree with you. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
LadyBartonella Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Hi Street, I did to big cut also Now I m praying for stabilisation I will watch your topic 2012 March- low anxiety, I started sertraline and I got adverse reaction. -.I got depression, ss thoughts and other bad symptoms 2012 May I was put on Clonozepam & paroxetine- it helped. I stopped clonozepam after 4 months with no issue. 2012- 2016 paroxetine 20 mg/ 30 mg 10/2016-02/2017 I tappered paroxetine and during this I was feeling wonderfull. 3 months without paroxetine and withdrawal syndrome appeared. I went back to paroxetine but I couldn't stabilise. CRASH 01/08/2016--Bridge to fluoxetine. fluoxetine 20 mg , triticco / trazadone 75 mg , clonozepam 0,5mg September 2016 I was diagnosed with Lyme disease. I did test in two different laboratories- both positive 04.03.2017. from 20.11.2017 I started tapper from 0.5 to 0.125 mg- when I got some relief from Lyme treatment. I crashed on 01.02.2018, I slowed down tappering. 20/03/2019- clonozepam 0,0062 mg, fluoxetine 20 mg, trazadone 75 mg28/06/2019- clonozepam 0,0023 mg, trazadone 75 mg, fluoxetine 20 mg 29/07/2019- clonozepam 0,0012 mg trazadone 75 mg, fluo-20 mg 13/08/2019 clonozepam 0,0006 mg I cut trazadone to 50 mg bcs of terrible fatique- big MISTAKE- 21.08.2019 updosed trazadone to 62 mg-still WD- 28.08.2019 oryginal dosage 75 mg 26/09/2019 OFF clonozepam, fluoxetine 20 mg, trazadone 75 mg 06/05/2023 OFF clonozepam, fluoxetine 17 mg, trazadone 25 mg HOLD from 20.11.2021 FROM WD of paroxetine 2017 I have not recovered. I was diagnosed with Lyme, Bartonella , mold, I have low dao (Diamine oxidase). I don't know why but I have some relief from resweratrol, ginger, famotidine (Pepcid) Link to comment
street129 Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 thanks ladybartonella, im trying to start my taper this month but i have a stumper, with how to put the power on the scale. i have to go read my notes from brassmonkey, so my taper wont start the first as i plan, JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted September 2, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2019 Scroll up to the top of this page to my post of July 9. It's all right there. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 @brassmonkey I have started filling up the empty capsules with the crush powder last week, so far I have made my first 7 for the first week. it seems that I'm not getting the full dose in my capsules I need to know if letting the mg of 563 of the powder go a little more like 564 - 565, some of the powder end up in the plate instead from my unsteady hands. I been suffering with very bad headache for couple years now, I read on the board trzadone cause headache, free can't find the cause, I really need of this stuff I am so ready, I hope there no more stumblers in starting. I'm feeling like if the powder is under the right amount, I'm losing on my full dose, which could bring on withdrawal. You thoughts. And how to move forward. I Will wait on your reply. is there any other method that's out there to taper, like how does the water method works and is that a good method? Thanks so much. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted September 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2019 Having a little variation in the weight of the dose isn't going to cause much of a problem. Remember several months ago I made a note of a measurement called the AIC (Active Ingredient Concentration) and said you didn't have to worry about it because it was for my reference? This is one of the times that this comes onto play. The AIC for your pills is 0.44. This means that for every 1mgpw you weigh on the scale 0.44mg of it is the actual drug while the rest is filler. So even if you are off by a small amount on your measurements you are off by a lot less in the actual strength of your dose. So a little variation won't cause much trouble. If you work over a second piece of paper you can use that to catch the little bit you might spill and then work that into the capsule. Also you can tap the little bits in the pan onto the folded paper you are using to pour the powder into the capsule. So it may take a couple to tries to get it all in. Being consistent in how you do it is actually more important. At the beginning of a taper there is an adjustment period where the body is getting use to the idea so there may be some symptoms that will crop up. Also there will be some symptoms happen with each reduction, but those we will try to keep to a minimum by using the slide method. I was in poopout the last several years I took paxil before I started to taper and every day about three pm I would get a bad headache. Once I got my taper under control they slowly started to clear up. If you do a site search on tapering trazodone you should find a lot of discussion working with a homemade liquid. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted September 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2019 @street129 Hi: I answered you in my thread when you get time to read it. I hope you are doing well. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
street129 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 @brassmonkey Oh yes I remember you did post about the AIC thanks for that remembrance. You are a smart man in this, I love the two paper idea it makes so much sense, as I visualize the two paper helping the spill few to catch that spill. I am very appreciative of your knowledge in all this thank you. I will soon let you know how I'm doing with my second set. I think starting over with the first set by emptying the already done capsule one at a time to be able to use both paper. I want this done as close as possible and for me to feel like it's good. This is definitely will not be perfect, but close enough. I just want to cross my t's and to dot all my i's. Have a Splendid weekend JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
street129 Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 8:51 AM, Frogie said: @street129 Hi: I answered you in my thread when you get time to read it. I hope you are doing well. Take care, Frogie xx @Frogie Hi hope your taper is going smoothly, I am still making my pills into powder. I'm on my third week of doing my pill, I'm also thinking on what I would do if I ran out, I will send brass monkey this maybe tomorrow. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted September 10, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2019 9 hours ago, street129 said: @Frogie Hi hope your taper is going smoothly, I am still making my pills into powder. I'm on my third week of doing my pill, I'm also thinking on what I would do if I ran out, I will send brass monkey this maybe tomorrow. Hi: My taper is going as smoothly as possible. I wake with a little anxiety, but that seems to be normal for me as my body is receiving less Xanax than it has for over 20 years. But, I’ll be fine. I just distract myself a lot. I’m glad you are getting yourself ready for your taper. As as long as your dr continues to prescribe your Trazodone, you are not going to run out of tablets. Is there a reason he would stop giving you a prescription? I would hope not. Keep me posted. Hope you are doing well. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
street129 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 @brassmonkey I have completed transfering my power for the first month. Haven't started taking my first week as yet I want to have mulitple months to keep me going I don't think I would be in the mood to be making them once I start and end up with WD. I would appreciate if I can get the third and forth calculation of my mg. Also do you know the mg off of my 250mg with the first week of 0.563. thank you [Week one: 570 X .9875 = 563 This is the weight of your first weeks dose. The display on the scale will show 0.563.] I'm doing my 2ND month the same calculations but will use 542 instead of 570. Week one: 542 X .9875 = 535 Week two 542 X .975 = 529 Week three 542 X .962 = 522 Weeks four through six 542 X .95 = 515 I'm doing my power into capsule I'm on my 2ND month filling them up as it's a challenge I must say. Appreciate your help. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted September 17, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just to make sure that you are making enough doses the calculations are for six weeks worth not a month. The last line covers three weeks. For your third round of reductions it would go like this: Week one: 515 X .9875 = 509 Week two: 515 X .975 = 502 Week three: 515 X .962 = 495 Weeks four thru six 515 X .95 = 489 For your fourth round of reductions it would go like this: Week one: 489 X .9875 = 483 Week two 489 X .975 = 477 Week three 489 X .962 = 470 Weeks four thru six 489 X .95 = 465 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) @brassmonkey yes thanks for the reminder. When I start my first dose. for example to begin: Week one: 570 X .9875 = 563 Week two: 570 X .975 = 556 Week three: 570 X .962 = 548 Weeks four through six: 570 X .95 = 542 Weeks four thru six: 570 X .95 = 542 <<<<<<< this is the week i hold 2 extra weeks at 542, can i hold 3 extra @ 542, if not feeling ok to move on since my system is very sensitive but also if i do the 3 weeks hold would i have to do it with every starting new month of the last week. i hope im making sense, thanks. Edited September 17, 2019 by ChessieCat unbolded JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted September 17, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2019 There would not be a problem with holding for three weeks if you feel that you need it. You need to hold at least two weeks each time but if you need three or four that's fine. It all depends on how things feel on that round of reductions. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 @brassmonkey im just touching base, im using someone laptop, mines is mess up and in bestbuy getting repair at a whooping 450.00.i could have discarded it, but i didnt want to cut ties' so im asking for my next 2 sets of mg when you get time. i appreciate it, thank you. Thank you for choosing Geek Squad Hello G. Your device has been checked in at your local Best Buy® store. Our Geek Squad Agents are working on your device. When your device is ready for you to pick it up, we will send you an email to make a reservation. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 4, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2019 Hi Street-- I really hate computer problems, mine's been acting up lately too. With luck I can squeeze another year out of it. Just replaced my phone and am still getting use to it. I already sent you the numbers for rounds three and four (several post above) so are you looking for rounds five and six now or do you need three and four again? 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 @brassmonkey oh so sorry I didn't specify, I would need five and six thank you so, so sorry. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
street129 Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 @brassmonkey Hi Mr. Brassmonkey, I hope all is well with you. I got my laptop and I do need my round 5 and 6 to continue my taper cause I have no idea how to do my taper, thank you so much. I cannot continue cause I don't know how JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 27, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 27, 2019 Glad you got the laptop sorted. Computer problems can be such a pain. Here are the numbers for your fifth and sixth rounds For your fifth round of reductions it would go like this: Week one: 465 X .9875 = 459 Week two: 465 X .975 = 453 Week three: 465 X .962 = 447 Weeks four thru six 465 X .95 = 442 For your sixth round of reductions it would go like this: Week one: 442 X .9875 = 436 Week two 442 X .975 = 431 Week three 442 X .962 = 425 Weeks four thru six 442 X .95 = 420 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 @brassmonkey Thank you, I would like your thoughts on a situation I will be facing real soon, I'm making my taper and I'm excited of this process, I would appreciate your imput, my daughter had a miscarriage back in June of 2019, and she's one of those people that CANNOT get pregnant naturally so she has been doing the IUI's to help her get pregnant, for about the last 3-4 years, my concern is I want to be in able body when she start her process again during her cycle which is any day now. Can me starting taking my doses ect, [cause I know what happened to me in 2017] , and having horrible reaction to meds, even tho I did it all wrong, i have now an experience help from you, so I'm very secured knowing you're there, thank you, but i need to be there for my daughter in her time of need but it's my system I don't fully trust, I need not to be bed ridden or feeling withdrawals at presant. If you have any suggestion moving forward it will help a great deal. You can ask me anything with this issue. And if you don't have any imput, that's ok too. Never the less Thank you kindly. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 28, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2019 I think your experience this time will be a lot different than the one from 2017. I think caring for your daughter is going to be a wonderful distraction and if you let it, will really take your mind off of your tapering. I wouldn't worry about any symptoms until they show up and start to be a problem. There will be some, but don't let them get in the way until they really demand attention. Tapering should just be something you do, not something you worry about. So until it gives you something to worry about, ignore it and get on with doing what needs to be done. Many WD symptoms are like unwanted house guests, they demand your attention for every little thing, but if you ignore them long enough they go away. Best of luck to you daughter, I hope everything goes well. It should with you looking out for her. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
street129 Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 @brassmonkey Good evening Sir, I'm hoping all is well with you. I'm reaching a point within my trazadone that Im running out of the ones that I had for a good long time. Do you know of any places that I can order them I do get a subscription monthly, also I was told on here that my trazadone has to be by the same manufacture which is TEVA,, any help will be appreciated. I crush a bunch today, which I'm low on, and I would appreciate the 7 and 8 reductions of rounds. Thank you always I also noticed the less mg i make the easier to distribute in the empty pills, thanks for all your help, may you stay safe and bless in all that you do proudly JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
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