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should I have ordered a pill crusher or should I go to Whole Food and see if I see one,

i understand your instructions fully thank you so much.

I will let you know as I start taking my first dose I would let you know how I'm feeling. I Have postit note that's in a pad that I have .

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If you want to, using the spoons just saves a bit of money is all.

 

I just noticed that the numbers I used in my above post are wrong.  I used the numbers for the second slide and not the first. I will correct them right now.

I've corrected the weights in my previous post.  The correct weights are listed in red.

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Added note about correction

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street129

@brassmonkey


I have not started my first dose, I am going for acupuncture for my headaches twice a week started on Monday.


will this affect anything once I start the Trazodone. 

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Acupuncture can be a tricky thing when mixed with psych drugs.  We have had all sorts of results here so it's really hard to call it.  I would stay away from treatments that are activating/stimulating and stick with ones that relax the body. Have you talked to the acupuncturist about the trazodone?

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I'm glad I talk with you first bout this. explain this sentence. I would stay away from treatments that are activating/stimulating and stick with ones that relax the body.  So are you saying stop acupuncture.


I didn't mention the trazone since I didn't started and wasn't sure bout both interaction I will mention when I go for acupuncture  next Wednesday

My insurance gave me 30 visit of acupuncture yearly and I'm using to help with my daily migraine, 


I wanted to start the trazodone  September/october by then I should hit my 30 visits,


  my TRAZADONE are almost done for this month


would it be bad to make my dosages even if I don't start at this time I would make weekly and label them

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It would be fine to make up your doses in advance.  Just keep them organized so you can take the right one at the right time.

 

There are a lot of different types of acupuncture treatments. Some of them are designed to simulate the body while others are to relax the body.  It all depends on where they stick the needles.  What I was saying was if possible  get treatments that are designed to relax the body.

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@brassmonkey


I started doing my capsule today, but my amount of the power of 563 is more than my capsule itself,


I have the 0' of 1000 capsule. I'm returning them in the morning, 


Is the 00' capsule longer to hole all the power of my 563 capsule. Thanks. 

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2 hours ago, street129 said:

I have the 0' of 1000 capsule. I'm returning them in the morning,  

 

You could keep these for when you get to a lower dose.

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The "00" capsule is larger, but I don't know if it is big enough.

 

I just checked amazon and they do carry "000" capsules.  They would be huge and hard to swallow though.

 

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3 minutes ago, brassmonkey said:

The "00" capsule is larger, but I don't know if it is big enough.

 

You could always put the powder into 2 x "0" capsules.

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@brassmonkey


I had decided to keep the 0' capsule since the mg of the powder decreases over time and should hold.

 I will order the 00' capsules  at 500 count o see how it will holds the 563 and experiment using 2x 0' as ChessieCat suggested.


I will keep you abreast.

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street129
2 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

You could always put the powder into 2 x "0" capsules.

Great idea ChessieCat, I will try this also. Thanks

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street129
5 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

You could keep these for when you get to a lower dose.

Thank you I will. That was my decision after I thought about it earlier today. I hate returning things.

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street129

@brassmonkey    Thank you for the link brassmonkey.  I think falling asleep before time for my pill wasn't the best,  that's why I needed a second opinion. I agree with you.

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LadyBartonella

Hi Street, I did  to big cut also 

Now I m praying for stabilisation 

 

I will watch your topic 

 

 

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thanks ladybartonella, im trying to start my taper this month but i have a stumper, with how to put the power on the scale. i have to go read my notes from brassmonkey, so my taper wont start the first as i plan,

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Scroll up to the top of this page to my post of July 9.  It's all right there.

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I have started filling up the empty  capsules with the crush powder last week, so far I have made my first 7 for the first week. it seems that I'm not getting the full dose in my capsules I need to know if letting the mg of 563 of the powder go a little more like 564 - 565,  some of the powder end up in the plate instead from my unsteady hands.

I been suffering with very bad headache for couple years now, I read on the board trzadone cause headache, free can't find the cause, I really need of this stuff I am so ready, I hope there no more stumblers in starting.


I'm feeling like if the powder is under the right amount, I'm losing on my full dose, which could bring on withdrawal. You thoughts. And how to move forward. I Will wait on your reply.


is there any other method that's out there to taper, like how does the water method works and is that a good method? Thanks so much.

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Having a little variation in the weight of the dose isn't going to cause much of a problem.  Remember several months ago I made a note of a measurement called the AIC (Active Ingredient Concentration) and said you didn't have to worry about it because it was for my reference?  This is one of the times that this comes onto play.  The AIC for your pills is 0.44.  This means that for every 1mgpw you weigh on the scale 0.44mg of it is the actual drug while the rest is filler.  So even if you are off by a small amount on your measurements you are off by a lot less in the actual strength of your dose. So a little variation won't cause much trouble.

 

If you work over a second piece of paper you can use that to catch the little bit you might spill and then work that into the capsule.  Also you can tap the little bits in the pan onto the folded paper you are using to pour the powder into the capsule.  So it may take a couple to tries to get it all in.  Being consistent in how you do it is actually more important.  At the beginning of a taper there is an adjustment period where the body is getting use to the idea so there may be some symptoms that will crop up.  Also there will be some symptoms happen with each reduction, but those we will try to keep to a minimum by using the slide method.

 

I was in poopout the last several years I took paxil before I started to taper and every day about three pm I would get a bad headache.  Once I got my taper under control they slowly started to clear up.

 

If you do a site search on tapering trazodone you should find a lot of discussion working with a homemade liquid.

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@street129

 

Hi:

 

I answered you in my thread when you get time to read it.

 

I hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

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@brassmonkey


Oh yes I remember you did post about the AIC thanks for that remembrance.


You are a smart man in this,  I love the two paper idea it makes so much sense, as I visualize the two paper helping the spill few to catch that spill.

I am very appreciative of your knowledge in all this thank you.  I will soon let you know how I'm doing with my second set.

 I think starting over with the first set by emptying the already done capsule one at a time to be able to use both paper. I want this done as close as possible and for me to feel like it's good. This is definitely will not be perfect, but close enough. I just want to cross my t's and to dot all my i's.       Have a Splendid weekend

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On 9/5/2019 at 8:51 AM, Frogie said:

@street129

 

Hi:

 

I answered you in my thread when you get time to read it.

 

I hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

@Frogie

 Hi hope your taper is going smoothly, I am still making my pills into powder.  I'm on my third week  of doing my pill, 

I'm also thinking on what I would do if I ran out, I will send brass monkey this maybe tomorrow.
 

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9 hours ago, street129 said:

@Frogie

 Hi hope your taper is going smoothly, I am still making my pills into powder.  I'm on my third week  of doing my pill, 

I'm also thinking on what I would do if I ran out, I will send brass monkey this maybe tomorrow.
 

Hi:

 

My taper is going as smoothly as possible. I wake with a little anxiety, but that seems to be normal for me as my body is receiving less Xanax than it has for over 20 years. But, I’ll be fine. I just distract myself a lot.

 

 I’m glad you are getting yourself ready for your taper. 

 

As as long as your dr continues to prescribe your Trazodone, you are not going to run out of tablets. Is there a reason he would stop giving you a prescription? I would hope not.

 

Keep me posted.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

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street129

@brassmonkey

 

I have completed transfering my power for the first month. Haven't started taking my first week as yet I want to have mulitple months to keep me going

I don't think I would be in the mood to be making them once I start and end up with  WD.

I would appreciate if I can get the third and forth calculation of my mg. Also do you know the mg off of my 250mg with the first week  of 0.563. thank you

[Week one: 570 X .9875 = 563 This is the weight of your first weeks dose.  The display on the scale will show 0.563.]

I'm doing my 2ND month 
 
the same calculations but will use 542 instead of 570.

Week one: 542 X .9875 = 535

Week two 542 X .975 = 529

Week three 542 X .962 = 522

Weeks four through six 542 X .95 = 515


I'm doing my power into capsule I'm on my 2ND month filling them up as it's a challenge I must say.
Appreciate your help.

 

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Just to make sure that you are making enough doses the calculations are for six weeks worth not a month.  The last line covers three weeks.

 

For your third round of reductions it would go like this:

Week one: 515 X  .9875 = 509

Week two: 515 X .975 = 502

Week three: 515 X .962 = 495

Weeks four thru six 515 X .95 = 489

 

For your fourth round of reductions it would go like this:

Week one: 489 X .9875 = 483

Week two 489 X .975 = 477

Week three 489 X .962 = 470

Weeks four thru six 489 X .95 = 465

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@brassmonkey

yes thanks for the reminder.  When I start my first dose.

 

for example to begin:

Week one: 570 X .9875 = 563

Week two: 570 X .975 = 556

Week three: 570 X .962 = 548

Weeks four through six: 570 X .95 = 542

 

Weeks four thru six: 570 X .95 = 542      <<<<<<< this is the week i hold 2 extra weeks at 542, can i hold 3 extra @ 542, if not feeling ok to move on since my system is very sensitive but

also if i do the 3 weeks hold would i have to do it with every starting new month of the last week.

i hope im making sense, thanks.

 

 

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There would not be a problem with holding for three weeks if you feel that you need it.  You need to hold at least two weeks each time but if you need three or four that's fine.  It all depends on how things feel on that round of reductions.

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im just touching base, im using someone laptop, mines is mess up and in bestbuy

getting repair at a whooping 450.00.i could have discarded it, but i didnt want to cut ties' 

so im asking for my next 2 sets of mg when you get time. i appreciate it, thank you.

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Hi Street-- I really hate computer problems, mine's been acting up lately too.  With luck I can squeeze another year out of it.  Just replaced my phone and am still getting use to it.

 

I already sent you the numbers for rounds three and four (several post above) so are you looking for rounds five and six now or do you need three and four again?

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oh so sorry I didn't specify,  I would need five and six thank you so, so sorry.
 

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Hi Mr. Brassmonkey, I hope all is well with you.


I got my laptop and I do need my round 5 and 6 to continue my taper cause I have no idea how to do my taper,  thank you so much. I cannot continue cause I don't know how

 

 

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Glad you got the laptop sorted.  Computer problems can be such a pain.  

 

Here are the numbers for your fifth and sixth rounds

 

For your fifth round of reductions it would go like this:

Week one: 465 X  .9875 = 459

Week two: 465 X .975 = 453

Week three: 465 X .962 = 447

Weeks four thru six 465 X .95 = 442

 

For your sixth round of reductions it would go like this:

Week one: 442 X .9875 = 436

Week two 442 X .975 = 431

Week three 442 X .962 = 425

Weeks four thru six 442 X .95 = 420

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@brassmonkey


Thank you, I would like your thoughts on a situation I will be facing real soon, I'm making my taper and I'm excited of this process, I would appreciate your imput,  my daughter had a miscarriage back in June of 2019, and she's one of those people that CANNOT get pregnant naturally so she has been doing the IUI's  to help her get pregnant, for about the last 3-4 years,  my concern is I want to be in able body when she start her process again during her cycle which is any day now.

Can me starting taking my  doses ect,  [cause I know what happened to me in 2017] , and having  horrible reaction to meds, even tho I did it all wrong,


i have now an experience help from you, so I'm very secured knowing you're there, thank you, but i need to be there for my daughter in her time of need  but it's my system I don't fully trust,


I need not to be bed ridden or feeling withdrawals at presant.


If you have any  suggestion moving forward it will help a great deal. You can ask me anything with this issue. And if you don't have any imput, that's ok too. Never the less Thank you kindly.

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I think your experience this time will be a lot different than the one from 2017. I think caring for your daughter is going to be a wonderful distraction and if you let it, will really take your mind off of your tapering.  I wouldn't worry about any symptoms until they show up and start to be a problem.  There will be some, but don't let them get in the way until they really demand attention.  Tapering should just be something you do, not something you worry about.  So until it gives you something to worry about, ignore it and get on with doing what needs to be done.  Many WD symptoms are like unwanted house guests, they demand your attention for every little thing, but if you ignore them long enough they go away.

 

Best of luck to you daughter, I hope everything goes well. It should with you looking out for her.

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@brassmonkey

Good evening Sir, I'm hoping all is well with you.

I'm reaching a point within my trazadone that Im running out of the ones that I had for a good long time.

Do you know of any places that I can order them I do get a subscription monthly, also I was told on here that my trazadone has to be by the same manufacture which is TEVA,, any help will be appreciated. 

 I crush a bunch today,  which I'm low on, and I would appreciate the 7 and 8 reductions of rounds.  Thank you always

I also noticed the less mg i make the easier to distribute in the empty pills,


thanks for all your help, may you stay safe and bless in all that you do proudly

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