DMV64: reinstate Saphris?

[DMV64]

I am sick with another sinus infection. I feel desperate. I am doing everything I can for my allergies to Zelda. I can’t keep getting sick and being on antibiotics and sick again. But I can’t imagibe letting her go. Tonight it feels like I will have to. 

[neroli]

Hello DMV64

 

Just popping in.  Saying hello and hoping you've had some breaks from the anxiety.  It's such a nice feeling when you can spend an hour or so enjoying a simple activity without that restless agitation of anxiety.

 

Thoughts are with you.

 

Oh, I've just seen your latest post when I submitted this message.  How distressing to have the sinus infection.  Hope it clears soon and Zelda can stay with you.

 

Neroli 💜

[Rabe]

Hi DMV...you never had these before getting Zelda?  I am so sorry!  I so hope things get better soon.  Take care!!💜

[DMV64]

No not really. I went through a time in my 30s that I had sinus infections but that was due to reflux. It’s just that I’m so full of mucus from being allergic to her that I’m kind of like a walking petri dish and I keep getting infections. We’re doing everything we can over here so I’m on antibiotics again and actually I’m looking at possible sinus surgery. Part of the problem is that I have a deviated septum and really narrow sinus passages that they feel surgery could help with drainage so I might do it. 

[DMV64]

@JanCarol I’m really pretty nervous about how sinus surgery is going to affect my taper. Also having to be on antibiotics again is making me feel a lot of symptoms. I think that’s normal but it still feels terrible. I don’t know what I can do about the sinus surgery other than not to have it, which doesn’t seem like a great option in light of all the other problems I’ve been having

[DMV64]

Can the antibiotics make you feel even worse anxious? I’ve been put on Augmentin. Anybody I appreciate your input

[ChessieCat]

There are many existing topics on this site.  I like to use google and add survivingantidepressants.org to my search term.

 

cipro-levaquin-azithromycin-z-pack-and-other-antibiotics

[DMV64]

Thank you I will look through it. The Augmentin usually doesn’t cause me too many problems but I can’t say I feel good on it. In this case it seems to have upped my anxiety considerably. I don’t know if that’s just complicated by the fact that I’m thinking about whether or not I’m going to have to find a home for my dog and how upsetting that is. I mean I can get the sinus surgery and I’m sure that will help because I have really narrow sinus passages and nasal passages. And I’m getting the allergy shots and I know It’s due to my inflammation from the allergies. I’m worn out from being sick and having infections and having to take antibiotics. I’m trying to find Zelda a temporary home or maybe I can get the surgery and get some more shots under my belt and see if I can bring her back. That’s the only thing I can think of right now

[Rabe]

Hi DMV...I just wanted to share the post on my thread...put in there for thought...but has to do with histamine intolerance and meds....antidepressants are on there but others as well.  I thought of you.  I dont know if any is fact...but  have found it very interesting to see most of the meds I have been allergic to along the way, including the recent one for my electrolytes and many antibiotics, on the list.  This is where I found the list but I have found other ones as well but cant remember exactly where.  

My daughter has small ear canals and because of that has had repetitive ear infections that lead to sinus infections her whole life...repetitive.

It is interesting.  SO hope you feel better soon.  I want to say that yes, for me most antibiotics have caused anxiety even in best of times....are on the list as well.  In any case...thought you might want check it out.  Interesting.  Take care DMV.  HUGS!  

Medicines That Cause Histamine Intolerance | Alison Vickery

https://alisonvickery.com.au/drug_allergy/

[neroli]

Hi DMV

 

I do hope you can get something sorted out - all this on top of withdrawal.  I had a root canal done - 2 x 1 1/2 hour sessions three weeks apart and while I had anticipatory anxiety, it was actually ok having the procedure and he gave me non-epeneprhine anaesthetic, so I didn't have raised anxiety from that.

 

I hope your procedures, whatever they may be, are as smooth as possible.

 

Neroli 💜

[DMV64]

17 hours ago, neroli said:

so I didn't have raised anxiety from that.

Thank GOD for that! Geez. 

Well, today we looked into finding a home, hopefully temporary one, for Zelda. So I can build up more immunity from my shots. And probably get the sinus surgery. And get well from all the reoccurring infections. A friend has offered to give fostering her a try and we have a few other leads. I am so sad though. What will I do without my buddy? I am actually a little afraid of being without her. I can only hope this is a solution that will allow me to keep he but I know there are no guarantees. Thinking of all my friends on this board and hoping you had a good day. It snowed here and a lot of things closed for the day so I have had a lot of time to myself. Which is a mixed bag but at least midday my anxiety died down. 

Trying to let go. Trying to accept. xoxo

[JanCarol]

Hey D - 

 

On 2/2/2019 at 1:00 AM, DMV64 said:

When I had my cortisol checked it was actually low in the morning at 8:30am. Don’t know what that means.

 

It doesn't mean doodly squat, because it was not taken while you were having a spike.  It was taken after you got up, got out of bed, got ready to go out, and got to the doctor's office.  That's the problem with these tests, they seem and sound so definitive, but they really don't take the whole situation into account.  It's possible that, if you took a spit test, and spit in the tube at the EXACT time you were having a spike, you might get an accurate reading as to when your cycles are...but usually the schedule they give you for the spit test doesn't correlate to your cycle.  

 

Example, I took an IGG allergy blood test.  It listed all the foods I had eaten in the last 24 hours as foods I was sensitive too.  That's because really it only measures reactions to foods you have eaten, not to ALL foods.  So - if I had kept a log of everything I had eaten, and cross checked it to the list on the IGG test - I still wouldn't know what that means.  And what about the foods that I eat infrequently?

 

Diagnostics can be useful, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket.

 

On 2/5/2019 at 7:40 AM, DMV64 said:

It’s like a bad acid trip. I happen to have a drug history and now I’m clean and sober so if you never had that experience you might not know what I’m talking about.

 

What I learned from "bad" acid trips - is that they end.  This may seem longer than a "bad" acid trip, which makes it especially challenging.

The other thing I learned from "bad" acid trips, is that there's usually adjustments I can make inside - to my awareness, my breathing, my focus, my attention, to make it easier.  I think this is why the Wim Hof is helpful for you.

 

On 2/8/2019 at 12:35 AM, DMV64 said:

I can’t help compare what it feels like other people are able to do as opposed to what I am able to do.

 

Oh that has got to go away.  But I confess, I've been dealing with that feeling for 20 years, and - while I've learned to pace myself, and do what I can, as I can, and relax about it - it is frustrating that I get so little done.  A productive day for me is to teach or take a class, write a post, maybe make something, or work on making something...maybe I got to the Post Office, maybe I got some laundry done.  I don't know how most people do it - and I would venture to say that - the people who can do it are headed for breakdown, sooner or later.  The pace of our system and society is not a healthy one.

Most people make their money from that "pound of flesh," they are productive at cost to their health, their relationships, and their own well-being.

 

On 2/8/2019 at 12:35 AM, DMV64 said:

It’s hard not to feel like everyone is just more functional than I am.

 

But what you don't know is what's going on with them.  Maybe they are wrecked inside in order to be functional.  Maybe they are younger than you.  Maybe they are more driven, ambitious than you.  Maybe they do a lot at the cost of doing it well, and you'd prefer to do it well.  

Everybody's different.  And again - "functional" in today's society exacts a price.  You may not see that price - it may be decades before the heart gives out (frequent in high achievers) or other health problems set in.

 

What we see on the outside of others does not reflect what is really going on for them.

Let's pretend.  You and I are in a room for a class.  You show up, looking polished, I show up looking dishevelled.  I think:  "darn, I should've brushed my teeth and hair, at least, and put on some clean clothes!" But what I don't realise is that you took an hour of back and forth to choose your clothes, put on your make up, and that you are looking really sharp - but also really uptight.  You look over at dishevelled me, and notice that I am "getting it," in the groove, learning and seeming more "functional" than you.  You think, "darn, I wish I could be as productive as her," but you don't realise that it's taken 10 years of brain training for me to be able to concentrate for an hour in a room full of people,  or that I had to confront fear of traffic, people, noise, etc., just to sit in that room at all.

 

We never really know what is going on with other people's journeys.  

There but for the Grace of G-d, go I.

I'm here to post about your sinuses...but I'll keep reading.

I hope you see the Sun today!

 

 

 

[JanCarol]

On 2/11/2019 at 5:54 PM, neroli said:

 I'm almost convinced I'm never going to enjoy life again and I get so jealous of "normal" people out running or walking and enjoying themselves when I'm dragging two lead legs around.

 

I remember going into a bank.  This was before lithium destroyed so much of me, but I was still struggling with mood and psych drugs.

 

I walked into the bank, and chose a teller.  There she was, sitting behind her window, dressed to the nines in business attire.  Not a hair was out of place.  She smiled, and was beautiful when she smiled.  She had a photo of her family at her window, and they looked like a normal, happy family.  I very nearly screamed, because I had come to believe that this wasn't possible!  NOBODY was normal!  How could she - take the kids to school, work a full time job, support her husband in his work, come home, feed the kids, clean house, and then get up and do it again?  Probably did cross-stitch in her spare time, or some other amazing craft.  

 

BUT - again, that was the outside.  Maybe she had to really whip herself into a frenzy to do her hair and face so beautifully.  Maybe she was dragging her feet on the way to work this morning, but she has a work ethic, so she is wearing a smile, even when she doesn't feel it inside.  We can't compare the outside of others to the inside of us.  It's like comparing the airbrushed model in a magazine to how the model actually looks and feels.  Or comparing a picture of an apple pie to the actual apple pie.  As my husband says, "chalk and cheese."

 

On 2/11/2019 at 9:31 AM, Rabe said:

Hope you can know that and know that just taking the class is remarkable!!!💜

YES!   I know people who cannot leave the house.  People who cannot be around other people.  People who cannot sit still long enough to take a class.  People who cannot read the book or pay attention for an entire hour.  

There but for the Grace of G-d, go I.

 

On 2/19/2019 at 9:44 PM, DMV64 said:

I’m really pretty nervous about how sinus surgery is going to affect my taper. Also having to be on antibiotics again is making me feel a lot of symptoms. I think that’s normal but it still feels terrible. I don’t know what I can do about the sinus surgery other than not to have it, which doesn’t seem like a great option in light of all the other problems I’ve been having

 

OKAY, I just happened to be watching these videos, which offer non drug ways to open and expand the sinuses.  These are S-L-O-W methods, and may not give you the quick results that surgery might - but consider them.
 

 

 

 

I'm not a fan of surgery, however, when my father had his septum repaired, he said it was wonderful.

 

I hope these provide something useful for you, and - I hope you see the sun today!  (I've got a cyclone on my doorstep, estimated landfall in the next 24-48 hours, wheeeeeee!)

 

[DMV64]

Thank you as usual for all your wisdom. And her the videos I watch them later I’m just waking up lying in bed and reading your messages. I’m glad to hear that the surgery really helped your father. I am pretty much leaning toward it, having a deviated septum repaired and the passages made wider. 

You know I really know the fact that I can’t compare my insides were other people there outside I have been so much for me. I have to work so hard not to do it

[DMV64]

 I think we found a neighbor down the street who is willing to foster Zelda. I’m not sure if it’s temporary or permanent yet. But I hope it’s temporary and that I can just get better and maybe have the sinus surgery and the shots start to work and then we can take her back. Right now I just feel sad. 

[Rosetta]

((DMV)). I know this is sad for you.  All my love, Rosetta

[DMV64]

Thank you Rosetta.  My heart hurts today. House seems empty. 

[bheb]

Oh no DMV, I'm sorry you had to give up a pet. That's so hard. I hope the allergy stress calms down for you soon. 

[neroli]

Hello DMV64

 

I just tried to answer your kind message on my thread but when I submitted it I got an error message.

 

The short answer to how I'm doing is just getting on as best as I can.

 

I'm so sorry to hear about Zelda, I know dogs can be such lovely companions, so I hope you can work out that she isn't causing you allergies.

 

love to you

 

xx

 

Neroli 💜

[DMV64]

7 hours ago, neroli said:

I hope you can work out

I hope so. I am sad this morning without her and you know I just don't need anymore sadness.

I am glad to hear you are doing best you can, its what we all are trying for. 

Thanks for checking in....

xo

[Carmie]

Hi DMV, 

 

I’m so sorry you were allergic to your dog, that must be very upsetting for you. Animals are the best! Are you able to get another pet? 

 

Sending hugs🤗

[DMV64]

 I’m actually hoping that I can take her back. That after some time passes and I get well from being sick with sinus infection after sinus infection and the blowing air heat goes off and I get some more allergy shots under my belt, I can bring her back. I hope. 

[Rosetta]

I hope so, too, DMV.  I really do.  (((DMV))).  I thought I had allergies and was prescribed an inhaler.  I only needed it for one Spring after I quit sertraline.  Last Spring, I didn't have the allergies any longer.  It was probably because of the quick taper that I was allergic to pollen for the first time in my life.  So, that's a reason to think you may get over it.  What strange effects these drugs and WD have on us. -R

[DMV64]

Yes I definitely feel that with drawl is a part of this. So does my husband. My body is working so hard and just kind of worn down you know? I’m sure Miamian system is affected.

[DMV64]

I spent a good part of today with an old friend that I haven’t seen in like 15 years or more. And while it was really lovely I have to say it took a lot out of me. I have to remember to moderate my activity through this process. I don’t feel good now. But I did it to myself. Hopefully I will remember next time

[Rabe]

Oh DMV...I am so sorry about buddy.  I too hope things get better for you and you will be able to have her back.  Take care of you!💜

[Rosetta]

I'm glad you had time with your friend.

[JanCarol]

Hey D - 

 

I'm sorry that Zelda had to move out.  Big hugs!

However, there's a very real chance that your healing will be facilitated by this.  You will no longer have the irritant (allergy) in the house, and no longer have to deal with the remedies (antihistamines, shots) that interrupt your healing.  Additionally - maybe you can spend some time not sick!  That would be awesome, eh?

And if she is in your neighbourhood, or kept by friends - you can visit her!  

I hope you see the sun today!

[DMV64]

Hi there. Well actually I’m hoping that if I keep getting the shots that I will be able to take her back. I’ve been sick so many times in a row that it’s hard to tell what’s what. I’ve been able to visit her. But I really miss her and I would like to have her back here so I’m hoping that continuing to get the shots and waiting for the forced air heating to go off while let that happen

[DMV64]

It’s very depressing without her

[neroli]

Hello DMV64

 

I'm so sorry you are having to live without Zelda at the moment.  It does leave a big hole.  I'm glad you have your husband as support.

 

Here's hoping that things will settle and you will be able to sort out if you have an allergy, or the shots will help.

 

Sending you warm wishes

 

xxxx Neroli 💜

[DMV64]

Thank you.  I miss her so. I hope I can get better. The shots work. Everything. Thanks for thinking of me. I visited her this morning. 

[Rosetta]

(((DMV)))

[DMV64]

Just coming back from the ENT. It looks like sinus surgery for me. I’m kind of feeling overwhelmed with everything and how sick I’ve been and now he found out there’s mold in our basement so maybe I’m not allergic to my dog at all! I know I’m allergic to mold.

[DMV64]

I suppose the bright spot is that I have had a few good days. And I have to really remember that. But it’s not always bad. There are bright spots

[Rabe]

Hi DMV.  Whoa!  The mold!  That would do it.  It could very well be that you are not allergic to Zelda at all!  She could come home. Thats a nice thought!  But first I hope you start o get better and better after the surgery!  Take care DMV!!!  Hugs to you! 💜