Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted May 13, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) I can try Miguel. I just have a little time this morning so did a general search. Several different sites came up loaded with information to sift through. You could do this as well I presume. Are you looking for the chemical composition? I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. What does your new liquid prescription say on the label? Concentration and manufacturer? Did it come with a dropper or a small syringe? Is it the Cipralex made by Lundeback? If so.........you'll find more information on that in the first post here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/406-tips-for-tapering-off-lexapro-escitalopram/ I extracted this part from that link which talks about the 20mg : 1mL concentration and diluting it for more accuracy. It also talks about the 10mg: 1mL concentration so don't get confused. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ NOTE: In the UK, the liquid form is available at a 10mg:1mL or 20mg:1mL concentration -- very inconvenient for tapering. One version of the liquid form is Cipralex from Lundbeck. To take 1mg of the 10:1 liquid, use the small slim 1mL oral syringe to take 0.1mL (one-tenth milliliter). The 1mL oral syringe has 10 ticks within .1mL, enabling taking .01mL (one-hundreth milliliter) or, given the 10:1 concentration, .1mg (one-tenth milligram) escitalopram. This information from Lundbeck, a manufacturer of escitalopram drops in Europe, http://www.medicines.org.uk/EMC/medicine/21976/SPC/Cipralex+5,+10+and+20+mg+film-coated+tablets+and+20+mg+ml+oral+drops,+solution/ (Miguel, this link comes up blank now. If you type in Cipralex however you will find the information and perhaps what you are looking for as far as composition) suggests the liquid form can be diluted with water: Quote Cipralex oral drops, solution: A bottle with dropper applicator or an oral syringe may be used for administration. The oral syringe bears a graduation in mg referring to the escitalopram dose. Cipralex oral drops, solution can be mixed with water, orange juice or apple juice. Since water is part of the original formulation, it is unlikely additional water will cause the dilution to degrade. However, being exposed to light, etc. may do this, so it is unclear how long a diluted solution will last in potency. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Did you get some 1mL syringes? You will need to accurately measure out the 0.5mL (which contains 10mg of escitalopram) and then add to 9.5mL of water. You will then have a 1mg: 1mL concentrated solution. You'll need a larger syringe, a 10mL size to measure out 7.65mL for your dosage. If you have to round up......do so. 7.7mL may not have a marking but eyeball between the 7.6mL and 7.8mL and then stay consistent. Miguel, Here is another link for you too that you should study. The video's in the first post seem to have expired but if you will read through at least the first several posts that should help. There are some images of syringes further down. http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/235-using-an-oral-syringe-and-other-tapering-techniques/?_report=1575 Have you switched over already Miguel? Okay, all for now. Celebrating motherhood today! Love, peace, healing, and growth, mmt Edited May 13, 2018 by manymoretodays linkage clarification Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 @manymoretodays Escitalopram, 20mg/ml,Gotas orais,soluçao.conta-gotas-15 ml That's exactly whats written in the prescription i wanna know the exact composition of the liquid Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted May 13, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 13, 2018 From: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2009/021323s032,021365s023lbl.pdf Lexapro oral solution [...] It also contains the following inactive ingredients: sorbitol, purified water, citric acid, sodium citrate, malic acid, glycerin, propylene glycol, methylparaben, propylparaben, and natural peppermint flavor. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 @ChessieCat ty hope you doing ok Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 quick update > 2 days ago I took melatonin again to try to see if it still affects me and yes it did work but woke up whit lower scores on depression and suicidal thoughts even dow the are really minor now brain fog is finally going away since I started tapering 2. Bilastine aka a European anti-histamine that is low in side effects and really good anti-allergy medication has a hidden danger on people that have a really sensitive CNS that includes briefly audio flashbacks like an audio Dejavu (last between 1 to 10 s ) Worsening of depression scores: Degree of effect (Low to medium-low worsening of Nero-fear(mild) Conclusion only take it if you really bad off and then stop the use of it I only took it yesterday because I had an allergic reaction to my Eliquid aka Vape and I started to feel strange and my nose Closed up and felt like difficulty breathing and had tons of mucus production and some tints of blood prob caused by all the sneezing Quick Question 1-I have been taking my medication at 12 in the afternoon and I have experience disruptive sleep at night (fall a sleep and wake up after 1 or 2 hours several times in the night) it does not always happen but it's frequent I did sleep in the afternoon but because I got drowsy from the Bilastine it also didn't happen when I took melatonin but the harm outways the benefits Shude I pull the med time even further back? wikilink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilastine Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 @Altostrata hi i got a problem here whit my liquid Lexapro first of all its not generic its brand Lexapro straing from the original maker or inventor H. Lundbeck 2-it has an inserted dropper inside the bottle each drop equals 1 mg my question is do I just pop the dropper from the bottle or will it destroy the bottle Ps: I already removed the dropper from inside do I have to put it back in or do I toss it Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 14, 2018 Administrator Share Posted May 14, 2018 I don't understand your question, Miguel. Is this a special measuring cap on the bottle? It is not necessary if there is an outer cap that can seal the bottle. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Altostrata said: I don't understand your question, Miguel. Is this a special measuring cap on the bottle? It is not necessary if there is an outer cap that can seal the bottle. btw will it be that different in terms of side effects or will it have benefits compared to generic ps:https://www.google.pt/search?q=H.+Lundbeck+cipralex&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp4IrO2oXbAhWpa5oKHeerA0UQ_AUoAnoECAAQBA&biw=1920&bih=949#imgrc=SzreR_k0FP55tM: actual box Edited May 14, 2018 by MiguelFreeman Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 14, 2018 Administrator Share Posted May 14, 2018 What's your guess? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 @Altostratathey shude be close in terms of effects but ofc they are not exactly the same basically, am switching from a generic made in a small lab that makes tons of generics to the lab that invented it so might fell some effects just hope they don't ramp up to idiotic levels the experience that I gained in here I see that sometimes the switch can slap has hard but for that i have a longer holding period ty for your time and hope you are doing fine MiguelFreeman Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 its funny they say don't mix Lexapro and alcohol but they put the liquid whit 96 % ... Sodium hydroxide on it this drugs company's don't stop to impress me Propyl gallate Citric acid anhydrous Ethanol 96% Sodium hydroxide Purified water. Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Skeeter Posted May 15, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 15, 2018 14 hours ago, MiguelFreeman said: "hi skeeter hope you doing fine I finally acquired brand Lexapro and I got it from the original lab that invented it so its the pure of the purest brand I hope this will actually help those GI issues that you said that was caused by the generics and hope i will adapt okay since i cant do the transition since i don't have more pills or prescriptions for the pills " Miguel, I have been quite sick (from sugarless gum). I posted under a different thread and forum (under symptoms, artificial sweeteners, or something similar, but need to move it to my own thread as well, I have been posting very, very little. I was nearly as sick as I was when I was in acute benzo withdrawal (I think you said you read my thread, at least the first page, as that spells the worst out). Even though it was only severe for 24 hours, it has been a seemingly long road of exhaustion and fatigue to get back to "normal." You will see why I was gone once I post it on my regular thread, too. My thread points at a linear recovery, but I have had setbacks with mental issues (confusion, headaches, insomnia, cog fog), which I believe I mentioned in my post. It has been hard to post when my brain has felt quite scrambled, but it is coming around. At the bottom of this post is where my recent issue has been: Note: I did not say that the generic was causing YOU GI issues. I said that it gave me GI issues, and you might want to look into that.I also found out that when I reported it on the FDA site, others had had the same issue as well. Not a large group,, but some people certainly did! I had ZERO issue going from generic to brand name, I see you went to liquid. I thought that was the generic "escitalopram", not the brand name Lexapro (does your label say "Lexapro" or escitalopram? If it says escitalopram no matter who produces it, it should not be as expensive, yay!). This is the liquid I suggested you go to before, as it does not have the coating ingredients. But yes, Lexapro (also without the coating) made me feel SO much better. You had a lot of changes, and decreased too soon and too quickly after a huge drop/change, so GI issues can arise from that, or you may have unrelated GI issues. Sadly it is not a one sixe fits all situation. Good luck. Be well, Skeeter Current meds: Lexapro 20mg, Valium 6.25mg Current status: September 2018 forced to go down to 10mg of Valium/Diazepam from around 15mg, with the plan to have me totally of in 2 more months. I was not given a chance to give input at tapering at this speed, please go much, much slower. Luckily I found a new doctor, but was thrown off course by my rapid taper, as of 2/19 am down to 6.25mg, and am stable. Will update with dates of taper ASAP. Read my history here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/12819-skeeters-journey/ I am NOT a doctor. My opinions are just that- MY opinions, based on my personal experiences and research, but your experience and reactions may differ greatly, we are all different! I maintain that a doctor educated in withdrawal is the best place to get info or to get the "go ahead" before changing your medications in any way! Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 Hi all I am here to say that I am starting to notice improvements in my mental status since I switched to parma Lexapro liquid thus proving that my homemade liquid was probably not correct or maybe the molecule was getting change since the water was not purified thus having contaminants that may be changing the molecule . Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 i am here to report further changes Possible Mild brain zaps and pins and needs on my troath 90 %sure its just an adjustment the brain is making since its mostly nerve related Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 i did notice increase in suicidal thoughts that come in waves Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 Also new symptoms : drowziness and dizzines amd vertigo Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted May 17, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 17, 2018 10 hours ago, MiguelFreeman said: i did notice increase in suicidal thoughts that come in waves Boa tarde, Miguel, It sounds like you're having quite the mixed bag of symptoms: some improvements and some new symptoms also. I'm glad you are 90% sure they are nerve/medication change related. They definitely are. I'm sorry to hear you are having suicidal thoughts. It sounds like you are able to notice and observe them, and know that they are chemically caused, right? Still very unpleasant. Thanks for letting us know how you're doing, and please keep us posted. 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 @SkyBlue ye I forgot to tell you guys I had blood work today and I have been feeling fatigue and Gi disturbance like gas and loose stools, burning stomach So basically IBS like symptoms pretty common on WD I also had a really bad Depressed Dip but I eventually got back up whit the help of my mother but the fatigue is amazingly strong Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 small update turns out I was actually taking 7.66 homemade so today I turn it down to 7.64 since the homemade was definitely not right Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 sorry for this reply but could not edit the previous one New symptoms arrived today Forgetfulness exactly the same has when I was at 20 mg and brain zaps on my left brain hemisphere Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Update Had a good window of like 3 days and got put back on a wave been having minor brain zaps on my left side of my brain and a minor eye strain on my left eye I took my med at 11a.m and I went to clean my house and had a major brain zap on my left side of the brain it felt like when i got shocked by my pc charger it was really strong after that, i feel tired and dizzy and got minor brain zaps again Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted May 21, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 21, 2018 Hi Miguel, It is great news you had a window. Wow, the brain zap sounds like it was really intense. Please take good care and keep letting us know how you're doing. 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted May 21, 2018 Moderator Share Posted May 21, 2018 Hi Miguel-- I'm glad you're getting a nice window every now and then, that show real improvement. I am worried about all zapps you've been mentioning. They're usually an indication that a person is reducing too fast. I know that you are taking care with your taper but it might be time to take a break for a couple of months and let things stabilize. Just to mention it mine were always left to right when they happened, I wonder if there is something to that. Brass 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 @brassmonkeythey were realy minor and i think it might be caused by my eye strain but today i realy felt it just once ,they headaches i was getting were like thingeling sensation on the left side i also got a stuffy nose and my sinues are inflammed ,outher than that they only real zap i had that i am 100sure it was a brain zap was the one i had today were i turned my head and had a massive zap felt like a when you put your finger on a plug it was realy strong and after that i was dizzie and felt the thingeling get stronger . Ps:zaps go from middele left to down the left side of my face And alsp they sensatipn start after i takey daily dose and go down has the day progresses, I will keep holding until i stabilize Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Dalalea Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 On 5/21/2018 at 5:48 AM, MiguelFreeman said: and I went to clean my house and had a major brain zap on my left side of the brain I'm glad you had a nice little window but sorry about the brain zaps! I hope you get it figured out soon! Major brain zaps when cleaning my house would make me want to stop cleaning! 🙂 Dalalea Dalalea's Introduction Off All SSRI Medications: Effexor 2010 one monthSertraline 50 mg. but only took 25 mg. daily because of dizziness. 2010 to July 2017 Tapered over 2 months beginning the 1st of June 2017 -- Off Sertraline by July 30, 2017 Current Medication: Losartan (blood pressure), Albuterol (for asthma- only as needed)Current Symptoms: tinnitus, hearing loss in one ear, allergies My Plan: Prayer, Scripture, Walk, Yoga, Encourage Others, Healthy EatingGeneric SSRI Withdrawal Symptom and Plan Checklists and Graph.xlsx Current Supplements: Magnesium Threonate, Fish Oil, probiotic, B-12, C, D-3 Current Essential Oils: Frankincense, Bergamot, Orange, Lemon, Lavender, Peppermint, CloveCurrent Essential Oil Blends: Brain Power, Clarity, Stress Away Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 22, 2018 Administrator Share Posted May 22, 2018 How often do you have a zap, Miguel? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 @Altostrata sensation that i am 100% sure was a zap only once The other sensation is like a very mild electrical sensation Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 22, 2018 Administrator Share Posted May 22, 2018 You don't have to report occasional symptoms. We all know about waves and windows, correct? What we want to know about is a significant change in symptom pattern. This is something that might be consistent over a number of days. Please note that every time you post about a symptom, site staff tries to read it and respond. This takes time that we might spend helping someone who is new and having a hard time. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 @Altostrata totaly agree i only posted that to make sure the difrence between a real brain zap or a sensation caused by other reason since the sensation comes and goes i am quite sure it was caused by my eye strain ,now i know the real difrence between a zap or other sensation that its irrelevant ,but sorry for wasting your time . Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 So my mother decided to go off at 5 mg of Lexapro and she said that she ain't going back on them I can notice that she is already in wd because she is moody more lets hope she does not react has bad has me she only been taking it for 5 -8months and she does not take it consistently i have tried to tell her to let me help her on the taper and to go slow but she does not listen Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted May 31, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/28/2018 at 5:00 PM, MiguelFreeman said: So my mother decided to go off at 5 mg of Lexapro and she said that she ain't going back on them I can notice that she is already in wd because she is moody more lets hope she does not react has bad has me she only been taking it for 5 -8months and she does not take it consistently i have tried to tell her to let me help her on the taper and to go slow but she does not listen Hi Miguel, Yes, I hope that her withdrawal will not be bad. You can always invite her to visit these forums. But yes, it sounds very challenging that you have offered to help her taper slowly and she isn't listening. ❤️ 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Update> Been having severe chest tightness feels like someone is squeezing my chest and lack of air and irritability started 1 week and a half ago no changes in dose the 7.65 to 7.64 was not a drop I was actually in a much lower dose when I was on the homemade at least for what I felt when I change to parma liquid this sucks but well this has been a long wave My mother went back on the med again and she will taper on my advice after she stabilizes and she will taper for 5% brass monkey slide Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Update: got a job working in the night time has a baker. it has been 2 months and a couple of days and I have been feeling better and better, suicidal thoughts are on the lowest and most days they don't even happen and I am recovering nicely I am here to ask for advice on about restarting the taper I wanna go even slower than 7 % on the brass monkey slide because I don't wanna have big impairments when I am working so if possible can someone give me the maths for the taper of 5 % brass monkey slide Ty and I have also quite nicotine about 1 and half weeks ago so still having gi problems because of that but they are going away Edited June 13, 2018 by ChessieCat unitalicised font and formatred text for easier reading Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted June 13, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 13, 2018 Hi Miguel and congratulations on the job. That is great news. Because you have only recently quit nicotine it might be worthwhile leaving it for another few weeks (at least 3) before you restart your taper. Brass Monkey Slide taper instructions. Instead of calculating 10% you would calculate 5%. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 @ChessieCat hi updating i had to leave that job after 12 days the conditions of work were horrible and it was super stressful and since people their had problems whit my dad in the pass I was kinda their revenge opportunity but I did eventually have to defend my shelf , I didn't lose my job because of having enter in 2 a fight whit a 38 y old man I decided to quit since it was making me go downhill and my body was rebelling against me i am already looking for a more decent job on a big company or something were the actual rules of work will be followed and were I will not work 55 hours in a week it was causing me a lot of physical problems including tension headaches, vomiting due to stress and gi distress i will give a couple more days and i will resume my taper Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Update > Dose decreased from 7.64 to 7.52 =1.57% drop Next drop in 1 week wil be »7.40 =1.6% after that week it will be »7.28(1.62%) then after that week the next drop will be »7.16(1.65%) in a total of 6.44 % from 7.64 and we will hold for one month after that Taper resumed at 28/6/2018 at 11.55 a.m Second drop at :05/07/2018 third drop at : 12/07/2018 fourth drop at :19/07/2018 hold 1 mouth and 1 week concluding at 26/08/2018 and we will resume at 27/08/2018 the next slide. Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
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