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My directions say to calibrate it without the bowl, using only the small weights that came with it.

Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016.

Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017

July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg;  Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018.

Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg.  Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020

Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks.  

June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks.

June 23, 2020  = 16.66 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg

2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg.....Oct. 9 = 6.08 mg.....Dec. 4 = 5.12 mg......Jan. 21, 2022 = 4.16mg.....Mar. 26 = 3.20mg......May 7 = 1.92mg....June 11 = 1.6mg.....July 23= 1.28 mg.....Aug. 13 = 0.96 mg.....Sept. 1 =O mg.

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Thanks Artistic1, one more: Do I need to take half of the gelatin capsules and half a pill for the body to get used to the change?

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25-Oct - Hospitalized, Started taking Amisulpride. Dec- Ami 800mg, Biperiden 2mg, Clonazepam 1.5mg. 2017 - Jan-1000mg, Feb-800mg, Apr-600mg. 14May-(Got out of the hospital) Ami 400, Propranolol 30mg, Biperiden 8mg, Dec - Ami 400, Biperiden 8mg  2018Apr - Ami 400, Stopped Biperiden at 2mg.

2018Jul - CT'ed, 2019Jan - Alprazolam 0.25mg, 2019Feb - Hospitalized and Reinstated 

2019 - Feb-800mg, Mar-1200mg, Apr-1000mg, May-800mg, Jun-600mg, Dec-400mg 2021 - Apr-350mg, May-300mg, Jun-250mg, Nov-225mg, Dec-200mg2022 - Jan-180mg, Feb-162mg, Mar-146mg, Apr-132mg, May-120mg, Jun-110mg, Jul-100mg, Sep-90mg, Oct-82mg, Nov-74mg, Dec-68mg. 2023 - Jan-120mg(Pharmacy's updosed me by mistake), Mid Jan-68mg at mid Jan, MidFeb- 60mg., May-50mg, Jun-45mg, Aug-41mg, Sep-37mg

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I posted recently about my latest attempt to taper off of Effexor using the scale method, essentially opening up the Effexor capsules, weighing the contents and re-encapsulating reduced dose capsule to taper off with minimal withdrawal symptoms.

I was asked to create a post of how I did it. Here is a link to a video showing how I am using (reloading) scales, generic gelatin capsules and a pill stomper to repackage my descending doses.

Please know I am not a Doctor, by training I am an auto mechanic and a Linux geek, I currently work in industrial manufacturing; so this is not to be construed as medical advice. Consult your prescribing Doctor before beginning a tapering protocol.

https://vimeo.com/576308553

Spring of 2000 - Paxil 20mg

Spring 2000 - Wellbutrin 150mg.

Ativan 1 mg twice daily.

2001-2005- Wellbutrin 300mg

2005 - Transitioned from Wellbutrin to 150mg Effexor

Ativan 1 mg in AM, 1mg PM as needed.

2009 - Failed attempt to taper.

2012 - Failed attempt to taper.

May/June 2021 - Self tapering using scale method.

Late August 2021 had to stop taper due to job change and increased anxiety.

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Thankyou @NSXtech  I was able to link right to the video here.

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How I micro tapered Klonopin a benzodiazepine. Could be used for other psychotropic drugs.

 

 

 

Celexa 20mg after mental breakdown following a major trauma 1996. 5 year span of deep depression that switched into pacnic attacks. 

Celexa 40 mg from 1996 until 2010 and remained on 20mg where i was stable from 2001 til 2012.

Tramatic Brain injury 2012. Seizures began 5 months after injury and began Keppra then to Tegretol XR. Clonazepam to shut mind off to sleep at night.

Battling seizures and then another major trauma`s in the last 1.5 years. 

Physiciatrist upped my celexa to 60mg. Feeling of being numb and still Panic attack until currently Dec 2015.

New Phychiatrist going for a change from Celexa to Prozac.

Dropped 20 mg Celexa and added 20 Mg of Prozac.

Stuck with that for the holidays to be over.

Currently 10mg Celexa and 20mg prozac.Next week dropping the Celexa to 0.

Dr says up the prozac to 40mg. Im thinking I dont want to do this.. 

I have a fear of going on the Prozac 40 mg to not have to deal with WD later after going through what the Celexa has been.

 

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How I micro tapered Klonopin a benzodiazepine. Could be used for other psychotropic drugs.

 

 

 

Celexa 20mg after mental breakdown following a major trauma 1996. 5 year span of deep depression that switched into pacnic attacks. 

Celexa 40 mg from 1996 until 2010 and remained on 20mg where i was stable from 2001 til 2012.

Tramatic Brain injury 2012. Seizures began 5 months after injury and began Keppra then to Tegretol XR. Clonazepam to shut mind off to sleep at night.

Battling seizures and then another major trauma`s in the last 1.5 years. 

Physiciatrist upped my celexa to 60mg. Feeling of being numb and still Panic attack until currently Dec 2015.

New Phychiatrist going for a change from Celexa to Prozac.

Dropped 20 mg Celexa and added 20 Mg of Prozac.

Stuck with that for the holidays to be over.

Currently 10mg Celexa and 20mg prozac.Next week dropping the Celexa to 0.

Dr says up the prozac to 40mg. Im thinking I dont want to do this.. 

I have a fear of going on the Prozac 40 mg to not have to deal with WD later after going through what the Celexa has been.

 

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How I micro tapered a SSRI capsule. Fluoxetine/Prozac

 

 

Celexa 20mg after mental breakdown following a major trauma 1996. 5 year span of deep depression that switched into pacnic attacks. 

Celexa 40 mg from 1996 until 2010 and remained on 20mg where i was stable from 2001 til 2012.

Tramatic Brain injury 2012. Seizures began 5 months after injury and began Keppra then to Tegretol XR. Clonazepam to shut mind off to sleep at night.

Battling seizures and then another major trauma`s in the last 1.5 years. 

Physiciatrist upped my celexa to 60mg. Feeling of being numb and still Panic attack until currently Dec 2015.

New Phychiatrist going for a change from Celexa to Prozac.

Dropped 20 mg Celexa and added 20 Mg of Prozac.

Stuck with that for the holidays to be over.

Currently 10mg Celexa and 20mg prozac.Next week dropping the Celexa to 0.

Dr says up the prozac to 40mg. Im thinking I dont want to do this.. 

I have a fear of going on the Prozac 40 mg to not have to deal with WD later after going through what the Celexa has been.

 

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@brassmonkey

Or anyone else who would like to chime in. 🙂

 

I have a question about tapering by crushing pills into powder.  I just thought of it when weighing mine today, especially since I'm getting to lower amounts. 

 

How do you know that the active ingredient is evenly disbursed in the powder for each dose?  Especially when getting to lower amounts?  Couldn't you possibly have more active ingredient in one or more filler, potentially leading to uneven capsules? 

 

If so, is there less risk with just cutting a pill with a razor or is the active ingredient not necessarily even in the whole pill?  

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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That question comes up quite often, please read through this article:

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/22065-myths-about-your-drugs/

 

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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On 8/25/2021 at 3:07 PM, BfromNJ said:

@brassmonkey

Or anyone else who would like to chime in. 🙂

 

I have a question about tapering by crushing pills into powder.  I just thought of it when weighing mine today, especially since I'm getting to lower amounts. 

 

How do you know that the active ingredient is evenly disbursed in the powder for each dose?  Especially when getting to lower amounts?  Couldn't you possibly have more active ingredient in one or more filler, potentially leading to uneven capsules? 

 

If so, is there less risk with just cutting a pill with a razor or is the active ingredient not necessarily even in the whole pill?  

You have a point. I've talked to others about that. Problem is, what other choice do we have? 0. I've been tapering for 4 years. A Benzo also, completed 14 months ago.

For tablets, I have crushed to powder and used veggie capsules. 

 

 

Celexa 20mg after mental breakdown following a major trauma 1996. 5 year span of deep depression that switched into pacnic attacks. 

Celexa 40 mg from 1996 until 2010 and remained on 20mg where i was stable from 2001 til 2012.

Tramatic Brain injury 2012. Seizures began 5 months after injury and began Keppra then to Tegretol XR. Clonazepam to shut mind off to sleep at night.

Battling seizures and then another major trauma`s in the last 1.5 years. 

Physiciatrist upped my celexa to 60mg. Feeling of being numb and still Panic attack until currently Dec 2015.

New Phychiatrist going for a change from Celexa to Prozac.

Dropped 20 mg Celexa and added 20 Mg of Prozac.

Stuck with that for the holidays to be over.

Currently 10mg Celexa and 20mg prozac.Next week dropping the Celexa to 0.

Dr says up the prozac to 40mg. Im thinking I dont want to do this.. 

I have a fear of going on the Prozac 40 mg to not have to deal with WD later after going through what the Celexa has been.

 

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Hey Brass-

Hope you’re doing well, sir. Funky stuff going on with my scale and curious of your thoughts.


My pills weigh .024 and I use a Gemini-20 scale. As a test tonight, I calibrated the scale, tare’d the tray to 0.000 and then weighed a pill to .024. I then turned the scale off, removed the .024 worth of medication and tare’d the tray to 0.000. I reweighed the medication and it came out to .022. I tried this with multiple scales and the variance was sometimes nothing all the way to .004. 

 

Sometimes the tray weighs 2.589, sometimes it’s as low as 2.583. As long as I tare to 0.000 it doesn’t make a difference, correct?
 

Do I need to order a new scale? You may remember that I’ve been in a wave and I’m wondering if that’s contributing. 
 

Appreciate your wisdom as always!

 

-Ryan

2005- 2008: Lorazepam (max dose- 1 MG daily)

2008- 2016: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

January 2017- March 2017- Pristiq (max dose- 100 MG daily)

April 2017- June 2017: Trintellix (max dose- 10 MG)

July 2017- October 2017:  Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

November 2017- April 2018- Luvox (max dose- 100 MG)

May 2018- Zoloft (max dose- 18.75)

5/28/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/3/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/7/18- 3.5 MG Lexapro, 6/13/18- 4 MG Lexapro, 6/21/18- 4.5 MG Lexapro, 6/28/18- 3/29/21- 4 MG Lexapro, 3/30/21- Present- 3.8 MG Lexapro

**Bad Wave Caused by Trileptal 150 MG (one pill) in December '20 and Low Dose Naltrexone .12 MG (one pill) in April '21**

 

"The Journey is The Reward"

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That sounds like the normal accuracy range for the Gemini-20.

 

Yes, setting the TARE to 0.000 each time will help with the accuracy. Also putting the calibration weight on the scale, TARE it and leaving the weight on while you make your measurements will help.

 

The differences are so small that when you factor in the Active Ingredient Concentration the actual dose doesn't change all that much.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Thanks, @brassmonkey

10 hours ago, brassmonkey said:

Also putting the calibration weight on the scale, TARE it and leaving the weight on while you make your measurements will help.

 

For the above, would that mean putting the calibration weight in the tray or just weigh it with the calibration weight directly on the scale with no tray?

2005- 2008: Lorazepam (max dose- 1 MG daily)

2008- 2016: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

January 2017- March 2017- Pristiq (max dose- 100 MG daily)

April 2017- June 2017: Trintellix (max dose- 10 MG)

July 2017- October 2017:  Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

November 2017- April 2018- Luvox (max dose- 100 MG)

May 2018- Zoloft (max dose- 18.75)

5/28/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/3/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/7/18- 3.5 MG Lexapro, 6/13/18- 4 MG Lexapro, 6/21/18- 4.5 MG Lexapro, 6/28/18- 3/29/21- 4 MG Lexapro, 3/30/21- Present- 3.8 MG Lexapro

**Bad Wave Caused by Trileptal 150 MG (one pill) in December '20 and Low Dose Naltrexone .12 MG (one pill) in April '21**

 

"The Journey is The Reward"

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In the tray or between the scale and the tray. Which ever is easier for you to work with. The object is to force the scales into their midrange which is more accurate.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Love this, @brassmonkey! Thank you, as always!

2005- 2008: Lorazepam (max dose- 1 MG daily)

2008- 2016: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

January 2017- March 2017- Pristiq (max dose- 100 MG daily)

April 2017- June 2017: Trintellix (max dose- 10 MG)

July 2017- October 2017:  Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

November 2017- April 2018- Luvox (max dose- 100 MG)

May 2018- Zoloft (max dose- 18.75)

5/28/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/3/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/7/18- 3.5 MG Lexapro, 6/13/18- 4 MG Lexapro, 6/21/18- 4.5 MG Lexapro, 6/28/18- 3/29/21- 4 MG Lexapro, 3/30/21- Present- 3.8 MG Lexapro

**Bad Wave Caused by Trileptal 150 MG (one pill) in December '20 and Low Dose Naltrexone .12 MG (one pill) in April '21**

 

"The Journey is The Reward"

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Can I ask what is meant by " tare" the scale?   I was just curious on the above post.   I put the tray on when the scale is off, then turn it on and its 0.   Its 0 each time I remove the med and put the tray back.   Then i measure another one.  Do I need to be doing something else in between each measurement?  Hitting a button?   Or am I ok how im doing it? 

 

I'm getting low in dose (.026) so just making sure.  I use another scale not the Gemini.   

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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Here is the link to all of Brassmonkey's posts with the word tare in them from this topic:

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/search/?&q=tare&type=forums_topic&author=brassmonkey&nodes=14&search_and_or=and

 

 

 

 

 

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Hey @brassmonkey-

I tried the method last night of putting the weight in the scale. What I’m finding is that it gives the medication something to stick on. Would putting a nickel on the scale and the tray on top get the scale to midrange?

 

Is it worth buying a $1000+ scale? I don’t really want to, haha, but I’ll do it if it makes my taper easier. I’m just struggling getting the same measurement each time. I’ll weigh something, turn it off and weigh it again and get very different results. I’ll be happy to invest if need be. 
 

 

2005- 2008: Lorazepam (max dose- 1 MG daily)

2008- 2016: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

January 2017- March 2017- Pristiq (max dose- 100 MG daily)

April 2017- June 2017: Trintellix (max dose- 10 MG)

July 2017- October 2017:  Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

November 2017- April 2018- Luvox (max dose- 100 MG)

May 2018- Zoloft (max dose- 18.75)

5/28/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/3/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/7/18- 3.5 MG Lexapro, 6/13/18- 4 MG Lexapro, 6/21/18- 4.5 MG Lexapro, 6/28/18- 3/29/21- 4 MG Lexapro, 3/30/21- Present- 3.8 MG Lexapro

**Bad Wave Caused by Trileptal 150 MG (one pill) in December '20 and Low Dose Naltrexone .12 MG (one pill) in April '21**

 

"The Journey is The Reward"

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13 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

Here is the link to all of Brassmonkey's posts with the word tare in them from this topic:

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/search/?&q=tare&type=forums_topic&author=brassmonkey&nodes=14&search_and_or=and

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.  I was just concerned I wasn't being accurate since I dont hit tare after each dose weigh.   I see where he said it "helps" ,  but is it a necessary step? Am I still getting an accurate weight?   I didnt see it in my scale instructions.  Hoping I wasn't missing something all this time.  

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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On 9/1/2021 at 1:17 AM, OreElect said:

You have a point. I've talked to others about that. Problem is, what other choice do we have? 0. I've been tapering for 4 years. A Benzo also, completed 14 months ago.

For tablets, I have crushed to powder and used veggie capsules. 

 

 

You are right not much choice.  

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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Using anything to help bring the scales into their midrange will work. To help with the sticking I always used a small square of paper, folded in half and then opened, to actually hold the powder on the scale. There will be a little powder stick to it with the first use, but reuse the paper and that will not be a problem.

 

My "stack up" was, scale, weight, tray, paper, powder.

 

There really is no need to buy a more expensive scale. They will be much more difficult to use and the accuracy won't be much better.

 

When you determine the AIC (Active Ingredient Concentration: average pill weight divided by stated strength) you will see that a 1 or 2mg difference in pill weight for your dose doesn't make a whole lot of difference in your dose strength. Unless you are extremely sensitive to changes in the dose this difference won't change things. The mere act of rounding the dose weight up to a measurable number can also cause this difference. Meaning that there are going to be slight differences that are beyond our control.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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@BfromNJ-- the scales do it automatically when ever you turn them on. Try putting a penny on the tray before turning them on. When you turn them on they will still read 0.000.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Hey! I got a question too..

The 'factory reset' to the scale with the two 10g metal weights doesn't make the scale flat as it should.

 

After factory reset I'm putting the 10g weight and it reads "10.001g", Is this common?

Tapering:

Pride100 - Generic Amisulpride / Solian

2016 - 02-Oct -Started CItalopram 10mg+ Alpralid 0.25mg

25-Oct - Hospitalized, Started taking Amisulpride. Dec- Ami 800mg, Biperiden 2mg, Clonazepam 1.5mg. 2017 - Jan-1000mg, Feb-800mg, Apr-600mg. 14May-(Got out of the hospital) Ami 400, Propranolol 30mg, Biperiden 8mg, Dec - Ami 400, Biperiden 8mg  2018Apr - Ami 400, Stopped Biperiden at 2mg.

2018Jul - CT'ed, 2019Jan - Alprazolam 0.25mg, 2019Feb - Hospitalized and Reinstated 

2019 - Feb-800mg, Mar-1200mg, Apr-1000mg, May-800mg, Jun-600mg, Dec-400mg 2021 - Apr-350mg, May-300mg, Jun-250mg, Nov-225mg, Dec-200mg2022 - Jan-180mg, Feb-162mg, Mar-146mg, Apr-132mg, May-120mg, Jun-110mg, Jul-100mg, Sep-90mg, Oct-82mg, Nov-74mg, Dec-68mg. 2023 - Jan-120mg(Pharmacy's updosed me by mistake), Mid Jan-68mg at mid Jan, MidFeb- 60mg., May-50mg, Jun-45mg, Aug-41mg, Sep-37mg

Daily Supplements:  Omega3 Fish Oil (600mg active ingredient) x3 per day

[D3 (1000 UI)x1 per day]- I stopped taking in summer 2022

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14 hours ago, ryan1982 said:

Is it worth buying a $1000+ scale?

 

If you have a spare $1000 sitting around doing nothing then you could buy one costing that much 😉

 

However it is definitely not necessary to spend that sort of money.

 

Brassmonkey did his whole taper using the Gemini 20 scale.

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17 hours ago, ryan1982 said:

Hey @brassmonkey-

I tried the method last night of putting the weight in the scale. What I’m finding is that it gives the medication something to stick on. Would putting a nickel on the scale and the tray on top get the scale to midrange?

 

Is it worth buying a $1000+ scale? I don’t really want to, haha, but I’ll do it if it makes my taper easier. I’m just struggling getting the same measurement each time. I’ll weigh something, turn it off and weigh it again and get very different results. I’ll be happy to invest if need be. 
 

 

As others said, likely you wont see any benefit for the added cost.

I had the same issue you did. 

Are you noticing the small differences in doses?

I would measure and calibrate each time I cut a pill a couple times to make sure it was accurate as I was sensitive to the small difference. 

Maybe knowing it was "more" accurate was more of a mental thing.

 

If you are having sensitivity you could try a liquid. I found that to be more accurate for me, but weighing pills is often accurate enough for most.

40 yo Male. Started Paxil about 15 years ago. 10 mg (pill weight .125 - .129 g). 5 yrs wanted less side effects, doctor took me off Paxil over couple week period and put me on Wellbutrin. Not good. Went back on Paxil. Relieved my symptoms, but didn't work as well and more side effects. Severe reaction between Paxil and Zomig Summer of 2012. Head was affected during warmer days (cloudiness, confusion, pressure). Began 10% withdrawal 10/24/12.

Withdrawel helped many symptoms, but also added side effects: nausea, dizziness, tiredness. Hyper-anxiety started January 2014.

Went through a 2 year period of de-realization (2016-2018).  Rarely any windows.  
Current dose: 0.00 as of 4/10/21.  Made a lot of progress in my withdrawal symptoms the last 2 years of my taper.  I think doing a liquid taper helped stabilize things on the lower doses.  A lot of my symptoms have reduced significantly.  Hoping for even more improvement now that I am off.
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On 9/9/2021 at 3:26 PM, brassmonkey said:

Using anything to help bring the scales into their midrange will work. To help with the sticking I always used a small square of paper, folded in half and then opened, to actually hold the powder on the scale. There will be a little powder stick to it with the first use, but reuse the paper and that will not be a pr

 

My "stack up" was, scale, weight, tray, paper, powder.

 

There really is no need to buy a more expensive scale. They will be much more difficult to use and the accuracy won't be much better.

 

When you determine the AIC (Active Ingredient Concentration: average pill weight divided by stated strength) you will see that a 1 or 2mg difference in pill weight for your dose doesn't make a whole lot of difference in your dose strength. Unless you are extremely sensitive to changes in the dose this difference won't change things. The mere act of rounding the dose weight up to a measurable number can also cause this difference. Meaning that there are going to be slight differences that are beyond our control.

Thanks much, @brassmonkey. Did you balance the tray on top of the weight? There’s not a whole bunch of real estate on the scale, ha, and if you can balance and weigh you’re a better man than I!

2005- 2008: Lorazepam (max dose- 1 MG daily)

2008- 2016: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

January 2017- March 2017- Pristiq (max dose- 100 MG daily)

April 2017- June 2017: Trintellix (max dose- 10 MG)

July 2017- October 2017:  Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

November 2017- April 2018- Luvox (max dose- 100 MG)

May 2018- Zoloft (max dose- 18.75)

5/28/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/3/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/7/18- 3.5 MG Lexapro, 6/13/18- 4 MG Lexapro, 6/21/18- 4.5 MG Lexapro, 6/28/18- 3/29/21- 4 MG Lexapro, 3/30/21- Present- 3.8 MG Lexapro

**Bad Wave Caused by Trileptal 150 MG (one pill) in December '20 and Low Dose Naltrexone .12 MG (one pill) in April '21**

 

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Just takes a little practice and you'll be an ace.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Hello everyone,

 

i want to make a post about even distribution in powder/crushed tablets.

 

So, a lot of people asking if mixing powdered tablets will create an uniform distributed powder (active ingredient + fillers).

When we think about about how actual pharmacies compound medications or capsules, it is clear that good mixing creates a evenly distributed powder.

 

Please see these videos from pharmacies, which explain how they compound capsules. They dont use special equipment or expensive machines.

All of them just mix and mix active ingredients and filler until an even, fine powder is formed and fill them in capsules using a target weight (as long as you know you get your specific weight of powder in your capsule, it doesnt matter how to fill them). Thats how every pharmacy will compound capsules in any country.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ1zEWnyYcw

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqwMv0Ly_1c

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8JLKzzRjHs

 

In addition, our previously intact tablets were already very fine and even mixed (bulk) powder of active ingredients + fillers before they were pressed in the machine (thats how normal immediat release tablets are made, see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofUIvL397FI). Once powder is mixed together, it will not "spontaneously" unmix by even more gently swirling/mixing.

 

So in my opinion, if you are unsure about distribution using this method, just grind them fine and mix the powder for some time, because thats what pharmacies do

around the world and there should be no problem.

 

Greetings

 

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2020: 3-March -> started Mirtazapine 15mg;

3-March to 6-April -> approx. cutting to 0 mg; 6-April to 20-April -> ~ 7,5 mg; 21-April to 31-April -> 15 mg; 1-May to 13-May -> ~ 10 mg (approx.); 15-May to 19-July -> 15 mg (psychosomatic clinic) 19-July -> started taper (scale and file) 14 mg (-6,6%); 08-August -> 12 mg (-14,3 %); 27-August -> 10 mg (-16,6 %); 15-September -> 8 mg (-20 %, bad idea, heavy WD); 23-September -> 10.2 mg (+20 %, 102 mgpw)

2021: 12-April to 12-May -> crossover from solid pill to DIY liquid (water only), 10.2 mg, not stable; 10-September -> back to crushing and weighing, still 10.2 mg (102 mgpw)

2022: 13-March -> changed to DIY liquid with suspension vehicle, 10.2 mg

 

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Hello.  Can someone please help.  I am having trouble with weighing.   When I have the powder on the scale, the weight sometimes jumps around.   I recently split my dose in two so I am down to .021 am and .026 pm.   It doesn't always do this but quite often now.  Is it just because I am leaving it on the scale a bit longer?   Or is it too low of a dose now?  Even if I use the calubration weight with it still does it ( as i have seen suggested by brassmonkey). I also even bought a new scale (previously not using the Gemini, but just tried it) and same thing is happening.   I'm concerned im not getting accurate measurements.  This could really upset things with trying to stabilize .    thinking I have to go back to one daily dose for now so its not so small?   

 

@brassmonkey any advice would be great. 

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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Wat is the actual dose weight you are trying to get?

 

These scales are very sensitive, especially to air currents in the room. If there is any air movement it can make the readout jump around. A heater or fan in another part of the room can cause a lot of variation.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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On 9/10/2021 at 12:56 AM, Josef said:

I made The 'factory reset' to the scale with the two 10g metal weights it doesn't make the scale flat (it reads 20.001) as it should.

 

After factory reset I'm putting the 10g weight and it reads "10.001g", Is this common?

Could someone answer me please?

 

And another question please-

Should I put one metal weight (10g) with my daily powder? Will it make the rate more accurate? :// Is this recommended?

 

 

Tapering:

Pride100 - Generic Amisulpride / Solian

2016 - 02-Oct -Started CItalopram 10mg+ Alpralid 0.25mg

25-Oct - Hospitalized, Started taking Amisulpride. Dec- Ami 800mg, Biperiden 2mg, Clonazepam 1.5mg. 2017 - Jan-1000mg, Feb-800mg, Apr-600mg. 14May-(Got out of the hospital) Ami 400, Propranolol 30mg, Biperiden 8mg, Dec - Ami 400, Biperiden 8mg  2018Apr - Ami 400, Stopped Biperiden at 2mg.

2018Jul - CT'ed, 2019Jan - Alprazolam 0.25mg, 2019Feb - Hospitalized and Reinstated 

2019 - Feb-800mg, Mar-1200mg, Apr-1000mg, May-800mg, Jun-600mg, Dec-400mg 2021 - Apr-350mg, May-300mg, Jun-250mg, Nov-225mg, Dec-200mg2022 - Jan-180mg, Feb-162mg, Mar-146mg, Apr-132mg, May-120mg, Jun-110mg, Jul-100mg, Sep-90mg, Oct-82mg, Nov-74mg, Dec-68mg. 2023 - Jan-120mg(Pharmacy's updosed me by mistake), Mid Jan-68mg at mid Jan, MidFeb- 60mg., May-50mg, Jun-45mg, Aug-41mg, Sep-37mg

Daily Supplements:  Omega3 Fish Oil (600mg active ingredient) x3 per day

[D3 (1000 UI)x1 per day]- I stopped taking in summer 2022

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Don't know about your first question. The weight fluctuates on my scale however, seems to be no way around it.

 

As for myself: I always put the 10g weight on the scale since I've heard it's more accurate in that range.

Antidepressant history

2001 - 2018: Paxil / seroxat (20 mgs), several failed c/t and taper attempts.

2018-September: last failed c/t attempt.

2018-October: reinstated Paxil (30 mgs)

2018-October thru 2019-January: Short-term Oxazepam & Diazepam use. Tapered off very slowly. Jumped 10Jan2019.

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Currently on hold on 0,1 mgpw after an updose due to becoming increasingly unstable.

Supplements: C, D, Magnesium

Miscellaneous: low on alcohol (1/2 times/year). No substance abuse. Lower carb diet with cheat days. Wim Hof Method. Buteyko. Calisthenics. Hiking.

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Hey all,

I'm weighing my pills on a Genesis 20 scale and it seems like every single time I weigh them, I need to calibrate after testing the 10 mg weight. Is that normal or is that a sign I need a new scale? I've been using the same scale for 5 years, fyi.

 

Appreciate y'all!

2005- 2008: Lorazepam (max dose- 1 MG daily)

2008- 2016: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

January 2017- March 2017- Pristiq (max dose- 100 MG daily)

April 2017- June 2017: Trintellix (max dose- 10 MG)

July 2017- October 2017:  Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

November 2017- April 2018- Luvox (max dose- 100 MG)

May 2018- Zoloft (max dose- 18.75)

5/28/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/3/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/7/18- 3.5 MG Lexapro, 6/13/18- 4 MG Lexapro, 6/21/18- 4.5 MG Lexapro, 6/28/18- 3/29/21- 4 MG Lexapro, 3/30/21- Present- 3.8 MG Lexapro

**Bad Wave Caused by Trileptal 150 MG (one pill) in December '20 and Low Dose Naltrexone .12 MG (one pill) in April '21**

 

"The Journey is The Reward"

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@ryan1982 have you tried changing the batteries?

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Yessir, I have, @brassmonkey. Have a set in there that's about 2 weeks old now. Think maybe a new Genesis is in order?

 

Thanks as always for taking the time.

2005- 2008: Lorazepam (max dose- 1 MG daily)

2008- 2016: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

January 2017- March 2017- Pristiq (max dose- 100 MG daily)

April 2017- June 2017: Trintellix (max dose- 10 MG)

July 2017- October 2017:  Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily)

November 2017- April 2018- Luvox (max dose- 100 MG)

May 2018- Zoloft (max dose- 18.75)

5/28/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/3/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/7/18- 3.5 MG Lexapro, 6/13/18- 4 MG Lexapro, 6/21/18- 4.5 MG Lexapro, 6/28/18- 3/29/21- 4 MG Lexapro, 3/30/21- Present- 3.8 MG Lexapro

**Bad Wave Caused by Trileptal 150 MG (one pill) in December '20 and Low Dose Naltrexone .12 MG (one pill) in April '21**

 

"The Journey is The Reward"

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@ryan1982

yes it sounds like a new one is needed. They have gotten so expensive.

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200mg -  Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA

225mg -  Aug 26, 2017  updose holding

November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg  trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal

June 14, 2020  at 10% 507  My first start of my trazodone 250mg  taper

6/16/20  90 mgai    7/26/20   81 mgai    9/6/20  72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai  11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai  

 

 

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