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what I've learned this week is that the weight of the gelatin capsules may vary.

So, first I put the 10g weight on the tray and I press "On", then I measure half of the capsule (I write down how much mg it weights)

then I'm filling the capsule and measure my daily mgpw dose+ the weight of the gelatin, I could just press tare but it seems more precise after couple of tries of weighting capsules I finished measuring.

 

@brassmonkey, how are you?

Is there a way to put the paper and the 10g weight altogether on the tray?

Right now I'm putting on the tray the weight and half a capsule, is that the 'easy way'?

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19 minutes ago, Josef said:

So, first I put the 10g weight on the tray and I press "On", then I measure half of the capsule (I write down how much mg it weights)

then I'm filling the capsule and measure my daily mgpw dose+ the weight of the gelatin

 

It is easier to weigh the powder and then put that powder into a capsule.

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The weigh of the empty capsule and the finished capsule are immaterial. It is the weight of the contents that is important. Make sure that it is as close as possible, fill your capsule and then don't worry about it.

 

It's a bit of a balancing act but I used "pan, weight, paper".

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Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

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Is there a current rec for a digital scale for weighing doses? 

Past meds: 2001-2010 - lithium and/or other mood stabilizers, ssris and benzos; 2011 - 2018 - lithium and adderall; 2018 - tapered lithium 900 mg to 0 mg in about 6 months, stopped Nov 2018, started fluoxetine @ 20 mg spring 2018 through May 2019,  then tapered in two steps: May - 10 mg, Nov - 0 mg; Dec 2019 - ssri withdrawal started

 

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Most will use the Gemini20, but I have also seen some using other brands too.

As long as it measures 3 points beyond the decimal point in grams or g, that is sufficient.

You may find prices vary now, on Amazon, which is where most will go to purchase a digital scale.

It's always worth taking the time to get through the whole topic, as I think most of your questions may be answered here already.  This IS a long topic thread.  Good tapering planning does pay off though, so kudos to you.

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Tapering dry getting low need help

 

Hello!  My remeron pill weighs 0.011g and I want to taper only 6 percent from now till i'm off, but my gemini scale doesn't seem to go between the numbers,  The math is 0.011 - 6% for a reduction of 0.01034 - I can't figure out a way to even get to that on this scale or if its even possible,  It seems I can only get to 0.010 which is more around 10% and thats getting to rough for me.    Please help

 

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2017 Cold turkey from xanax - 0.2 - only on xanax for 3 months - Protracted withdrawal still to this day.

2017 Remeron instated 7.5 for sleep.

2018 January- started tapering remeron - used scale and tapered 7.5 to 7.4,to 7.3 and so on..... every 2 weeks to a month  - continues taper this way for a few years.

2019 - december. 26 - tapered remeron to 0.8

2021 - February 18 - tapered remeron to 0.6
2021 February 25 - Hydroxazine 50 for inomnia

2021 Mach 1st updosed to 1.0

2021  March 3rd - updosed to 1.2

occasional 100 mg of gabapentin)  usually once a week when things get excruciating

I was told by my psyc doc to updose to the last most stable dose and that was 1.2

 

 

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Hello everyone and Happy 2022! I believe that @brassmonkey answered this question quite some time ago in this post, but I am about to make my second "crush" of reinstatement powder and had two questions/thoughts:

  • I wondered the same thing as @phillyfan24 about Trintellix coating (which is not white, so easier to remove from the stockpile). My pill grinder seems incapable of grinding the coating completely, and I ran it through twice. So I did my best to try and distribute the coating fragments evenly across the 20 or so capsules I made (from crushing 3 pills). But by the end I noticed I was filling mostly white powder. So I my have inadvertently updosed a teensy amount. Both @getofflex and I double checked the math when I started but now that I see those numbers, it seems like I should have yielded more doses, closer to 30. ANYWAY, my thought was to crush 3 more pills, remove the coating fragments with tweezers, then WEIGH the powder pile and redo the math from there. The powder would contain 15mgai and I would apply the same math, yielding slightly smaller final weights I assume. Does that seem like an OK approach or should I just do the exact same thing I did the first round and not worry about it? Maybe the coating fragments still contain the drug?
  • And my second question is related to the first. I have been storing the stockpile in an empty pill container and making pills every 5 or 6 days. I assume it is safe to keep it in these containers as they should be airtight? The powder was in there a little over two weeks total.

PS- attached is a photo of how I am weighing and filling all at once. I place the empty capsule half inside this part from a soda keg (ball lock gas post). It sits snug, I TARE the scale then fill carefully with a "Capsule Filling Micro Spoon". I know a little doesn't make it into the capsule, but this makes it easier than weighting then transferring into the capsule. Of course I haven't used the folded paper approach yet either.

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2021 Multivitamin, Turmeric, Mulberry Leaf Extract, Vitamin D, Super Omega 3
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WD symptoms began 6 weeks after last dose, increased severely at the 4 month mark

Started a 0.5mg Trintellix reinstatement on 12/17/21 with mixed results so far (3pm daily)

Tried to drop Caffeine 1/1/2022 but added headaches to bad waves, back to tapering...

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On 12/12/2021 at 10:08 AM, Helloimhere said:

Hello!  My remeron pill weighs 0.011g and I want to taper only 6 percent from now till i'm off, but my gemini scale doesn't seem to go between the numbers,  The math is 0.011 - 6% for a reduction of 0.01034 - I can't figure out a way to even get to that on this scale or if its even possible,  It seems I can only get to 0.010 which is more around 10% and thats getting to rough for me.    Please help

 

@Helloimhere did you ever get an answer to this? I can tell you that my Gemini scale will in fact read single mg digits (0.004). Have you done the full calibration step with weights? Also putting one of the 10mg calibration weights on the tray before you TARE to 0.000 might improve the measurement by getting the scale close to the mid-range rather than the bottom of the range. There is a similar question and answer here you can read earlier this thread.

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2021 Oct 9th Propranolol 10mg 2/day (10am and 7pm)
2021 Multivitamin, Turmeric, Mulberry Leaf Extract, Vitamin D, Super Omega 3
Lorazepam (Ativan) 0.5-1mg as needed, increased frequency during recovery

WD symptoms began 6 weeks after last dose, increased severely at the 4 month mark

Started a 0.5mg Trintellix reinstatement on 12/17/21 with mixed results so far (3pm daily)

Tried to drop Caffeine 1/1/2022 but added headaches to bad waves, back to tapering...

Nicotine/Vape daily, less than two pods (~30mg) and trying to taper. No alcohol or other drugs.

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Micro tapering from capsules.

 

 

Celexa 20mg after mental breakdown following a major trauma 1996. 5 year span of deep depression that switched into pacnic attacks. 

Celexa 40 mg from 1996 until 2010 and remained on 20mg where i was stable from 2001 til 2012.

Tramatic Brain injury 2012. Seizures began 5 months after injury and began Keppra then to Tegretol XR. Clonazepam to shut mind off to sleep at night.

Battling seizures and then another major trauma`s in the last 1.5 years. 

Physiciatrist upped my celexa to 60mg. Feeling of being numb and still Panic attack until currently Dec 2015.

New Phychiatrist going for a change from Celexa to Prozac.

Dropped 20 mg Celexa and added 20 Mg of Prozac.

Stuck with that for the holidays to be over.

Currently 10mg Celexa and 20mg prozac.Next week dropping the Celexa to 0.

Dr says up the prozac to 40mg. Im thinking I dont want to do this.. 

I have a fear of going on the Prozac 40 mg to not have to deal with WD later after going through what the Celexa has been.

 

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Benzodiazepine micro tapering

 

YouTube Video title:  Micro tapering Benzodiazapine, SSRI, Tablets

 

 

 

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Celexa 20mg after mental breakdown following a major trauma 1996. 5 year span of deep depression that switched into pacnic attacks. 

Celexa 40 mg from 1996 until 2010 and remained on 20mg where i was stable from 2001 til 2012.

Tramatic Brain injury 2012. Seizures began 5 months after injury and began Keppra then to Tegretol XR. Clonazepam to shut mind off to sleep at night.

Battling seizures and then another major trauma`s in the last 1.5 years. 

Physiciatrist upped my celexa to 60mg. Feeling of being numb and still Panic attack until currently Dec 2015.

New Phychiatrist going for a change from Celexa to Prozac.

Dropped 20 mg Celexa and added 20 Mg of Prozac.

Stuck with that for the holidays to be over.

Currently 10mg Celexa and 20mg prozac.Next week dropping the Celexa to 0.

Dr says up the prozac to 40mg. Im thinking I dont want to do this.. 

I have a fear of going on the Prozac 40 mg to not have to deal with WD later after going through what the Celexa has been.

 

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