Digestive problems: nausea, diarrhoea, bloating, GERD

[peaceandlove]

On 10/15/2017 at 11:30 AM, Frogie said:

I take Schiff Digestive Enzyme for Irritable Bowel Support and Metamucil. It helps me. I take the digestive enzyme morning and night and Metamucil in the afternoon.

 

Good luck on your quest.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

Has your ibs issues stopped ? @Frogie

[peaceandlove]

On 4/5/2016 at 9:28 PM, Toulouse said:

My latest on the symptom merry-go-round is heartburn and bloating. Feeling intestinal spasms too, oddly enough. Reading this thread and may try reducing carbs for the time being. I used to have lots of digestive issues like this prior to getting on ADs. Maybe now that I'm off I'm more susceptible to having flare ups?

how long did the heartburn, bloating, & all your digestive problems take to go away ? I’m going through the same @Toulouse

[Estman]

On 8/10/2014 at 1:46 AM, Karma said:

Hi ndmaar

 

You need a full spectrum enzyme.  I use Solaray brand Super Digestaway in combination with HCL betaine.  I actually take 4 capsules of enzymes with breakfast and dinner and 3 enzymes with lunch.  I take one HCL with breakfast and another with dinner.  You may find that you need to take more if what you can get doesn't have quite the strength you are looking for.

 

Note that I have taken this much enzyme and HCL for several years.  It was originally recommended by a nutritionist and I check back with my nutritionist on a regular basis to see if this combination is still supporting my gut health.

 

I also take 50+ billion CFU's of probiotics daily to keep yeast population in check.

 

I've also had very good success taking silymarin to help my liver detox and reduce elevated liver enzymes.  You can also use milk thistle.  I have a severe rag weed allergy and so I find I have better success with the silymarin extract from milk thistle.

 

My understanding is that it is difficult to get powerful supplements in the EU due to codex.  You may find you have better success with something out of the US if you can legally order it.

 

Karma

Hello
I have had severe indigestion for the past year
Last summer was the first long bad period.
I am tapering off the tritsyclic antidepressant clomipramine
In December before Christmas, the digestion became very bad again.
My symptoms were: A strong feeling of heaviness in the stomach after a meal
As if he had eaten too much, but he hadn't.
It was more or less tolerable for an hour after the meal, but later there was something like fermentation in the intestines
As if food had stopped and there was severe nausea.
In addition, there was dizziness and a feeling of weakness
The mood became very depressed and the fatigue was great.
I went to the doctor and he put me on Nexium, a proton pump inhibitor, for 7 days
In addition to Metronidazole
the doctor also took blood samples and suspected Helicobacter
I took these medicines for 7 days, but it got even worse
Like I want to pass out
The stool became yellowish brown and like parts of undigested food inside
Finally the results came in and there was no Helicobacter.
I stopped all these medications and the situation improved.
I discovered that I have had low stomach acid for a long time and the Nexium made it worse.
I have now been taking this stomach acid supplement with betaine for 4 weeks
Better to some extent but not enough.
The feeling of heaviness immediately after a meal is less, but 3-4 hours after a meal there is still a bad feeling in the intestines.
Blood tests do not show inflammation or gastritis.
I suspect that I have low stomach acid and that's why small intestinal bacterial overgrowth or SIBO occurred
Unfortunately, the doctors here don't know much about it
I also have low B12 and high cholesterol
It seems as if bile acids are low
If I eat something fattier, later the stool is yellowish brown, etc
For some reason, this discomfort remains in the gut
Should I start taking ox bile supplements in addition to stomach acid?
I read that a lack of bile causes an overgrowth of bacteria, especially in the small intestine
Currently, I have been taking 2 capsules of this stomach acid-betaine supplement with each meal, maybe not enough?
I have changed my diet a lot, I regret every day that I started taking antidepressants, it has ruined my lifeI don't eat sweet and gluten-containing foods.

i also eat dairy products
However, I do not have lutein and lactose intolerance
At least the tests don't show it
I don't know if the antidepressant itself or the detoxification process has changed my stomach acids?
Can't do endoscopy either because I get anxious about it.
It seems that because of this SIBO, I also have a general stronger depression than I didn't have before.
I don't know how to proceed...
 

[Estman]

On 1/23/2019 at 5:46 AM, Frogie said:

Thank you manny03:

 

 I had a lot of problems and ended up having a colonoscopy. The dr advised to take Metamucil and I haven’t had that problem since.

 

 I hope you doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

Hi,

Helicobacter was not found in me either, and the blood and urine samples were fine
But the Calpotectin reading in the stool sample was 110 (over 100 is elevated)
The doctor thought that he should also do a fecal occult blood test
Is this colonoscopy a very scary procedure?
What is Metamucil?
What symptoms did it manage to treat?

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, Estman said:

Hi,

Helicobacter was not found in me either, and the blood and urine samples were fine
But the Calpotectin reading in the stool sample was 110 (over 100 is elevated)
The doctor thought that he should also do a fecal occult blood test
Is this colonoscopy a very scary procedure?
What is Metamucil?
What symptoms did it manage to treat?

I don't know any medical things i.e Calpotectin, I'm sorry.

My colonoscopy was a little nervous for me because I chose not to be put to sleep. But I lived through it. It was uncomfortable and some pressure, but nothing bad.

Metamucil is psyllium husk that dissolves in water. I take it for constipation. 

Please check with your dr before doing any of this as I can't recommend medical issues.

[Estman]

On 2/3/2023 at 4:14 PM, Frogie said:

I don't know any medical things i.e Calpotectin, I'm sorry.

My colonoscopy was a little nervous for me because I chose not to be put to sleep. But I lived through it. It was uncomfortable and some pressure, but nothing bad.

Metamucil is psyllium husk that dissolves in water. I take it for constipation. 

Please check with your dr before doing any of this as I can't recommend medical issues.

My symptoms feel like food is moving too slowly through the stomach and intestines and is getting wasted
There is such nausea and dizziness and gas in the intestines.
It is strange that the symptoms are severe when the air pressure drops or rises quickly.
I don't know why this is so, maybe some kind of nervous system dysfunction
Have you also experienced an association with changes in barometric pressure?
The situation is also very bad in wet weather, especially in winter.

[peaceandlove]

On 2/4/2023 at 9:42 AM, Estman said:

My symptoms feel like food is moving too slowly through the stomach and intestines and is getting wasted
There is such nausea and dizziness and gas in the intestines.
It is strange that the symptoms are severe when the air pressure drops or rises quickly.
I don't know why this is so, maybe some kind of nervous system dysfunction
Have you also experienced an association with changes in barometric pressure?
The situation is also very bad in wet weather, especially in winter.

hey I have the same exact symptoms as you. Acid reflex it seems like I have very low stomach acid. I am not able to digest big meals or any type of fatty beef. Only lean chicken. I have no clue if I did this to myself with all the stress from withdrawal symptoms or it’s nerve related. I take “Lilly of the desert formula” which safely puts acid back into your stomach similar to apple cider vinegar. I’ve only been doing it for 2 weeks now. So I can’t speak much if the results. I would love to add HCL but am scared because not sure if I have gastritis or an ulcer which would make things worse. I want an endoscopy to see if I do, but means I would have to be put to sleep & I’m scared of the reaction to anaesthesia ugh. I’ve lost so much weight. i already tested negative for hyporil so it’s not that. I’m going to ask for a gastric study next to see if my stomach is deylayed in emptying. @Estman

[Karma]

To test for low stomach acid try this:

 

First thing in the morning, before eating or drinking anything:

Mix ¼ tsp baking soda in 4 to 6 ounces of cold water.

Drink the baking soda solution.

Time how long it takes for a burp to occur. Time it for up to 5 minutes:

If you have not burped within five minutes, it may be a sign of insufficient stomach acid. Early and repeated burping may be due to too much stomach acid (do not to confuse this with small burps from swallowing air when drinking the solution). Any burping after 3 minutes is an indication of low stomach acid levels

 

This is not an infallible test, but it is a good indicator. More people have too little stomach acid than too much.

 

If can find a nutritionist or naturopathic to work with, that is a good idea. One size doesn’t fit all and a more tailored approach is best.

 

I worked with a nutritionist and was put on a probiotic, HCL with pepsin with each meal, a significant amount of digestive enzymes with each meal and magnesium to bowel tolerance (as well as a gluten-free, dairy-free, low sugar diet). Over time I was able to reduce the amount of each of these supplements. 

 

Gut dysfunction has been proven to be associated with depression and immune system dysregulation. I implore you to find someone knowledgeable to work with for your specific situation. Sometimes these things can be corrected with diet and supplements, but sometimes there is something else going on that may require a more significant intervention (and I don’t mean antidepressants).

 

Karma 

[peaceandlove]

On 7/9/2013 at 8:14 PM, Rhiannon said:

I can cook, haven't tried ginger. Do you think if I just boil some in water, like making ginger tea, that would work?

 

Thanks for the reassurance about the nausea. There's just not a ton of information about Lamictal withdrawal out there and every time it happens I think the tiny cut I made surely couldn't be causing it.  (Actually I always think that about withdrawal symptoms...)

 

I'm only cutting about 0.5 mg to 1 mg at a time, but I'm probably not holding long enough. I get the feeling Lamictal withdrawal unfolds over a long period of time. Seems like it takes 4-5 days before I even feel a cut, then gets worse for a few days, then as it starts to get better I cut again even though I should probably hold a little longer. It's just so derned frustrating, this is the drug I'm on the highest dose of and it's the hardest to reduce! Plus frustrating because supposedly Lamictal's not hard to get off of for a lot of people. 

 

I also get intense reflux that sometimes leads to vomiting.

 

I think for sure the night shift is a factor, maybe the major one, but the Lamictal cuts show a definite pattern with the nausea.  If I were a patient woman I would hold it for a while and see if I still had the nausea just from the night shift alone. But I'm not very patient. I want off the stuff.

Has your acid reflex gone away ? I’m dealing with the same @Rhiannon

[Estman]

21 hours ago, Karma said:

To test for low stomach acid try this:

 

First thing in the morning, before eating or drinking anything:

Mix ¼ tsp baking soda in 4 to 6 ounces of cold water.

Drink the baking soda solution.

Time how long it takes for a burp to occur. Time it for up to 5 minutes:

If you have not burped within five minutes, it may be a sign of insufficient stomach acid. Early and repeated burping may be due to too much stomach acid (do not to confuse this with small burps from swallowing air when drinking the solution). Any burping after 3 minutes is an indication of low stomach acid levels

 

This is not an infallible test, but it is a good indicator. More people have too little stomach acid than too much.

 

If can find a nutritionist or naturopathic to work with, that is a good idea. One size doesn’t fit all and a more tailored approach is best.

 

I worked with a nutritionist and was put on a probiotic, HCL with pepsin with each meal, a significant amount of digestive enzymes with each meal and magnesium to bowel tolerance (as well as a gluten-free, dairy-free, low sugar diet). Over time I was able to reduce the amount of each of these supplements. 

 

Gut dysfunction has been proven to be associated with depression and immune system dysregulation. I implore you to find someone knowledgeable to work with for your specific situation. Sometimes these things can be corrected with diet and supplements, but sometimes there is something else going on that may require a more significant intervention (and I don’t mean antidepressants).

 

Karma 

Thank Karma,
I have added another capsule of ox bile with the meal
At first it seems that this also helps.
Although the blood samples are fine, could it be that weaning also reduces the amount of bile?
Therefore, the overgrowth of bad bacteria in the intestine.
It seems that a few hours after eating, gases are the ones that worry the most
Yesterday I added L-Glutamine to the water as a test, it was supposed to help reduce intestinal gas.
The stool is darker and you can't see the parts of undigested food (at the moment, I've only taken it for 2 days)
I have been on the same diet as you mentioned for 1.5 months
Gluten-free, no dairy products and as few sweet things as possible, mostly a little fruit)
At the same time, the depression is still quite strong, I'm probably used to having more energy.
What probiotics did you use?
I used Seeking Healt HistaminiX Probiotic for a few months and my condition got worse, maybe it was the wrong bacteria?
I have not used digestive enzymes.
I don't know if it would help and how much to take?

[Karma]

I am NOT a certified nutritionist. I’ve just worked with nutritionists to heal myself. I highly recommend you find a professional to work with you rather than trying various supplements you read about on the internet. Supplements work synergistically and there may be more support required here than what worked for me or at least what I recall.

 

Having said that, I’ve used many different probiotics over the last 17 years as it is necessary to switch things up after several years of the same supplement. I’ve used Nature’s Way Primadophilus (commercially available in the US.) Klaire Vital-10 and Klaire Ther-biotic Complete. The last two are only available through professionals to my knowledge.
 

I continue to work with a certified nutritionist to this day. Each individual is unique and there is more to healing through diet and supplements than observing your own symptoms, although that is a critical component.

 

I wish you well, but I will not be back to comment on this thread because my best advice is to find a nutritionist to support you on your journey. 
 

Karma

 

 

[Estman]

Does weaning cause slow digestion?
I have very strong nausea, especially during waves, it makes me vomit
After a meal, it's usually better for about 2 hours, and then nausea again and as if the food is fermenting inside
Along with this feeling of fermentation there is also severe dizziness and very bad dreams at night.
Even if I eat a light meal around 6 in the evening, I wake up with the urge to vomit at 1 or 2 in the morning
The nausea eases a bit only in the morning
I have lost weight, although the blood tests do not show any disease

[Frogie]

7 minutes ago, Estman said:

Does weaning cause slow digestion?
I have very strong nausea, especially during waves, it makes me vomit
After a meal, it's usually better for about 2 hours, and then nausea again and as if the food is fermenting inside
Along with this feeling of fermentation there is also severe dizziness and very bad dreams at night.
Even if I eat a light meal around 6 in the evening, I wake up with the urge to vomit at 1 or 2 in the morning
The nausea eases a bit only in the morning
I have lost weight, although the blood tests do not show any disease

I had nausea all through my Lexapro taper. I found eating light meals, no greasy things helped. Applesauce, peanut butter and crackers, soup. It does go away eventually.

[Estman]

On 3/30/2016 at 8:01 AM, grandmaD said:

Thanks Fresh for the info.  I had read about how good coconut oil was and did try it, but that was a while back and I had really bad gut issues and was not sure what was causing what, so I might give it another try.

 

I do use it as an all over body moisturiser as I have lots of wrinkles having lost a lot of weight, hoping that will help - and I love the smell.

 

I also have tried the apple cider vinegar but just 1tsp seemed to make my guts worse, so I am giving it a break until my belly feels better and I will try again with just 1/4 tsp.

 

I am also trying the magnesium water again at present and have to watch I don't introduce more than 1 thing at a time, which I tend to do and then end up just confused!

Did you also have the feeling that the food is left inside to ferment?
Did something help you, like ginger tea?
Unfortunately, every small dose reduction makes me the same situation
How long did it take for your digestion to return?

[Frogie]

6 minutes ago, Estman said:

Did you also have the feeling that the food is left inside to ferment?
Did something help you, like ginger tea?
Unfortunately, every small dose reduction makes me the same situation
How long did it take for your digestion to return?

Yes, I had very slow digestion.

I tried ginger, and Preggie Pops, I think they were called on Amazon. They helped.

It was a few months after I was off of Lexapro to straighten out. But everyone is different. That's why I suggested the above things to try.

[emilie]

On 10/07/2011 at 19:59, Rhiannon said:

En lisant sur le système nerveux entérique, le système nerveux dans l'intestin, il semble que quelque chose comme 70% de la sérotonine de notre corps se trouve dans ce système nerveux, dans nos intestins, donc pas étonnant que les ISRS causent tant de problèmes liés à la digestion.

 

Suivre le régime glucidique spécifique (j'essaie la version du régime GAPS) a fait disparaître mon reflux instantanément, mais n'importe quel régime pauvre en glucides aurait probablement fait cela. Pourtant, c'est un régime qui a aidé de nombreuses personnes souffrant de divers troubles intestinaux ainsi que d'autisme qui, apparemment, a presque toujours une composante intestinale. Je me demande si cela aiderait les personnes souffrant de troubles de la digestion en raison des dommages causés par les ISRS et d'autres médicaments psychiques.

 

Je pense qu'à tout le moins, si mon intestin envoie des millions de messages à mon cerveau chaque seconde, je veux qu'ils soient des messages heureux si possible.

 

Connaissez-vous quelqu'un qui a essayé le régime GAPs pour la guérison psycho-médicale ? à part moi, et Gianna.

 

Oh, cela a également réduit mes symptômes inflammatoires, la douleur constante est meilleure, et mon brouillard cog s'est beaucoup amélioré maintenant aussi et ma mémoire est également meilleure. La mémoire s'améliorait déjà en raison de la réduction.

in this study, they say 95% of serotonin is produce in intestine https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28035530/

[Chompoo]

Does anyone else get these symptoms?

(1) I feel as if my intestines are having muscle spasms. It comes and goes really quickly.

(2) When I eat certain food, I get prickling pain in the hands and feet. Sometimes, my foot starts vibrating or I get a short buzzing sensation on my forehead. Other times, I get prickling sensations in my stomach.

[Pete81]

I took 50mg Sertraline for 8 weeks, then tapered to 25mg and then 0. I've been off for four weeks but despite not taking the tablets for long, I am still having terrible daily stomach ache, gurgling and daily soft stool / diarrhoea. In addition I'm having vivid dreams every single night. These symptoms were also ones I had when starting the drug as I recall. Any advice / anyone experienced anything similar?

[modelarz71]

41 minutes ago, Pete81 said:

Brałem 50mg sertraliny przez 8 tygodni, potem zwęziłem do 25mg, a potem do 0. Byłem na zwolnieniu przez cztery tygodnie, ale pomimo tego, że nie brałem tabletek przez długi czas, nadal mam okropny codzienny ból brzucha, bulgotanie i codzienne miękkie stolce/biegunkę. Dodatkowo co noc mam wyraziste sny. Objawy te były również tymi, które miałem, gdy zaczynałem lek, jak sobie przypominam. Jakieś rady/ktoś spotkał się z czymś podobnym?

Unfortunately, I have the same thing: daily abdominal pain (varies), gurgling and belching. Sweating annoys me too, but waking up in the night is also bad. m taking a probiotic, but I'm not taking digestive enzymes yet. 
 

[FeralCatman]

I just found this article regarding traumatic brain injuries and their effect on gut function and think this probably applies to people in withdrawal since it basically is a traumatic brain injury. Unfortunately it doesn't make a lot of specific recommendations as it says that every patient is different and you need to consult your doctor and a nutritionist. Basically it recommends eat a good nutritious diet and drink plenty of water and stay hydrated. There's some other stuff but it seems like basically it ends up being a waiting game for your nervous system to untwist itself and for any damage to get repaired.

 

https://www.flintrehab.com/traumatic-brain-injury-and-intestinal-dysfunction-guide/

[Pete81]

6 weeks off Sertraline now and I am still waking up with stomach pain, urgent loose stool etc. What's more worrying and difficult to cope with is that despite feeling hunger noises in an empty stomach, I can't seem to eat much - just can't face it or get much down. I feel nauseous and gassy. Maybe slightly easier to eat as the day goes on but still difficult. I'm really scared there's something else wrong.

[FeralCatman]

On 8/21/2023 at 12:48 PM, Pete81 said:

I took 50mg Sertraline for 8 weeks, then tapered to 25mg and then 0. I've been off for four weeks but despite not taking the tablets for long, I am still having terrible daily stomach ache, gurgling and daily soft stool / diarrhoea. In addition I'm having vivid dreams every single night. These symptoms were also ones I had when starting the drug as I recall. Any advice / anyone experienced anything similar?

For any of the psychiatric medications it only takes about 4 weeks to develop a physical dependence and after that coming down off it you can experience withdrawal symptoms. You are on it for 8 weeks which doesn't seem like a lot but it's enough and came down off it quickly. The symptoms you describe are fairly typical for withdrawal syndrome and with time they will pass.

[FeralCatman]

I just found a study in a gastroenterology Journal that shows they have linked autonomic dysfunction to chronic constipation. Since withdrawal is autonomic dysfunction then this makes perfect sense why people have problems like this and they are finally starting to acknowledge and discover this.

 

https://www.gastroendonews.com/In-the-News/Article/09-21/Autonomic-Dysfunction-Chronic-Constipation/64553

[Vonnegutjunky]

On 11/29/2015 at 10:16 PM, Altostrata said:

I tried to explain above that the serotonergics may interfere with the normal function of serotonin in digestion and give several ways to reduce gut symptoms.
 
Among other things, serotonin stimulates the production of stomach acid and activity in the gut that moves food through the digestive process. If this is sluggish, food ferments, producing gases that bubble the acid up into your throat.
 
Stomach acid blockers, which should be taken by a very small number of people with certain serious digestive disorders, are a terrible solution to this symptom, due to low stomach acid rather than excess stomach acid. Stomach acid blockers reduce the production of stomach acid and make the whole problem worse, blocking absorption of nutrients such as vitamin B12 and creating opportunity for inappropriate small bowel bacterial overgrowth, which produces even more gas and discomfort.
 
Increasing stomach acid by taking betaine HCl with meals and DGL for reflux are key to managing symptoms. (Since I started using betaine HCl and eliminated FODMAPs, I've rarely used the DGL.)
 
See Chris Kresser Get rid of heartburn and GERD forever in three simple steps
 
Nutritional pharmacist Ben Fuchs  Benefits of  Betaine HCL

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946491/
Mol Pharm. 2013 Nov 4;10(11):4032-7. doi: 10.1021/mp4003738. Epub 2013 Sep 10.

Gastric reacidification with betaine HCl in healthy volunteers with rabeprazole-induced hypochlorhydria.
Yago MR¹, Frymoyer AR, Smelick GS, Frassetto LA, Budha NR, Dresser MJ, Ware JA, Benet LZ.
 

 

WebMD on betaine HCl http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-312-betaine%20hydrochloride.aspx?activeingredientid=312&activeingredientname=betaine%20hydrochloride
 
See cautions about taking betaine Hcl here http://scdlifestyle.com/2013/10/4-common-betaine-hcl-mistakes/

 

 

If you have either diarrhea or constipation after taking or going off psychiatric drugs, you have a form of iatrogenic Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS). This may involve dysbiosis (inappropriate bacteria in the gut, see SIBO above). Read up on gentle ways to correct this; your body may need a little help recovering its normal function after chemical disruption.

 

Just came here to see if anyone had issues with Betaine hcl with pepsin ? I think they may help my tummy issues - severe consistent GERD even with small meals- feeling like my food doesn’t digest in a timely fashion (still feel full in the morning) always gassy and constipated - also I had my gallbladder removed (don’t know if that makes a difference, but I was like this before it was removed) sometimes I wake up with a very strange feeling and taste in my mouth- it’s putrid, like the food had rotted / 

 

I used papaya extract and it barely helps - 

 

 Thanks to anyone who has taken this on a sensitized nervous system and can give some insight- 

 

 

[FeralCatman]

11 hours ago, Vonnegutjunky said:

 

Just came here to see if anyone had issues with Betaine hcl with pepsin ? I think they may help my tummy issues - severe consistent GERD even with small meals- feeling like my food doesn’t digest in a timely fashion (still feel full in the morning) always gassy and constipated - also I had my gallbladder removed (don’t know if that makes a difference, but I was like this before it was removed) sometimes I wake up with a very strange feeling and taste in my mouth- it’s putrid, like the food had rotted / 

 

I used papaya extract and it barely helps - 

 

 Thanks to anyone who has taken this on a sensitized nervous system and can give some insight- 

 

 

@VonnegutjunkyI am currently taking it and I'm finding it has improved my digestion and is not causing any problems. The capsules I bought contain 648 mg and I started with a quarter of that and I'm up to three quarters and probably tomorrow I'll be up to a full capsule. I have been getting undigested food coming through and within 24 to 48 hours of starting it even at the very low dose that stopped and now I'm not getting anything undigested coming so it is certainly helping. My next step will be to add in some digestive enzymes prescribed by my nutritionist that should also help take the stress out of my gut. Since you had your gallbladder removed you might want to go find a nutritionist if you can and inquire about digestive enzymes because you may not be producing them at the level you need to.

[FeralCatman]

As I am learning more about this process it seems pretty clear that a big part of it is people become sympathetic dominant and their stress response gets cranked into hyperdrive. In the beginning it seems like it's just one giant panic attack that lasts for days and weeks and sometimes months. For those having digestive issues there are established links between things like IBS and other digestive issues and anxiety and panic disorders. Here are a few links that discuss this and offer a few suggestions for stress reduction which can help with symptoms.

 

https://www.verywellmind.com/irritable-bowel-syndrome-and-panic-disorder-2584207

 

https://adaa.org/learn-from-us/from-the-experts/blog-posts/consumer/how-calm-anxious-stomach-brain-gut-connection

 

https://www.verywellhealth.com/ibs-and-panic-attacks-1945225

[FeralCatman]

11 hours ago, Vonnegutjunky said:

 

Just came here to see if anyone had issues with Betaine hcl with pepsin ? I think they may help my tummy issues - severe consistent GERD even with small meals- feeling like my food doesn’t digest in a timely fashion (still feel full in the morning) always gassy and constipated - also I had my gallbladder removed (don’t know if that makes a difference, but I was like this before it was removed) sometimes I wake up with a very strange feeling and taste in my mouth- it’s putrid, like the food had rotted / 

 

I used papaya extract and it barely helps - 

 

 Thanks to anyone who has taken this on a sensitized nervous system and can give some insight- 

 

 

For those that don't know, betaine is an amino acid that exists naturally in the body and we normally get that from the foods we eat. It is actually produced as part of sugar beet processing so it is basically an extract from beets. Betaine is also abundant in wheat and the straight betaine without the hydrochloric acid attached is actually used to treat high homocysteine levels in the body. The betaine hydrochloride is used to supplement stomach acid and lower the pH Down to the necessary level for food digestion to properly take place and to trigger the rest of the digestive process.

[Altostrata]

I'm finding a little apple cider vinegar in a glass of water is very helpful for digestion -- it adds a little acid.

[Vonnegutjunky]

Thank you both Catman and Alto - 

 

I wonder if I try ACV and it works if I’ll know that it’s low acid causing issues - 

 

 

that’s why I got the papaya extract but it really doesn’t help - 

 

gonna try the ACV tonight. 

[FeralCatman]

13 minutes ago, Vonnegutjunky said:

Thank you both Catman and Alto - 

 

I wonder if I try ACV and it works if I’ll know that it’s low acid causing issues - 

 

 

that’s why I got the papaya extract but it really doesn’t help - 

 

gonna try the ACV tonight. 

@Vonnegutjunky You could try the test in this video and see what happens it's actually how I confirmed that I have low stomach acid. I did have some symptoms of GERD coming back but when I started the betaine hydrochloride those symptoms went away so I know that those were due to low acid not high acid.

 

 

[Vonnegutjunky]

That seems easy enough to test for - thanks! 
 

Ferel, so have you usedACV in the past with partial results? 

[FeralCatman]

8 hours ago, Vonnegutjunky said:

That seems easy enough to test for - thanks! 
 

Ferel, so have you usedACV in the past with partial results? 

@Vonnegutjunky I have not used apple cider vinegar. I used lemon juice and it started to clear up my gerd symptoms so when I started the betaine hydrochloride they went away completely.

[BigCat]

12 minutes ago, FeralCatman said:

@Vonnegutjunky I have not used apple cider vinegar. I used lemon juice and it started to clear up my gerd symptoms so when I started the betaine hydrochloride they went away completely.

I tried organic apple cider vinegar with a little local honey. Worked a treat.  

[GGGG]

I'm 3.2 years off my medication and I still get bad reflux, bloating and nausea. I  got off my diet for 2 months and now I'm paying the price for it. I have 7 days eating right again.  I take aloe vera water 1oz, organic acid rescue( similar to tums) calcium carbonate i take 2 after every meal  baking soda 1 tsp in 8  oz water 10 min after meals. I wanted to get an h pylori test but the dr said I needed to stop taking the all the above for 2 weeks but I need it for my stomach. I ordered magnesium glycinate today. I dnt know if my stomach gastritis issues are from anxiety or infection? what should I do? A few days ago I tried meclizine( motion sickness pills)  and prilosec from the dr and gave me really bad anxiety.  

[Pete81]

Update: had colonoscopy last week and all was clear aside from one single non inflamed diverticulum. Despite this, my tummy issues of aches, bloating, diarrhoea and lack of appetite remain. Can it really all be due to withdrawal from spending just 8 weeks on 50mg Sertraline???? I don't generally feel anxious but could it have 'triggered' IBS? I'm also starting to worry about stomach cancer despite colon being clear - though I did have an endoscopy in Jan 22 which only found hiatus hernia, for which I take lanzoprazole 30mg daily. HELP!!!!

[modelarz71]

Hello, I'm a little surprised that this thread has so few pages because it's so easy to mess up your stomach when weaning,(I'm only writing this because mine got messed up so fast) I may have a sensitive stomach but it's never been like this. After a brief reintroduction for 3 weeks I weaned off the lex. Then for a month there was a strange sensation of overflow and started pain and digestive problems that are still there today (6 months) . 
I thought that psychiatrists who are "professionals" should know something about this, but they did not. They said it was my age, or that these drugs treat the intestines themselves - I felt like I was talking to a kindergartner. Perhaps I was their only such case but I don't suppose so. When I think about it I was horrified to think that psychiatrists don't really know about these pills they don't see how it works, and when I said that there are so many WD patients they said that millions take....