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1 hour ago, wantrelief said:

Hi RM!  Thanks for visiting my thread.  I am so glad you got a break yesterday and this morning where the tinnitus was better but sorry it has returned tonight.  Also sorry about your toothache - I hope it goes away on its own. Both the tinnitus and toothache sound like understandable reasons to feel short-tempered and anxious.  It sounds like you are doing really well, overall....so great you subbed two days in a row and it sounds like you feel good about the plan you set with your now ex-therapist.  You can do this, RM! :) 

You are a success story. It’s good to see. 

 

2001 Remeron , Celexa, prozac a week on lithium. 

2014 went off effexor and trazadone in 3 weeks. 

2014 zoloft (hyper reaction) put on effexor 75 mg. Was stable until 2017 

2017  Trazadone 50 mg (June) Effexor to 113 mg (2 weeks) Effexor 150 mg for a month . Took 75 mg until November. . Lithium 10 days, Lamactil 10 day  aug-nov15 ativan

October : Prozac bridge to get off 75 mg of effexor Used 10 mg of prozac. Stopped prozac 3 wk 

Dec 6, 7 Upped trazadone from 50 to 100 mg Did it for 3 days Stopped it

Dec 7 , Dec 8 Took prozac again 0.1 , 0.1, 0.6 stopped it

Dec 11 and Dec 12 upped it to 100 again

Dec 15 , 16,17 went back to 50 mg of trazadone

December 18 Began 3 beads of effexor  Dec 25 began 5 beads of effexor take 10 mg of omneprazole daily

 

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Hugs, RM. I have muscle tension with my anxiety.  Not fun.  Hang in there!

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

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Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

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2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Hugs, RM. I have muscle tension with my anxiety.  Not fun.  Hang in there!

Hi Rosetta,

I am just amazed at the number and variety of symptoms we experience as a result of ADs and withdrawal.  I just read some of Kelly Brogin's work; and although I don't idolize any particular psychiatrists as having "the answer," I think we can learn something from many of them, especially the ones that do not subscribe to the chemical imbalance myth.  If I paraphrase accurately, she says that depression is not a disease but more of a syndrome, a combination of conditions, and that we should be grateful our bodies can give us signals when something is going on that is not healthy.  I'm sure we would rather not have to think about these symptoms, much less experience them, especially to the intense degree that we do.  The people on this SA forum are certainly suffering from intense symptoms; but at least we are looking for real answers, not a "magic pill."  Hope your muscle tension and my tinnitus take a hike--along with the anxiety they hang out with!

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Thanks.  Me, too!

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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High spike day.  I didn't seem to have enough of the necessary courage to deal with it.  Crying, negative thinking.  Hopefully, tomorrow will be a better day.

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Hugs!

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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20 hours ago, RealMe said:

High spike day.  I didn't seem to have enough of the necessary courage to deal with it.  Crying, negative thinking.  Hopefully, tomorrow will be a better day.

I wanted to check-in with you and see how you are doing, RM.  You mention not having the "necessary courage to deal with it".  I think you exhibit courage everyday you get through with your symptoms and moving towards your goal.  We are going to have days that involve crying and negative thinking and that is ok.  I hope you are feeling a bit better.  You ARE courageous, RM.

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg

 

 

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2 hours ago, wantrelief said:

You ARE courageous, RM.

I agree

<3

 

we all are, really

 

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  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) 
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until  Sept, then acute WD hit!!  reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
  • Tapered off to zero by  Oct. 2017 Doing very well. 
  • Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 
  • Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content
  • Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs ;) 
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Doing better.

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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21 minutes ago, RealMe said:

Doing better.

xo RM

:)  :)  :)

 

that's cause for a celebration!! 

from your short post I gather better is not necessarily good, but it's wonderful that you're able to focus on the BETTER part.  good for you!

 

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  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) 
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until  Sept, then acute WD hit!!  reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
  • Tapered off to zero by  Oct. 2017 Doing very well. 
  • Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 
  • Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content
  • Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs ;) 
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Yay!

💃🏻 Happy dance!

 

xx lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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I have to get used to what feels like a setback but is just part of the windows and waves pattern of recovery.  It's just so hard when you are in the midst of it.  I can tell myself it will pass; but boy oh boy, it is tough going sometimes.  Thank everyone on this forum for the support.  I experienced some neuro emotions on Sunday when the family gathered together.  I can't help my adult children with their problems, and that was part of my difficult experience over the past few days.  They get to a certain age, and you just have to accept being "good enough Mom" and get on with your own life.

These symptoms of the past few days are lifting somewhat:

Lethargy/fatigue/anehedonia

Negative feelings of hopelessness/regret/isolation, blah, blah, blah

hypersomnia/cog fog

physical complaints

anxiety

I spent many years dependent on psychiatry and therapy and my gp, so I am venturing into the new territory of thinking for myself.  There's no room for self doubt in my recovery.  I know I will become more adept at handling these symptoms as well as habits of worrying.  I just have trouble distinguishing between which are symptoms and which are neuro emotions or bad habits of thinking.

 

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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you're doing great RM!!

 

you've got such a good attitude, no self pity, instead moving ahead in spite of how hard it is, and learning along the way

 

oh adult children are hard! I don't know about anyone else but I have a hard time seeing my daughter as an adult. I think it's why she stays away. :P

She just wants me to hear her, and offer emotional support- I want to "fix" things or I get overly involved. it's not good LOL but I think it's a common experience with adult children. it's so hard to redefine your relationship as they get older, eh?

 

 

I got something to try to help my tinnitus when it's quiet:

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079N8BNYX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I'll let you know if it works. One of the sounds on it is chirping crickets, which I love!! reminds me of summer nights when I was a kid. There's a couple that sound a lot like my loud refrigerator- I think I'll use those sounds at night. When the compressor shuts off on my fridge, I wake up from the silence LOL

 

I have some tinnitus around 4 pm- weird that it's at the same time every day!! makes me think it's WD related because I also had what is called the 'lexapro yawn" that would occur at set times during the day (usually also around 4 pm but sometimes earlier, like 11am to noon)

I don't know if this is due to what time I used to take the lexapro, or if it's somehow related to circadian rhythms or what....

 

anyway, I'm sorry that things are not quite where you want them to be, but I so admire how you don't let it discourage you.

 

you are a strong woman, an empowered woman!! 

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. 

  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) 
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until  Sept, then acute WD hit!!  reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
  • Tapered off to zero by  Oct. 2017 Doing very well. 
  • Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 
  • Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content
  • Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs ;) 
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5 hours ago, Happy2Heal said:

I'll let you know if it works. One of the sounds on it is chirping crickets, which I love!! reminds me of summer nights when I was a kid.

Thanks for the good messages, H2H!  I hope your new sound of chirping crickets works for you.  My best masker is a good ole shower!  And television works for me also.

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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11 hours ago, RealMe said:

Thanks for the good messages, H2H!  I hope your new sound of chirping crickets works for you.  My best masker is a good ole shower!  And television works for me also.

 

update on the "white noise" machine: I LOVE It! I turns out that chirping crickets don't help me sleep but there's one selection that sounds a lot like the compressor on my fridge so I used that last night and slept straight thru to my usual "bathroom run" around 5 am. Got right back to sleep and didn't wake up til I heard thunder around 7 am LOL

yep, real thunder! and it was pouring buckets!

gonna be a wet and wild day today here in NH 

 

Hope you have a good day RM!

 

oh speaking of showers, one of the sounds on that machine is rushing water (a brook, I think it's supposed to be) omgoodness does ANY one use that? It almost instantly makes you want to run to the bathroom LOL

 

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  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) 
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until  Sept, then acute WD hit!!  reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
  • Tapered off to zero by  Oct. 2017 Doing very well. 
  • Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 
  • Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content
  • Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs ;) 
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11 hours ago, Happy2Heal said:

Hope you have a good day RM!

My eye tooth is broken and has to be extracted.  I'm going to have an implant, so hopefully I won't be walking around too long with a big blank space in my mouth.  They are going to call me tomorrow to let me know when my appointment will be.  But actually I'm doing well today.  I kept busy, played a game with my granddaughter, went to the dentist, then the oral surgeon, then made dinner.  It's so strange that this pain and nuisance does not depress me.  My depressions don't always seem to be related to what's going on.  All things considered, I'm in a bit of a window today.  Thank heavens.  Hope you're well, H2H!

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Hi RM - I am so glad you had a "bit of a window day"....that is great news!  I wanted to empathize with you regarding the extraction.  I just had a tooth extracted and am walking around with a big blank space in my mouth.  :/  Unfortunately I had to have a bone graft done. Now I have to wait at least 5 months to see if I can have an implant...if not, I guess I'll have to have a bridge placed.  In a way it helps that I am not feeling well as I think I'd care more about the blank space and this whole thing if I was, if that makes any sense.  Anyway, I am sorry you are going through this too but am glad you know you'll be able to get an implant....hopefully there won't be much time between the extraction and getting the implant placed.  

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg

 

 

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Hi RM - I am so glad you had a "bit of a window day"....that is great news!  I wanted to empathize with you regarding the extraction.  I just had a tooth extracted and am walking around with a big blank space in my mouth.  :/  Unfortunately I had to have a bone graft done. Now I have to wait at least 5 months to see if I can have an implant...if not, I guess I'll have to have a bridge placed.  In a way it helps that I am not feeling well as I think I'd care more about the blank space and this whole thing if I was, if that makes any sense.  Anyway, I am sorry you are going through this too but am glad you know you'll be able to get an implant....hopefully there won't be much time between the extraction and getting the implant placed.  

Oh no!  Well, hopefully you will heal quickly and can get that implant sooner rather than later.  There is no way to tell until he does the extraction whether or not I will actually be able to get the implant.  So, fingers crossed.  I will be walking around with the blank space for at least a week while they make a temporary if all goes well.  I already feel sorry for myself, but not depressed.  I suppose that would be normal under the circumstances, but it's not that serious in the larger scheme of things.  Part of my recovery is to force myself to socialize, so that will be somewhat hampered, drat the luck!  Talk about being in the same boat.  At least we're not out of our minds with AD withdrawal, thank heavens!  

Wish we could get together for a cup of decaf tea, dear wantrelief!

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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have to get used to what feels like a setback

Me too! Your post was inspiring to me. Just so much acceptance. I am also wrestling with feelings about letting go off my adult children and accepting that I did the best I could with what I had at the time. And not letting the neuro emotions take me on some kind of extended wild ride. Hope today is a good day for you!

-DMV

2001- Klonopin 0.125 mg.  2011- increase to 1 mg.  2018- increase to 1.5 mg. Taper 2023-2024. Taper complete!

2010- Trials of SSRI's, several.

2011- Saphris 5 mg. CT. 6/2017- retry Saphris 5 mg sublingual, begin taper August 2020 10% taper with scale, and final taper liquid sublingual, August 2019- taper complete!

2011- Geodon 20 mg. Begin taper Sept 2019. 10% liquid taper. 2020: December-5 mg. 2021: Jan-4.5mg. (held Feb.for vacation). March-4mg. Apr-3.6mg. May-3.2mg. June-2.8mg. (Held July for vacation). Aug-2.4mg. Sept.- 2.2mg. Oct. 2mg. Dec 2022 - Taper complete!

2011- Gabapentin 300 mg to present- 2020. Increase 2023 to 400mg.

2014- Vyvanse 20 mg, 2020- Vyvanse 5 mg. Increase August 2022 20mg. CT (unavailable) 4/2023

2016- Lithium 300 mg, June 2016 - FT.

2017- Cogentin 0.5 mg. June-August 2019- off Cogentin.

2018- Lamictal 300mg. Holding

2021 - Hydroxyzine 30mg. Holding.

2014 Omeprazole 20 mg and holding, Omega 3's/fish oil, Magnesium

 

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Oh no!  Well, hopefully you will heal quickly and can get that implant sooner rather than later.  There is no way to tell until he does the extraction whether or not I will actually be able to get the implant.  So, fingers crossed.  I will be walking around with the blank space for at least a week while they make a temporary if all goes well.  I already feel sorry for myself, but not depressed.  I suppose that would be normal under the circumstances, but it's not that serious in the larger scheme of things.  Part of my recovery is to force myself to socialize, so that will be somewhat hampered, drat the luck!  Talk about being in the same boat.  At least we're not out of our minds with AD withdrawal, thank heavens!  

Wish we could get together for a cup of decaf tea, dear wantrelief!

xo RM

I will keep my fingers crossed that you will be able to get the implant, RM.  I wish we could get together too, we could really empathize with one another in withdrawal and with blank spaces in our mouths!

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg

 

 

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Me too! Your post was inspiring to me. Just so much acceptance. I am also wrestling with feelings about letting go off my adult children and accepting that I did the best I could with what I had at the time. And not letting the neuro emotions take me on some kind of extended wild ride. Hope today is a good day for you!

-DMV

Hi DMV,

Thanks for responding to me.  Hope you are having a good healing day today also!  It helps me to look back at where I was when I started coming off all these dreadful meds.  Talk about a wild ride!  I wouldn't complain about them if they worked for me, but instead they brought me down a rough, old rocky road!

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Had my tooth out today, and I have to take an antibiotic as well as ibuprofen and ice pack for pain.  I turned down the high velocity pain meds.  I told the oral surgeon I am very sensitive to medications.  It is quite painful, but I'm glad I can cope with it.  Even a month ago, I would have found it a lot more difficult.  I hope the meds I'm on don't rock my boat at all, but at least I'm clear in my thinking right now.  I think. lol.  That's all I want to do--cope with whatever life brings without carrying on or changing my brain.

My granddaughters are here for the weekend, as luck would have it. :)  This can work both ways.  Wish me luck.

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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I am glad everything went well with the removal, RM.  I've found Ibuprofen alone was fine for the pain so I think you'll do well with that.  I hope you have a good time with your granddaughters this weekend. :) 

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg

 

 

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Either the antibiotic or the ibuprofen is making me feel nauseous.  I called the surgeon, and he said I could stop the amoxicillin day after tomorrow, so I will stick it out for one more day.  I only took one ibuprofen today.  Taking pills is making me nervous.  I don't know if it's physical or emotional.  The discomfort from having the tooth pulled and the implant is not fun either, but getting better I suppose.  At least you can't see the blank space  unless I give a big broad smile, which I do not intend on doing!  I'm still dealing with my other symptoms, which I won't rail on about.  I took a short walk yesterday and today.

But this forum is about tapering from AD's, and in that regard I am doing ok.  Down to 1.4 mL Fluoxetine and feeling relatively stable and thankful.  With my history, that's a pretty fine state of affairs.

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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I hope you had fun with the little girls!  I hope your pain clears up quick. --R

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2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Hi RealMe, just stopping to say hello. Hope you're ok and recovering well from the tooth procedure. By checking your posts, I can see that you've made even more progress with tapering. Your determination and courage is something to be proud of.  You're clearly winning the battle with these bloody chemicals. 

Feb 2009-Jul 2015 was on Prozac 20mg/day

                               with breaks for weeks and months off

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Jul 2015-Feb 2016 off (cold turkey).

Feb 2016-Aug 2016 back on Prozac 20mg/day

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I hope you had fun with the little girls!  I hope your pain clears up quick. --R

 

Yes, thank you dear Rosetta.  They are a lovely distraction!  Hope you are doing well and your little girl too!

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Hi RealMe, just stopping to say hello. Hope you're ok and recovering well from the tooth procedure. By checking your posts, I can see that you've made even more progress with tapering. Your determination and courage is something to be proud of.  You're clearly winning the battle with these bloody chemicals. 

Hi Ogres,

So very good to hear from you!  You were one of the first to inspire hope in me about getting entirely off Prozac!  Just seeing your moniker makes me feel better, and I surely do appreciate your comments.  Have you done an update lately?  I hope you are well, friend!

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Hi Ogres,

So very good to hear from you!  You were one of the first to inspire hope in me about getting entirely off Prozac!  Just seeing your moniker makes me feel better, and I surely do appreciate your comments.  Have you done an update lately?  I hope you are well, friend!

xo RM

Thanks for your kind words :) It's a pleasure to know that my posts can be of any use to other people. Rather than myself by trying to journal and vent my thoughts. 

Hope you've recovered from the tooth extraction. 

you mentioned you're over-sleeping. Have you tried placing your alarm clock far from your bed so that you have to get up to switch it off? By which time it's easier to go to shower rather than back to bad. Sleeping too much is not very good for mood, energy. I remember it when on prozac. I could sleep for 10 hours and more. 

Wishing you all the best.   

Feb 2009-Jul 2015 was on Prozac 20mg/day

                               with breaks for weeks and months off

                               in between.

Jul 2015-Feb 2016 off (cold turkey).

Feb 2016-Aug 2016 back on Prozac 20mg/day

Sep 2016-         completely off (cold turkey)

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On 4/11/2018 at 3:25 PM, Ogres said:

Sleeping too much is not very good for mood, energy. I remember it when on prozac. I could sleep for 10 hours and more. 

I wonder if oversleeping is a common side effect of prozac.  When I first started taking it many years ago, it gave me an energy boost at first, but that wore off, can't say when.  If it is a symptom, then I can hope that this hypersomnia (oversleeping) will improve or go away when I complete my taper.  Anyone else have experience with this symptom (morning brain fog, oversleeping, dark thoughts, lethargy) improving after getting off prozac/fluoxetine?  Every night I tell myself I won't go back to sleep in the morning, but when the morning comes, my resolve is not there.  I have feelings of hopelessness, lethargy, tinnitus and such a strong desire to escape.  These feelings seem overwhelming.   I try not to beat myself up because they are actually much better than they were when I started WD.  I get up to get my granddaughters ready for school, then I go back to bed.  If they are not here, I just wake up, then immediately escape back to sleep till I finally get up.  The negativity usually improves as the day goes on.  I've had somewhat of a setback due to the oral surgery, antibiotics and ibuprofen, I think.  Today is my first day with no meds, so maybe I will see some improvement tomorrow morning.

 

If I schedule an appointment in the morning, it helps me to force myself to get up and out.  I haven't signed up to work because I can't see myself teaching with this missing tooth.  The kids would be skeeved, I'm sure.  I don't work often because it takes a lot out of me, and I'm never sure I'm actually going to be able to do it.  So far though, when I say I'm going to be somewhere, I manage to show up even if I don't feel at all well.  Maybe I have to schedule more stuff.

 

Wishing all my fellow survivors a good day of healing!

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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You, too, RM. - Rosetta

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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I wonder if oversleeping is a common side effect of prozac.  When I first started taking it many years ago, it gave me an energy boost at first, but that wore off, can't say when.  If it is a symptom, then I can hope that this hypersomnia (oversleeping) will improve or go away when I complete my taper.  Anyone else have experience with this symptom (morning brain fog, oversleeping, dark thoughts, lethargy) improving after getting off prozac/fluoxetine?  Every night I tell myself I won't go back to sleep in the morning, but when the morning comes, my resolve is not there.  I have feelings of hopelessness, lethargy, tinnitus and such a strong desire to escape.  These feelings seem overwhelming.   I try not to beat myself up because they are actually much better than they were when I started WD.  I get up to get my granddaughters ready for school, then I go back to bed.  If they are not here, I just wake up, then immediately escape back to sleep till I finally get up.  The negativity usually improves as the day goes on.  I've had somewhat of a setback due to the oral surgery, antibiotics and ibuprofen, I think.  Today is my first day with no meds, so maybe I will see some improvement tomorrow morning.

 

If I schedule an appointment in the morning, it helps me to force myself to get up and out.  I haven't signed up to work because I can't see myself teaching with this missing tooth.  The kids would be skeeved, I'm sure.  I don't work often because it takes a lot out of me, and I'm never sure I'm actually going to be able to do it.  So far though, when I say I'm going to be somewhere, I manage to show up even if I don't feel at all well.  Maybe I have to schedule more stuff.

 

Wishing all my fellow survivors a good day of healing!

xo RM

I don't have hypersomnia but relate to a lot of what you are experiencing which I believe for both of us is withdrawal induced depression.  I think the hypersomnia will improve once you complete your taper - or hopefully even before.  I have the opposite problem of waking up too early and not being able to go back to sleep but everything else is the same - dark thoughts, lethargy (this one is really bad for me), and hopelessness.  I think my body wants to escape by going back to sleep but it physically can't.  I am also like you in that it is hard for me to get out in the morning unless I have an appointment but I do seem to be able to do a bit more as the day goes on.  I also seem to meet obligations if they are scheduled as well.  

 

So it sounds like we have similar things going on, even a missing tooth!  

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg

 

 

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Hi RealMe

 

i was just reading your last post about hypersomnia.  i had it for 8 years on zoloft and zyprexa.  it was kind of the same story you mentioned where i was ok energy wise for a few years at the beginning on the drugs although i did get into a habit of taking 2 hour afternoon naps even though i was only 30 years old at the time and was only occasionally working part time jobs and not all that active.  i developed a stomach ulcer or gastritis about 3 years into taking the drugs and my slight drowsiness   later turned into hypersomnia.  i went from 2006-2014 sleeping 15+ hours a day and hardly left my apartment in that time.  The hypersomnia is a pretty common scenario with these drugs.  i have read a few posts of people describing my own circumstances exactly- where they would sleep 8-9 hours and the first thing that they would think of upon waking was when they could take another nap.    my naps when i had the hypersomnia were anywhere from 4-10 hours on the couch.  i sometimes had no idea if it was early morning or early evening when i woke because i was sleeping so much.   my self esteem suffered during that time because i wasn't doing anything with my life.   i really couldn't considering how the pills were affecting me.   i also did become anemic during that time, possibly from the zoloft  and an undiagnosed yeast/parasite issue which may have something to do with why i felt so tired all the time even though i was sleeping so much.

 

 i cold turkeyed my meds in 2014 and the hypersomnia did go away and i had more energy and became much more active only, now instead of sleeping too much the pendulum swung the other way and  i could hardly sleep at all which is an excruciating torment all its own, one that has had me wishing back to the days when sleep wasn't such a torment even though i hardly did anything with my life those years on the pills when i was sleeping all the time.    the insomnia from wd has been pretty brutal.    i am only 46 and have huge bags under my eyes now from the past few years of bad sleep- mostly it's shallow sleep, filled with nightmares where i wake up feeling miserable and extremely fatigued.  a lot of people have commented on how they wake up from wd sleep feeling like they have had a lobotomy or been out partying heavily the night before because the sleep quality is so bad and it's true.  by last summer my sleep had gone down to 2-3 hours a day and i was horribly depressed and ill with a host of stomach and digestion problems and mostly unable to leave my apt due to being so sick where before it was from sleeping so much.  i ended up trying remeron for sleep last summer and could sleep a little better but developed all sorts of side effect from the drug and had to stop taking it a month ago.  i have been horribly sick the past month with shallow sleep again and nausea. 

 

hopefully, with tapering you might avoid the insomnia thing.  Wishing you the best.

 

Sorry about this post.  i know it sounds pretty bad,  but i mostly just wanted to commiserate on the hypersomnia thing.   

 

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Court committed to take Prozac, Paxci, and Respiradol from 8/95 to 3/96.   developed severe akithisia and brain damage.  Was unable to speak and walking in circles 15 hours a day.  Went in for 5 sessions of ECT during a 10 day period in March of '96 and my forced medication was discontinued at that time.  My akithisia and brain damage cleared up within a few days of stopping the meds.

 

On Zoloft (200 mg) and Zyprexa (17.5 mg) March 1998- Feb 2014

In between was placed on Effexor 200 mg and Abilify for six months in 2004.  Developed mild akithisia which went away once I stopped the Abilify.  Developed severe GI issues in Dec 2001 and from that time on suffered from fatigue and hypersomnia where I would sleep between 12 and 20 hours a day and rarely ever left my apartment. 

 

Had tapered to 100 mg of Zoloft and 7.5 mg of Zyprexa at the time of going cold turkey Feb. 2014

Went 5 days without sleep at the beginning while vomiting all over my apt.  Had brain zaps for a number of weeks and also lightheadedness which both eventually went away.  However 2 1/2 yrs later I still struggle with insomnia, depression, and fatigue.

 

 

 

 

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So it sounds like we have similar things going on, even a missing tooth!

We sure do!  Thanks for holding my hand as we skip through these tulips! :)

 

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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hopefully, with tapering you might avoid the insomnia thing.  Wishing you the best.

 

Sorry about this post.  i know it sounds pretty bad,  but i mostly just wanted to commiserate on the hypersomnia thing.   

Don't be sorry, PoetJester.  I thank you so much for all the good and valuable information you gave me so generously from your own experience.  I have never experienced insomnia, but from what you describe it sounds really rough.  I hope your suffering becomes a thing of the past and that you find stability very soon.  What are some of the strategies you are using to cope with your symptoms since the remeron withdrawal?  Good for you that you were able to stop the remeron when you noted the side effects.  Thank you again for your help.

Best wishes,

RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Hi RealMe

 

with the remeron wd i had no strategies.  i have been deathly ill the past month.  the first few days i was vomiting.  then my sleep went way bad.  i am talking so low in quality that i wake up without much brain activity and feel so ill.  nausea and weird top of my head headaches all month.  basically i just laid on my couch for four weeks too ill to do anything.  i was swaying when i walked and so i biked 6 miles to the er a few days ago and got a script for temazepam so i could at least get some rem sleep.   the temazepam gave me a little deeper sleep which helped with my nausea and headaches.   i am talking with another woman on facebook who is going through remeron wd and is also about a month off and feels so sickly, too.  it's hard to describe.    i did do a parasite cleanse with a puree of raw pumpkin seeds and carrot juice the other day  and found a toilet bowl full of 3/4" worms last night.  it may explain my my horrible digestive problems, fatigue and insomnia to some extent.  

 

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Court committed to take Prozac, Paxci, and Respiradol from 8/95 to 3/96.   developed severe akithisia and brain damage.  Was unable to speak and walking in circles 15 hours a day.  Went in for 5 sessions of ECT during a 10 day period in March of '96 and my forced medication was discontinued at that time.  My akithisia and brain damage cleared up within a few days of stopping the meds.

 

On Zoloft (200 mg) and Zyprexa (17.5 mg) March 1998- Feb 2014

In between was placed on Effexor 200 mg and Abilify for six months in 2004.  Developed mild akithisia which went away once I stopped the Abilify.  Developed severe GI issues in Dec 2001 and from that time on suffered from fatigue and hypersomnia where I would sleep between 12 and 20 hours a day and rarely ever left my apartment. 

 

Had tapered to 100 mg of Zoloft and 7.5 mg of Zyprexa at the time of going cold turkey Feb. 2014

Went 5 days without sleep at the beginning while vomiting all over my apt.  Had brain zaps for a number of weeks and also lightheadedness which both eventually went away.  However 2 1/2 yrs later I still struggle with insomnia, depression, and fatigue.

 

 

 

 

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