keepinghope Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I am so embarrassed about posting this but I'm at the end of my tether. About 6 months ago I started noticing a bad smell (like really noxious farts - sorry but only way I can describe it!) when I was at work - I blamed it on colleagues and thought nothing more of it, until I noticed it seemed to follow me about. It went, then came back a few weeks later, then went again, and I realised I was passing gas without even realising it. I didn't even know that was possible, and was absolutely mortified. I did a google search and apparently there are a few sufferers out there, and it seems to be linked to IBS or SIBO. I thought it had gone for good but it came back this week, and it was so embarrassing at work because they all figured out it was me and now I am stressing about it happening again. No amount of clenching works either! I still get the normal gas too - but this is so weird, I can't even feel it happening. I just wondered if this was down to withdrawal - I've never suffered with this either before or while I was taking Prozac. Has anyone else had a similar thing happen? I've ordered some probiotics, everything crossed they work because the way I feel right now I can't even face going into work tomorrow. Every time I think withdrawal can't get any worse it goes all out and proves me wrong. What other joys does it have in store for me I wonder! I feel bad for every person I ever thought smelt bad, because now I know maybe they couldn't help it. I'm so sick of this! 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted October 27, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 27, 2017 My mother suffered from leaky diarrhoea and never found out what caused it. It wasn't a lot each time but enough for her to have to wear protection and take a change of clothes when she went out for the day. I know that my mother was taking Zoloft but don't know whether she went off it at some stage. After joining SA, I started wondering if it had been caused by withdrawal. Unfortunately I was not able to get further information because she died a couple of years before. However, it wouldn't surprise me if I was right. Simply an idea, maybe look into what charcoal tablets are used for. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowyowl16 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just reading this and I have suffered with terrible Ibs too. I went to a naturopath after GI MD could not help and was put on a good probiotic and digestive enzymes. It really helped mje. It could be you are not able to digest your food well and it ferments in the colon causing your problem. Just a thought. Start citalopram late 2004 20 mg/d, tapered to 10 mg 1xd on for several years Citalopram 5 mg 1xd, occasional attempt to taper; off citalopram 4 months Aug. 2016 Venlafaxine 37.5 mg 2 months Nov, Dec 2016 stopped ct and change to citalopram 10 mg/d severe withdrawal with daily nausea Citalopram 20mg/day April 2017 - Feb 21, 2018, Citalopram 15 mg/day Feb. 21 - 3/3/2018 Citalopram 20 mg/day 3/4/18, Citalopram 18 mg 1xd 3/5 - 4/1, Citalopram 17 mg 4/2, 16.6 mg 4/16, 16.2 mg 4/23, 16 mg 5/14, 15.8 mg 5/18, 15.6 mg 5/22, 15.4 mg 5/29, 15.2 mg 6/5, 15 mg 6/12, 14.6 mg 7/21, 14.2 mg 7/28, 14 mg 8/4, 13.6mg 8/18, 13.2 mg 8/25, 13 mg 9/1, 12.6 mg 9/22, 9/25 13 mg, 11/9 12.8 mg, back to 13 mg after a few days. 1/9/19 12.8 mg, 1/14 12.6 mg, 1/20 12.4 mg, 1/27 12.2mg, 2/4 12 mg, 2/24 11.8 ,3/1 11.6, 3/6 11.4, 3/11 11.2, 3/14 11, by 4/28 10 mg. Nov. 1 9.8 mg, Nov 8 9.6 mg, Nov 22 9.5 mg, slow taper down to 9 mg 1/27/2020. Slow taper down to 8 mg Sept 1 2020, decrease by approx. 10% a month to 5 mg/day Jan. 2021. Supplements/other: multivitamin, vitamin d 2000 u 1xd,, melatonin 0.75 mg mg 1xd prn, magnesium, Propranolol Sr 60 mg/day Feb. 2016 (?), alprazolam 0.125 mg prn (rarely taken) approx. <2 yrs Change to famotidine 20 mg prn, cetirizine 10 mg prn or loratadine 10 mg prn for allergy sx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglechicken Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Agree with snowyowl16, it's to do with bad bacteria in either the large or small intestine. Would be worth having some stool analysis done to see where the " dysbiosis" or gut imbalance is. A naturopath would be a good alternative health practitioner to approach about this. Dose History: 19 Feb 2014 - Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms faded. Held at this dose and experienced "windows and waves". 12 Oct 2017 Reduced dose to 1.25mg. 13 Mar 2018 Reduced dose to 0.625mg (approx.). 16 April 2018 0mg. Windows and waves triggered by stress (IBS/reflux, headaches, sinus issues) Aug 2019 Mirena coil fitted 6 Jan 2020 MAJOR Wave hit 19 months following last dose (protracted WD). Symptoms listed below Mar 2020 Mirena coil removal. Therapy: Nov 15th 2016 Re-started therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT Dec 2017 Started listening to Hypnotherapy CD (self-esteem). Nov 2019 Started couples therapy. Supplements: "Bioglan" Biotic Balance Ultimate Flora 10 billion CFU, live Bacteria, Probiotic, suitable for Vegetarians, with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Bifidobacterium Longum. "Pukka" Vitalise a unique blend of 30 energising botanicals. Diet: 16 April 2018 Detox cleanse / anti-candida for 90 days. Jan 2020 Started "small plate" diet (i.e child size portions). Exercise: Stretching, Yoga, Pilates, Spinning, Elliptical/upper body workout, walking. Medical Test Results: 4 Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 24 Feb 2017 Started weight loss program 24 Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment + anti-Candida diet started due to suspected Candida Related Complex (CRC). DETOXED for 7 weeks to "re-set" gut. April 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Comprehensive Stool Analysis NEGATIVE; Full Blood Count (Normal) / Blood Cholesterol: 5.6 (Borderline) / Blood Sugar (Normal) / 28 Jun 2017 FSH 8.2 / 14 Nov 2017 FSH 17.7 Dec 2017 Blood Cholesterol: 3.9 (Normal) / Kidney Function (Normal) / Blood Sugar (Normal). December 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Food panel allergy (bloodwork) analysis - a few "VERY LOW/VL" allergens; Mar 2018 "Genova Diagnostics" SIBO urine analysis: High Level of Yeast/fungal markers found in small intestine but NO SIBO. April 2018 Thyroid (Normal) / Full Blood Count (Normal) / FSH (Normal). 16 April 2018 Started anti-Candida diet - 3 month protocol. 25 March 2020 All test results "Normal". CRP" 5 mg/L (normal range to 0-5 mg/L). Symptoms: Flu-like symptoms, anxiety, anhedonia, sinus headaches right-side (severe), IBS issues/reflux (severe)**, tinnitus, fatigue, inner tremor, nausea, chills/hot flushes, pounding heart, muscular issues including stiff left hip flexor, intense anger, PSSD (ongoing). **Histhamine intolerance (suspected). Major Life Events: Re-located to UK from Canada: Jan 2016 My father died: 5:05pm, Monday 5 Feb 2018 Last Lexapro dose: 16 April 2018 (its now been over a year since I quit ADs) Moved house: Friday 23rd February 2018 "Divorced" toxic Mother: Monday 26 March 2018 Starting working again: 19 November 2018 Diagnosed with: 5th August 2021 PTSD/C-PTSD Diagnosed with: March 2022 Interstitial Cystitis (IC)/Painful bladder syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepinghope Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Quick update on this - haven’t been on here in so long! The ‘leaky gas’ is still happening, no one knows why, and I’m waiting on a referral to a colorectal specialist (NHS doesn’t move quickly for non-life threatening things - even though this condition has made me feel suicidal at times) I get that it might be caused by bad bacteria or gut issues - but it still doesn’t explain how the gas can pass without me even feeling or knowing anything about it. I’ve also been diagnosed with overactive / hypertonic pelvic floor dysfunction - I’m certain this is somehow related to increased stress and muscle tension from protracted Prozac withdrawal. I’ll have been off Prozac for 3 years in a month’s time. But I’m that desperate I’m considering going back on them just to see if it makes a difference to this gas, which would be proof it’s the withdrawal all along. I just can’t cope with it anymore. 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I have a doc costume in my wardrobe but this is an advise as a layman. Eat very healthy and use for some time things that are good for bowel (anti inflammation etc) movements, intestines etc. No sugar, alcohol, coffeine and up your fiber and drink water. Some exercise every day.(swim/run if possible) I advise you to try this drink for some weeks, it may help. Eat kefir every morning with nuts and seeds. I will not talk about all problems I had around this since I believe its too embarassing hehe. Rarely have any problems today. Good luck fellow AD warrior. Dont go back on it. It will not solve your farts. 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepinghope Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 You had a similar thing? Please private message me if too embarrassing - I’m at the end of my rope with this! How long did it take before it stopped for you? I’ve modified my diet to as clean as possible and nothing makes any difference. When I’m stressed it’s way way worse, which is what makes me suspect it’s linked to withdrawal. 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 15, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 15, 2018 Going on a FODMAPS diet can reduce gas production and help your gut settle down. See After excluding FODMAPS for a while, you can start adding them in again very gradually. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepinghope Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Thanks Alto, I’ve tried low FODMAPS diet (my diet right now is incredibly restricted) and while it helps the odour and quantity a bit I still leak gas without knowing about it. I think I’d rather suffer any other symptom than this, it’s unbearable at work and socially. I may have to try a low dose of Prozac to see if that makes any difference. Does 2mg sound reasonable for a reinstatement so far from a cold turkey? 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 No sorry I dont want to. The big difference is that I knew my issues started with Zyprexa and as well Trilafon. Though I had bigger problems as complete insomnia but I was having side focus on them as well when I started looking for solutions. Go to doctor just too see nothing serious plus it may take off stress. But even if it is,a very healthy lifestyle is probably the solution you wanna go with.. This includes food, exercise, relationships, mental thoughts, no stress etc. But I think exercise, diet are the two easiest to begin with. And if possible cut off people/activities that make you feel bad. Took me a long time to see progress but I think the drink I mentioned plus bone broth, more fiber,kefi among other things made a big difference when it comes to food. 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 15, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, keepinghope said: Thanks Alto, I’ve tried low FODMAPS diet (my diet right now is incredibly restricted) and while it helps the odour and quantity a bit I still leak gas without knowing about it. I think I’d rather suffer any other symptom than this, it’s unbearable at work and socially. I may have to try a low dose of Prozac to see if that makes any difference. Does 2mg sound reasonable for a reinstatement so far from a cold turkey? Have you tried taking enzymes with your food? The gas is from the right bacteria or enzymes not being present in your gut. Have you tried a mild probiotic? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepinghope Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Tried probiotics, either no effect or made it even worse. Enzymes are about the only thing I haven’t tried - but I don’t need to eat to leak the gas, I’ve been 2 days without food (as a test) and still leaked gas. I also dont understand how it can come out without me feeling it. It’s so frustrating, not understanding it or being able to control my own body. 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepinghope Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, frasier23 said: No sorry I dont want to. The big difference is that I knew my issues started with Zyprexa and as well Trilafon. Though I had bigger problems as complete insomnia but I was having side focus on them as well when I started looking for solutions. Go to doctor just too see nothing serious plus it may take off stress. But even if it is,a very healthy lifestyle is probably the solution you wanna go with.. This includes food, exercise, relationships, mental thoughts, no stress etc. But I think exercise, diet are the two easiest to begin with. And if possible cut off people/activities that make you feel bad. Took me a long time to see progress but I think the drink I mentioned plus bone broth, more fiber,kefi among other things made a big difference when it comes to food. I have been to the doctor - I’ve had more referrals than I can count. No answers. I am eating healthily as I said. I appreciate your help but I don’t think you and I were/are suffering from the same issue. Controlling stress is easier said than done when the whole time you’re worrying you’re going to create a bad smell without having any control over it/warning that it will happen, or sensation of it happening. 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 No noone is the same. As said I added drink mentioned and bone broth, kefir besides healthy diet. If you tried these for some weeks and no progress plus other things I mentioned then I maybe I cant help further. I wouldnt write like I did if I didnt relate to your texts. Regarding stress over farting. If someone gave you salary for doing nothing for 3 months so you could avoid situations where this stress appears you would solve those stress situations temporarely and maybe heal faster. What Im trying to say is that there is always solutions and some includes risks, cost money, cost relationsships etc. 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepinghope Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 It happens a lot less when I’m at home and relaxed, or around friends I’m comfortable with, so I know there’s definitely a stress factor in there.... Sorry if I came across that I’m discounting your advice, I’m not at all and appreciate everyone’s help, I’m just losing the will to fight this I think. I had a very embarrassing encounter with a guy I liked and it’s left me feeling disgusting and like this is permanent now. It’s been 9 long months (plus 2 years of horrific WD before that) and I want my life back. 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Yes I understand that. And its sad. Many of us here has had sad lifes last couple of years (from a "healthy" persons standpoint). I try to focus most of my time here on solutions only. One important thing and maybe the most important thing for many is to accept that the recovery will takelong time and our focus should be to heal as fast and good as possibly. Things that is not helping recovery isnt important right now. Ive put many relationsships on hold in various degrees for the last couple of years. I dont want to feel negative feelings with anyone due that Im not ~100%. Im not strong enough today to do public speaking/ whatever. So I will not do it simple. Im not confident/ healed enough to be living with a another person so I dont do it and so on. I would like to do both but I put them on hold. Maybe and hopefullly I can do them in the future and thats enough for me. To have that hope. You cant chose everything in life but right now Im chosing only things that helps me and doesnt mess with my healing, feelings, confidence etc. I wouldnt care about that encounter since it doesnt help your healing. But I would avoid another one(because it affects confidence. If possible you could tell him you had some bad food / sleep piils it will make the probability that he tells his friends much less and maybe you can laugh about it or at least feel better about it) plus try even more home remedies taken from this forum or other sources. 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepinghope Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 7/15/2018 at 8:18 PM, frasier23 said: Yes I understand that. And its sad. Many of us here has had sad lifes last couple of years (from a "healthy" persons standpoint). I try to focus most of my time here on solutions only. One important thing and maybe the most important thing for many is to accept that the recovery will takelong time and our focus should be to heal as fast and good as possibly. Things that is not helping recovery isnt important right now. Ive put many relationsships on hold in various degrees for the last couple of years. I dont want to feel negative feelings with anyone due that Im not ~100%. Im not strong enough today to do public speaking/ whatever. So I will not do it simple. Im not confident/ healed enough to be living with a another person so I dont do it and so on. I would like to do both but I put them on hold. Maybe and hopefullly I can do them in the future and thats enough for me. To have that hope. You cant chose everything in life but right now Im chosing only things that helps me and doesnt mess with my healing, feelings, confidence etc. I wouldnt care about that encounter since it doesnt help your healing. But I would avoid another one(because it affects confidence. If possible you could tell him you had some bad food / sleep piils it will make the probability that he tells his friends much less and maybe you can laugh about it or at least feel better about it) plus try even more home remedies taken from this forum or other sources. I’m tired of putting my life on hold. I have no quality of life anymore and I wish I’d never come off Prozac. I think dr Healy is right when he says he no longer recommends that ppl who’ve been on these drugs longer than 10 years come off them. (Or may have been glenmullen or Breggin?) Can’t remember. Poor memory and brain fog are other classic WD symptoms I suffer with, but I’d take them anyday over incontinence. 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frasier23 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Sorry for hearing that. I would remember though that things could be worse. Not being able to write or read etc. But I hear you and I was never on meds for 10 years but last 10 years Ive had to put things on hold and last last 3y have been disaster. Though Im better now and I believe I will do a lot of things in the future and I try to excel in other areas meanwhile since I know Im loosing time. Your time with guys in future when youre healed will be awesome . I found a lot of inspiration from cancer patients and what diet they tried. From there I found some of the recommendations I wrote about earlier. I believe they can work/make things better for you.. Btw yourre off meds now right? Try heal now as fast as you can. 2015june psyc ward due to psychosis 10 days 10mg zyprexa. stopped cold turkey. side effects were blinking eyes, eyes shut down by themself when going to sleep, restless,hunger. I had natural sleep (6hrs) before zyprexa. Slept exact 8hours with zyprexa. 2015july one month after cold turkey(had own sleep during this time exact 8hours every night, felt like zyprexa sleep even though i didnt take it) I lost my sleep over a night and it never came back. 0hours for 7-10days before I had to reinstate zyprexa on 5mg first 2days 10mg 1week 5mg 1week and then stopped CT. maybe also had 7.5 and 2.5 some days dont remember. 2015sept/october 3weeks Nitrazepam 1w Theralen build of sleep 2016may psyc ward psychoziz. Trilafon injection Immovan 3weekz 2016june 1week theralen had some extra sleep but realised its just pushing problem forward i guess 2019 Ive now been medicine free for almost 2.5 years (I think last Trilafon injection was 2016 October) and still not fully recovered. I believe my overdose on Zyprexa (20mg + injection) did most damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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