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you believe you have gotten over a trigger, only for it to rear an hour later

 

This is exactly how all wd is... windows and waves you think it is gone but it is not gone 

 

if you think about the circadian rhythm ... it is a set cycle our bodies have all chemicals and neurons and very complex from light entering the eye signalling the release of serotonin to darkness signalling the release of melatonin ... 

 

how many possible rhythmic systems could our bodies have that are chemically/neuronally (not a work but it is about the food not the taste)  regulated....

 

around and around we go in all these small trips a hostage to our system that once served us now they are boss of the boat... so we have to let it go and try to live with it as our bodies try the best they can to reach equilibrium...

 

what appears to make no sense often is just part of the old rubic cube...

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/5511-video-describing-withdrawal-that-i-like/?hl=rubic

 

it is what it is and sometimes we can affect it and help ourselves and sometimes not so much....

 

deep relaxation in a utube video I found was one of the only things that helped me with some of those things... and heat on the spine ... could be cause my back hurt and I was always cold or it could be true what I read about heat on the spine increasing norephinephrine... hard to say it doesn't matter cause it worked...

 

peace 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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like intrusive thoughts.. I got to calling them Effexor thoughts and ignoring them till I found the power of now and learned to meditate like this... 

watch intently for the next thought when it come start over... 

 

that is it no big deal is it.. simple but hard to get to work but once it does it works forever... even a year later when I thought all that crap was gone and I caved back to what I thought would be the hard work of winning over my thoughts again... it was instantly available to me and worked like a charm ... 

 

like an old car or something well made it was so worth the initial investment. 

peace

 

I recommend the book the power of now still to anyone or everyone

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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like intrusive thoughts.. I got to calling them Effexor thoughts and ignoring them till I found the power of now and learned to meditate like this... 

watch intently for the next thought when it come start over... 

 

Thanks btdt, thats a technique i have been trying too.  Still trying, but just like yourself, i know i will get it one day. :)

 

Will look up 'the power of now' book. Ta.

In 2001 - started on Carbamezapine (can't remember dose), Fluoexitine 20mg, Clanozepam (low dose) after a nervous breakdown.

In 2004 - abruptly stopped carbamezapine after falling pregnant.  

In 2009 - changed from Fluoexitine to Citalopram 20mg.

In 2014 - tappered off clanozepam.

In Aug 2015 - cold turkey off Citalopram :o

From Aug - Dec 2015 I had mostly flu-like symptoms and trouble sleeping. From Jan - April 2016 Emotional nightmare ensued, paranoia, excessive anxiety and tormenting thoughts, basically trying to manage these emotions and thoughts which are exhausting.  Lots of intense emotions followed by tears, at times howling when Im alone.In March 2016 I tried Choline & Inisitol, Vit B Complex, Using Aromatherapy, like Lavendar, Clary Sage and others.

In April STOPPED Choline & Inositol as I beleive it was giving me shakes and making me more anxious.  It also made me feel like i'd taken a benzo tablet making me feel sedated.  Reading - The Body Keeps Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk (recommended by a member on this group).

Symptoms - extreme low self esteem and insecurity, intense emotions and tearfulness. This is so so hard.  But im going to keep pushing.  Feel bad for my 2 girls and husband.  I don't want to be seen in this way, especially by the girls. Self-help : praying, meditating, breathing exercises and physical exercises.

Ceterizine (antihistamine) - I've been taking this for many years now for itchiness in my palms and feet.  I take them as and when I need them. JULY 2016 Dr Bach homeopathic remedies and 'rescue remedy'

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like intrusive thoughts.. I got to calling them Effexor thoughts and ignoring them till I found the power of now and learned to meditate like this... 

watch intently for the next thought when it come start over... 

 

Thanks btdt, thats a technique i have been trying too.  Still trying, but just like yourself, i know i will get it one day. :)

 

Will look up 'the power of now' book. Ta.

I think CW sent me a link to a pdf of the book on my page you can find my page at the end of my post it is a blue link

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Yes I've had unendurable crying spells similar to how you described it Lilu. 12 hours straight then break for 3 hours then off again. They've been worse over the past 7 weeks since I had my last tiny dose of Pristiq. My family don't know what to do with me- they must feel very uncomfortable around me but I can't control it. The last three days have been better- largely due to the fact that I slept for 12 hours straight for the first time in about 7 months, but I did have to take Quetiapine an antipsychotic in order to achieve this! It is amazing what a good sleep can do for you. I don't know if it's the Quetiapine that has made me stop crying or the good sleep but anyhow it's a huge relief to not wake up at 4am with anguish and tears. 

About 20 years on SSRIs and SNRIs since 1995. Was diagnosed with 'Post Natal Depression' after suffering from extreme fatigue. I was not depressed or anxious.

Tried about 5 times to stop due to intolerable side effects (uncontrollable rage, impulsivity, detached emotions, memory loss, slow reactions and lowered intellectual ability) but unable to due to extreme withdrawal symptoms. 

Had ECT therapy in 2009 after reinstating of Effexor and many other ADs failed.

ECT great success but Pdoc prescribed Effexor again to prevent relapse.

Effexor for two years after having ECT therapy. 

Tried to withdraw form Effexor again 2010 but aborted due to the death of my father  and withdrawal symptoms unbearable with grief.

Recently on Pristiq 100 for 5 years.
Jan 2017 Have been tapering over ONE YEAR from Pristiq and have now completely stopped for 7 weeks. Experiencing severe waves of melancholia and anxiety.

Would like more ECT. Feel that my body is over sensitive to SSRI and SNRI meds.

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Yes I've had unendurable crying spells similar to how you described it Lilu. 12 hours straight then break for 3 hours then off again. They've been worse over the past 7 weeks since I had my last tiny dose of Pristiq. My family don't know what to do with me- they must feel very uncomfortable around me but I can't control it. The last three days have been better- largely due to the fact that I slept for 12 hours straight for the first time in about 7 months, but I did have to take Quetiapine an antipsychotic in order to achieve this! It is amazing what a good sleep can do for you. I don't know if it's the Quetiapine that has made me stop crying or the good sleep but anyhow it's a huge relief to not wake up at 4am with anguish and tears. 

Hi Pinkslippers, I'm sorry to hear that you are too going through long-lasting crying spells.  Without drugs, I don't know if they will ever go away.  My crying spells started or became really bad 4 or 5 months AFTER my last dose of Lexapro (which was just a bridge from being on Effexor & Pristiq for 8 years).  

 

The crying spells only got worse and wouldn't subside until I went on the full dose of Lexapro.  I wish I had never let myself suffer for as long as I did. It broke my nervous system and traumatized me. The insomnia and the crying spells were pure torture.  The Lexapro is working for me, and I have hardly cried in a year and a half. I can cry if something moves me or if I get really upset, but the tears are not uncontrollable or long lasting.

 

I have made peace with the fact that these drugs changed how my brain functions, and I will have to be on antidepressants for the rest of my life.  As long as they keep working, I'm ok with that.

I have always struggled with occasional crying spells and mild depression.

 

But in your case, you were mistakenly put on them for postpartum depression, and you mistakenly stayed on antidepressants for way too long. I have a friend who's had postpartum depression with both her kids. And both times, she's gotten of the meds after 4 months, without any withdrawal.

 

Since you've been on antidepressants for so long, I don't really know what will work for you. Seroquel, an antipsychotic is not the answer.  It will do even worse things to your body than antidepressants did.

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2005-2008: Effexor; 1/2008 Tapered 3 months, then quit. 7/2008-2009 Reinstated Effexor (crying spells at start of new job.)
2009-3/2013: Switched to Pristiq 50 mg then 100 mg
3/2013: Switched to Lexapro 10mg. Cut down to 5 mg. CT for 2 weeks then reinstated for 6 weeks
8/2013-8/2014: Tapering Lexapro (Lots of withdrawal symptoms)
11/2014 -8/2015: Developed severe insomnia and uncontrollable daily crying spells
12/2014-6/2015: Tried Ambien, Klonopin,Ativan, Lunesta, Sonata, Trazadone, Seroquel, Rameron, Gabapentin - Developed Anxiety disorder, PTSD, and Psychogenic Myoclonus
7/2015-1/2016: Reinstated Lexapro 2 mg (mild improvement, but crying spells still present)

1/2016-5/2017: Lexapro 5 mg ( helped a lot, but poor stress tolerance & depressive episodes)

5/20/2017 - Raised dose to Lexapro 10 mg due to lingering depression(Total of 2 failed tapers & severe PAWS)

9/11/2018 - Present: Still on 10 mg Lexapro and mostly recovered.(Extremely sensitive to stress which triggers Myoclonus.)

Intro page: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4149-lilu-depression-worsened-by-meds/

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I want to just say a word. I believe pristq is the extended release version of Effexor. Perhaps switching to Effexor would be more appropriate and once making the switch and settling out on it, then begin the taper. The crying is a discontinuation symptom. Both pristq and Effexor are venlafaxine. Check the active ingredients. Do your homework on this. Not sure if this is helpful or not.

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Request: Please continue discussion of Pinkslippers' situation in her introduction topic.

 

Pristiq is a "child" drug or derivative of Effexor. Effexor XR and Pristiq are both extended release formulations.

 

Effexor (venlafaxine) was released initially as an immediate release. The extended release version, Effexor XR, was developed to allow once-a-day dosing and to avoid interdose withdrawal.  Effexor/venlafaxine is available by prescription in its original immediate-release formulation in some jurisdictions. You have to check with your national drug licensing body, the equivalent of the US FDA, to see what formulations and doses have been approved for patients in your country.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results

Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


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I have the uncontrollable crying too but it's coupled with an agitation in my brain that makes me want to rip off my skin....does this sound familiar to anyone?

Rx'd 1-2mg Clonazepam for anxiety April 2016 (after one panic attack); asked to be taken down off of it due to it being benzo (I didn't do my research)...Placed on 10mg Lexapro-had reaction (crying hysterically, digestive issues, mood swings) to it; taken off (May '16) ; took myself down off Clonaz from 1 1.5 to .5 (probably last of May) in relatively short time (didn't know better); threw me into tailspin-no sleep for a week, dizzy, brain fog/dp/dr; went to another doctor who knew that Lex had helped me years ago (2014; 40mg) so pushed me to get to 40mg; stayed on for three months June-Aug; sick to death; quit doctor went to Psych PA who brought it down to 10mg  (end of Aug) and added 5mg Buspar x2/day; was okay for awhile then crying spells returned-same symptoms experienced as I did when on med; pysch took me off Lex; (Sept 19th); took myself off Buspar thinking it had made heart run/tachy (latter Sept); currently only on .5 Clonaz and miserable (weakness daily, apathy, anxious, tachycardia, occasional high bp, spacey, brain fog/dp/dr.)

 

Breakdown of Escialopram use: 10mg in May for one week; discontinued due to horrible side effects;

Placed back on Escitalopram in latter May, early June by doctor who knew it had worked for me in the past...pushed me from May to August to get to 40mg; all the while symptoms and my complaining to doctor-kept pushing me. 

Went to psych PA who took me down from 40 to 10 that initial visit added Buspar 5mg x 2; felt a little clearer; then began feeling crying spells again. Doctor ct'd me -told me "Try to see how you feel after one week without it". All this time, I had been emailing him to let him know my symptoms and he basically told me to stop; quit him and found a PA who has been overseeing my care-he's an advocate of meds though...thinks there is no tolerance on Clonazepam.

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Thanks for all the info on crying, and withdrawal emotions. 

I used to cry at least once a week as a child-teenager, and less often in my 20's, usually when premenstrual. My family used to call me a crybaby.

I think that my tears are caused usually by frustration mixed with anger/outrage/ a sense of being misunderstood. Being tired or overworked puts my emotions close to the surface.

Since I was put on the psychiatrists' favourite cocktail of Venlafaxine + Mirtazapine, with a twist of Lorazepam, all of my emotions have been flattened. But lately, as I taper off Mirt, any emotional challenge sets me off sobbing for HOURS. I am glad to see that (from James Heaney's article, thanks for the link, @Lilu) this is actually a sign of my brain resetting its serotonin levels. I can survive this.

 

Hope you are all doing okay out there.

January 2021: Cut Venlafaxine XR by 9% to 125mg; holding Lorazepam at 1.25 mg.

October 2020: Reduced Venlafaxine XR to 137.5 mg while keeping Lorazepam at 1.25 mg.

August 2020:  Made a 16% reduction in Lorazepam at psychiatrist's recommendation (1.25 mg) while holding Venlafaxine at 150 mg.

March 2019 - March 2020: Venlafaxine  XR tapered from  337.5 mg  to 150 mg (60% reduction), while continuing 1.5 mg Lorazepam.

March 2016 - January 2019: Mirtazapine taptered to 0, while continuing on 1.5 mg Lorazepam and 375 mg Venlafaxine XR.

Feb. 2015: 7.5 mg Mirtazapine + 1.5 mg Lorazepam + 375 mg Venlafaxine.

 

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During one day of acute depressione in wich i cried, i came up with this theory that crying is actually helping us by signaling our body that we need more energy to overcome hard obstacles of life.

 

I think (even if i have 0 proofs) that "feeling" a trauma and crying help us to stay better after.

Maybe during a crying some genes are activates and alter the number of some neurotransmitter receptors ?

 

who knows, but i'm sure what we have NOT to avoid is expressing our emotions and think about our problems , since that's the exact mentality wich led many on psyco drugs and chronicized issues

 

 

I'm sorry, didn't write a proper diary and my memory is very bad, can't remember exactly all dosages . Here is a short summary

Drugged since i was 11 yo.

Prescribed several SSRI, neuroleptics, mood stabilizers, benzos.Last prescription was lithium, lamotrigine , 20 mg paroxetine, rivotril

Tapered fast lithium and lamotrigine with little to no symptoms 3 years ago.Since then i'm tapering paroxetine and going through withdrawal syndrome. My tapering was not   stable and that's probably the cause of a lot of acute symptoms i had .

Currently at 0.8 mg of paroxetine

Trying now a micro-taper of 0.02 cuts

15/07/2017 tapered to 0.74  (having waves and windows. Cognitive impairment, akathisia, apathy, anxiety, vision problems, depression, paranoia, obsessive toughts, extreme fatigue,  and some more: all comes in waves except vision problems wich are persistent)

08/09/2017 0.72 mg 28/09/2017 0.70 mg

 

 

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How is everyone here doing that had crying spells? I am experiencing them daily sometimes multiple times a day. I was out to dinner last night and had to run to the bathroom to cry. I am seriously considering going back on prozac because this is a major disruptor for me, it is difficult to focus on work. I NEVER felt this sadness and crying before I even went on the meds. I feel if I go back on prozac, I wasted so much time and effort with the withdrawal process, and have to start over again. It is a very hopeless and defeated state to be in. 

Currently off Meds 

2 years Prozac

18 years Zoloft

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On 9/16/2017 at 5:12 PM, Beachlover said:

How is everyone here doing that had crying spells? I am experiencing them daily sometimes multiple times a day. I was out to dinner last night and had to run to the bathroom to cry. I am seriously considering going back on prozac because this is a major disruptor for me, it is difficult to focus on work. I NEVER felt this sadness and crying before I even went on the meds. I feel if I go back on prozac, I wasted so much time and effort with the withdrawal process, and have to start over again. It is a very hopeless and defeated state to be in. 

 

I felt exactly like you do, and endured severe crying spells that would last almost all day every day for a year. I wish I hadn't it.  It destroyed me and my nervous system.  I hung in there through the worst withdrawal symptoms imaginable, believing that I would start getting better, but I only got worse.  Wanting to be drug free is not worth hurting yourself this way, no matter how long you've been withdrawing for.   As the admins on this site advise, if you have withdrawal symptoms that last more than several days, you need to reinstate your medication, stabilize, and then taper even more slowly than before.  Microtaper, if you have to.  

2005-2008: Effexor; 1/2008 Tapered 3 months, then quit. 7/2008-2009 Reinstated Effexor (crying spells at start of new job.)
2009-3/2013: Switched to Pristiq 50 mg then 100 mg
3/2013: Switched to Lexapro 10mg. Cut down to 5 mg. CT for 2 weeks then reinstated for 6 weeks
8/2013-8/2014: Tapering Lexapro (Lots of withdrawal symptoms)
11/2014 -8/2015: Developed severe insomnia and uncontrollable daily crying spells
12/2014-6/2015: Tried Ambien, Klonopin,Ativan, Lunesta, Sonata, Trazadone, Seroquel, Rameron, Gabapentin - Developed Anxiety disorder, PTSD, and Psychogenic Myoclonus
7/2015-1/2016: Reinstated Lexapro 2 mg (mild improvement, but crying spells still present)

1/2016-5/2017: Lexapro 5 mg ( helped a lot, but poor stress tolerance & depressive episodes)

5/20/2017 - Raised dose to Lexapro 10 mg due to lingering depression(Total of 2 failed tapers & severe PAWS)

9/11/2018 - Present: Still on 10 mg Lexapro and mostly recovered.(Extremely sensitive to stress which triggers Myoclonus.)

Intro page: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4149-lilu-depression-worsened-by-meds/

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Hello All,

 

With regards to the crying episodes. I am experiencing them at the moment or the urge to cry at least. Do you allow yourself to sit and let the tears flow or do you have distraction techniques and see if the urge passes? I'm always caught up in between being honourable to my feelings and sitting with them or wether to distract myself and see if it passes. It feels like my soul is repairing itself by crying but I can snap myself out of it so Im always unsure which is the best approach?

 

Anyone else have similar thoughts?

 

Thanks, 

Paxil/ Seroxat since 2001 (16 years) 

 

10mg since 2010

 

Tapered from 10mg February 2017 to 2mg until August 2017 (crashed)

 

Currently on 8mg

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I could have written the same post.  I too would like some help with this.  I thought I would be healed by now. I'm much better but the sadness and tears overcome me more than I would like to admit.

May 12th 2016 took last bead of effexor. 8 month taper.  Bridge = prozac 5mg, 300mg Lithium

May 31st took last of prozac. Lithium 300 mg, estrogen patch 150, magnesium.

June 14th reinstated 1mg Prozac due to intolerable emotional distress. Cont with lithium 300mg, 150 magnesium, re added omega 3, cont estrogen patch. June 15-july 5th had marked improvement of emotional wd symptoms, likely due to the reinstatement. July 5th intense emotional symptoms returned.

July 15 decreased 50 mg of lithium to see if it improved low heart rate.

July 19th - increased prozac to 1.5mg.

July 22 marked improvement of emotional symptoms...again, likely due to increase of prozac. However sudden agitation developed so decreased back down to 1.25mg prozac. Realizing increasing dose is dangerous because of these adverse effects and also seeing that wave is inevitable regardless of reinstatement.

Continuing 250 lithium, 1.25mg prozac, estrogen.

Oct 31st - continued 250 lithium, 1 mg prozac, estrogen patch.

Jan 2018  - off of prozac (bridge) as of Dec 2017.  Starting to taper Lithium 250 mg.  Will do 10% per month. 

May 2018 - lithium 115mg.  Still having waves but they aren’t as bad.  However, I really struggle with emotional symptoms about 1 week after a cut.  Even this past micro taper of 1.5% was tough.  That was after holding for a month.

dec 2018- 80mg lithium.  Tapering 1 mg per week since last June.  Symptoms improving overall but still very sensitive to light, sound, social stimulation and I cry a lot.

March 2019 - 65 mg lithium.  Still tapering 1mg per week.  

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Is anyone else experiencing this?  Seems to be an after effect of taking my dose of Ativan or than may be a coicidince.   It's getting really tough and the is a general feeling of queasy depression in my gut if that makes any sense.   I'm taking only Ativan currently but have come off some pretty heavy stuff.   

Psychotic break due to opiate withdrawal.  Put on 2mg risperidone July 23 2017.   Cut dose to half aug 23, two weeks later panic attacks and hullucinations.  Upped dose to 2mg but problems continued. Anxiety, restlessness, then disconnected thinking and shakiness in legs, burning and pressures on top of head.

ativan for depression and anxiety following spinal surgery 1998.   Had adverse reactions,  crying agitation and was hospitalized because of these effects.    Tapered off ...not correctly, but the dose was low.   

nucynta for back pain (very low dose).  About u-8 yrs quit cold turkey July 2017

risperdone 2mg July 23 2017

Quit risperidone Ct on sept 13 2017

started seroquel on sept 13 2017,  50mg at night and 50mg divided up during the day.

Eliminated seroquel Oct 12 2017,  

 Started lorazepam sept 26 2017.   2 mg at bed time and 1-2 as needed during the day.  My anxiety and crying spells increased so we upped the dose to      2mg at bedtime.  1mg at 7 am, 1mg at 10, 1mg at 1pm and 1mg at 4 pm about 2 weeks later.   

Nov 25 2017.    Having crossed over to valium a couple of weeks ago.

currently.   Valium,   7.5 mg morning,   10mg, around noon, and 10 mg  late afternoon evening.   

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Crying spells and weepiness out of nowhere are common withdrawal symptoms, as are unusually painful memories and regrets, see

 

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Dealing With Emotional Spirals

 

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direstraits
On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 1:55 PM, Altostrata said:

Crying spells and weepiness out of nowhere are common withdrawal symptoms, as are unusually painful memories and regrets, see 

 

Neuro-emotions 

 

Dealing With Emotional Spirals

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

thanks for this reminder,Alto.

 

I'm dealing with this right now and your post makes me feel a little better.

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.

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Ive had this prior to and after stopping Remeron. Was worse before. It would be mainly due to anxiety spikes, I then had the choice to bottle it up or go and cry somewhere. My crying spells only usually last for say 10-15 minutes, then i'll be all cried out and it subsides. The anxiety drops also. I suppose it could be recognised as our brains last resort for a bad spike in anxiety. Because theres always a build up for me.

Started Sertraline August 2017 - 1 day - Didn't tolerate
Switched to Mirtazapine 1 day later - Worked very well..?
Took Mirtazapine for 6 months:

15mg for 4 months 

7.5mg for 40 days 

3.7mg for 10 days 

2mg for 7 days 

(Smaller doses were inaccurate, breaking pills up into segments just by eye)
Tapered completely off Mirtazapine in April 2018. 

 

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Stormstrong

Topic title:  Weeping devastates the psyche?

 

Does anyone else experience this?

 

Crying is hard for me and is not spontaneous (I attribute this to Zoloft), but when it finally gushes forth, such as last night after watching a tragedy film, I'm in that mode for a day or two afterwards. I'm a crumpled, weeping mess, my insides - inflamed by utter devastation. It's like crying, in the first place, is bad for my "mental health".

 

Is this a neuro reaction? Doesn't seem organic to me

 

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2000: Paxil, low dose. 2001: Paxil, quickly tapered off. 2006: Zoloft, 25mg. 2007: Wellbutrin, low dose, discontinued after a week or a month. 2007-2009: Zoloft, increasing dose (up to 75mg). 2009-2011: Zoloft, failed withdrawal attempts (cold-turkey; fast tapering). 2009-2011: Trying out Cymbalta, Celexa, Prozac, Lexapro, Ambien, Ativan, and Xanax. 2012-2015: Zoloft, 100mg to 200mg. 2013: Trazadone for Zoloft-induced insomnia, 25mg to 50mg.  2015: Trileptal, dose?, withdrew; Bupropion, up to 200mg. 2016: Zoloft, 137mg, Bupropion, 150mg, Trazodone, 25mg.

05/21/16: Began Zoloft taper - 10% from 150mg - 137ish mg

06/23/16: Zoloft taper - 125mg

08/03/16: Bupropion XL taper - cut 150mg pill in crude half (mistake)

10/31: Zoloft successfully down to 100mg. Staying on 100mg for 2-3 months to let my brain rest.

11/09: Wellbutrin SR prescribed, 150mg once a day, for withdrawal.

12/11: Wellbutrin SR, twice daily - minus 18ishmg = 112.50mg

09/30/17: Off Wellbutrin SR successfully. Zoloft taper: 90ish mg (shaving it off). Trazodone: still at 50mg.

June 2018: Zoloft: 80ish (shaving off). Trazodone: 6mg. End of 2018: Off Trazodone.

01/20: Zoloft: 70ish?

08/20: Still around 80 or 70. Tapering by only 15 shaves each month.

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Topic title: Crying and then windows

 

I often see many people talk about getting severe emotions like deep crying or screaming and then symptoms let up and windows begin- (not all the time of course ) 

But for me when it feels like I can’t rake any more and I cry it out or scream it out , my windows usually follow - 

 

 

But I wonder if these emotions and responses are what signal auto receptors? Causing them to potentiate neurotransmission? Hence windows? 

 

 

 

 

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*Currently at 3.3mg off my 10mg pill of Paxil (they actually weigh 12.5mg) so I’m around 7.4 mg 

*No other supplements or vitamins 

*Taper schedule in the pdf 

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-5vShtJtwAOGA30OxIP87steLmMdFzD29F0fzAPD564

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@Vonnegutjunky, guuuurl, its like you're reading my mind. This very thing just happened to me 2 hours ago. I just posted on my thread about it. First, cortisol spike. Then crying spell, which resolved into a kind of "mini window." Symptoms not gone but greatly lessened. I've had plenty (seriously - plenty) of crying spells, and felt some sort of calm afterward, but never an abatement of symptoms like this. 

2016 - Zoloft 50 mg for klonopin w/d

Approx. Nov 2017 - successful taper of klonopin; Approx. Jan. 2018 - rapid taper Zoloft over 2 wks - no w/d symptoms; May 2018 - Reinstate 50 mg Zoloft per doctor; Aug 2018 - Rapid taper Zoloft over 3-4 weeks - no w/d symptoms for 1 mo.; Late Oct 2018 - pdoc rx'd 5mg lexapro -took for 1 wk; Early Nov 2018 - Reinstate 25 mg Zoloft; updose to 37.5 on Nov 28, 2018; Nov 30 2018 - returned to 25mg Zoloft upon mod. advice; Dec 9 - Dec10 2018 - 12.5mg zoloft liquid+12.5mg zoloft pill; Dec 11 2018 - 25mg zoloft all liquid; Feb 14 2019 - updosed to 26.25 mg liquid; Mar 6 2019 - updosed to 26.88 mg liquid - new symptoms; Mar 13 2019 - back down to 26.25 mg per mod suggestion

Dose Changes: Dec 2 2019 - 5% to 25mg; Jan 14 2020 - 10% to 22.5 (increase in sxs all month); Mar 10-15? 2020,  accidental updose to 25mg; Mar 22 2020 - back down to 22.5mg; Apr 12 2020 - 2.5% to 21.94mg; Apr 19 2020 - 2.5% to 21.375mg (symptom increase); May 17 2020 - 2.5% to 20.625mg; May 24 2020 - 2.5% to 20.1mg - Jun 14 2020 - noticed uptick in symptoms settled 2 days later - July 10 2020 - onset of wave

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i get a lot of crying spells -usually daily in the late afternoon for some reason. i'm in the middle of one now and i'm consumed by deep regret about many things from the past. 

i never get a window after crying but it's very interesting that other people do - cathartic crying is good! mine just seems to send me deeper into despair so i'm trying hard to distract myself and tell myself it's just withdrawals, not reality. i know there's no point regretting past events - they've been and gone and i don't have a tardis 😁

but bloody hell they come thick and fast on days like this 😬

Took prozac 40 mg for 20 years.

January 2017 started cutting down prozac by 12.5% a week. End of February 2017 completely off prozac and withdrawals began.

Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Magnesium citrate 200mg,Sage leaf 50mg daily

Amlodipine: October 2017 , discontinued 26 Feb 2019; Candesartan:  26 Feb 2019, 4mg.

Discontinued magnesium citrate 200mg Apr 3rd 2019

Reinstated prozac:  14 Jan 2019, 1mg; 26 Jan, 1.5mg; 4 Feb, 2mg; 16 Feb, 2.5mg; 2 Mar, 3mg; 5 Mar, 2.5mg, 23 Mar, 3 mg; 6 Apr, 3.5mg, 14 Apr 4mg, 23 Apr 5mg

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I'm having a lot of grieving and crying and sorrow at this time.  Twenty six years ago, my first son was born with Hirschsprung's disease, and he went through so much pain and suffering with that as a baby.  I loved him so, so much, and it killed me and broke my heart to see him go through all that.   Because I was so busy taking care of him. I didn't really get to fully work through the grief and pain.  Since he just had his birthday, all these old memories and emotions are coming up, and I'm crying a lot.  I'm sure the emotions are amplified by the AD WD, and the stress of the holidays, and a holiday seems to always bring on a wave.  I'm coping by allowing myself to cry, lots of prayer, listening to music, slowing down my pace of life, and reading a book about grief.  

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 02 - 10 mg; Jan 19 20  0.2 mg;  Apr 2  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13

Trazodone.  used 50 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, stopped

Xanax. used 0.5 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, stopped

Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, multivitamin, vit C, vit E, calcium

suppl PM: magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, Estroven, melatonin 3 mg, calcium

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Dear @getofflex--Thank you for sharing this.  It touches my heart deeply.  I hope the New Year brings healing, peace and happiness.  Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 

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19 hours ago, arbor said:

Dear @getofflex--Thank you for sharing this.  It touches my heart deeply.  I hope the New Year brings healing, peace and happiness.  Arbor

Thank you Arbor, I'm touched by your empathy.  Jennifer 

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 02 - 10 mg; Jan 19 20  0.2 mg;  Apr 2  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13

Trazodone.  used 50 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, stopped

Xanax. used 0.5 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, stopped

Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, multivitamin, vit C, vit E, calcium

suppl PM: magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, Estroven, melatonin 3 mg, calcium

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Interesting... As I understand, a lot of you are crying a lot during WD, but I have the opposite problem: I am unable to cry, and I have read that I am not the same...

 

My question is, for those who finished withdrawing process, if your ability to cry came back?

2009-2010: Asentra (50 mg)

2011: Cipralex (10 mg)

2009-2011: tried Zyprexa (5/2.5mg), Kventiax  (50/25mg) and Abilify (low dosage), but started refusing these drugs relatively quickly because of being zombie

2012-2016: Prozac (60 mg)

2016-2017: Alventa (75 mg)

2016: just tried Cymbalta and Ludiomil

2017-2019: Mirtazapine (30/45mg)

2012-2018: Wellbutrine (300 mg)

2014-2018: Lamotrigine (50/100/150 mg)

 

Supplements: B12 and D2

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