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On 10/27/2019 at 12:13 AM, SlaughterOfinnocents said:

Hellbutrin, at this point i think you have PAWS. I develop PAWS years ago and i share some of your symptoms despite i used a SSRI.

 

Did you have anhedonia before Bupropion? How you manage to sleep whit tinnitus at night? What you mean by no tolerance for coffee?

 

Im sorry that your brain didnt seem to tolerate Bupropion

 

Hi Slaughter,

 

I agree, although some of the symptoms that I have I haven't been able to find in anyone else on SA. Such as the spontaneous dislocation of both my TMJ joints around the same time that I developed double vision.

 

Did you have anhedonia before Bupropion? How you manage to sleep whit tinnitus at night? What you mean by no tolerance for coffee?

 

 

No, I actually started taking Wellbutrin when I was in graduate school for very minor anxiety (side note: At the time I was very ignorant about psych meds and their effect on the brain and I was interested in Wellbutrin because my doctor said it could help with weight loss, this idea was attractive to me in my 24 year old infinite wisdom, *eye roll). Prior to medication use I had never had any experiences related to DP/DR, anhedonia or depression at all. I took the medication for around a year and a half, not realizing what the medication was doing to me. I actually ended up C/T because I woke up one morning and both sides of my jaw were dislocated and I had double vision and I had been noticing that my emotions were blunted. And again, in my infinite wisdom, I C/T without consulting with my doctor because I had no idea of what the risks were. Two days later I was suicidal and couldn't get out of bed. Today, I have chronic short term memory loss, I've had double vision since before my C/T, I recently had TMJ arthroscopy surgery and it actually made my TMJ pain worse and now I also have even more limited joint mobility than I did presurgery, I still have constant depression/anxiety/Dp/Dr/anhedonia and fatigue. The only thing that has lessened slightly over the last 2.5 years is the insomnia. I'm now able to get around 5-6 hours of broken sleep per night. I've had a really hard time since my C/T. I developed some pretty severe PTSD and I was too terrified to reinstate totally once I realized the true impact of the medication I was taking when I C/T the first time, and by the time I found SA I was already tapering the medication incorrectly per my doctor's guidance. My main concern is the double vision, and Alto mentioned in a post before that my double vision situation is unusual, so that was particularly stressful. I've seen an optometrist, and two ophthalmologists, and I have an appointment to see a strabismus specialist and a neuro opthamologist in December. When I saw the first Opthamologist I was extremely distressed because his nurse told me she hadn't seen a case like mine in the 10 years that she had been working in the field. Typically, someone with double vision either has double vision in one eye (monocular) or double vision in both eyes (binocular), and the double vision should resolve when you cover either eye. But in my situation I have double vision in each eye separately, so they didn't have an explanation for it, and said that there is nothing structurally wrong with my eye. Like Alto said, these symptoms are unusual in relation to PAWS, so there might be some other underlying issue that I haven't been able to figure out yet. So far, I've been tested for PCOS, a pituitary tumor, multiple sclerosis, hyper/hypothyroidism, hormonal imbalances, and various other blood tests to test for autoimmune disease and according to the tests and MRIs, I'm healthy. I'm not giving up, but I'm running out of options for alternatives that might be contributing to my symptoms, and doctors really aren't any help. They all want to put me on more psych meds, and I know that in the long run I'd likely get stuck on them for the rest of my life because i don't think I could go through acute again. For a while I thought about trying another medication with a different mechanism of action like an SSRI, but from all of the stories I've read on this site I'd just be injuring myself further. 

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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On 11/8/2018 at 5:46 AM, Wellbutrinsucks said:

To me it seems like some of the symptoms I’ve experienced most other people haven’t, but maybe I just need to look further. But @Hellbutrin I completely understand what you’re going through. Wellbutrin sucks.

 

it also seems like you’ve developed health anxiety because of this. I can say I have too and sometimes it can be pretty severe, but know that you’re not alone in this, at all.

Hi Wellbutrin,

 

How are you doing? I'm still struggling with all my eye issues. Have you seen improvement?

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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Does anyone else get severe headaches with weather change? It's been between 30-50 degrees here for the last few weeks and I've had a migraine for three straight days. It's making my vision issues worse, and it's making me feel nauseous. 

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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Usually psych meds are well tolerable, is us that were unlucky. I dont like to sugarcoat things, but if you havent see progress in 2.5 years more likely are kinda permanent. When you have it, you have it.

 

I'm also saw a especialist for my tinnitus caused by ssri, the outside part of the ear is healthy, but he said that it may be due to inflamation somewhere inside my ear. 

 

Low glutamate in the brain are known to cause dp/dr, if you noticed some food/medicine trigger dp/dr, try to avoid it.

 

I'm sorry for you doble vision, psych meds could cause weird side effects. And a very common one is bad short term memory, wich is related to the hippocampus.

 

Ssris give me persistent sexual problems and homicidal/suicidal thoughs for this reason.

 

Ssris also cause apathy/amotivation/careless syndrome, despite the fact you no longer feel "depressed" wich is worst than depression, so i do not reccomend it.

 

I know you are frustrated, but for now, try to make peace whit it

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, SlaughterOfinnocents said:

Usually psych meds are well tolerable, is us that were unlucky. I dont like to sugarcoat things, but if you havent see progress in 2.5 years more likely are kinda permanent. When you have it, you have it.

 

I'm also saw a especialist for my tinnitus caused by ssri, the outside part of the ear is healthy, but he said that it may be due to inflamation somewhere inside my ear. 

 

Low glutamate in the brain are known to cause dp/dr, if you noticed some food/medicine trigger dp/dr, try to avoid it.

 

I'm sorry for you doble vision, psych meds could cause weird side effects. And a very common one is bad short term memory, wich is related to the hippocampus.

 

Ssris give me persistent sexual problems and homicidal/suicidal thoughs for this reason.

 

Ssris also cause apathy/amotivation/careless syndrome, despite the fact you no longer feel "depressed" wich is worst than depression, so i do not reccomend it.

 

I know you are frustrated, but for now, try to make peace whit it

 

 

 

Helloo...Excuse me?

How can you ever say that if you haven’t seen progress is most likely to be permanent? Are you even thinking before talking? People recovered after years and years, it depends individually.You mentioned a lot of forums banned you for “expressing your feelings”.If those feeling you express are similar to what you wrote here i’m not impressed by the fact that you were banned.It depends individually aswell, habits or thinking are very important.Please don’t use such frustrating words in here, Hellbutrin had progress and will heal, even if will take longer.

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6 minutes ago, SlaughterOfinnocents said:

Usually psych meds are well tolerable, is us that were unlucky. I dont like to sugarcoat things, but if you havent see progress in 2.5 years more likely are kinda permanent. When you have it, you have it.

What a complete and utter mindless paragragh! 

8 minutes ago, SlaughterOfinnocents said:

 

I'm also saw a especialist for my tinnitus caused by ssri, the outside part of the ear is healthy, but he said that it may be due to inflamation somewhere inside my ear. 

Wrong! due to vestibular system and hearing loss. 

 

You need to post facts. People are easily triggered in WD. 

 

 

May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg

 

March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths.

 

July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific.

 

August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline.

 

March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had.

 

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I been banned for open you eyes to the true.

Think of tardive dyskinesia, 50 years has passed and still theres no cure. And what the doctors say about about it? "Ops i'm sorry". So yeah, but this is not a place to discuss such things

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I'm sorry you are suffering so badly hellbutrin, but the idea of false hope is countraproductive, and it doesnt help in anything.

 

Please consider psychologycal support whit a professional that accepts the reality of your condition. We all need each other and we should work for a better future. We all here for you. Pls don't give up. 

 

1 hour ago, Leo1983 said:

I would ban you if i could. Theres nothing about your account that looks genuine to me. 

 

There are alot of facts about this world however you know no bodies future and what that holds. You know nothing about peoples histories or nothing. 

 

You are also stating the site is full of lies and all the many people who have healed. 

 

Thats all i have to say.

 

 

 

 

Ok boss

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6 hours ago, SlaughterOfinnocents said:

Usually psych meds are well tolerable, is us that were unlucky. I dont like to sugarcoat things, but if you havent see progress in 2.5 years more likely are kinda permanent. When you have it, you have it.

 

I'm also saw a especialist for my tinnitus caused by ssri, the outside part of the ear is healthy, but he said that it may be due to inflamation somewhere inside my ear. 

 

Low glutamate in the brain are known to cause dp/dr, if you noticed some food/medicine trigger dp/dr, try to avoid it.

 

I'm sorry for you doble vision, psych meds could cause weird side effects. And a very common one is bad short term memory, wich is related to the hippocampus.

 

Ssris give me persistent sexual problems and homicidal/suicidal thoughs for this reason.

 

Ssris also cause apathy/amotivation/careless syndrome, despite the fact you no longer feel "depressed" wich is worst than depression, so i do not reccomend it.

 

I know you are frustrated, but for now, try to make peace whit it

 

 

 

 

Please disregard this post, SlaughterOfinnocents doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

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4 hours ago, SlaughterOfinnocents said:

I'm sorry you are suffering so badly hellbutrin, but the idea of false hope is countraproductive, and it doesnt help in anything.

 

Please consider psychologycal support whit a professional that accepts the reality of your condition. We all need each other and we should work for a better future. We all here for you. Pls don't give up. 

 

Ok boss

 

Very inappropriate. Hellbutrin has seen improvement in her psychiatric drug-related symptoms and is dealing with other health issues now.

 

Generally, we see people recover very gradually from psychiatric drug-related symptoms. Pronouncements that such are permanent and people will never heal are incorrect and harmful.

 

@SlaughterOfinnocents you will need to change your style if you want to continue as a member here.

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Hello all,

 

It's been a while since I've posted on my thread. But I had a quick question, that I wasn't sure I'd be able to ask. I've continued to struggle with fatigue/memory/depression and sleep issues since my C/T in 2017. I recently started seeing a functional medicine doctor that ran blood tests and mentioned that my Vitamin D level is low. He recommended that I take a supplement, but I'm weary of taking any supplements that could potentially be activating. I've seen differing perspectives on SA about Vitamin D supplementation. Some people say it's activating and some say it promotes restful sleep. Obviously I would prefer not to take the trial and error approach, but I'm thinking that's the only way to see if I will benefit from supplementation. My main concern is sending myself into a wave if  I overdo it, so I'm thinking of starting with half of the lowest recommended dosage to see if I notice a difference. Can anyone tell me of any links on SA that talk more specifically about potential effects of different supplementation? I remember reading a compilation from the moderators on supplementation, but I couldn't find it again when I looked. 

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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The only way you're going to be able to find out if you can tolerate vitamin D3 is by taking a low dose and seeing what it does. I suggest you start with liquid vitamin D3 so you can titrate it.

 

Since you're paying a functional medicine doctor, you might have asked him.

 

Next time, use search in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum to find information about supplements.

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Can anyone tell me what causes the periods of dizziness in withdrawal? Is it caused by CNS trying to rebalance itself? Mine has been terrible for almost 2 months, I haven’t had dizziness like this since acute.

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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Can this dizziness be caused by anything else? Not eating regularly? Low blood sugar?  Not drinking enough water? Other lifestyle habits?

 

Please consult a medical doctor to rule out medical reasons for your sudden dizziness.

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20 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Can this dizziness be caused by anything else? Not eating regularly? Low blood sugar?  Not drinking enough water? Other lifestyle habits?

 

Please consult a medical doctor to rule out medical reasons for your sudden dizziness.

Hi Alto,

 

I don’t think it has another cause. I’ve had my A1C tested 3 times over the last year and it’s always come back within normal range. I purchased a blood pressure monitor and my BP is within normal range daily. I start every morning by drinking a 16 oz glass of water, and I try to drink at least 84 oz a day. I eat a whole food diet, and don’t deviate unless it is a special occasion. I’ve been dizzy since I started my withdrawal journey, but it seems to have worsened in the last few months. I have TMJ issues, but my surgeon said that there’s no chance that my balance issues could be impacted so significantly by my jaw or complications related to my inner ear from my jaw. I also notice that my dizziness is heightened further during periods of stress, so I feel like it must be related to withdrawal at least in part. I’m three years out from my C/T so I’m not sure if the dizziness could be caused by withdrawal this far out or if it likely has another cause 

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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3 hours ago, Hellbutrin said:

I have TMJ issues, but my surgeon said that there’s no chance that my balance issues could be impacted so significantly by my jaw or complications related to my inner ear from my jaw.

 

Please research your TMJ and jaw issues. If you've had surgery, that may be involved as well.

 

If your dizziness has anything to do with your going off Wellbutrin in August, 2017, all you can do is cope with it anyway. Seeing if there's another explanation for which there may be a medical remedy would be to your benefit.

 

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3 hours ago, ToGoodForYou said:

I think you have other issues going on instead of whitdrawal

 

??

 

Hi Hellbutrin, love your name. Wondering how you are doing over all these days.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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On 6/14/2020 at 1:36 AM, ToGoodForYou said:

I think you have other issues going on instead of whitdrawal

Why do you say that?

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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16 hours ago, Amira123 said:

Hello @Hellbutrin how are you doing now?

Not great. I keep getting feedback that my symptoms aren’t caused from withdrawal. But they all started happening right when I CT my medication. So that’s disheartening. Especially since I’ve had so much testing on my condition. 

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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Hellbutrin, the upshot of it is, we've given you all the advice we can. We can't help you here. Sorry.

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37 minutes ago, Hellbutrin said:

How did you sleep with the tinnitus? This is my newest symptom and it's driving me absolutely crazy.

 

I suggest you do a general internet search (ie not SA) using the term:  how to sleep with tinnitus

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15 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

  

 

I suggest you do a general internet search (ie not SA) using the term:  how to sleep with tinnitus

Does this symptom tent to stick around after withdrawal recovery or does it improve slowly over time for most people like everything else? 

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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We cannot predict your future. Lots of people have tinnitus unrelated to taking any drugs. Please consult Dr. Google. We do not provide general medical advice here.

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59 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Lots of people have tinnitus unrelated to taking any drugs. Please consult Dr. Google.

 

And there are other non-psychiatric drugs which cause tinnitus so if you are taking anything else I suggest that you research those.

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Hello,

 

It's been awhile since I've posted on this site because I was reprimanded from posting about my symptoms. But I'm really freaking out right now. I have had bilateral jaw dislocation for 4 years and I've been really struggling with pain lately. I haven't taken so much as an aspirin in four years for the pain because of my withdrawal symptoms, but lately the pain has become almost unbearable as I experience a constant burning in my inner ears. I spoke with my naturopathic doctor who is familiar with my situation with withdrawal and he suggested that I try CBD oil for the pain. I was EXTREMELY apprehensive and told him that I've had issues with taking supplements even three years into withdrawal. He told me that CBD oil has healing properties and could potentially be able to help me with my pain issues with my jaw. He made a suggestion for a high quality CBD oil and told me to start with 1 drop to see if it would help (a full serving is 15 drops/suggested for two servings a day). I got the CBD oil a few days ago and made the decision to try it last night. I slept GREAT, better than I have in three years. BUT I woke up this morning and I can't concentrate on anything and I can't remember anything. I'm so concerned that I might have reinjured myself. Will this reverse once the half life is over?! Or have I set myself back to the beginning. I'm desperate for reassurance. I've been researching it and can't find anyone else that has had an experience like mine especially from taking such a low dose. I feel so much brain fog that I feel literally mentally retarded. I couldn't even carry out a conversation with my mom this morning because I'm so out of it. 

 

I know I'm supposed to post my content on my own introduction thread but I'm so out of it I can't remember how to put it there. 

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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We've told you repeatedly we cannot respond to your general medical problems.

 

This is another one. You'll have to get over your CBD hangover. If you're concerned about it, please join a forum discussing uses of CBD oil.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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On 8/28/2020 at 11:53 AM, Hellbutrin said:

Hello,

 

It's been awhile since I've posted on this site because I was reprimanded from posting about my symptoms. But I'm really freaking out right now. I have had bilateral jaw dislocation for 4 years and I've been really struggling with pain lately. I haven't taken so much as an aspirin in four years for the pain because of my withdrawal symptoms, but lately the pain has become almost unbearable as I experience a constant burning in my inner ears. I spoke with my naturopathic doctor who is familiar with my situation with withdrawal and he suggested that I try CBD oil for the pain. I was EXTREMELY apprehensive and told him that I've had issues with taking supplements even three years into withdrawal. He told me that CBD oil has healing properties and could potentially be able to help me with my pain issues with my jaw. He made a suggestion for a high quality CBD oil and told me to start with 1 drop to see if it would help (a full serving is 15 drops/suggested for two servings a day). I got the CBD oil a few days ago and made the decision to try it last night. I slept GREAT, better than I have in three years. BUT I woke up this morning and I can't concentrate on anything and I can't remember anything. I'm so concerned that I might have reinjured myself. Will this reverse once the half life is over?! Or have I set myself back to the beginning. I'm desperate for reassurance. I've been researching it and can't find anyone else that has had an experience like mine especially from taking such a low dose. I feel so much brain fog that I feel literally mentally retarded. I couldn't even carry out a conversation with my mom this morning because I'm so out of it. 

 

I know I'm supposed to post my content on my own introduction thread but I'm so out of it I can't remember how to put it there. 

Hey hellburtin you are fine :) dont worry about it, it wont affect your withdrawal progress.

8 months zoloft medium-fast taper 25-75mg most was on 50mg(april 2017- march 2018), ?? months escetalopram mostly 10mg medium-fast taper(may 2018- oct/nov/dec[cannot remember] 2018), Drug free since

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When was it you had the bad reaction to surgery, @Hellbutrin?

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On 3/4/2021 at 7:36 PM, Altostrata said:

When was it you had the bad reaction to surgery, @Hellbutrin?

10-4-2018

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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On 3/4/2021 at 7:36 PM, Altostrata said:

When was it you had the bad reaction to surgery, @Hellbutrin?

I felt pretty “back to my normal” withdrawal a few weeks after the surgery. But lately I’ve been having periods of dementia like fog that are even longer than when I was in acute. Also, sorry if this is tmi, but my bowels seem to be dysfunctional for the last three months and I sometimes can’t go #2 for almost two weeks 

  1. Started Wellbutrin 75 mg IR the end of 2015.
  2. Tried quitting cold turkey in June 30th- July 3rd 2017.
  3. Had severe withdrawals.
  4. Was placed on Wellbutrin 100mg SR so I could taper without withdrawal.
  5. Stabilized on 100mg SR for most of the month of July.
  6. Started tapering on July 17th,  2017.
  7. Completed taper on August 8th, 2017.
  8. Currently experiencing severe withdrawal.
  • Symptoms- Currently experiencing anhedonia, depersonalization/derealization, concentration/memory issues, chronic congestion, chronic dry eyes, dry skin, dislocated TMJ joint from teeth grinding during C/T withdrawal, waves of depression, anxiety, nausea, morning cortisol spikes, insomnia, agitation, food sensitivities, no tolerance for caffeine and chronic fatigue, burning muscle pain in upper and lower back and occasional tinninitus.
  • Supplements- Omega-3 fish oil supplement twice daily, 100 mg of magnesium once daily. 
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On 6/16/2020 at 3:59 PM, Altostrata said:

Hellbutrin, the upshot of it is, we've given you all the advice we can. We can't help you here. Sorry.

 

Please don't tag me again. Please join other sites to discuss your general medical problems. Please stop blaming going off Wellbutrin in August, 2017 for all the health problems you have now. You have voluntarily had surgery and taken other drugs since then. We can't help you here.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hi there! I was wondering how you've been doing physically and cognitively? Hope you are approaching the finish line :)

Clomipramine: 50mg October-December 2016 

Vyvanse: 20mg on most days from December 2016-February 2017, 10mg on most days from February-December 2017, 5-10mg as needed afterward. Stopped Vyvanse April 2018.

Clonazepam: 0.25mg x3 February 2018-April 2018, 0.25mg x2 April-June 2018, 0.25mg x1 June-August 2018, tapered off 0.25mg over the course of 2 weeks.

Escitalopram: 10mg December 2016, 15mg January 2017, 20mg February-December 2017, 30mg January 2018, 40mg February-April; began taper end of April, 15mg mid-June 2018, rushed from 15-0mg from mid-June to late June 2018. Reinstated to 1mg August 2018, then 2mg then 5mg then 10mg over the course of 5 weeks. Decreased from 10mg to 8mg for 2 weeks, then from 8mg to 0mg when Vortioxetine was added. Reinstated within a few days to 2mg (in early November) and then dropped to 1mg in early December.

Vortioxetine: 5mg October-December 2018, tapered off over the course of 10 days after on it. 

December 7, December 2018 - June 22: Escitalopram 1mg.

Current: No psychoactive meds ever again.

 

Supplements: Mg2+ 600-800mg/day (most comes from HardyNutritionals DENs of which I take 12 capsules a day), 3000mg omega-3 oil, 1000mg vitamin C, tried 20+ other supplements before realizing that they are not effective for a destabilized central nervous system.

 

 

 

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On 7/3/2021 at 11:43 PM, BigPharmaStinks said:

Hi there! I was wondering how you've been doing physically and cognitively? Hope you are approaching the finish line :)

@Hellbutrin

Clomipramine: 50mg October-December 2016 

Vyvanse: 20mg on most days from December 2016-February 2017, 10mg on most days from February-December 2017, 5-10mg as needed afterward. Stopped Vyvanse April 2018.

Clonazepam: 0.25mg x3 February 2018-April 2018, 0.25mg x2 April-June 2018, 0.25mg x1 June-August 2018, tapered off 0.25mg over the course of 2 weeks.

Escitalopram: 10mg December 2016, 15mg January 2017, 20mg February-December 2017, 30mg January 2018, 40mg February-April; began taper end of April, 15mg mid-June 2018, rushed from 15-0mg from mid-June to late June 2018. Reinstated to 1mg August 2018, then 2mg then 5mg then 10mg over the course of 5 weeks. Decreased from 10mg to 8mg for 2 weeks, then from 8mg to 0mg when Vortioxetine was added. Reinstated within a few days to 2mg (in early November) and then dropped to 1mg in early December.

Vortioxetine: 5mg October-December 2018, tapered off over the course of 10 days after on it. 

December 7, December 2018 - June 22: Escitalopram 1mg.

Current: No psychoactive meds ever again.

 

Supplements: Mg2+ 600-800mg/day (most comes from HardyNutritionals DENs of which I take 12 capsules a day), 3000mg omega-3 oil, 1000mg vitamin C, tried 20+ other supplements before realizing that they are not effective for a destabilized central nervous system.

 

 

 

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On 3/15/2021 at 8:31 PM, Hellbutrin said:

I felt pretty “back to my normal” withdrawal a few weeks after the surgery. But lately I’ve been having periods of dementia like fog that are even longer than when I was in acute. Also, sorry if this is tmi, but my bowels seem to be dysfunctional for the last three months and I sometimes can’t go #2 for almost two weeks 

Hello! How r u now? I am dealing with similar issues 

2015 20mg lexapro 

2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 

2016 again  20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws

2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn

2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted  withdraws symptoms 

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