Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted June 23, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 23, 2018 18 hours ago, lalala said: 10am 15mg celena and last oxaz 10mg 3pm feel more anxious 10:30pm 7.5 zopiclone sleep 3-4 hours 4am woke up anxious 6am took inosital 8am propanol 10mg 9:30 10 celexa 12pm tried to nap and couldn't had high anxiety because of it 1pm took a quarter of k of 0.5 3pm tried sleeping couldn't got anxious frustrated 3 hours ago, lalala said: 9pm took k 0.5 10:30pm took 200mg magnesium +3mg melatonin 1pm woke up anxious AC was not working well had to put fans Was able to come down 6am cortisal but was able to come down 9am was up tired 10am crying was depressed 11:30 took 10mg Celexa Lalala, please be very consistent with taking your drugs. Why are you taking a benzo in the middle of the day and trying to sleep? Concerning your melatonin, 3 mg is likely way too much. Please see: Melatonin for sleep On 4/6/2011 at 9:26 PM, Altostrata said: Large doses of melatonin do NOT aid sleep -- they might cause your oversensitive brain to wake up, instead. I found when I took more than 2mg of melatonin, I was weepy in the morning. If you get this or a paradoxical reaction (waking) or are dopey in the morning, it's a sign you're taking too much. You said you were "crying was depressed" at 10 am - that could be from the high amount of melatonin. Here are some guidelines for using melatonin during withdrawal: On 4/6/2011 at 9:26 PM, Altostrata said: Start with .25mg-.50mg melatonin for 3-4 days. - Take at the same time, nightfall (but, given that it's summer, not later than 8 p.m.), every night. - If needed, gradually increase by .25mg for 3-4 days at a time. - Use the lowest effective dose. Please also work on non-drug methods to help you sleep. See: Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Tips to help sleep - so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia Link to comment
lalala Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Shep said: Lalala, please be very consistent with taking your drugs. Why are you taking a benzo in the middle of the day and trying to sleep? Concerning your melatonin, 3 mg is likely way too much. Please see: Melatonin for sleep You said you were "crying was depressed" at 10 am - that could be from the high amount of melatonin. Here are some guidelines for using melatonin during withdrawal: Please also work on non-drug methods to help you sleep. See: Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Tips to help sleep - so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia I have been very tried period days, plus dont sleep enough... I think the magnesium helped , thinking of taking 5mg of celexa as 10 gives me anxiety, palpitations Is it ok to take a quater of k and reduce it from night time dosage? I was crying because Im tired and also I didnt want to be alone... 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) On 6/23/2018 at 6:14 AM, Shep said: Lalala, please be very consistent with taking your drugs. Why are you taking a benzo in the middle of the day and trying to sleep? Concerning your melatonin, 3 mg is likely way too much. Please see: Melatonin for sleep You said you were "crying was depressed" at 10 am - that could be from the high amount of melatonin. Here are some guidelines for using melatonin during withdrawal: Please also work on non-drug methods to help you sleep. See: Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Tips to help sleep - so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia Waking with panic or anxiety this link doesnt open Edited June 30, 2018 by manymoretodays corrected link 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted June 23, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) Hi lalala, Try this one waking with panic or anxiety ........and thanks for letting us know. Love, peace, healing/inrecovery, and growth, mmt Edited June 30, 2018 by manymoretodays hyperlink added June 30 Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 24, 2018 Administrator Share Posted June 24, 2018 lalala, you can cut the Celexa from 10mg to 5mg, but you must keep notes about what happens. You MUST keep notes about the times of day you take your drugs and supplements, their dosages, and your significant symptoms day and night, such as when you go to sleep and when you wake up. You MUST take Celexa at the same time each day. You MUST keep notes about when you take the benzos. If you don't do this, we can't do much to help you. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lalala Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 20 hours ago, lalala said: 9pm took k 0.5 10:30pm took 200mg magnesium +3mg melatonin 1pm woke up anxious AC was not working well had to put fans Was able to come down 6am cortisal but was able to come down 9am was up tired 10am crying was depressed 11:30 took 10mg Celexa 12:30 palpitations 2pm took propranolol 10 3pm was not able to rest/sleep Afternoon had tingling sensations my body from Celexa, Weakness, 6pm feel very tired 8pm chest pain(tight chest) 10pm k 0.5 shaved very little of with nail file, took 200mg magnesium +melatonin 1.5 omega 3 l capsule 1am woke up with anxiety tried to sleep again was not able to. Keep having anxiety rush... Scared of taking klonopin. 4pm took 2cap. Inositol 500mg 5am cortisal rush I also think I'm not eating well may affect anxiety? 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Altostrata said: lalala, you can cut the Celexa from 10mg to 5mg, but you must keep notes about what happens. You MUST keep notes about the times of day you take your drugs and supplements, their dosages, and your significant symptoms day and night, such as when you go to sleep and when you wake up. You MUST take Celexa at the same time each day. You MUST keep notes about when you take the benzos. If you don't do this, we can't do much to help you. Just added more info 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 24, 2018 Administrator Share Posted June 24, 2018 Are you taking Celexa at night? What time? How do you sleep? If you get low blood sugar, this can cause anxiety surges. You must eat regularly. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lalala Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/22/2018 at 1:51 PM, Shep said: lalala, I've copied a few key posts from your benzo thread and placed them here for the antidepressant moderators. It seems like the the Celexa may be too high and since you've been at that dose for only 6 days, you may be able to go back to your original 5 mg. As I mentioned in your benzo thread, we really need a drug and symptoms journal to be able to help you. We need to see when you are taking benzos and z-drugs, as your doses have been skipping around quite a bit. Drug and Symptoms Journal Format Please post your journal here in this thread. 9am 5mg cel/ vitamin c/omega 3 / 10am crying feeling alone 10:30 Had black molasses with water then diarrhea 11:30 Feeling dizzy unbalance to dress 12pm still felt the tingling not so much 1pm blurry vision Also exhausted from sleeping only 3hrs last night, Able to almost fall asleep waiting in an office get home an difficult to sleep a bit. 5pm butterfly in my stomach personal reasons. 6pm ate 6:30 omega 3 7pm weaknesses (stress from thoughts) 8pm legs feel heavy tingling 9pm showered felt unbalanced again 9:15 100 magn 9:45pm headache 10pm k 0. 5 filed a bit of the pill 10:10 100 magn/3 mg melatonin 12am woke up 1-4am anxiety cortisal rush 5am had a snack Tried sleep couldn't 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 I take Celexa it in the morning, I took 5mg yesterday I think it was better But still bad sleep cortisol rush 9am 5mg cel/ vitamin c/omega 3 / 10am crying feeling alone 10:30 Had black molasses with water then diarrhea 11:30 Feeling dizzy unbalance to dress 12pm still felt the tingling not so much 1pm blurry vision Also exhausted from sleeping only 3hrs last night, Able to almost fall asleep waiting in an office get home an difficult to sleep a bit. 5pm butterfly in my stomach personal reasons. 6pm ate 6:30 omega 3 7pm weaknesses (stress from thoughts) 8pm legs feel heavy tingling 9pm showered felt unbalanced again 9:15 100 magn 9:45pm headache 10pm k 0. 5 filed a bit of the pill 10:10 100 magn/3 mg melatonin 12am woke up 1-4am anxiety cortisal rush 5am had a snack Tried sleep couldn't 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Altostrata said: Are you taking Celexa at night? What time? How do you sleep? If you get low blood sugar, this can cause anxiety surges. You must eat regularly. Is Phosphorylated helpful for morning awakings? 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted June 25, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 25, 2018 Adding something new into the mix at this time is only going to complicate things and make it very difficult for the mods to work out your best options. Google: survivingantidepressants.org phosphatidyl * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
lalala Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChessieCat said: Adding something new into the mix at this time is only going to complicate things and make it very difficult for the mods to work out your best options. Google: survivingantidepressants.org phosphatidyl Mods? Not functioning so well 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
bubbles Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Hello lalala Mods are moderators B 2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012 January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg 2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg, July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg) 2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly 10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly. May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week 29 August 2022 - first day of zero! My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/ Current: Armour Thyroid Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted June 25, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 25, 2018 6 hours ago, lalala said: 10:10 100 magn/3 mg melatonin 12am woke up Please see my earlier post here about this high dose of melatonin. 6 hours ago, lalala said: 10pm k 0. 5 filed a bit of the pill How much Klonopin are you taking? Filing off a bit of the pill is going to complicate things because you are varying the amount of the dose which is confusing to the nervous system. Also, you're filing an unknown amount off the Klonopin at the same time that you are reducing the Celexa, so you aren't going to know what symptom is being caused by what drug change. Please see: The rule of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable. Please only make one change at a time. Hopefully now that your Celexa is reduced, you'll have less symptoms, but this may take a few days/weeks for your nervous system to adjust. Link to comment
lalala Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Shep said: Please see my earlier post here about this high dose of melatonin. How much Klonopin are you taking? Filing off a bit of the pill is going to complicate things because you are varying the amount of the dose which is confusing to the nervous system. Also, you're filing an unknown amount off the Klonopin at the same time that you are reducing the Celexa, so you aren't going to know what symptom is being caused by what drug change. Please see: The rule of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable. Please only make one change at a time. Hopefully now that your Celexa is reduced, you'll have less symptoms, but this may take a few days/weeks for your nervous system to adjust. ok by then im still taking K and damaging my brain ; ( 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 25, 2018 Administrator Share Posted June 25, 2018 Do not worry about the Klonopin and your brain. Stick with the drugs at exactly the same time and dosages each day. We need to find out the effect of the Celexa reduction. Do you eat only once a day? Please let us know how you're doing now that you've reduced to 5mg Celexa. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lalala Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 OK , no I try to eat 3times a day but I didn't have an appetite until recently... M I went to a doc. He said Celexa is not good for me l needed a more Sedative AD... Because of my insomnia. Should I continue for now? I do sleep less than before... 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 9:00 5mg cel/ omega 3 /100 mag 10:00crying from lack of sleep 10:30 Feeling tired, tingling feeling in my stomach and breathing deeper... 11:30 Feeling palpitations 12pm feeling stomach discomfort 100 pm tingling in my head and dizzy 3:00 exhausted drug feeling 4:30 ate 5:00 crying with family member 6:00pm headache 8:30 crying 10 45 pm ate Dizzy in the shower, headache 11pm k 0.5/100 magn/omega 3 (sleep wasn't to bad ) 4:30am woke up 5:30 cortisol rush Stayed in bed trying to rest (worried about my life klonopin how will the taper go ) 8:00am diarrhea 9-10:30 trying to sleep couldn't 11:00 took 0.5 Celexa crying and stress 11:15 ate 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Altostrata said: Do not worry about the Klonopin and your brain. Stick with the drugs at exactly the same time and dosages each day. We need to find out the effect of the Celexa reduction. Do you eat only once a day? Please let us know how you're doing now that you've reduced to 5mg Celexa. I feel less anxiety which is good , but crying alot... I have a ton of issues and I'm alone 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 26, 2018 Administrator Share Posted June 26, 2018 Less anxiety is good. Be sure to take 5mg Celexa at the same time every day, and let us know how you're doing. When are you taking the benzo? We need this information. Withdrawal syndrome is very lonely, hardly anyone understands. To manage the emotional symptoms, see Neuro-emotions Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Deep emotional pain and crying spells, spontaneous weeping Dealing With Emotional Spirals This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lalala Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 47 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Less anxiety is good. Be sure to take 5mg Celexa at the same time every day, and let us know how you're doing. When are you taking the benzo? We need this information. Withdrawal syndrome is very lonely, hardly anyone understands. To manage the emotional symptoms, see Neuro-emotions Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Deep emotional pain and crying spells, spontaneous weeping Dealing With Emotional Spirals I take it between 10/11pm 0.5 klonopin 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 26, 2018 Administrator Share Posted June 26, 2018 Please keep daily notes on paper about your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages -- including the Klonopin or any other benzos. We need to find out if you're having any reactions to the benzo as well. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lalala Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Altostrata said: Please keep daily notes on paper about your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages -- including the Klonopin or any other benzos. We need to find out if you're having any reactions to the benzo as well. I have been sending it to Shep and you it just takes time to accumulate then I copy paste it... 9 hours ago, Altostrata said: Less anxiety is good. Be sure to take 5mg Celexa at the same time every day, and let us know how you're doing. When are you taking the benzo? We need this information. Withdrawal syndrome is very lonely, hardly anyone understands. To manage the emotional symptoms, see Neuro-emotions Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Deep emotional pain and crying spells, spontaneous weeping Dealing With Emotional Spirals Im not sure it's doing so much, makes me tired and agitates me at times... What is the plan, regarding taper? 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Yesterdays symptoms 11am took 5mg Celexa /100 mag /omega3 12:30 tingling in my stomach, tired feeling 1pm ate 3pm feeling weak tired 4:15 tired heavy feeling /blurry vision 5pm ate 5:30pm not feeling well / weak/tingling in my body/sleepy 6:30pm tried to rest/ as I was exhausted just closed my eyes 9:30showered was a bit dizzy, cryed 10:00 ate very little 10:15 k 0.5/200magn / 1.5 melatonin /vitamin c. 10:45 cryed Woke up a few times(because of heat) sleep seems better 4:30am still have cortisol rush twice But was able to control. 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 21 hours ago, lalala said: 9:00 5mg cel/ omega 3 /100 mag 10:00crying from lack of sleep 10:30 Feeling tired, tingling feeling in my stomach and breathing deeper... 11:30 Feeling palpitations 12pm feeling stomach discomfort 100 pm tingling in my head and dizzy 3:00 exhausted drug feeling 4:30 ate 5:00 crying with family member 6:00pm headache 8:30 crying 10 45 pm ate Dizzy in the shower, headache 11pm k 0.5/100 magn/omega 3 (sleep wasn't to bad ) 4:30am woke up 5:30 cortisol rush Stayed in bed trying to rest (worried about my life klonopin how will the taper go ) 8:00am diarrhea 9-10:30 trying to sleep couldn't 11:00 took 0.5 Celexa crying and stress 11:15 ate Continuation from yesterday 11am took 5mg Celexa /100 mag /omega3 12:30 tingling in my stomach, tired feeling 1pm ate 3pm feeling weak tired 4:15 tired heavy feeling /blurry vision 5pm ate 5:30pm not feeling well / weak/tingling in my body/sleepy 6:30pm tried to rest/ as I was exhausted just closed my eyes 9:30showered was a bit dizzy 10:00 ate very little 10:15 k 0.5/200magn / 1.5 melatonin /vitamin c. Woke up a few times(because of heat) sleep seems better 4:30am still have cortisol rush twice But was able to control. 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/25/2018 at 2:38 PM, Shep said: Please see my earlier post here about this high dose of melatonin. How much Klonopin are you taking? Filing off a bit of the pill is going to complicate things because you are varying the amount of the dose which is confusing to the nervous system. Also, you're filing an unknown amount off the Klonopin at the same time that you are reducing the Celexa, so you aren't going to know what symptom is being caused by what drug change. Please see: The rule of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable. Please only make one change at a time. Hopefully now that your Celexa is reduced, you'll have less symptoms, but this may take a few days/weeks for your nervous system to adjust. Want to add I took camomile Te... Hope it's ok 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 hours ago, lalala said: I have been sending it to Shep and you it just takes time to accumulate then I copy paste it... Im not sure it's doing so much, makes me tired and agitates me at times... What is the plan, regarding taper? I don't know how long I want to be in these drugs because I feel they just give me side effects... Celexa I know it takes time... I'm not very functional in the mornings and I'm worried I have to start working don't have alot of financial support 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 8:30 headache (woke up alot) 9 am ate 9:30 5mg cel/ Probiotic /omega 310am very tired shivery/blurry vision 11am ate very little 11:17 tired and weak 1:30pm Feeling depressed 2:30 ate cookies 4:00 feeling sleepy zzz 4:30 mag 100 5pm ate 6pm palpitations can't rest thinking a lot 7pm dye my hair/ less depressed 9am ate, 9:30 blurry vision, 200mag, omega 3, vit c, 1.5 melatonin, camomile te 10:15 k 0.5 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 27, 2018 Administrator Share Posted June 27, 2018 This looks like you're doing a bit better, lalala. 16 hours ago, lalala said: Im not sure it's doing so much, makes me tired and agitates me at times... What is the plan, regarding taper? What drug are you talking about? We need to get you stable before we talk about tapering. We need you to take the drugs at the same time each day and make notes about your symptoms. Then we can figure out how to taper. You just reduced the Celexa by 50%!! That cortisol rush at 4:30 a.m. may be reduced by keeping the bedroom very dark. Can you put blackout curtains and shades on the windows, and wear a sleep mask to block out the morning light? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lalala Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Hi yes I do use a mask in the morning... Im was told WD from klonopin is another set of wd symptoms and it makes me depressed it's like an never ending story.... I was talking about Celexa before a few days I still feel drugged at times too. I may be better... Than 10mg 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 28, 2018 Administrator Share Posted June 28, 2018 Please do not make any more changes, let us know how you're doing. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lalala Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 no i won't just feel like I ruined my life ... 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 3am woke up took mag 100/ 2 inositol 4:30 was on cellphone 8am diarrhea 9am Celexa 5mg 10:30 crying depressed 12pm blurry vision (out of it) 1:00 snack 2:30 vitamin c, omega 3, Probiotic Stomachache 3:17 bad anxiety alone, negative thinking 3:30 ate 4:30 propranolol 10mg 5pm had to take a quarter of klonopin 0.5 6pm breathing exercises 7 laying around 9pm ate well 10:15 klonopin 0.5, 200 mag, 1.5 melatonin, vitamin c On 6/28/2018 at 4:10 AM, Altostrata said: Please do not make any more changes, let us know how you're doing. I won't, 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
lalala Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, lalala said: 3am woke up took mag 100/ 2 inositol 4:30 was on cellphone 8am diarrhea 9am Celexa 5mg 10:30 crying depressed 12pm blurry vision (out of it) 1:00 snack 2:30 vitamin c, omega 3, Probiotic Stomachache 3:17 bad anxiety alone, negative thinking 3:30 ate 4:30 propranolol 10mg 5pm had to take a quarter of klonopin 0.5 6pm breathing exercises 7 laying around 9pm ate well 10:15 klonopin 0.5, 200 mag, 1.5 melatonin, vitamin c Do hormon changes affect anxiety like ovulation 2007-2016 citalopram 20mg -40mg tappered and discontinued all of oct 2016 6 month taper (wd symptom insomnia and some ocd anxiety) Nov.2016 -May 2017 cipralex 20mg June-Sept 2017 xanax 0.25- 0.50mg 3 times a week June 2017- Sept. 25.2017 Paxil 20mg - last week was 30mg bc of drug feeling reaction Sept 27 - Oct 12 2017 Fluxatine 20mg discontinuation Oct 13-18th 2017 withdrawal from paxil and fluxatine Reinstated Oct 19- 23 Fluxtine 10mg, Oct 24- 2 2017 Fluxatine 5mg, Nov 2-19 2017 Fluxatine 10mg Dec-Jan 4 2018 Fluxatine 20mg, Reinstated Feb 18 2018 fluxatine 1mg, didnt work June 6 Celexa 5mg than 10mg, June 3 Klonopin .5 - 1mg, june 11 oxazepam 5-10mg, zopiclone in june 7.5mg on and off, June 24 reduced to 5mg Celexa Nov. 20 2018 titration k 0.02mg reduction from 0.5- 0.380mg, Nov. 25 2018 mourol 1 dose for cystitis March started Brassmonkey method 0.30 k current 0.28 kcelexa 5mgNov.2021 0.08 updose 0.09 feb. 2022 0.085k march. 0.08 april 0.075k may0.070k june 0.065 june23 0.060 NOTE: using liquid Rivotril - 2 drops of (2.5mg) rivotril with 20ml water Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted June 29, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 29, 2018 Use google and search: survivingantidepressants.org hormones * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
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