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Altostrata

The reason is probably much more simple: He probably can't imagine how you would measure a fraction of a milligram. He doesn't know the 1 milliliter oral syringe exists.

 

Yep, they're that dumb.

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Yes he didn't think I could divide the 1mL. But when I see him on the 9th, I will tell him I can do water titration. He thinks its weird that I didn't eat one bite of food the entire two weeks when I C/T. Forty-five minutes after taking a piece of tablet, I ate something. He said " most people don't have a problem coming off Risperdal. I ain't most people, ha! I will insist for the third time. Maybe he will understand water titration.

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Altostrata

You don't need water titration. That means dilution with water. The solution is 1mg/mL. All you have to do is use the 1 milliliter oral syringe. You can measure out .01mg with it if you wish. Measuring .375mg will be easy.

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I have a 1ML syringe. I will take it to the Doc when I go. Thank you, I didn't even realize I had it. It's brand new, still in plastic. It was given to me when my brother was comatose and we were giving him liquid pain med. Thankfully, I had saved it! I'm so glad you reminded me.

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When I got the second bottle of liquid Morphine, I continued to use the first syringe. I'm SO excited to have discovered that I did still have this. I realize it would've been easy enough to obtain one, still it excites me just to look at this little syringe. I feel like I'll be armed when I show it to my doc. It's funny how something so small can make me so glad. YIPEE!!!

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I have a 1ML syringe. I will take it to the Doc when I go. Thank you, I didn't even realize I had it. It's brand new, still in plastic. It was given to me when my brother was comatose and we were giving him liquid pain med. Thankfully, I had saved it! I'm so glad you reminded me.

 

When I got the second bottle of liquid Morphine, I continued to use the first syringe. I'm SO excited to have discovered that I did still have this. I realize it would've been easy enough to obtain one, still it excites me just to look at this little syringe. I feel like I'll be armed when I show it to my doc. It's funny how something so small can make me so glad. YIPEE!!!

 

Great idea. Since you helped medicate your brother, you can assure him you know how to use it. He will have no reason other than orneriness not to give you the prescription for liquid Risperdal.

 

You can get more of those syringes at the pharmacy, or at a veterinarian.

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YES!!! I got 15mL of liquid Risperdal with two refills. My GP is hoping I will be weaned off by May when I go back in. I hope so too, but I will just have to listen to my body. I told him I have to go slow. Thank you all for supporting me.

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My last taper was January 22, I'm not ready to taper again just yet. I am just starting to sleep halfway decent, I still have somewhat of a low mood, I have ringing in ears and a little anxious.

 

I'm thinking I'll take a .25 tablet and .125 of liquid and gradually cut the liquid until I reach .25. If I have any tabs left I'll use them then. I have to start to feel good and then feel good for a little while before I'm ready to cut dosage again. My GP still thinks I'm odd for being so sensitive to DC drug. He will just have to work at my pace. He's been supportive thus far and I think he cares.

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I meant to say .175 of liquid ...my bad.

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Altostrata

Congratulations!

 

tezza, do you want to take .375mg total? That would be one .25mg tablet plus .125mg liquid.

 

It might be easier to take it all in liquid form. If you have 15mL Risperdal, you have enough for 40 doses of .375mg.

 

Or do you want to use up your tablets, too?

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Thank you Alto. Yea, I just figured I'd use the tablets and reserve the liquid, but I don't think my doc will give me a problem if I need another script for the liquid. Thanks for correcting me on that math, you are right.

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Altostrata

If you want to use a combo of tablets and liquid, no problem.

 

Look at the expiration date on the liquid. It probably lasts a couple of months? As you lower the dose, you'll be using less of it, too.

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Ok thanks for the advice. The liquid expires in Oct. I just think I have a phobia of running out of Risperdal period. Tomorrow will be three weeks since I tapered. I'm just not ready to taper again until I feel better than I do now. I have improved, but still have bad days. I'm just gonna have to get my GP to understand that. I cant let him rush me on this.

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Hi Tezza,

 

So happy that you were able to get the liquid form of your med. You are doing the right thing waiting until you feel good and stable before you taper again. Give yourself time and the doc will just have to deal with it in your time.

 

Karma

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Thank you Karma, I pray you are doing well today and every day.

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For the past three days, I've been having the same neuro-emotions I had at the beginning of he taper. I've had some decent days and nights in between, but it seems to take me so long to make another taper. I don't think I have it as bad as most of y'all and that's what makes me feel so lame. Will life ever be good again, I wonder. Why do I have to go SO SLOW? Will there really come a time that I'll be well? I like to hope so. ( I hate depression commercials, there's one on now. Does anyone else feel that way?) I hope to do better when I taper the liquid.

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I'm eating a little in the daytime now. I think that's a good sign. I've been able to go back to sleep many times until around six. I used to sleep till around nine and I long for that again. That morning sleep was the best. I'm sorry to be so gloomy. I would start to post, then delete before I finished. Then I just had to, I couldn't take it any longer.

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Well, I took the first dose of liquid Risperdal last night and boy did it taste awful (a price to pay, I suppose, I wont complain). As it turned out, when I picked it up at the pharmacy, it was a 30mL bottle, so I should have plenty.

 

I'm still having those 4am wakes after having a few teaser mornings when I was able to doze back off for an hour or two. Tinnitus was better for a couple of days (not consecutive ) but it's here today. I can see that I'm in for a long, hard ride. I sure hope the liquid makes for a smoother transition.

 

Hat's off to all of you guys that must go to work while going through this. I'm not sure I could handle it, I'd probably get fired.

 

Love, hugs and all that is good to each of you,

 

Tezza

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It's almost five weeks since I tapered a small amount. I'm still not near ready to taper again and am feeling hopeless.

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Hi Tezza,

 

I'm sorry you still aren't feeling well. I can relate ... I'm just coming up on a month at my current dose of Effexor and today is really the first day that my mood has really improved. I don't understand why it takes so long to get to a stable point, but we need to hang in there. It will get better - we have to believe that it will.

 

Karma

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Altostrata

tezza, don't worry. Taper at a rate you can handle. You'll succeed eventually.

 

How much Risperdal are you taking now?

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Thank you Karma, I thought I was the only one that has to wait so long with tiny decrements. I'm sorry you are having to go slow like me, though. It gets dispairing and I start thinking, " I'll never get off Risperdal! "! Thank you for giving me some hope. {{{HUGS}}} Without the peer support, I don't know if I'd make it. I lack self-confidence.

 

Tezza

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I really know how you feel, but I KNOW that I have felt joy through my journey and I hold on to that. If anyone has every gotten off of antidepressants and felt better then so can you.

 

Remember, we are reducing by small increments so that we have a better opportunity for success with fewer withdrawal symptoms - it is our choice. We wait as long as necessary so that we don't drive ourselves into unacceptable withdrawal symptoms. There is no prize for being the first one off of antidepressants, the only prize is safely getting off of them.

 

{{{HUGS}}} Karma

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Hi Alto, I'm still at .375mL. My last taper was Jan. 22. It was in pill form. A whole tablet weighs .207; I went down from .088 to .078, so only about .010 by weight. It seems like a small amount to be taking so long for me to adapt to. I'm taking the liquid now and it didn't seem to affect me any differently when I made the transition. At the rate I'm going I think it will take years to come off Risperdal.

 

I'm doing all I can force myself to do. I walk outdoors, try distracting myself with solitaire, call my neighbor occasionally, (he does all the talking, so that's an easy one) and any other way I can think of. The low mood just seems to cling to me. I have no motivation. I still have some ringing in the ears, but it's not as loud and not every day. It will skip a day here and there. Some muscle twitches, but not as bad as have been.

 

I wish I could reduce faster but know better. I'm just scared that I'll never be free from this. Oh, and also, sleep is not great.

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Would it hurt anything to put a couple of orange (unsweetened) Koolaid in Risperdal to make it more visible in the syringe? I wouldn't put enough to changel measurement to any significant degree.

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(Sorry), I meant to say grains of Koolaid.

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Karma, I know you are so right. I couldn't bear the consequences of going faster. Thank you both, Alto and Karma, for the encouragement. I really needed it. I just wish I could do 10% every two weeks but that's too aggressive for me. Even 5% would be too much, with only two weeks inbetween.

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Altostrata

tezza, ask a pharmacist if he or she can put some kind of coloring in the liquid. They know how to do this.

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Ok, thank you, Alto. I wasn't aware they could do that.:-)

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compsports

Hi Tezza,

 

Many hugs to you.

 

You're doing something very tough in getting off of an antipsychotic and all your feelings are understandable. But you will make it.

 

CS

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Thank you CS! And many HUGS to you, too. The support on this forum is the best! With the help of all you guys, I'm able to keep taking baby steps and not feel so bad about the slow progression.:-)

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I just long so badly to be the 'normal' that I was pre-meds. I'm sure we are all wishing for those days, so I'm not alone in that hope. I get so upset with myself sometimes for allowing myself to come to this. WHAT WAS I NOT THINKING?!?!? I knew better! I knew ADs were BAD for most people. Yet, a couple of weeks after the passing of my brother, I graciously accepted whatever I was given. Now, I'm so mad at myself.

 

I was angry at the pdoc at when I first realized I couldn't just stop taking the Risperdal, but the anger soon turned inward. No one forced me as some have been; therefore, it's my fault.

 

I'm sorry for the negativity, it just somehow helped a little to confess my own part in this. Blessings to each of you!

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Hi Tezza,

 

First of all, my belated condolences for the loss of your brother. <<Hugs>>

 

Secondly, I respectfully disagree that it is your fault. You were offered drugs at the earliest part of the grief cylce which is denial. There is no way you had the capability to make a fully informed decision.

 

That psychiatrist could have done the right thing and recognized you needed grief counseling but didn't. He/She is entirely responsible.

 

Perhaps I am being harsh but that is the way I see it.

 

CS

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Tezza,

 

You didn't know how difficult it would be to come off of Risperdal - no one told you, otherwise you might have made a different decision. You made the best decision you could make at the time based on the information you had available. Now, presented with the same situation you might make a different decision - you might not. The problem when we are in the throes of despair is that we need a solution. Please, please don't beat yourself up for deciding to take what was offered.

 

Karma

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Thank you CS and Karma {{{Hugs}}} I try not to blame myself but I'm just feeling low right now. While I've been in WD, I have terrible guilt complex. I think its neuro-emotion.

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Thank you CS and Karma {{{Hugs}}} I try not to blame myself but I'm just feeling low right now. While I've been in WD, I have terrible guilt complex. I think its neuro-emotion.

 

Hang in there. You will get through this.

 

Sometimes, I have found you have to take very little baby steps. Whatever it takes to get you through a day.

 

As an FYI, journaling helped me at times. Is that an option or not?

 

CS

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