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Meistersinger,

 

I know what it feels like to "walk on eggshells " . I've done that too, for most of my life. That started when I married at age 16. Its very disturbing and nerve wrecking to feel that way and have to live like that.

 

You must have a beautiful voice! I'd wondered if you were a Singer because of your screen name. I sing too but I don't have the talent I used to due to smoking for so many years. I'm still asked to sing at church from time to time. The last time was last Sunday and I couldn't get the tune ruggtand then couldn't remember the words either. It was so embarrassing that I dreaded going back to church. I went back though because it's just about the only place I can go (or can make myself go). That never had happened to me before. Church is the only place I feel loved in the least.

 

My brother is executor of my parent's will. He has yet to try to sell the place. He lives next door to it because my father gave him land when he started a family. My brother has nothing to do with me and I mean nothing. Oh well...

 

I do hope things get better for you. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

 

Sincerely,

T

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I hate to be so negative, but I'm SO tired. I haven't had the energy to post or read much lately. I feel like the docs actually killed the person I used to be. I feel totally useless, especially to my family. I'm feeling like I'm only a heavy burden to them.

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Hi Tezza...I went to the beginning of your post. My God, your doctor, like so many others cannot distinguish between drugs causing your symptoms, or drug interactions. You are very over-medicated.

 

In addition to that you have suffered personal losses which is very sad. That sadness/depression is so normal.

 

I don't know much about the meds you are taking. There are alot of folks here who do. Trust them.

 

What I am getting from your posts is a deep tiredness, and lack of interest or inability to do anything. It isn't you. You were over-medicated. I am over-medicated on just one drug - Celexa. Please don't add that to the mix as Alto pointed out to you.

 

Follow with withdrawal protocol outlined here for you by people who have done it. Post often. Let us know how you are feeling. We all value one another here.

 

Hang in there ;)

Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/

 

Paxil 1997-2004

Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available

at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries

Lexapro 40mgs

Lexapro taper (2years)

Imipramine

Imipramine and Celexa

Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each

45mgs. Serzone  50mgs. Imipramine

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Thank you for reading and posting, Nikki.

 

Yes, I'm trying to follow all the advice Alto and others have given. I realized much too late that I'd been grossly over medicated; however, I've been trying not to take more than one and a half lorcets per day ( for degenerative disk disease that I've had for over 25 yrs, so it's gotten much worse, progressively). I'm also taking only two each of Xanax and soma. I still take 30 mg of Remeron, down to about .345 of Risperdal, 300 mg Neurontin and down to 25 mg of Lamictal. I don't plan to try to lower the Lamictal any time soon, I just wanted to get it to 25mg. I do hope and pray to get off the Risperdal and Remeron as soon as possible.

 

I appreciate your concern and for you taking time to read my story. {{{HUGS}}}

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Oh... And I was on Celexa 40 mg before I went to pdoc. I'd gotten my GP to switch me to Wellbutrin while my brother was dying. You see, my brother started getting up during the night ( having delusions of grandeur) and tearing up the house. I needed something that I could stay awake with. Did anyone know there is a "process" in dying? I didn't until I read it in a book the Hospice nurse gave me so I'd know what to expect. I witnessed my brother go thru each step of the "process of dying". Lord, I pray none of you ever have to see it.

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Oh... And I was on Celexa 40 mg before I went to pdoc. I'd gotten my GP to switch me to Wellbutrin while my brother was dying. You see, my brother started getting up during the night ( having delusions of grandeur) and tearing up the house. I needed something that I could stay awake with. Did anyone know there is a "process" in dying? I didn't until I read it in a book the Hospice nurse gave me so I'd know what to expect. I witnessed my brother go thru each step of the "process of dying". Lord, I pray none of you ever have to see it.

 

Tezza

 

Is that the 5 stages of dying by Elizabeth Kubler-Ross?

 

Hang in there, Tezza - sending you healing energy and courage to work through this. Posted Image

 

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2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg; 12/17 - 75mg; 8/17 - 45 mg; 10/16 40 mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 ; 10/16 40mg;

1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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Thank you Karma,

 

I'm not sure where the Hospice group got their info but I Googled "the process of death or dying " and it was pretty much the same. It was a living nightmare, it was horrible. I sincerely pray none of you here ever witness it. Thank you for being such a caring person.

 

{{{HUGS}}

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Love you, Tezza. I'm sorry I havent been here for you.

{{{HUGS}}}

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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I love you,too, Barb! I hope you're feeling much better now. I've been doing the roller coaster thing. I am feeling some better since lowering the Risperdal. But while I was holding on it for so long, I made two drops in the Lamictal also. I'm not so afraid to continue tapering now that I see that it's possible to be less depressed while lowering the dosages.

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Excellent, tezza! What are the dosages you're taking now, of all your psych meds?

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I'm taking .5 Xanax twice during the day and 1 mg at bedtime / 1/2 soma twice in daytime and a whole at bedtime / .345 Risperdal at bedtime / 300mg neurontin at bedtime / 30mg remeron at bedtime and usually 1 and ahalf lorcet daily, and only occasionally 2 lorcets daily. Thank you for everything Alto. We are all truly blessed to have you.

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How much Lamictal are you taking?

 

I'm still in awe. It's a wonder you're not a zombie, tezza!

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I'm taking 25 mg of Lamictal in the AM. Sorry I left that out. I'm taking so many meds it's sometimes hard to remember all of them. I feel as though my brain is functioning on two out of six cylinders (if it was an automobile). I tapered the Lamictal twice to get to that dosage. The last Lamictal taper was May 2 and the last Risperdal taper was April 30. I'm sure they were too close together but something seemed to have helped. When I was tapering Risperdal alone, I seemed to really have a rough time.

 

I still get a little depressed but not as bad as it's been. I think most of it is situational now. The kids are rebellious, as is normal for a 20 yr old and a 17 yr old. They simply cannot understand the hell I'm going through. They act like I have in my power to change my emotional rollercoaster ride. At least my husband tries to be supportive.

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Tezza

 

You are doing so well! I think that Rhi may be on to something with the multiple drug tapers to keep the balance of the "stew." Keep us posted.

 

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2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg; 12/17 - 75mg; 8/17 - 45 mg; 10/16 40 mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 ; 10/16 40mg;

1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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Interesting.

 

You do sound a lot better, tezza.

 

Perhaps you can reduce the Neurontin a bit next, after stabilizing. It may be interacting with the pain medications.

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tezza what is lorcets? I have two herniated disks and have had Epidurals for the pain and it worked very well for me. Got a long run out of them.

 

Kids...I don't think they really start to mature until about 25. Tha't my brother's philosophy and I think he's right.

 

Have you asked them to read thru this site. It may help.

 

Hugs

Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/

 

Paxil 1997-2004

Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available

at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries

Lexapro 40mgs

Lexapro taper (2years)

Imipramine

Imipramine and Celexa

Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each

45mgs. Serzone  50mgs. Imipramine

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Hi Nikki, lorcets are opiates. I've been on them since 1998 when the pain in my lower back became intolerable. I had calcium spurs that were splintering off. Now I have the spurs splintering off in neck area. The bones in my lower back have now grown together (fused on their own). A spine specialist told me about five years ago that it was too late to do anything for my back. I didn't want surgery anyway. I'm afraid to try the epidurals BC I've heard some say they helped and some said they got worse.

 

The kids...yea they are just kids. I do wish they would read the info on here. I try to tell them that I'm doing the best I can. They just can't understand. I'm so sorry about your daughter. I was gonna post you earlier today on that but got sidetracked. You and she are in my prayers. I've always told my son that if suicide is in his mind to please wait at least a week BC things change. Then wait another week if he still thought about it. I don't know if that helps any but he's still here.

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Tezza,

You sound good!

That's very wise advice to your son about suicide, IMHO. That's such a delicate subject with no one best approach. I think that too often well-meaning people assume what motivates or is important to another person and that can do more harm. Just as hypothetical example, if someone assumed I had a good relationship with my family and appealed to how it would hurt my family if I wasn't here... Let's just say that wouldn't be a good approach. I saw this when a friend took her life several months ago. People were devastated that they weren't important enough or that she couldn't see that they 'needed' her (friends). I'm not explaining this well. The mis-assumptions of what matters to another person became very apparent.

Alto, please edit/move if inappropriate!

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Thank you, Barb. I do feel much better than I was. I do still get saddened, somewhat, if I hear or read about anything sad. I've always been very sensitive though, so it could be just me returning to my normal, sensitive self again. The Risperdal seemed to have flattened all my emotions; therefore, I'm thinking I'm getting back to normal in that way. I have a lot of compassion for anyone that's hurting in any way, always think how I'd feel if I was in their shoes.

 

I'm just now beginning to be able to watch the news and read the paper again. I could do neither when I was in severe WD because it made me way too depressed. Now, it makes me sad. I'm on the mend, finally. There's a difference in sadness and depression and docs need to learn that. I hope you're feeling better.

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"There's a difference between sadness and depression..." so true!

 

I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better. Offers hope!

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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It seems like I remember seeing a link somewhere on tapering neurontin, but have searched and can't find. It may have been in someone's thread. Also, I think it may have said that it can be mixed with water. If anyone can point me in that direction I would greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance.

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Neurontin (gabapentin)...possibly Rhi or Karma. Also, Schuyler is tapering Lyrica (pregabalin), which is related

I'll try to look for better info.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Hey Tezza. I haven't seen a specific link regarding Neurontin/gabapentin, but perhaps something in Karma or Rhi's Intros will offer some guidance. I recall someone saying that Neurontin is more "linear" or straightforward than other drugs, so possibly a bit less erratic.?

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1502-karma-tapering-effexor-gabapentin-and-xanax/page__fromsearch__1

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/221-rhiannons-intro/page__fromsearch__1

 

Schuyler may be able to offer some advice. Lyrica is related.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Is there a link with info on tapering Neurontin? I can't seem to find it. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Love and well wishes to all.

 

Hi Tezza, have you considered putting your psychotropics in a sig line.. really helpful, especially when you are tapering more than one med. The rule of thumb for Neurontin is the same as for other tapers, but from what I can gather, some folks can go faster. I'm not sure this would be the case for you, given the other meds you are on, but in any case, the protocol Alto worked out is the best I've seen.

 

That said, the issue here is more about a dual taper. One drug needs to take precedence, the other going very veryyyy slow. And of course, listening to your body.

As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule.

 

Requip - 3/16 ZERO  Total time on 25 years.

 

Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.

BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10)  Total time on 25 years.

 

Read my intro thread here, and check the about me section.  "No matter how cynical you get, it's almost impossible to keep up." Lily Tomlin

 

 

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Thank you Barb and Schuyler,

 

I did a check mark on enable sig and emoticans when I first joined but my mobile device (Phone) shows neither. Sorry, I do wish I could do both of those. Once on a while I use a device that belongs to someone else (first time just a few wks ago). That was the only time I was able to see the sig of others also. It was awesome to see what all I was missing on this forum. I saw the emoticons to the right, I saw the option to PM, etc. Maybe next time I use theirs, I'll have enough time to add the sig. I'm sorry I haven't done that, it wasn't because I didn't wanna. I was just so amazed that I just browsed around looking at what I'd been missing.

:( Thanks to all of y'all for understanding and being patient with me on this matter.

 

Love,

T

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Thank you Barb and Schuyler,

 

I did a check mark on enable sig and emoticans when I first joined but my mobile device (Phone) shows neither. Sorry, I do wish I could do both of those. Once on a while I use a device that belongs to someone else (first time just a few wks ago). That was the only time I was able to see the sig of others also. It was awesome to see what all I was missing on this forum. I saw the emoticons to the right, I saw the option to PM, etc. Maybe next time I use theirs, I'll have enough time to add the sig. I'm sorry I haven't done that, it wasn't because I didn't wanna. I was just so amazed that I just browsed around looking at what I'd been missing.

:( Thanks to all of y'all for understanding and being patient with me on this matter.

 

Love,

T

 

Hi and thanks tezza, I was only thinking it would enable folks to be more helpful, and I thank you for being so descriptive regarding your phone. I don't use any mobile devices (no cell phone!) so it's difficult for me to get the same perspective. Being patient.. . You are so open to tapering, and putting your best in, how to be otherwise would be the question. :D ~S

As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule.

 

Requip - 3/16 ZERO  Total time on 25 years.

 

Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.

BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10)  Total time on 25 years.

 

Read my intro thread here, and check the about me section.  "No matter how cynical you get, it's almost impossible to keep up." Lily Tomlin

 

 

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Well, I guess I seem pretty stupid asking for help on this site for neurontin tapering advice. I'm not sure but I'm now thinking it must be a Benzo since I found some ppl tapering it on benzobuddies. As soon as I stabilize a bit I intend to mix one with water and go from there. Still I didn't find a lot of info except that it can be mixed with water. I wish I knew how long it's good after it's mixed.

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Tezza,

You are not stupid! Neurontin is an anticonvulsant and does work with GABA, but I'm not certain how it works differently than benzos. It didnt occur to me that the benzo folks might be more in tune with it. You might want to start a separate thread asking about Neurontin/gabapentin tapering so it doesn't get lost here.

 

Hugs, my friend.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Neurontin isn't a benzo, like Lyrica it acts in a different way on GABA.

 

I don't believe either have the same difficulties benzo tapering does.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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