nz11 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Jorge just a gentle reminder its only one intro thread per person...dem da rules. Goodness I totally agree with Lexanger Please don't take that dreadful chemical. I would like to tell you that your doctor just gave you the equivalent of 109mg of Zoloft! Just look at Lex's drug sig and you will see what a massive project taking many years it is to get off this poison. In a worst case scenario in which you cant remain drug free then if I were you I would remain drug free or if that's not possible ri a small dose of Zoloft. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Yeah thanks both. Been 2 months drug free and will continue like that. Ama ride out this withdrawal journey. Like they say God and time. My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
LexAnger Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I can only say that you might have saved yourself from the most horrodous suffering you never can imagine by asking here before taking that 20 mg lexapro. Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, LexAnger said: I can only say that you might have saved yourself from the most horrodous suffering you never can imagine by asking here before taking that 20 mg lexapro. Yeah i might just flush them all in the toilet! So my doc was particularly lying to me that it would help my withdrawal symptoms but at truth it would of make thing's worse as you say. Thank you lex am already suffering enough from zoloft withdrawal i wount like to have to deal with lexapro thanks allot!! My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
LexAnger Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 It may help the wd sxs for a while but eventually you will have to deal with a lot issues. Or it may cause problems immediately. Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, LexAnger said: It may help the wd sxs for a while but eventually you will have to deal with a lot issues. Or it may cause problems immediately. Yeah defiently don't want that. One question is it normal by now that am still going trough withdrawal? My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted January 12, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2018 I wouldn't flush them, but I wouldn't take the either. I would really suggest a small reinstatement of 1 or 2mgai of the zoloft. Doing a small RI is the only method we know of to reduce the symptoms of a too fast taper. Here's out thread on the subject: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/ 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Has anyone feel disconnected from life during withdrawal? Going to 9 weeks off i dont wanna think this can last forever. I got 2 daughter's that i need keep going and see my recovery. Heard also that it takes 3 month's to recover for some, maybe that can be me since I was on the lowest dose 25 for only 2 months idk i like to think it out that way Thoughts welcome My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 I need someone to keep reminding me that ama be ok. I cant seen to focus in a dreamy state of mind 24/7. Think i have dp, dr which i never had. Can't believe am going trough hard withdrawal when i only took them for 2 month's! Can't enjoy nothing but to be on in bed 24/7. All this eventually goes away right ? My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Webhead21 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hope and help for your nerves is a book/audiobook that really helped with my anxiety, the audiobook mostly. I would check that out. Also, reading the success story was a great benefit my anxiety check those,too. Give yourself time to bound back. Eat well, and meditate if you can. YouTube,Alan Watts, his lectures back me a lot of comfort. Short Term Case: 7 pill of 10 mg of Modafinil in a 3 month span, but last 3 I took back to back causing severe withdrawals, lasting 3 weeks. Than 2 pills lexapro to help withdrawal lead to more withdrawal. I have most symptoms Pssd, emotional loss, cognitive issues, nerve damage in legs. Also 2 benzodiazepines. Not much to damage me long term... Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Webhead21 said: Hope and help for your nerves is a book/audiobook that really helped with my anxiety, the audiobook mostly. I would check that out. Also, reading the success story was a great benefit my anxiety check those,too. Give yourself time to bound back. Eat well, and meditate if you can. YouTube,Alan Watts, his lectures back me a lot of comfort. Thank you I will check those out. So r you fully recover now if you don't mind me asking? My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Webhead21 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 No, I’m getting there. Learning along the way. Short Term Case: 7 pill of 10 mg of Modafinil in a 3 month span, but last 3 I took back to back causing severe withdrawals, lasting 3 weeks. Than 2 pills lexapro to help withdrawal lead to more withdrawal. I have most symptoms Pssd, emotional loss, cognitive issues, nerve damage in legs. Also 2 benzodiazepines. Not much to damage me long term... Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 You will get there! Yeah your right we gots to learn through the journey. It's crazy did not expect this bad withdrawal of 2 months of zoloft My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Ok i just need some comfort from anyone. Has anyone been on a ssri for a short period of time and recover? I took zoloft for only 2 months. Going to 9 weeks but still having lots of videos dreams, during the day i feel mentally numb, alive but not living, dp dr. Am staring to question myself is this ever gonna go away? Is like am scared of life can even look at people in the eye for a minute. I can't even enjoy what i used to. Plz anyone out there 9 weeks still early in the withdrawal? My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Madeleine Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I was on Zoloft for a long time and am still tapering but I’ve been on this and other forums and it seems those who have been on for short time recover quite well. Just try not to worry. When you worry it ramps up your nervous system.. just float through any symptoms and have faith you will get better 200 Zoloft; 10 mg Zyprexa; 4 mg valium as of May 2021; Valium taper: July 16: 3.5 valium; July 30: 3 mg (paused valium taper); Aug. 23: 2.5 mg Zyprexa: July 26: 8.75 mg; Aug. 9: 7.5 mg; Aug. 30: 7.1 mg ------- Dec 1, 2016. 10 mg zyprexa for 1.5 month. Started taper mid-Jan. 2017. Cut 1.25 mg every 2 weeks; smaller cuts 2.5 mg down. Stopped at .6 mg. May 7, 2017: zyprexa free. Zoloft: Dec1, 2016, 200 mg. Started taper: Jun12, 2017: 197.5 mg; Jun19,:195 mg; July 2:185mg; July 9,:180 mg; July16,: 175; July 23: 170; July 30: 165; Aug6: 160; Aug13: 155; Aug. 20: 150; Aug.27: 146 mg; Sept3: 145 mg; Sept10:143 mg; Sept17:140 mg....Nov5: 122 mg...Dec3:112.5 mg; Jan14, 2018: 95 mg...Jan28: 90 mg; Feb21:80 mg; Mar11: 75 mg; May2:70 mg; May15: 68 mg; May28: 65 mg; Jun9: 62 mg;Jun25: 60 mg:July22: 55 mg; Aug25: 45 mg. Aug28: 50 mg...Oct 28: 38 mg; Dec.4: 30 mg; Jan8,2019: 25mg; Feb6: 23.5 mg; Apr1:17.5mg; May1:1 mg; May 5: 18; May 18:15mg; June 16:12.5mg; Sept 10:11 mg; Sept.16:10 mg; Oct. 1: 9mg; Nov. 27: 8mg; Dec.5: 7mg; Jan.1,2020, 6 mg; Feb1: 5 mg; May 1: 2.5 mg; Jn 1: 2 mg; Jy 1: 1.5 mg Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 How long on zoloft? So 10 weeks having all these symptoms normal? Right now i feel detach from my world like it feels am in a dream hard to explain you know. Maybe is dp, dr idk. Never felt this way. And thank you I believe we recover on our own time. My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Am super worry now. Did i mess up my brain by quitting my ssri zoloft to quick? I only took em for 2 months and I feel worry that wasent a good move to do idk. Will my brain heal from this? Only problem having now is dp dr. Feel most of the time that my mind is somewhere else and get real freak out. Feels like am in a dream can't connect with people and the world. Thoughs welcome anyone My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 I heard the recommend to stay on a ssri is to 6 to 12 months so i heard. I only took em for 2 months and my brain feels like it's been squish, causing me to feel mentally lost that i can't enjoy life feel so detach from the people around me, the world around me and it freaks me out. My question here is can my brain still recover from this? This sure is a livin hell. My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
NobodySpecial Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hi Jorge, I can only speak from my experience so please don't take anything I say as fact, but I do hope that you find some reassurance in them. When I started on Amitriptyline, I felt disconnected from the world and quite numb for the first few months. I started them for insomnia, and I remember catching up with my Dad and going to the cinema feeling so sad and disconnected. Have you stopped your medication yet? Taper commencing 14/06/18: Going down by 2.5mg per month from 35mg - once 2.5mg is bigger than the recommended 10%, I'll switch to a water solution. Planning to taper until October and then hold until 2019 - balancing study, work, life and holiday season. Medication / withdrawal history: Tapered July 2016 to October 2016, unsuccessful and reinstated to 30mg (didn't track specifics) Tapered March 2017 to August 2017, was unsuccessful and reinstated to 35mg (didn't track specifics). Current taper - started 1st January 2018 @ 32.5mg and 2.5mg per month until I reach a dose where 2.5 is > 10% of dose. Morning supplements: B complex, Niagen, COQ10, Black seed oil, Vitamin C, Zinc, Fish Oil, EGCG, Bosweilla Extract, Curcumin (Longvida), Vitamin D, R-ALA, NAC, Ashwagandha (occasionally), Epimedium / Icariin, Resveratol. Evening supplements: NatureCalm Magnesium, Glycine, Ashwagandha, Reishi, Schisandra, Melatonin. I also take Phenibut (maximum 3 times weekly at a dose that doesn't build tolerance) and Oleamide when required. Link to comment
NobodySpecial Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hey @Jorge24, This sort of thing is really scary to go through, especially when it's new and you don't really have a map or at least some idea of what's happening. Maybe it'd be worth reading through some stories about other Zoloft recoveries, so you can get an idea or sense of what's happening for you personally. Maybe it'd even be worth seeking some professional help, a kind and attuned psychologist, counsellor or therapist who can hold you while you get your bearings together. One thing that I can comment on, is that our social interaction is all mediated through a big nerve network called the vague nerve. When we withdraw, it can send our whole nervous system into panic and this can impinge on our capacity to socialise and make us feel like we're disconnected. If what you're experiencing is anything like my first failed withdrawal, then finding your bearings (with professional help or however else you feel you need it) is probably a good first move Taper commencing 14/06/18: Going down by 2.5mg per month from 35mg - once 2.5mg is bigger than the recommended 10%, I'll switch to a water solution. Planning to taper until October and then hold until 2019 - balancing study, work, life and holiday season. Medication / withdrawal history: Tapered July 2016 to October 2016, unsuccessful and reinstated to 30mg (didn't track specifics) Tapered March 2017 to August 2017, was unsuccessful and reinstated to 35mg (didn't track specifics). Current taper - started 1st January 2018 @ 32.5mg and 2.5mg per month until I reach a dose where 2.5 is > 10% of dose. Morning supplements: B complex, Niagen, COQ10, Black seed oil, Vitamin C, Zinc, Fish Oil, EGCG, Bosweilla Extract, Curcumin (Longvida), Vitamin D, R-ALA, NAC, Ashwagandha (occasionally), Epimedium / Icariin, Resveratol. Evening supplements: NatureCalm Magnesium, Glycine, Ashwagandha, Reishi, Schisandra, Melatonin. I also take Phenibut (maximum 3 times weekly at a dose that doesn't build tolerance) and Oleamide when required. Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Are you still on amitriptyline? Yeah its a scary feeling at least for me. Yeah i stop taking it, been off ten weeks. On Feb 7 will be 3 month's off My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Thank you for replying! Yeah defiently new to this when i came off Zoloft i did not know anything about withdrawal. I though it was gonna be so simple coming off especially when i only took em for 2 month's. I think am getting a bit better at it but not 100% recover from this. My only symptom tbh, besides vivid dreams. All this will go away right? You mention to see zoloft recover where exactly do i go and look into that? Yeah am keeping help by my local church. I go Tuesday, Fridays and Sunday's. My pastor keeps in touch with me. My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
nz11 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 4:00 PM, Jorge24 said: I heard the recommend to stay on a ssri is to 6 to 12 months so i heard. In my opinion the recommended stay on an ad should be zero days. Look these numbers are just pharma using a random generator. Its interesting they say that when their drug trials only went for 4-6 weeks. They have no idea whats going on from 6-12 months, none! And you know what they don't want to know either. They know perfectly well that by one months time you are dependant. Have you heard a doctor say it takes one month before it starts working. So keep taking your medication. Even if suffering adverse effects. Well that's pharma speak as well. These drugs start altering the brain from the normal state from the very first dose. So why one month then? ....Well at one month pharma knows that you will be now be dependant. And quite possibly set up to be a long term customer. With only two months exposure there is a very good chance you will heal faster than most. yes it could still take months it will get better with time. Try not to worry too much and just hang in there. You will make it. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, nz11 said: In my opinion the recommended stay on an ad should be zero days. Look these numbers are just pharma using a random generator. Its interesting they say that when their drug trials only went for 4-6 weeks. They have no idea whats going on from 6-12 months, none! And you know what they don't want to know either. They know perfectly well that by one months time you are dependant. Have you heard a doctor say it takes one month before it starts working. So keep taking your medication. Even if suffering adverse effects. Well that's pharma speak as well. These drugs start altering the brain from the normal state from the very first dose. So why one month then? ....Well at one month pharma knows that you will be now be dependant. And quite possibly set up to be a long term customer. With only two months exposure there is a very good chance you will heal faster than most. yes it could still take months it will get better with time. Try not to worry too much and just hang in there. You will make it. Thank so you much your message sounds so positive at times of Need! Yeah when i came off though it was gonna be so pretty and simple since i only took em for 2 month's but no. It's been the hardeat, scariest months of my life. Hopefully when i hit 3 month's ill start seeing some improvement. Thanks again you keep me me going and trust time and God i will get trough this My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
NobodySpecial Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hi @Jorge24, I'd just google success stories and surviving anti depressants to see what's here. I think there's a success stories sub forum here as well. I found it useful to give me a bit of a map for my recovery. I was off Amitriptyline last year but had to reinstate because I hadn't planned properly for how challenging it'd be. I think everything returns to normal and recovers eventually, but I couldn't give you a time frame as to how long that'd take. What was the original reason for taking Zoloft, if you don't mind me asking? Taper commencing 14/06/18: Going down by 2.5mg per month from 35mg - once 2.5mg is bigger than the recommended 10%, I'll switch to a water solution. Planning to taper until October and then hold until 2019 - balancing study, work, life and holiday season. Medication / withdrawal history: Tapered July 2016 to October 2016, unsuccessful and reinstated to 30mg (didn't track specifics) Tapered March 2017 to August 2017, was unsuccessful and reinstated to 35mg (didn't track specifics). Current taper - started 1st January 2018 @ 32.5mg and 2.5mg per month until I reach a dose where 2.5 is > 10% of dose. Morning supplements: B complex, Niagen, COQ10, Black seed oil, Vitamin C, Zinc, Fish Oil, EGCG, Bosweilla Extract, Curcumin (Longvida), Vitamin D, R-ALA, NAC, Ashwagandha (occasionally), Epimedium / Icariin, Resveratol. Evening supplements: NatureCalm Magnesium, Glycine, Ashwagandha, Reishi, Schisandra, Melatonin. I also take Phenibut (maximum 3 times weekly at a dose that doesn't build tolerance) and Oleamide when required. Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Thanks i will look into that. So are you off your medication today? Yeah gotta keep going, keep reminding myself ama recover from this. My reason was cuz i had a panic, anxiety attack. After that accident depression came at full furse that i needed something but at that time i did not know anything about these drugs, medicine if i would of knew i wount of take em. I would of gone the natural way but now am paying the price. But it's ok God with me you know. My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
NobodySpecial Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I'm currently in the first few months of a fresh taper, so I'm back on my medication for now I had something similar, but it was having several months of sleep related panic attacks and then my body got stuck in that panic mode. When you went on your medication, you made the best decision with what information you had at the time and you could never expect anymore! There's a lot of natural support out there for mood and anxiety. The supplements in my signature have been really beneficial for me. If you want more info, I can share some with you because it's something I'm quite passionate about. I'm glad you have support in your community and have a religious background to buoy you through these challenges. Menachem Mendel was a Rabbi who said that there's nothing more whole than a broken heart. This experience of hopelessness, fear of being broken forever and this struggle is actually a gift in that it allows you to touch the tender parts of your heart and eventually hold and care for others who are experiencing this too Taper commencing 14/06/18: Going down by 2.5mg per month from 35mg - once 2.5mg is bigger than the recommended 10%, I'll switch to a water solution. Planning to taper until October and then hold until 2019 - balancing study, work, life and holiday season. Medication / withdrawal history: Tapered July 2016 to October 2016, unsuccessful and reinstated to 30mg (didn't track specifics) Tapered March 2017 to August 2017, was unsuccessful and reinstated to 35mg (didn't track specifics). Current taper - started 1st January 2018 @ 32.5mg and 2.5mg per month until I reach a dose where 2.5 is > 10% of dose. Morning supplements: B complex, Niagen, COQ10, Black seed oil, Vitamin C, Zinc, Fish Oil, EGCG, Bosweilla Extract, Curcumin (Longvida), Vitamin D, R-ALA, NAC, Ashwagandha (occasionally), Epimedium / Icariin, Resveratol. Evening supplements: NatureCalm Magnesium, Glycine, Ashwagandha, Reishi, Schisandra, Melatonin. I also take Phenibut (maximum 3 times weekly at a dose that doesn't build tolerance) and Oleamide when required. Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 I wish you all the best with your taper ☺ Yes defiently share with me as we all here are to help. I remember when i used wanna be in bed all day, worry, cry call 911 all the time cuz i though i was gonna die it was bad. Now when i wake up i wanna get out the house you know kill time. So I guess am getting there day by day. Still fighting but with allot of hope. Thanks again for replying and being so positive! My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 Thought today was gonna be good but later today i started to feel confused, I feel like am a observer, can't connect to my own thoughs. Idk if withdrawl is introducing me dp, dr. Am all new to this stuff and it freaks me out some days r manageable but today was tough. Any supplements, foods oils for this? Think i have ask this a couple of times but these place is where i land in times of need. My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted January 30, 2018 Mentor Share Posted January 30, 2018 it will get better Jorge I don't know of any foods or supplements that will help, just time and good overall self care hang in there, ok PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content PRESENT DAYS: Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Thank you so much. Yeah been hanging here for almost 3 month's. Yesterday was pretty intense maybe was a wave like i say am all new to this. I just want my life back but knowing it gets better, just gotta hold on thight. My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Ok here i am again really really need some comfort. Has anyone else experience a feeling of not connecting with the world around where you feel like your alone in your own thoughts, dp dr. Has anyone else experience coming off there meds, ssri. Am freaking out this feeling won't go away. Folks round here tell me it does but this is causing me to loose the girl of my dreams she doesn't understand anything of this. Cant even explain my parents this kind of feeling. The only people I can is y'all on here and God. I cant believe all this is happening to me when i was only on zoloft for only 2 month's God. I see everyone living a normal life when am here in my room in the dark freaking out. My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
Pepita Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 have you tried breathing exercises and mindfulness meditation? I noticed that this helped me immensely, specially concerning depersonalization. Also my mother gave me an arome diffuser, various calming scents help me as well. 2005-2006: Cipralex 5 mg 2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg 2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late) Completely drug free since August 2015 Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Yes I have. I love the meditation music it relaxes me allot. How would you described deprsonalization, well are dealing with it right now or you did but not anymore? What is that where can i buy em? Thanks! My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
nz11 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Jorge have you considered making a submission to the Scottish govt. see my drug sig for details. nz11 Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Jorge24 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 What's that all about? My first antidepressant ever. Zoloft September 12, 2017. First 3, 4 days on 50 mg. My doctor lower my dose to 25 mg later that week. September 19. From September 19 till November 14 taking 25 mg. September 14 started to taper of 25 mg to half the pill. Did that for a week only September 14 is when i decided to quit completely. December 2 marks 18 days off Zoloft. Zyprexa for one week, November Ativan 1mg for one week, December Link to comment
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