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F14rx

14 years on Celexa : (citalopram) because of a misdiagnosis. Bunch of symptoms that i ended up with over the years : Irritable Bowel Syndrome, bad acid reflux / stomach problems, aura migraine, migraine,tinnitus,spasms, bladder leakage, sexual problems, etc.
A year ago I've discovered that most the physical and psychological diagnostics mentioned before were all due to the medication. I was a shocked and took me a year of therapy to defuse my anger and rage  It took me almost the same amount of time to convince one psychiatrist that i needed to withdrawal from the medication.  I have seen and read a lot about withdrawals but joined this forum to get the support needed when the time comes.

The psychiatrist i'm seeing says that no symptoms should appear, that everything will be ok - that he didn't see anything negative in his literature and with the hundreds of patients he got into withdrawals over the years.
He wants me to taper going from 20 mg to 15 , 10, 5 in 3-4 months . I said i would prefer going slowly by 10 %, he refused and said it was ridicule and i wouldn't even see no difference. 
I just hope everything will be ok.
 

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Altostrata

Welcome, F14rx.

 

You are wise to prepare yourself before tapering. Here are the relevant topics

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

Preparing to taper

 

How do you talk to a doctor about tapering and withdrawal?
 
What should I expect from my doctor about withdrawal symptoms?

 

Tips for tapering off Celexa (citalopram)

 

Please let us know how you're doing.

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nz11

Welcome F14

I just cant believe the number of new people joining today and the outrageous things told to them and the druggary done to them by doctors is heartbreaking.

 

On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 5:13 AM, F14rx said:

The psychiatrist i'm seeing says that no symptoms should appear, that everything will be ok - that he didn't see anything negative in his literature

Don't you believe it. He is not correct.

This is because the literature is hopelessly poisoned and side effects and withdrawal effects are not mentioned. I mean who would take a drug if they were told it would leave them sexually ruined for life once they got off it. That's if they can even get off it. A similar comment was made to me too. No mention of having to taper for years to get off the drug. Funny that. 

 

On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 5:13 AM, F14rx said:

I said i would prefer going slowly by 10 %, he refused and said it was ridicule and i wouldn't even see no difference. 

 

Sounds like its time to cut all ties with these people. You are very correct in what you need to do to back out from under the weight of this  drug. You don't need these clowns anymore. Their ignorance makes them very dangerous. 

 

Thanks for doing the drug sig. Be great if you could put the doses into the drug sig as well.. That would be helpful too. 

 

so glad you found sa....you have found for yourself a great little gift of guidance and help in a dark time.

nz11

 

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F14rx

Thanks to both of you  ; and nz11
Altostrata:  thanks for all the links , i will surely read all of this attentively
and update you once it starts.
nz11 :
Yes i have had enough of this psychiatrist, this is where i draw the line, just can't deal with those people anymore.
Never listening to the people who are taking the drugs. Only reading their pharmaceuticals financed scientific articles.
For one year he doubted about my symptoms making me feel like i was talking about ufo's . Discrediting every critical psychiatrists and tagging them
as dissidents.

The only thing he did agree about, was the link between SSRI's and sexual dysfunction,   but he goes on prescribing those pills again and again !?!

Their lack of empathy is overwhelming.

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manymoretodays

Hi F14rx,

 

What are your chances of finding another Doctor or prescriber?  Just concerned.......as it sounds like this one that you presently have, may continue with more of the same........belittling you and your ideas.

 

Could you add your present doses to your signature?

 

And welcome aboard survivingantidepressants. 

 

Love, peace, healing/inrecovery, and growth,

 

mmt

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F14rx

Hi manymoredays,
The doctor (psychiatrist) i'm seeing now was supposed to prepare his supervision and recommended protocols to my family doctor : gp.
Now it will be hard to convince my family doctor (gp) to listen to me instead of the doctor (psychiatrist) , who is he gonna trust ?  A patient or a specialist ?
Hope he's willing to listen to me. Otherwise it will be hard to get a prescription elsewhere.
Btw the psychiatrist challenged me to find one pharmacy that was willing to do a 10% slow taper.
Found one and they said no problem... Now just need the rx.

 

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F14rx

Hi All,

After a long period of going back and forth between the psychiatrist and my therapist, I'm finally going to have a meeting with my therapist to
start the withdrawal process of Celexa 20 mg which I've been taking for the last 14 years (misdiagnosis).
Although the psychiatrist doesn't agree with a slow tapering approach he will go ahead making the prescription that will be sent to my GP.
I insisted for a 10% slow taper approach on a 5-6 months period.
He stated through a memo that he left for me : ''this is ridiculous but i will do it if you insist ''... '' such a waste of time''.
He wanted to cut down by 5 mg every 3-4 weeks.
I don't know how its going to work out but I'm positive that at some point i will find my older self.
Anyone here that is either going through that process* or have went through it ?
Thanks
* celexa withdrawal of + 10 years

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manymoretodays

Hi F14rx,

Only one introduction and update per member.........so I moved your most recent post here.  So nice to see you back and ready to embark on this journey.

It's important to realize that a 10% taper is based on each previous dose taken..........so, 10% of your present 20mg. dose will be 18mg.  Then after 4-6 weeks or so, depending on how you are doing,  you would only decrease 1.8mg. from 18mg., which would be 16.2mg.  Do you follow?    So........this may wind up being a longer taper than just 5-6months. 

 

I'm going to  refer you now to the 2nd post in your introduction which has a  links around celexa tapering.  Take a look at those again please and let's continue to formulate a good plan for you.

I'm glad you checked in before doing too much more.

 

So your GP will be writing your prescriptions now for the Celexa?  And your psychiatrist will maintain you on the Clonazepam?  When do you take your medications now?  And what form and pill strength is your Celexa?

 

Love, peace, healing/inrecovery, and growth,

manymoretodays

 

 

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F14rx

Hi everyone,
If i'm writing its because i'm quite exhausted of not being able to make the jump to withdrawal from my Celexa 20 mg.
The thing is the psychiatrist / psycho-pharmacologist just won't hear me and say that nothing - yes nothing - might happen if he starts the tapering from 20mg to 15mg
He added that even if you chip or slice the pill , there's no guarantee that when you do that, that there's for ex: a 1mg in the piece you just cut off',
the pill is not homogeneous he said... And that's why that all the people who try to do that themselves are probably having a hard time cause they're not taking the good amount.
( I know , he's a tough nut to crack, he's a psycho-pharmacologist on top).
He wants to reduces the amount by 5mg every month and there's no pharmacy here that will reduced the prescription by 10% , they just won't do it (hey what's the point ?).
Actually there's one in Ontario but he won't sign cause he's holding on to his point.
I know some people will suggest to change doctor but that's just impossible.
I'm lucky that i don't have to pay to see a doctor where I'm from so i would have to wait for a half a year , a year maybe to see another specialist.
That being said, i just wanted to know what lies ahead for me. I'm prepared for anything ( doesnt mean i'm happy about it).
Brain zaps, nausea, headaches, flu like symptoms etc.
It seem's to be like the Russian roulette (slow or fast metabolizer, enzymes, etc)

15 years on that crap for a misdiagnosis and just can't get off. It's like i sold my soul to the devil.
I'm so tired of all that, just want to move on.
Thnx

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Altostrata

Hello, F14. I moved your post here to your Intro topic.

 

Very few people here have found a doctor to be helpful in tapering.

 

You don't have to do it his way, you can make your own liquid from a tablet, see Tips for tapering off Celexa (citalopram)

 

As far as what you would tell him, read these again

 

How do you talk to a doctor about tapering and withdrawal?
 
What should I expect from my doctor about withdrawal symptoms?

 

Of course, if he or another doctor would prescribe liquid citalopram for you, that would be easier for you. Any doctor can prescribe these drugs, it doesn't have to be a psychiatrist. Would your GP be more helpful?

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F14rx

Hi Altostrata,
Yes i would need a new prescription to do that, and my GP is never gonna prescribe this, he's quite aware of the situation and feels incompetent as to taking steps
with those kinds of medications. That's a major problem getting a new prescription. I feel trapped with this psychiatrist, and my psychologist is on his side so...
 

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Songbird

If you cannot get a doctor to agree to a slow taper, you could perhaps tell your GP you want to stay on it for a while longer, so that you can keep getting prescriptions from him.  Then make your own doses from the tablets by one of the tapering methods described here.  The deception is not an ideal situation, but some people have had to resort to it in order to be able to taper safely.  Your health is more important than this psychiatrist's ego.

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Altostrata

Yes, if you cannot get prescriptions from anyone else but this psychiatrist, you might stop talking about tapering and report you're doing fine on the dose you're taking.

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