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That‚Äôs so wonderful to hear Rosettaūüíö

Been on antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressants and painkillers for chronic pain. 

Have been cold turkeyed and put on and off all sorts of things.  Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward because I had akathisia from withdrawals. I can’t remember what I was put on but when I was released was in the same predicament with severe akathisia n was suicidal again.

Back to the psych ward and I was given a number of different drugs while there. Tapered off one when I got home n have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. It’s been years, tapering slowly but still having severe withdrawals.

I’ve  tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./ March 10th 2019=7.25mg / 17th of April 2019= 7mg / June 5th=6.75mg/ July 14th=6.50mg/ 28th of August=6.25mg/ 10th of Oct= 6.20mg/ 21st October 6mg/ 16th of December 5.80mg/21st of January 5.60mg/

 

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

 

 

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Thanks, @Sheera.  Thank you, @bubbles.   I forgot to note that something physical has changed, and it’s a big deal.  Last Fall, in August, I tried to wear contact lenses again.  I had given

@Amira123 Oh, yes, all of that!  It all slowly lessened over time.  There were windows when I felt relief from those symptoms.  Then, they would come back and go away again.  At times, I had bad waves

I wrote something similar to this to another member, and I thought I would post it here before I sign off:   It WILL get better.  I am SO MUCH better!  Sometimes I think I should pinch mysel

July 5th was a little worse.  I developed some muscle tension/ aka in my jaw after visiting with a friend who wanted to talk politics.  I wish I had said that I didn't want to think about that subject.  I'm not sure that the tension was caused by the conversation though.  I felt a bit more anxious yesterday.  

 

I was awake in the night for a couple of hours with dystonia, and then I woke up without it.  The tension in my jaw is still there.

 

This morning I'm more anxious than I was yesterday, but it's bearable.  Last day of camp for the little one. Pretty nervous about the next week with no camp, but I'm hoping we will have some fun if I don't go into a deep wave.  Please, please, please!!!

 

Onward.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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1 hour ago, Rosetta said:

but I'm hoping we will have some fun

Hi Rosetta,

I can't talk with anyone who is too intense whether it is politics or family issues.  I tend to isolate, so I have to be careful not to find reasons to stay alone ruminating.  I soak up other people's feelings and anxiety like nobody's business, so I try to hang with positive people as much as I can.  I feel like I'm always on emotional overload, so I avoid conversations that upset me.  I react to television pretty much like others have described here, especially pharma commercials, news and political talking heads.  I used to watch mainly drama, but now I watch a lot of comedy, game shows and history on tv.

I hope you have a nice time with your daughter on summer vacay.  My grandchildren are very good distractors for me.

xo RM

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@Rosetta Just saw your post for the 4th and today. Glad you were able to get in a family celebration for the 4th and that the wave has lifted. Saw that you had a rougher day yesterday. I started a wave last Wednesday. I had a little window on the 4th and yesterday and today, poopy. 

 

You mention the jaw tension. I have that too. When it gets bad, it actually creates a feeling of fullness in my ears. I know it is tension related. Came on when this journey started so I know it will go away with it. 

 

I see that you will be 17 months free in a couple of weeks. That is wonderful! The further along you get the more and longer windows you get. Well, from what I read from the success stories. Has that been happening for you? 

 

This is a tough journey. For you to have to do it with little ones is really amazing. You have great strength and I admire that. You are setting a great example as a mom on how to overcome. Sending big hugs to you. 

 

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

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EdinburghGuy

Keep fighting, thanks for keeping me alive

- 40mg 10 years on prozac, tappered down 2 months.

5 months later huge panic, cant sleep. pssd also.

- 27/04/2018 April 27th 2018 (approx) -  reinstated Prozac 20mg again

Early May 2018 Took 1 Venlafaxine tab and benzos for a week. zopiclone 2 weeks.

Symptoms improved, pssd healed but not normal, not well

- Mid May 2018 - took one Sertraline tab, stopped after fear, reaction etc.

- Currently 20mg Prozac morning

 

Vits - fish oil, magnesium, vit c but currently stopped.

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Hi Rosetta...I still think you are doing so well! ¬†I think of all that you DID do these past days...I mean the miles of walks and the fair and the 4th etc! ¬†I still say WOW in my head. ¬†Your body is asking for a bit of a rest perhaps....hoping things stay manageable!!! ¬†HUGS!!!ūüíú

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jonnypeters1234567

You really are doing fantastic Rosetta, they way you are managing is inspirational

2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems

 

Sertaline 2010- 6monnths

 

2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT

 

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@jonnypeters1234567 and @EdinburghGuy Thanks.  I hope it gives you the hope that you need.  Everyone heals.

 

@mirage Yes, the Windows get longer.  Mine have been very short, but frequent.  I call it yo-yoing.  I don't think I've had a window that was longer than a couple of days until this past window that is lasting and lasting.  For some people that's the way it goes.  Others have longer Windows than mine have been all along the journey.  

 

@RealMe The children certainly make this challenging, but they make us see what's important, too.

 

@Rabe Thank you, honey!

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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jonnypeters1234567

I hope you avoid a wave and enjoy your week with your daughter Rosetta

2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems

 

Sertaline 2010- 6monnths

 

2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT

 

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@Rosetta Thank you! It is reassuring to hear you are having more windows and you are having a pretty good long one. I haven't had a window that has been free of symptoms but I have had easier days. This wave is a rough one with the dizziness. On the other hand, my sleep is better. Hmm...I know that is all healing taking place. You are such a great example to your children and to all of us here.

 

Hugs and prayers. 

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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@Rosetta A quick question. Prior to your current windows, how were the ones you had around the 1 year mark? I am at 13 months and I have not had a window, free of symptoms. I've had what I think are windows. Minutes/hours that were easier and my symptoms were less extreme. Waiting for that true, good window. 

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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@mirage. Hi.  If you go back to page 7 of my thread you will see February 2018.  I was having a hard time.  I was determined to not miss my daughter's life.  So, I was doing as much as I could to get to events and volunteer in her classroom.  My emotions were all over the place.  I cried a lot.  I was depressed and anxious.  It was Winter, of course.  My windows were very short and waves were long.  That pattern continued until month 16, but the intensity of the symptoms became gradually less severe.

 

There are some symptoms that were very problematic such as lack of appetite and dystonia which have improved at lot since the 1 year point.  The anxiety and cortisol spikes did not improve much, but they would change in intensity.  It's really only in the last two weeks that those problems have improved.  

 

Windows are not free of symptoms, but they are markedly different from the rest of the time.  They are obvious only after the fact at first.  Then, later I think as one learns what they feel like, it's possible to know when they are happening.  (It may be different for taperers who were stable when they started tapering.  I practically CT'd and did not reinstate.  Taperers seem to know when they are in Windows.  They expect waves after they drop the dose and some even know how long after the dose the wave is likely to start.)

 

Mirage, I honestly don't know how many of my issues are caused by my hormones or whether this journey would have been the same even without the PMS.  Being perimenopausal may be a big part of the intensity of my WD.  While in WD all things are amplified. I have been feeling better since my period took a break that's for sure.  Back in Feb one of the Moderators remarked that he saw positive changes occurring, but I felt awful most of the time.  It does not appear that women have a harder time with WD and yet we are able to trace some of our waves to our cycles.  

 

Dehydration on is a major issue.  We are not able to take care of ourselves well while in WD.  I believe a lot of our symptoms could be improved by drinking a lot of water and also keeping protein in our diets.  I try to have protein at least twice a day.  When I'm having cortisol spikes I find that eating cheese sticks in the middle of the night helps.

 

I hope you feel better soon! - Rosetta

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Journal:

 

The muscle tension in my jaw and neck -- on both sides -- seems to have replaced the dystonia on my right side.  It happens while I sleep and while I read and type -- just like the dystonia.  This happened last night and the night before.  It's a change, but of course I don't like it. It's a miserable way to sleep.  I'm drinking a lot of water to avoid dehydration, and I wake up a lot in the night.  Sleep is not good or very deep.

 

My days are not bad though unless I read and then my neck, jaw, cheeks, and even my eyes and forehead ache.  I don't see anyone else having this reaction to reading, but it's probably similar to the "head pressure" others complain about.  I suppose someday this problem will stop.  

 

Friday, I missed my walk because we had see my husband's cousin while he was in town.  He wanted to have breakfast with us.  It wasn't a very positive experience because there was a misunderstanding.  I was pretty frustrated to have missed my walk for that.  Then, we picked up my daughter from her last day of camp and went to dinner.  My appetite is better than it used to be, but it's still pretty rare that I enjoy eating as opposed to doing it because I have to.

 

Yesterday, my daughter's friend came to play and his grandmother stayed while my husband and I went for a walk at the beach.  Then, in the afternoon, my friend and her husband brought her family over to play.  I had to take breaks from the chaos of two boys, 4 and 6, a girl who is 8 and my 7 year old all being kids together.  It was stressful.  It was also very hot outside, but I managed to handle it.  This is a huge milestone for me.  We haven't invited anyone over in over a year.  I don't want to do it again soon, but I managed ok with the help of my husband.

 

Last night, I had another night of muscle tension, but I was able to go back to sleep several times this morning.  I had to keep breathing and monitoring my breath in order to fall back asleep.  I didn't get up until after 9:00 am! All through the night I kept drinking water and going to the bathroom in the hopes that avoiding dehydration would help me have a better day.  It was 105 here on Friday and about 100 yesterday.  Today is 99.  I'm stuck inside.  That usually means I have a bad day, but I'm hoping to go to the beach later in the day.  It's 85 there at 2:00 pm.

 

I have not had much anxiety today.  

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Rosetta Thank you dear friend for contacting me and for shedding a lot of light on things for me. You are truly kind! 

 

I am for sure having more, long waves and short windows here and there. You are so right when you say you don't notice the windows until after they happen. I never recognize them as windows because I still always have some symptoms. It is when another wave comes that I think, "oh, I had a window". Also, they are very short lived. Maybe just an hour or two here and there. 

 

My worst symptoms are, head and jaw tension/pain, dizziness and anxiety. 

 

I can push through most days. A few month ago, no way. In fact, a few months ago I would not commit to anything. I would tell people I had to play everything day to day and there were many times I had to cancel doing things at the last minute. Now, I can stay committed and plug along. 

 

I agree with what you are saying about pms and hormones. I completed menopause last year. I know that based on blood work that was taken 2 years ago and then again in March of 2017. I could see I was menopausal in 2015 but was still making estrogen. In my March 2017 labs, my numbers for estrogen, progesterone and testosterone were all tanked. Thus, the completion of being a young lady. lol. That is why I stopped my med cold turkey. I was put on it by my obgyn for pms and since I no longer had any, I thought I no longer need the med. She never told me I needed to wean off. I don't blame her. I think the advice she gave me  was based on the knowledge she had. I also think most people don't get this extreme withdrawal. It is the lucky, smaller percent of us that do. I found out, a few months ago, through some genetic testing one of drs did, that I am a very slow metabolizer of these meds. That said, I wonder if there is any connection with that, to those of us who suffer so, compared to others who can successfully come off of them with no problems? 

 

Going back to hormones, I am getting bio-identical hormone replacement through pellets. I have a gyn here that specializes in menopause and she is remarkable! I get them every 3 and a half months and I do think they are helping me with this recovery. At least I am staying balanced with that. 

 

I agree with you on staying hydrated and eating protein. I too, am doing both. I was not a big protein eater prior to this journey. Mostly ate veggies and salads. I never ever ate red meat. Well, that has changed. Each and every day, I do eat the same things. I do a good, healthy protein shake every morning for breakfast, followed by a boiled egg a couple of hours later and for lunch, I do whole, organic, no salt no sugar peanut butter on chia seed bread and a banana and for an afternoon snack, I eat cheese and fresh berries. For dinner, I go with what ever we decide to make or go out and get. I lost a lot of weight during this journey. I was very small to begin with 116lbs. I got down to 104. I could barely sip water. I am back to my normal weight and able to maintain it. Like you, I eat because I know it is important but i'm not there yet on craving anything or loving our long dinners out that we use to have. My family will ask what I feel like eating and there is never anything I particularly want. But, I can eat now. 

 

It is nice that you live by the ocean. How therapeutic. I would love that. I live in a big park so I take my walks there with my dogs. Not quite the same as hearing the beautiful sounds of ocean waves. Speaking of waves, I am have a really rough one right now. Very intense dizziness and jaw/head pressure. It started last Wednesday and other than a few hours on the 4th, it is staying with me. 

 

I include you in my prayers and I look forward to the day of reading your success story. Big hugs to you dear friend.

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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Heart zaps in my sleep:

 

I haven't had these lately, but I wrote about the way they feel to someone else and wanted to document it here.  I didn't have brain zaps, but I had these horrible shots of adrenaline to my heart.  I can't say they are a stronger form of a cortisol spike because there was a different quality to them, but I suspect cortisol has a role.  I think adrenaline is involved more than anything.

 

It felt like what I assume a mild heart attack might feel like (although I've never had a heart attack, and I've never been tased either.).  My heart would hurt like a sore muscle for hours afterward.  I think a cortisol spike is involved, but I don't know.  It's definitely like the feeling you get when you've almost had a car accident only more intense and without the pounding lasting as long.  It results in very strong fear.  Maybe there's a thread on it here.  I've never looked.  Strangely, going back to sleep wasn't too hard unless I started thinking about bad things, other scary things, death, etc.. Once it happened many times I learned to not feel too worried about the zap itself, but if I was in a deep wave that caused me to lie awake worrying anyway then being awakened by this zap was a real issue.  

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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On 7/2/2018 at 5:44 AM, Rosetta said:

I dream of the day I can relax at home the way I used to, and feel recharged

Hello Rosetta, again.  I've read a bit more of your thread and realise that it's a rocky road for you still.  The quote above so aptly reflects one of the things I dream about getting back!

 

Best

 

Neroli

2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013.  April 2013 - July 2014  Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine.  July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d.  February 2016 Fluoxetine.  July 2016 - mid January 2017  Medication free, long term w/d syndrome, physical breakdown.

2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated.  Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN.  April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone

Initial Diazepam taper

2017 21 August - 21.25mg, 9 September - 20mg, 23 October - 19.16mg, 28 October - 18.33mg, 4 November - 17.5mg, 18 November - 17mg, 2 December -  16.5mg, 9 December - 16mg, 23 December 15mg, 30 Dec - 14.5mg

2018 6 Jan -12Jan down to 14.00mg, 24 Feb - 2 Mar down to 13.5mg, 10 Mar - 16 Mar down to 13mg,
7 April - 20 April down to  - 12.5mg, 28 April - 11 May down to 12mg.  2 June updose to 12.25mg - holding.

Current dosings + tapers

Diazepam Doses taken at 6am, 12pm and 6pm - 12 Jan 2019 12mg: 29 Sept 11.5mg (0.5mg cut); 19 October 11mg (0.5mg cut), 16 Nov 10.5mg (0.5mg cut), 28 Dec 10mg (0.5mg cut), 25 Jan 2020 9.75mg (0.25mg cut), 8 Feb 9.5mg (0.25mg cut), 22 Feb 9.25mg (0.25mg cut), 1 Mar 9mg (0.25mg cut)

Escitalopram 9.30am - 10mg (tried twice to reduce by 0.1mg, got spooked by extreme fatigue and depression both times, back to original dose)  

Nortriptyline 8.40pm - 15 Oct 2018 cut 2.5mg to 87.25mg, 14 December cut 2.5mg to 85mg, Mon 13 May 2019 cut 2.5mg to 82.5mg, Mon 20 May cut 2.5mg to 80mg, Sun 26 May back up to 82.5mg, Fri 28 June cut 2.5mg to 80mg, Sun 14 July cut 5mg to 75mg, 25 July back up 2.5mg to 77.5mg, Sat 31 Aug cut 2.5mg to 75mg

 

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11 hours ago, Rosetta said:

didn't get up until after 9:00 am! All through the night I kept drinking water and goingÔĽŅÔĽŅ toÔĽŅ the ÔĽŅbathroomÔĽŅÔĽŅÔĽŅÔĽŅ in theÔĽŅ hopes that avoiding dehydration would help meÔĽŅÔĽŅ ÔĽŅhave a better day. ¬†It was 105

Hi Rosetta, 

If after drinking water you need to go to the bathroom, it means that you are hydrated enough! 

There is no need to disturb your precious sleep around it. 

Best regards and take care 

Kostas 

Citalopram 20 mg

Mid June 1994- end March 1995 Then tapering 3 months 

Mid August 1995-end August 1996 Tapering 6 months 

Mid January 2000-end September 2001 Tapering 6 months

Mid October 2003-end October 2005 Tapering 7 years. 

More detailed drug history is here - ‚ėľ-kostas

Off any drug from October 2012 

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@Kostas One would think so, but honestly, I think something about my body wasn't working properly.  

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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There's been a change again.  The muscle tension is gone, and I didn't have it in the night!  I woke up without anxiety, and I had no cortisol spikes in the night.  I did wake up about 2:00, and I spent about 1 1/2 hours awake.  I started to worry by the time I was able to go back to sleep.  I'm back to having slight bathroom troubles from the magnesium.  Before I was having a very normal bathroom experience for many days.

 

These past few days, I felt dehydrated - slight headache, muscle tension, dry skin, lack of appetite, low energy, white tongue with a crack in the middle -- the whole package!  I could not drink enough water to get rid of the signs, and I wasn't having caffeine or alcohol either.  I do live in a desert, but I believe there was some malfunction in the way my body was processing al the water I drank.  I feel better now, but the white tongue is still white and cracked to a lesser degree.    Today, it's 88 and overcast.  The muscle tension disappeared in the night, and I was able to sleep at 74 degrees whereas I needed 71 degrees the past few nights.    I suspect my body was getting rid of the water too quickly without using it the way it should -- if that's even possible!  Maybe it was because of my cycle which is very wonky right now.

 

I suppose my gut could have been going through some healing process that was requiring something different.  This all very, very strange as all of you know.

 

I feel pretty good today.  Of course, I'm nervous and a bit anxious.  That comes up whenever I'm not distracted. 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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jonnypeters1234567

Change is good. Im pleased to hear that the muscle tension and cortisol spikes have gone.

 

I have the white tongue with a crack down the middle, think its zinc related.

 

 

2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems

 

Sertaline 2010- 6monnths

 

2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT

 

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Thank you for your kind messages on my thread, Rosetta.  I am so glad you are feeling pretty good today!

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg

2020: 1/14/20: 10.89 mg (1.27% drop); 1/22/20: 10.75 mg (1.29% drop); 2/28/20 toe surgery; 4/26/20: 10.62 mg (1.21% drop); 5/3/20: 10.5 mg (1.22% drop); 5/10/20: 10.4 mg (1.24% drop); 5/17/20: 10.2 mg (1.25% drop); 6/7/20: 10.10 mg (1.27% drop); 6/14/20: 9.98 mg (1.19% drop); 6/21/20: 9.85 mg (1.30% drop); 6/28/20: 9.7 mg (1.22% drop); 7/12/20: 9.6 mg (1.23% drop); 7/19/20: 9.5 mg (1.25% drop); 7/26/20: 9.4 mg (1.26% drop); 8/2/20: 9.3 mg (1.28% drop); 8/17/20: 9.14 mg (1.19% drop); 8/31/20: 9.0 mg (1.31% drop); 9/6/20: 8.9 mg (1.22% drop); 9/27/20: 8.8 mg (1.23% drop); 10/4/20: 8.7 mg (1.25% drop); 10/11/20: 8.6 mg (1.27% drop); 10/18/20: 8.5 mg (1.28% drop); 11/8/20: 8.4 mg (1.18% drop); 11/15/20: 8.3 mg (1.19% drop); 11/22/20: 8.2 mg (1.21% drop)

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10 hours ago, Rosetta said:

These past few days, I felt dehydrated - slight headache, muscle tension, dry skin, lack of appetite, low energy, white tongue with a crack in the middle -- the whole package!  I could not drink enough water to get rid of the signs, and I wasn't having caffeine or alcohol either.  I do live in a desert, but I believe there was some malfunction in the way my body was processing al the water I drank.  I feel better now, but the white tongue is still white and cracked to a lesser degree.    Today, it's 88 and overcast.  The muscle tension disappeared in the night, and I was able to sleep at 74 degrees whereas I needed 71 degrees the past few nights.    I suspect my body was getting rid of the water too quickly without using it the way it should -- if that's even possible!  

 

I think ADs can mess with antidiuretic hormone.  I would also suggest replacing electrolytes as well as water.

2001‚Äď2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 July 2.9mg  16 Sep 2.8mg  25 Oct 2.7mg

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Hi Rosetta,

WOW!  I think you are healing more and more!  To be missing your walks, to have people AND kids ;) over to the house, t to have less anxiety and thought spiraling, and so much more....I just am so grateful for you to hear it all!!!  

I wanted to say that when my potassium is low I go to the bathroom much more, and much more at night,  and am much more thirsty, drier skin etc.  Salt makes it worse so I try to drink things with more potassium and less salt.  Milk, some pedialytes and foods....in any case just wanted to let you know.

Continue to take care of you!!!¬†ūüíú¬†

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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@Rosetta Just saw your post from yesterday. I love hearing your good news and your progression for the positive. You are doing great and your positive attitude is paying off. It won't be long and we will be reading your success story. I look forward to it! You are amazing! 


Big hugs! 

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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Cheering on you and sending lots hugs!

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started¬†dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mgÔľĆ8/31--1.7m‚ÄÜg, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mgÔľĆ 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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(Window seems to have ended in the night.  I'm not sure yet.)

 

Thanks everyone for your kind comments about my window, mirage, Jonny, Wantrelief, Rabe, LexAnger and Songbird.  Perhaps it is an electrolyte issue.

 

Journal:

 

Yesterday, I felt good all day.  I took my daughter to nighttime zoo from 6-9 pm, and we had a wonderful time.  We rode the skyway which is like a ski lift to the high point of the zoo.  We saw the polar bears and fed strawberries to some bushy tailed squirrels who were "volunteers."  We saw some monkeys who had two playful babies.  Then we saw a parade.  I'm so glad I took advantage of the day.  I felt so normal.

 

Today, I've been feeling anxious and afraid.  It seems to be getting stronger.  I woke up feeling a little anxious and out of sorts.  I felt some sadness and anxiety when I was awake in the night.  I was able to sleep late, and then I woke up with a small cortisol spike.

 

My friend came over with her 4 year old, and I was distracted for a while by that.  She's one of the few people who knows what's going on with me, and she's very understanding.  Having her here with all three of her kids is very challenging, but sometimes just the one is ok.  Sometimes not as he's 4.

 

Now, I'm irritable, anxious, afraid and I anger easily.  I feel tension in my face and neck.  My face feels tight and hot as if I had just been humiliated by something very embarrassing.  I've described this feeling before.  Maybe it's a form of Akathisia?  This paragraph describes the most classic feelings of withdrawal for me.  I know this feeling is unrelated to anything that's happening in real life (aside from the fact that the United States seems to be imploding.  Maybe it's fairer to say that this feeling is very exaggerated and outsized given what is happening to me personally in my immediate vicinity.). I feel persecuted, but I know (now, I know) it's my own brain making me feel that way.

 

I'm having some hormone shifts as if my cycle is trying to start.  This is based on some physical signs.

 

I'm doing my best to avoiding spiraling.  It is soul crushing to come out of a window.

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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I am so sorry you aren't feeling as well today as you did yesterday.  Your day yesterday sounds amazing - how wonderful it must have felt to feel normal!!  I really hope you get back to that place very soon.  

 

Thank you so much for your supportive message on my thread.  Your continued encouragement means a lot to me.

 

Sending you a big hug, 

WR

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg

2020: 1/14/20: 10.89 mg (1.27% drop); 1/22/20: 10.75 mg (1.29% drop); 2/28/20 toe surgery; 4/26/20: 10.62 mg (1.21% drop); 5/3/20: 10.5 mg (1.22% drop); 5/10/20: 10.4 mg (1.24% drop); 5/17/20: 10.2 mg (1.25% drop); 6/7/20: 10.10 mg (1.27% drop); 6/14/20: 9.98 mg (1.19% drop); 6/21/20: 9.85 mg (1.30% drop); 6/28/20: 9.7 mg (1.22% drop); 7/12/20: 9.6 mg (1.23% drop); 7/19/20: 9.5 mg (1.25% drop); 7/26/20: 9.4 mg (1.26% drop); 8/2/20: 9.3 mg (1.28% drop); 8/17/20: 9.14 mg (1.19% drop); 8/31/20: 9.0 mg (1.31% drop); 9/6/20: 8.9 mg (1.22% drop); 9/27/20: 8.8 mg (1.23% drop); 10/4/20: 8.7 mg (1.25% drop); 10/11/20: 8.6 mg (1.27% drop); 10/18/20: 8.5 mg (1.28% drop); 11/8/20: 8.4 mg (1.18% drop); 11/15/20: 8.3 mg (1.19% drop); 11/22/20: 8.2 mg (1.21% drop)

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1 hour ago, Rosetta said:

 My face feels tight and hot as if I had just been humiliated by something very embarrassing.  I've described this feeling before.  Maybe it's a form of Akathisia?  This paragraph describes the most classic feelings of withdrawal for me.  I know this feeling is unrelated to anything that's happening in real life (aside from the fact that the United States seems to be imploding.  Maybe it's fairer to say that this feeling is very exaggerated and outsized given what is happening to me personally in my immediate vicinity.).

 

I get something similar, like a rush of blood to the head and my face feels like it is flushing, but it looks normal.  There's always a trigger but it's like a big overreaction to something small.

2001‚Äď2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 July 2.9mg  16 Sep 2.8mg  25 Oct 2.7mg

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It is absolutely soul crushing to come out of a window.  We have to look at them as positive signs that we will eventually have those good times and they will last.  I am sorry to hear that you are not feeling as well, but it really does sound like you are making big improvements overall, so hopefully the next window will be here before you know it!

Zoloft 50 mg Fall 2003-October 2016

I went up to 150 mg for several months during the winter of 2016 after going through a tough time trying to stabilize.

Lexapro 5 mg and then 10 mg October 2016-December 2016

Paxil December 2016 to present.  Started at 10 mg went up to 20 mg for three weeks and started reducing by 5mg every 2 weeks per doctors orders.  Got down to 7.5 mg and ran into trouble, found this website and updosed to 10 mg.

 9mg paroxetine June 18-6.5 mg in am 2.5 mg pm.  

July 20 began switch to Citalopram-9 mg Paxil and 5 mg citalopram

July 24-7.5mg paroxetine and 7.5mg Citalopram 

July 27-5mg paroxetine and 10 citalopram 

July 30-2.5 paroxetine and 10 of Citalopram 

August 2-2mg paroxetine and 10mg Citalopram, dropped paroxetine Aug. 3

August 8 increased to 15 mg citalopram

Take 1mg lorazepam as needed and 3mg melatonin at night.

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Were you out in the heat and sun all day yesterday Rosetta?  I do know that, for me, when I have done that...it takes more than a day for things to reset themselves as far as my dehydration and electrolytes etc. Often it is hard for me to tell whether Im having that imbalance or whether the anxiety and fear and depression and what is like a strange childlike agitation are more r/t to the WD.  I have gone in to have my blood drawn cause Im sure my electrolytes are off...and they are absolutely normal.  How the symptoms mimic each other has been astonishing to me.  

Im sorry you are struggling today and do hope tonight and tomorrow are better for you, Rosetta.¬† You said it so well...it is soul crushing to come out of a window...ūüė쬆 Take care! ¬†Perhaps rest a bit and do at least some inside things tomorrow.ūüíú

 

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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12 hours ago, Rosetta said:

Today, I've been feeling anxious and afraid.

I relate. This is my main symptom. It makes it hard to function. I hope you are feeling better. Cold showers help me. I start out warm and slowly cool it down.

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2001 - Klonopin (.125 mg) for anxiety and sleep at night.

2010 - depressed, tried several SSRI's, settled in 2011 on Saphris (5 mg)

2011 - Dystonic reaction from Saphris. CT. Terrible withdrawal. Panic. 

2011 - Attempts to stablize: Klonopin 1.0 mg. Xanax 1mg. Geoden 20mg. Wellbutrin 100mg. Tried at this time: Seroquel, Cymbalta, Lamictal 

2014 - Vyvanse 20 mg/ADHD, Gabapentin 300 mg added/bladder pain. Wellbutrin fast taper/Rash.

2016 - Depressed - Lithium 300mg til June/Rash and only marginally effective.

2017 - June - Saphris 5 mg added cogentin for side effects

2017 - September Fast taper Saphris. Aug 29. Terrible withdrawal. Panic.

2017 - Attempts to stablize: Lithium: Aug 31 - Sept 9. Stopped. Geoden 40mg Sept 9. Fast taper to 20 mg Sept 13.  Reinstated Saphris Sept 9 (1.25 mg), updosed the Saphris Sept 11 (.2.5mg) .Vyvanse 5mg for ADHD Stopped Sept 14, reinstated sept 17. Cut to 3mg sometime in March.

Omezerpole/reflux. Fish oil supplements. .5 cogentin for possible reactions to Saphris. Oct 25 water taper of Geoden 20mg,  11/18 next 10% drop. Hold at 16.2mg. Dec 12 begin Saphris 2.5 mg taper on scale. Rapid taper doc rec./bad idea. Hold at 1.2mg, updose 2/13. Split Geoden dose 11AM/12mg 7:30PM/6mg. 3/26 Updose Geoden by 2mg to 18mg. Dec 1 split Klonopin dose. 3/23 12 hours apart 3/27. 6/18 1 mg klonopin split 12 hours apart. Sometime in Feb. Klonopin increase to 1.5 to avoid hospital. 6/4 updose Saphris to .015mg July 1 cut Saphris to .014mg. July 29 .013 Aug 29 .012 Sept 29 .011Oct 29 .010 Dec 6 .009 (0.9 mgai) Jan 26 .008 (0.8mgai) Feb 25 (0.7mgai) March 25 (0.6mgai) May 24 begin liquid taper. Cut sublingual tab to .020 in 5ML water. Pull out 1.25ML (.05mgai) 6/14 1ML .025 dry dose dissolved (.045mgai) 7/7 .Dissolve .025 in 8ML drink .009ML 7/28Dissolve .025 in 8ML drink .008ML. 8/18 Jumping! 1/10/20 Geoden taper 18mg to 16mg.2/14 14mg. 3/20 13mg 4/29 11mg 5/21 10mg/6/13 9mg/7/4 8mg/7/24 7mg 8/4 6mg 11/8 5.4mg

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Hello.  Thanks for all your supportive messages.  They are very appreciated.

 

I'm doing better than I thought I would be today.

 

This is a gratitude list:

I slept well.  

I woke at the usual 1:30-2:00 am time and managed to keep the spiraling thoughts at bay well enough.  I went back to sleep after heating my shoulder wrap twice.  

No bruxism

No dystonia

No cortisol spike

No anxiety upon awakening, but lying in bed brought it on

Motivation is present despite some anxiety

Appetite is present

 

Some observations about my clutter issue:

When I feel motivation, I'm very anxious about my clutter.

When I have no motivation, I am less troubled by the clutter.

In both instances, the thought of taking action causes anxiety.

The anxiety is related to my confusion, inability to sort, organize and make decisions, fear of making mistakes, fear of being reminded of past mistakes, hurts, abuse, fears, etc.  

This anxiety is something I will have to confront in order to get started on a solution.  I'm not ready yet.

As I heal, the anxiety will be less and less severe, and one day I'll take some action, make some progress and feel good about that progress.  I know this will happen.  I don't know when.  I'm very impatient for that day to come.  Impatience is a key issue for me to tackle.  

Im beginning to have the cognitive ability to implement some work-arounds so that I can function despite the clutter.

Im beginning to have the ability to tolerate some anxiety while I use the work-arounds.

Im progressing!!

 

Now, Im going to take a shower and go to the beach with my family!!

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Rosetta HURRAY!!! All of this is great news! It is wonderful to hear so much positive happening for you. You are getting closer and closer to being able to write your success story. So awesome!! 

 

Big hugs to you!

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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Hi Rosetta, 

 

That’s great that your symptoms are less, your gratitude list certainly has many positives in it, so happy for you.

 

Enjoy the beach, it’s my happy place too, the sound of water is amazing, very soothing.

 

Sending hugsūü§ó

Been on antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressants and painkillers for chronic pain. 

Have been cold turkeyed and put on and off all sorts of things.  Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward because I had akathisia from withdrawals. I can’t remember what I was put on but when I was released was in the same predicament with severe akathisia n was suicidal again.

Back to the psych ward and I was given a number of different drugs while there. Tapered off one when I got home n have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. It’s been years, tapering slowly but still having severe withdrawals.

I’ve  tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./ March 10th 2019=7.25mg / 17th of April 2019= 7mg / June 5th=6.75mg/ July 14th=6.50mg/ 28th of August=6.25mg/ 10th of Oct= 6.20mg/ 21st October 6mg/ 16th of December 5.80mg/21st of January 5.60mg/

 

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

 

 

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WOW Rosetta!  THAT was FABulous to read!!! :) It was like writing a letter and putting it in a bottle and letting the ocean take it away....how was the beach????  Sounds SO wonderful!  And to just say Im going to the beach with nothing in front of that thought or behind it was just lovely to hear!!!

I, too, believe you will be writing your success story soon....so much progress just since I came here...which hasn't been long! ¬†HUGSSSSS!ūüíú

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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@Rabe

It was very hard to get myself together to go yesterday.  I find it so difficult to pull together all the things we will need.  This is some kind of issue with the way my brain (doesn't) work in WD.  What should be simple and uneventful becomes overwhelming.  It was about 2:00 before we left to go, but we did it.  And I was able to sit on the beach and watch my husband and daughter play.  Then I built a sand castle with my daughter.  We walked up the beach to meet my husband later and went to my MILs for a while.  This morning, I am again struggling to get going.  With my daughter being home this week I'm trying to take her places so we don't stay in my cluttered house that makes me feel so confused and upset.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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  • ChessieCat changed the title to Rosetta: cold switch May 2011 & too fast taper Feb 2017

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