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Thank you @bubbles I never want to go to the beach as it's such an ordeal, but I'm always glad I went.

@RusTW I think if the water were warmer I would really get a lot out of it.  

@Carmie Thanks, I always loved rain before I moved here.  It rarely rains here, and it's cold when it does.  

 

@DMV64  I'm glad that gives you hope!  I have been following your recent posts.  This is the most outrageous mistake for the medical profession to have made.  Really unbelievable.

@mirage Yes, people said that near 18 months there would be a lot of improvement.  That seemed like much too far away, but now that it's here, I'm feeling very hopeful, too.  I will get out of this!

@Cheeky I'm glad you can see hope.  I see it in your thread, too.  The 1 mg drops are helping you.

@RealMe You're welcome!

@Rabe Thanks for being so supportive.  I hope your new capsules are working out.  How sensitive we are.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Thanks, @Sheera.  Thank you, @bubbles.   I forgot to note that something physical has changed, and it’s a big deal.  Last Fall, in August, I tried to wear contact lenses again.  I had given

@Amira123 Oh, yes, all of that!  It all slowly lessened over time.  There were windows when I felt relief from those symptoms.  Then, they would come back and go away again.  At times, I had bad waves

I wrote something similar to this to another member, and I thought I would post it here before I sign off:   It WILL get better.  I am SO MUCH better!  Sometimes I think I should pinch mysel

@RosettaI do hear that 18 months is a turning point. Not fully healed but you start to feel like you are, finally getting somewhere. I pray that to be true. 

 

I saw a new dr who does believe in this withdrawal. She was very supportive. I have an appt to go back and see her in Feb 2019 and she told me I would be doing better but would still need more time. She also says that time and healthy habits are the only thing to heal this and she recommended I go on and live as much as I normally can. 

 

This entire month has been so very challenging. I have had very few times with windows and they were short and not free of symptoms. I just have to keep reminding myself that each and every day healing is taking place and you are proof of that. Thank you for getting back to me. 

 

Prayers and hugs

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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Rosetta-its nice you were able to take a nap.Its been so long for me since i have.i think thats great improvement.hopefully thrue time they will last longer without the cortisol.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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Hello Rosetta

 

It's good to read that you have been having some intimations of improving health and overall condition.  And hope that this 18 month mark is a turning point - though there have been incremental steps to wellbeing along the way in your recovery my hopes and wishes for you are that this is going to be a noticeable upturn for you.  

 

I do like the way you write so beautifully - I also like it that you post your journal of what's happening for you, as it is in reality.  And the way you respond to people is always so encouraging.

 

Thank you so much for being a real support to so many on this site.

 

Neroli  💜

2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013.  April 2013 - July 2014  Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine.  July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d.  February 2016 Fluoxetine.  July 2016 - mid January 2017  Medication free, long term w/d syndrome, physical breakdown.

2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated.  Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN.  April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone

Initial Diazepam taper

2017 21 August - 21.25mg, 9 September - 20mg, 23 October - 19.16mg, 28 October - 18.33mg, 4 November - 17.5mg, 18 November - 17mg, 2 December -  16.5mg, 9 December - 16mg, 23 December 15mg, 30 Dec - 14.5mg

2018 6 Jan -12Jan down to 14.00mg, 24 Feb - 2 Mar down to 13.5mg, 10 Mar - 16 Mar down to 13mg,
7 April - 20 April down to  - 12.5mg, 28 April - 11 May down to 12mg.  2 June updose to 12.25mg - holding.

Current dosings + tapers

Diazepam Doses taken at 6am, 12pm and 6pm - 12 Jan 2019 12mg: 29 Sept 11.5mg (0.5mg cut); 19 October 11mg (0.5mg cut), 16 Nov 10.5mg (0.5mg cut), 28 Dec 10mg (0.5mg cut), 25 Jan 2020 9.75mg (0.25mg cut), 8 Feb 9.5mg (0.25mg cut), 22 Feb 9.25mg (0.25mg cut), 1 Mar 9mg (0.25mg cut)

Escitalopram 9.30am - 10mg (tried twice to reduce by 0.1mg, got spooked by extreme fatigue and depression both times, back to original dose)  

Nortriptyline 8.40pm - 15 Oct 2018 cut 2.5mg to 87.25mg, 14 December cut 2.5mg to 85mg, Mon 13 May 2019 cut 2.5mg to 82.5mg, Mon 20 May cut 2.5mg to 80mg, Sun 26 May back up to 82.5mg, Fri 28 June cut 2.5mg to 80mg, Sun 14 July cut 5mg to 75mg, 25 July back up 2.5mg to 77.5mg, Sat 31 Aug cut 2.5mg to 75mg

 

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@Rosetta 

I hope you are doing better. Im early in withdrawl basically a ct from zoloft and ive been in hell with severe depression and SI, did you have this? Did it improve? This is absolute hell. :( I hope as time goes on this improves. 

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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21 hours ago, Rosetta said:

In fact, I think that the clutter is merely a symptom of what is causing my anxiety!  It's my inability to think clearly, sort, organize and operate efficiently that is causing my anxiety.  Yet, the anxiety is preventing me from having these abilities! My nervous system itself is driving the anxiety.

This is interesting... a Catch-22. I agree that the inability to clearly operate and create small, achievable goals creates anxiety and is also exacberated by that same anxiety. Great insight.

 

"I do like the way you write so beautifully - I also like it that you post your journal of what's happening for you, as it is in reality.  And the way you respond to people is always so encouraging. Thank you so much for being a real support to so many on this site."

 

I agree with Neroli about everything here: thanks, Rosetta.

 

 

  • Prozac | late 2004-mid-2005 | CT WD in a couple months, mostly emotional
  • Sertraline 50-100mg | 11/2011-3/2014, 10/2014-3/2017
  • Sertraline fast taper March 2017, 4 weeks, OFF sertraline April 1, 2017
  • Quit alcohol May 20, 2017, quit coffee October 2017, quit cannabis 😩 July 2018
  • Magnesium powder, fish oil, estradiol, kombucha, gluten/dairy/histamine-lite
  • Lifestyle changes: AA, kundalini practice

 

"If you've seen a monster, even if it's horrible, that's evidence of divinity." – Damien Echols

 

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@RosettaHi, checking in to see how you are doing. Praying and hoping you are continuing to see improvements and that you are able to do and enjoy more things. 

 

Hugs friend.

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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Yesterday was quite miserable and today was just fine.  I had a lot more anxiety yesterday than I expected. I had to distract nearly all day, and I took an Epsom salts bath.  I was trying to "float," I suppose.  I felt overstimulated and very stressed.  The night wasn't very nice either, and I woke up this morning feeling depressed.

 

Then, about an hour after I got up it all lifted!!!  I didn't eat or drink anything, but I started to feel better.  I had plans to go to a water park with a friend and her kids.  So, I had a good breakfast, and I got ready to go without much of a problem.  We were out the door by 10:45.  It felt like a miracle.  

 

We spent 6 1/2 hours at the park.  I was tired by about 3:30, but I felt OK emotionally.  This time last year all I could do was sit on the couch and worry.  I cried nearly every day.  My anxiety was sky high and I was only beginning my descent into Hell.  The difference in how I feel and what I can do now is absolutely astounding.  

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Elyssa143. Yes, I had all of that -- SI everyday, several times per day, . Instead of severe depression I had severe anxiety.  You are 3.5 months off Sertraline?  You will get your life back, Elyssa.  You have to hold on in order to do that.  Hold on for dear life and wait for your system to heal itself.  This is all temporary.  Find the techniques you need to hold on at this website and use as much support as you need here and in real life.  Do not give up. Your body will find its balance again in time.  You will see if you read through my thread that I struggled a long time and I still have bad days, but I'm seeing a lot of payoff now.  Do not give up -- that's the best advice I can give you.  This is temporary.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Thank you, mirage!!  I appreciate your not so very much. @mirage

@FarmGirlWorks Its crazy that it's taken me this long to figure that out, but anxiety paralyzed the brain.  It's a terrible catch-22, but it's really a minor problem compared to the overall WD nightmare. I don't need the stress of having people over anyway.  There will be time for that in 6 months or a year.  Now that I can get it together to go out more, that's giving me all the contact with people I can handle atm.

@neroli Thank you for stopping by. I know that took effort.  You are very kind.  

@RusTW Thanks.  I'm glad you are finding this site useful.  I feel it saved my life.  I could not have found the hope I needed to go on without it.  The inability to nap is one of those symptoms that is so clearly a sign that something has gone terribly wrong with the nervous system.  Normal anxiety and depression cannot cause that, and they don't cause cortisol spikes either. It's iatrogenic damage, and it's only through deliberate ignorance that doctors don't see that avenue of investigation when a patient presents with WD symptoms.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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2 hours ago, Rosetta said:

The inability to nap is one of those symptoms that is so clearly a sign that something has gone terribly wrong with the nervous system

I so hate this part of the process (well, I find most of the symptoms a trial, to be honest) - can't sleep past 4.00am-ish, get up early, feeling tired, but can't nap during the day.  And if I do happen to fall asleep (like when I'm coming home on the train) I have disturbing half-dreams and then wake up with a horrifying jolt, feeling giddy and drained.  Ugh..

2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013.  April 2013 - July 2014  Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine.  July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d.  February 2016 Fluoxetine.  July 2016 - mid January 2017  Medication free, long term w/d syndrome, physical breakdown.

2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated.  Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN.  April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone

Initial Diazepam taper

2017 21 August - 21.25mg, 9 September - 20mg, 23 October - 19.16mg, 28 October - 18.33mg, 4 November - 17.5mg, 18 November - 17mg, 2 December -  16.5mg, 9 December - 16mg, 23 December 15mg, 30 Dec - 14.5mg

2018 6 Jan -12Jan down to 14.00mg, 24 Feb - 2 Mar down to 13.5mg, 10 Mar - 16 Mar down to 13mg,
7 April - 20 April down to  - 12.5mg, 28 April - 11 May down to 12mg.  2 June updose to 12.25mg - holding.

Current dosings + tapers

Diazepam Doses taken at 6am, 12pm and 6pm - 12 Jan 2019 12mg: 29 Sept 11.5mg (0.5mg cut); 19 October 11mg (0.5mg cut), 16 Nov 10.5mg (0.5mg cut), 28 Dec 10mg (0.5mg cut), 25 Jan 2020 9.75mg (0.25mg cut), 8 Feb 9.5mg (0.25mg cut), 22 Feb 9.25mg (0.25mg cut), 1 Mar 9mg (0.25mg cut)

Escitalopram 9.30am - 10mg (tried twice to reduce by 0.1mg, got spooked by extreme fatigue and depression both times, back to original dose)  

Nortriptyline 8.40pm - 15 Oct 2018 cut 2.5mg to 87.25mg, 14 December cut 2.5mg to 85mg, Mon 13 May 2019 cut 2.5mg to 82.5mg, Mon 20 May cut 2.5mg to 80mg, Sun 26 May back up to 82.5mg, Fri 28 June cut 2.5mg to 80mg, Sun 14 July cut 5mg to 75mg, 25 July back up 2.5mg to 77.5mg, Sat 31 Aug cut 2.5mg to 75mg

 

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@Rosetta im glad to see your doing better. How long were you on meds? Its been hell since march for me. I ended up tapering too quickly reinstating and ended up in the pysch ward twice.  And on zyprexa for 10days which i tapered over 5 weeks. Its been a nightmare. The depression is absolute hell, Ive never experienced something so dark. I do have times where it isnt so horrific so Im greatful for that and have had some improvements. I know its going to be a rough road im just praying I have the strength to get through. Its very scary. I went through benzo withdrawls 9 years ago, I had no idea the antidepressants could do the same thing. I eat extremely well and changed all of my body products to help lighten the toxic load. Im praying things continue to slowly get better, is that what they did for you? 

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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@Rosetta did your withdrawl come on right away? I know for some people it doesnt. What about the akasthsia? What was that like? I had it when they upped my meds and added others but its been sooooo much better since Ive been off. 

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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@neroli and @Rosetta I read your post about the nap and sleep problems. I too have that weirdness. ! When I wake in the morning, it is always during odd dreams. They aren't usually scary but just so strange and I jolt awake while having them.

 

During the day, i have this fatigue. I yawn all day and I am clearly tired. However if I were to try and nap, my eyes are closed, yet, I hear everything going on around me. But when I wake up and  I open my eyes, an hour would have gone by. I never feel like I actually fell asleep. It is more of a conscious state of rest. I never had that problem before this journey. It is as if my body has forgotten what it feels like to be tired. So it gets fatigued and I go through the norm of yawning but my system cant ease up enough to actually sleep. 

 

Over the past week, my sleep pattern has been changing. I use to be able to fall asleep pretty quickly in the night but would awaken at 4am. Now, I can't seem to fall asleep. I have tried melatonin but the only thing working is to take a half of a Benadryl and that will usually do it. I do try to fall asleep on my own, but this week I toss and turn until around midnight then end up taking the Benadryl. I am now able to sleep past the 4am abrupt call. I also try and doze once I wake up. I try and stay in bed until between 6:30 and 7:30am. However, the dozing in the morning is very much like the napping, conscious state of sleep and weird dreams with jolting awake. Until...this morning. I had a break through. Woke up around 5am but then fell back asleep and actually went into a deep sleep. Didn't wake up until 7:30. Now i'm not sure that will be the new norm but clearly there are changes happening with my sleep. I am praying this is my system trying to normalize my sleep pattern. Rosetta, what are your thoughts? Has this happened to you and how is it now?

 

 

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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I'm feel really rough today.  The neck and shoulder tension is actual pain this time.  My arms and legs are starting to feel the Akathisia feeling.  I'm sorry I can't answer any of your questions.  Reading is making it all worse.  I feel very overwhelmed.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@RosettaSounds like a wave is hitting you. It will pass. Stay strong. 

 

Sending healing thoughts your way and prayers that this is short. 

 

Big hugs!

Started Wellbutrin 300xl mid July, 2009. Stopped Wellbutrin 300xl cold turkey May 8, 2017

Started having symptoms started June 2, 2017. Started Wellbutrin 150xl July 7, 2017

Started Remeron 15mg August 15, 2017. Increased Remeron to 30mg October 4, 2017

Increased Wellbutrin to 300xl November 24, 2017. Lowered Wellbutrin 300xl back to 150xl January 8, 2018

Started weaning off of Remeron 30mg. Cut to 22.25mg January 11, 2018

Cut Remeron to 15mg January 18, 2018 Cut Remeron to 7.5mg January 25, 2018

Cut Remeron to 3.5mg January 30,2018. Stopped taking Remeron February 1, 2018

Currently taking: Fish Oil, Magnesium, Calcium, Vit D, Progesterone,

Hormone Replacement Pellets-Estrogen Testosterone 

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I am so sorry to hear you aren't doing well today.  I am thinking about you, Rosetta.  

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg

2020: 1/14/20: 10.89 mg (1.27% drop); 1/22/20: 10.75 mg (1.29% drop); 2/28/20 toe surgery; 4/26/20: 10.62 mg (1.21% drop); 5/3/20: 10.5 mg (1.22% drop); 5/10/20: 10.4 mg (1.24% drop); 5/17/20: 10.2 mg (1.25% drop); 6/7/20: 10.10 mg (1.27% drop); 6/14/20: 9.98 mg (1.19% drop); 6/21/20: 9.85 mg (1.30% drop); 6/28/20: 9.7 mg (1.22% drop); 7/12/20: 9.6 mg (1.23% drop); 7/19/20: 9.5 mg (1.25% drop); 7/26/20: 9.4 mg (1.26% drop); 8/2/20: 9.3 mg (1.28% drop); 8/17/20: 9.14 mg (1.19% drop); 8/31/20: 9.0 mg (1.31% drop); 9/6/20: 8.9 mg (1.22% drop); 9/27/20: 8.8 mg (1.23% drop); 10/4/20: 8.7 mg (1.25% drop); 10/11/20: 8.6 mg (1.27% drop); 10/18/20: 8.5 mg (1.28% drop); 11/8/20: 8.4 mg (1.18% drop); 11/15/20: 8.3 mg (1.19% drop); 11/22/20: 8.2 mg (1.21% drop)

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Thanks Wantrelief and mirage.  It helps to know you care.  I am so tired of this.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Rosetta= thanks for responding to my questions and giving some good advice about tapering. I hope you feel better .sorry you're going through a wave again.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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Hi Rosetta I'm in the trenches with you also today. Here's a little pick-me-up success story you might want to check out. it's pretty inspirational. I was thinking about you it might make you feel a little bit better I can't paste it because I'm using my cell phone so just goto.Aeroman /haven't logged in inwhile.on SA

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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Thank you, Rus.  That's so kind.  I just have to wait out this anxiety.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Rosetta I hope things start to ease up a bit for you. 💓

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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Disorder and Confusion breeds Anxiety and being asked to do anything increases the anxiety

 

This anxiety makes me want to DO something, but I can't think straight enough to fix what I identify as causing my anxiety.  My mind is focusing on the chaos around me as the reason for my anxiety, but I cannot organize anything.  

 

I have to ignore the chaos and do something I can do.  Take a walk or do something mindless.  Anything that isn't familiar, mundane or passive kicks the anxiety up higher.  

 

When I'm anxious, my daughter is anxious.  She starts demanding my attention and speaking nonsense words that cause me more and more confusion and stress.  I know they are nonsense words and I could ignore them, but they really upset me.  I need order and calmness right now.  Anything out of order, even fun, silly nonsense words make my brain feel scrambled.  

 

It's the same with piles of disordered stuff.  It's extremely distressing. I can't look at them, I can't pick things out of them, I can't look for something I need.  The anxiety if I do just builds and builds.  When I'm in this state, disorder is unbelievably difficult for me to face.  Is this what it feels like to be schizophrenic?  Severely distressed by disorder in the world?  Am I missing the neurotransmitter balance that is missing for people who are schizophrenic?  Is this why they get so upset?  Or this what it's like for autistic people?  It's very, very stressful.

 

I tried to play a game with my daughter, but she's very animated today, knocking everything over, standing on her head, and jumping around, and our game pieces were flying off the board and under the couch.  That made me more anxious than before.  I had to stop.  She had a hard time focusing on the game which is normal for a 7 year old.  She kept distracting me, and my anxiety kept rising higher and higher.  

 

This is a new understanding of my anxiety.  I didn't realize the connections existed before.  I just felt horribly anxiety, but I could t understand how or why.

 

If the pressure gets too much, I feel angry.  My husband's cousin asked to be hosted at my MILs for his 60th birthday which is tomorrow.  Yesterday, he called and asked my daughter to bake a cake for him.  That's one day's notice!  I'm really angry that he asked.  

 

Normally, I would feel happy about something like this, but I would notice that it was rude for him to call one day before and ask for this.  Instead, I'm downright furious.  I just want the world to STOP.  I want peace.  I want calmness.  I don't want to help my daughter make a cake.  I can't do that without getting overwhelmed and making her feel that she's done something wrong.  I have to be very careful to avoid stressful activities with her when I'm in this state.  

 

So, my husband says I don't have to; he'll do it.  Why doesn't that satisfy me?  I feel guilty that I'm not doing this with her?  Maybe I just feel upset and worried that something I would normally really enjoy -- baking -- with my daughter no less -- is something I can't do because I have irrational anxiety caused by a physical illness with no basis in any real life anxiety producing circumstances.  It's all so disordered!!!  

 

I'm furious that my husband said yes on one day's notice.  It's an imposition that I feel he should have refused in order to protect me.  We never know when I will have a wave.  I don't expect our lives to be on hold, but he knew I was upset about having to go and socialize tomorrow in the first place.  I don't want this additional obligation even if I don't have to participate.  He had to know this would upset me.  It's adding to the chaos in my house.  This whole situation makes me feel bad about myself.  I feel that in order to avoid being overstimulated that I have to hide away in a bedroom while they are baking.  That is ramping up my anxiety, because I hate the way that would look to my daughter.  She's old enough to understand I'm not normal.  What does that do to her and her sense of herself?  How is she going to see herself if her mother is overwhelmed by the fact she and her father are baking a cake?  I'm in tears over this.  

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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 I'm sorry you have to go through that Rosetta. You know your limits so just don't overdo it I think it's hard because we get frustrated that we can't do more. I think it's hard when we don't feel the connectedness to ourselves that it's hard to feel that with other people sometimes and relate and understand and carry on as normal. We will get past this.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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 slow and steady as Mirage told me this.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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Akathisia is driving this.  I think that must be the cause.  I woke up with such intense muscle tension this morning.  My arms have been hurting all morning; the muscles on the insides of my forearms from my wrists to my elbows have been contracted and those on the outside hurt have been hurting even more.  My joints in my elbows and wrists hurt.  

 

My daughter went off to play, and I was trying to describe to my husband why the making of a cake in my house today would make this wave worse.  He was very frustrated.  He's very tired of caring for me and then having to guess at what is going to cause me distress.  It took him by surprise that the making of this cake would cause me so much anxiety. Then, at his reaction, I started crying.  I have not been able to make him understand this problem in an entire year of having Akathisia. I kept trying to say the word "overstimulation," but he couldn't understand it because I was so contorted in my neck and face.  Finally, he understood and said that he would let me be alone if he was overstimulating me by just sitting there.  That's not what I meant, of course.  I meant the cake making would be over stimulating!  So, I felt abandoned and misunderstood.  I was so distressed that my arms curled up and my fingers curled up like those of celebral palsy patients.  

 

I started feeling SI which always happens when I try to discuss anything with my husband while I have this severe anxiety with Akathisia.  Of course, my daughter walked in in the middle of this, and now I feel horribly guilty that she saw me crying so hard.  She was desperate to make the conversation stop.  

 

After I calmed down, I said I needed quiet and peace and for everything to just stop.  I said it was important that nothing out of the ordinary go on in the house today.  He said that's ok, and he won't make the cake.  My daughter said she didn't want to make it anyway, and I expected that, too.  This particular cake she doesn't like to eat, and at her age that means she would lose interest in the process very quickly.  So, I was going to have to entertain her.  I had hoped we could have a quiet day and that her father would take her out or play with her somehow.  So, that's what they are doing now.  She likes to play mine craft with him.  He does all the mining and makes her armor so that they can go wherever they want to go inside the game.

 

I'm completely worn out and my arms and neck and joints hurt more than they did before.  My chest and my legs ache with electricity running through them.  Maybe I should try taking Benadryl on days like this?  I just want to avoid having my daughter see me in so much distress.  I want to avoid these unpleasant conversations with my husband.  

 

I can't figure out how to protect my daughter from this.  What is this doing to her?  I think I had fooled myself into thinking that this kind of intense anxiety with Akathisia was in the past because I have been feeling so much better lately, but I guess not.  

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Rosetta that's what's so hard about this condition is that we have to explain it to our friends and family members and I don't think they get it because it's a lot deeper than we can explain. Then there's frustration because they don't get it This is something you have to go through to understand fully. I can say I can empathize but I definitely would have to go through it to fully understand it. My mom was on Klonopin Valium and Prozac and she cold turkey and everything and never had withdrawals so she doesn't believe in them. She was telling me that withdrawal can't hit you three weeks later. Wrong. The other day she seen that I was having a hard time and she told me just to change the way I was thinking and 2 snap out of it and I almost blew my top I had to leave. And then it made my symptoms worse after when I was by myself. I know she was trying to make me feel better and then after my reaction I felt guilty about how I acted leaving like that. So things get more complex because there's guilt involved she wants to be the mother and help me out the best she can but she doesn't understand it and that makes me feel bad because I don't want her to feel bad for me. She's very ill now so I don't know how much time she has. That's what makes me so sad about this is that my experience with her. I have to try to make it the best regardless. I'm going to go visit her tomorrow and help her out with some yard work and housework she's a good mom and I love her. And I feel bad because I want to be the Son  that I used to be but now I'm all messed up.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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Journal:

 

I slept better last night.  The muscle tension and pain didn't bother me in the night.  I hope that means this wave is almost over.

 

I had a cortisol spike this morning.  I woke up about 6:30 unable to sleep again.  I'm having sad and angry thoughts.  I'm thinking about being a kid and all the chaos after I went to live with my mother at the age of 8.  I don't think I ever felt safe again.  I feel right now that I'm that girl again.  I'm confused, and I don't understand what's happening to me.  Everything is scary and dangerous.  I'm afraid.  I'm safe right now, but I keep thinking that if I didn't have my husband I would not be safe, and I couldn't care for daughter.  I had hoped that fear was behind me.  I had been feeling so much better.  It doesn't seem that my period is still occurring.  I think that's over, but there is a residual imbalance going on with the neurotransmitters, I suppose.

 

I am yo-yoing again.  I think I'm anxious about the new school year which starts in 2 1/2 weeks.  We start a week and a half earlier than the other schools.  It's still Summer here until mid-September.  I'm very anxious about my daughter's new camp that starts on Monday.  I really need things to stay the same right now.  I need certainty, not change, not new people, new dangers.  Of course, we had to sign a form saying the camp activities are dangerous, and that we will not sue if she gets hurt.  It makes me want to cancel the camp.  We have to get up early to drive 45 minutes over there, and then she goes on a short bus ride.  That upsets me. There are no seat belts.  I really hate school buses.

 

Being in WD with a child to worry about is really a challenge.  I am so angry that I ever took ADs.  They should not be given to people who want children.  My doctor told me it was better to have a "healthy" mother on ADs than otherwise.  I wish he had told me to never touch ADs.  That they were dangerous.  I wasn't even pregnant yet when he said that.  So, from the very beginning he intended to prescribe ADs long term -- longer than the studies were and therefore longer than they were "safe."  It's all so sad and depressing.

 

My brain feels scrambled, and I want to fix it.  So, I keep thinking about how to make my environment more orderly.  I don't really think that will help in moments like this, but maybe it would when I'm less anxious.  Moderators, is this a part of WD?. Am I right that the anxiety is causing a lack of order in my brain, and that lack of order is causing secondary anxiety?  Has anyone else ever described it that way?  I feel so scared.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Hi Rosetta,

So happy to hear you slept better.  And I think it is such a sign of healing that you can so clearly identify your thoughts and emotions and connect the two!

 

I personally found that in the best of times change, chaos, disorder, feeling out of control, having to commit caused anxiety...but now it is so so much more so....and I think it is related to my system being so sensitive and also my history of trauma.  I never felt safe and when I left my safe place I never have felt safe again.  

 

I think seeing the connection is huge!  Take care!!!

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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Hello Rosetta

 

So sorry to hear you are in a big struggle at the moment.  Sending best thoughts that this is a wave that will pass soon for you.

 

Neroli 💜

2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013.  April 2013 - July 2014  Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine.  July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d.  February 2016 Fluoxetine.  July 2016 - mid January 2017  Medication free, long term w/d syndrome, physical breakdown.

2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated.  Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN.  April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone

Initial Diazepam taper

2017 21 August - 21.25mg, 9 September - 20mg, 23 October - 19.16mg, 28 October - 18.33mg, 4 November - 17.5mg, 18 November - 17mg, 2 December -  16.5mg, 9 December - 16mg, 23 December 15mg, 30 Dec - 14.5mg

2018 6 Jan -12Jan down to 14.00mg, 24 Feb - 2 Mar down to 13.5mg, 10 Mar - 16 Mar down to 13mg,
7 April - 20 April down to  - 12.5mg, 28 April - 11 May down to 12mg.  2 June updose to 12.25mg - holding.

Current dosings + tapers

Diazepam Doses taken at 6am, 12pm and 6pm - 12 Jan 2019 12mg: 29 Sept 11.5mg (0.5mg cut); 19 October 11mg (0.5mg cut), 16 Nov 10.5mg (0.5mg cut), 28 Dec 10mg (0.5mg cut), 25 Jan 2020 9.75mg (0.25mg cut), 8 Feb 9.5mg (0.25mg cut), 22 Feb 9.25mg (0.25mg cut), 1 Mar 9mg (0.25mg cut)

Escitalopram 9.30am - 10mg (tried twice to reduce by 0.1mg, got spooked by extreme fatigue and depression both times, back to original dose)  

Nortriptyline 8.40pm - 15 Oct 2018 cut 2.5mg to 87.25mg, 14 December cut 2.5mg to 85mg, Mon 13 May 2019 cut 2.5mg to 82.5mg, Mon 20 May cut 2.5mg to 80mg, Sun 26 May back up to 82.5mg, Fri 28 June cut 2.5mg to 80mg, Sun 14 July cut 5mg to 75mg, 25 July back up 2.5mg to 77.5mg, Sat 31 Aug cut 2.5mg to 75mg

 

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Thanks, Rabe and Neroli.  That was pretty awful, and then it lessened quite a lot around 4:00 or so.  I feel clear headed now, but I have lost the day.  I'm really tired.  These waves wear me out.  

 

I told my husband he could make the cake this morning.  So, he did, and it didn't cause me much grief at all. Yesterday, I was desperate to avoid that happening, and today it was not a problem.  So ridiculous.  He and my daughter went to his mother's for his cousin's birthday.  I stayed home alone, and I wasn't even afraid to do so.  Absolutely ridiculous.  Is this what mental Akathisia is like for most people?  Or is this something else?  This is so bizarre.

 

ADDITION: I felt sleepy this afternoon before I started feeling clear headed.  I may have dozed off for 5 minutes or so.  Then, I had diarrhea.  I took a mag bath yesterday, but I didn't take oral magnesium before bed last night.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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I am happy to read you are feeling better, Rosetta.  Thinking about you - WR.

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg

2020: 1/14/20: 10.89 mg (1.27% drop); 1/22/20: 10.75 mg (1.29% drop); 2/28/20 toe surgery; 4/26/20: 10.62 mg (1.21% drop); 5/3/20: 10.5 mg (1.22% drop); 5/10/20: 10.4 mg (1.24% drop); 5/17/20: 10.2 mg (1.25% drop); 6/7/20: 10.10 mg (1.27% drop); 6/14/20: 9.98 mg (1.19% drop); 6/21/20: 9.85 mg (1.30% drop); 6/28/20: 9.7 mg (1.22% drop); 7/12/20: 9.6 mg (1.23% drop); 7/19/20: 9.5 mg (1.25% drop); 7/26/20: 9.4 mg (1.26% drop); 8/2/20: 9.3 mg (1.28% drop); 8/17/20: 9.14 mg (1.19% drop); 8/31/20: 9.0 mg (1.31% drop); 9/6/20: 8.9 mg (1.22% drop); 9/27/20: 8.8 mg (1.23% drop); 10/4/20: 8.7 mg (1.25% drop); 10/11/20: 8.6 mg (1.27% drop); 10/18/20: 8.5 mg (1.28% drop); 11/8/20: 8.4 mg (1.18% drop); 11/15/20: 8.3 mg (1.19% drop); 11/22/20: 8.2 mg (1.21% drop)

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Thank you @wantrelief. I'm relieved.  I hope I can relax some more.  I hope you are all right, Wantrelief.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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SO glad to hear the wave is receding Rosetta...and that it was a short one!!!

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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jonnypeters1234567

akathisia, is severe restlessness, racing mind. I get paranoia with it, that I shouldnt be resting and should be out doing things to aid my recovery. Pacing seems to calm me and rubbing my hands together. It seems the brain can only focus on one thing during this and can be distracted

2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems

 

Sertaline 2010- 6monnths

 

2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT

 

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Very good observation, Jonny and thank you because when I'm confused I forget a simple solution like that.  @jonnypeters1234567

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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  • ChessieCat changed the title to Rosetta: cold switch May 2011 & too fast taper Feb 2017

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