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Hi Rosetta! Stopping in to say and and see how you are doing!

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2001 - Klonopin (.125 mg) for anxiety and sleep at night.

2010 - depressed, tried several SSRI's, settled in 2011 on Saphris (5 mg)

2011 - Dystonic reaction from Saphris. CT. Terrible withdrawal. Panic. 

2011 - Attempts to stablize: Klonopin 1.0 mg. Xanax 1mg. Geoden 20mg. Wellbutrin 100mg. Tried at this time: Seroquel, Cymbalta, Lamictal 

2014 - Vyvanse 20 mg/ADHD, Gabapentin 300 mg added/bladder pain. Wellbutrin fast taper/Rash.

2016 - Depressed - Lithium 300mg til June/Rash and only marginally effective.

2017 - June - Saphris 5 mg added cogentin for side effects

2017 - September Fast taper Saphris. Aug 29. Terrible withdrawal. Panic.

2017 - Attempts to stablize: Lithium: Aug 31 - Sept 9. Stopped. Geoden 40mg Sept 9. Fast taper to 20 mg Sept 13.  Reinstated Saphris Sept 9 (1.25 mg), updosed the Saphris Sept 11 (.2.5mg) .Vyvanse 5mg for ADHD Stopped Sept 14, reinstated sept 17. Cut to 3mg sometime in March.

Omezerpole/reflux. Fish oil supplements. .5 cogentin for possible reactions to Saphris. Oct 25 water taper of Geoden 20mg,  11/18 next 10% drop. Hold at 16.2mg. Dec 12 begin Saphris 2.5 mg taper on scale. Rapid taper doc rec./bad idea. Hold at 1.2mg, updose 2/13. Split Geoden dose 11AM/12mg 7:30PM/6mg. 3/26 Updose Geoden by 2mg to 18mg. Dec 1 split Klonopin dose. 3/23 12 hours apart 3/27. 6/18 1 mg klonopin split 12 hours apart. Sometime in Feb. Klonopin increase to 1.5 to avoid hospital. 6/4 updose Saphris to .015mg July 1 cut Saphris to .014mg. July 29 .013 Aug 29 .012 Sept 29 .011Oct 29 .010 Dec 6 .009 (0.9 mgai) Jan 26 .008 (0.8mgai) Feb 25 (0.7mgai) March 25 (0.6mgai) May 24 begin liquid taper. Cut sublingual tab to .020 in 5ML water. Pull out 1.25ML (.05mgai) 6/14 1ML .025 dry dose dissolved (.045mgai) 7/7 .Dissolve .025 in 8ML drink .009ML 7/28Dissolve .025 in 8ML drink .008ML. 8/18 Jumping! 1/10/20 Geoden taper 18mg to 16mg.2/14 14mg. 3/20 13mg 4/29 11mg 5/21 10mg/6/13 9mg/7/4 8mg/7/24 7mg 8/4 6mg 11/8 5.4mg

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Thanks, @Sheera.  Thank you, @bubbles.   I forgot to note that something physical has changed, and it’s a big deal.  Last Fall, in August, I tried to wear contact lenses again.  I had given

@Amira123 Oh, yes, all of that!  It all slowly lessened over time.  There were windows when I felt relief from those symptoms.  Then, they would come back and go away again.  At times, I had bad waves

I wrote something similar to this to another member, and I thought I would post it here before I sign off:   It WILL get better.  I am SO MUCH better!  Sometimes I think I should pinch mysel

The night wasn't very good.  I kept waking up and feeling afraid.  My daughter tossed and turned.  She woke me up a lot.  I didn't have much pain.  There was no dystonia.  I think I had several cortisol spikes.  There was a lot of existential fear.  

 

Acceptance, compassion for one's self and -- something that starts with a p.  I always forget what the p word is.  I'm trying to accept that this is my life.  It's very, very uncomfortable.  My heart feels squeezed.  My stomach feels queasy.  My whole head feels like I need to cry.  I feel that I'm not doing anything right.  Everything is out of control.  It's chaos all around me.  I want so badly to fix the chaos, yet even thinking about what I have to do to fix the chaos makes me afraid.  

 

It's absurd, but it's very, very real.  I need to ignore the mess in the garage to put in a load of laundry.  I need to confront the disorder in the kitchen to make breakfast.  I need to pick up some toys and put them in a box.  Why do these thoughts cause such intense fear?  Why am I afraid someone will come to my house and see the clutter?  Why am I afraid someone will abandon me and let me starve because my house is in disarray?  Yes, that's the end of the thought chain -- if I am not good, if I do not keep things in order, if I am not efficient, organized, and together, I will be abandoned, homeless, and starving.  That's what I am most afraid of.  Completely absurd.  That's not going to happen, and if it does it will not happen because I was disorganized!  It certainly won't happen because I TRIED to put laundry in the machine!!!  It won't happen because I have 3 dirty dishes next to the sink, a years worth of paper stacked on the counter and a refrigerator full of stuff that needs to be thrown away.  It's not going to happen because my daughter has too many toys, lots of toys she has outgrown, and that they are scattered in every room.  

 

In six months I'll be so much better than I am now.  It's not that far away.  Before anything bad happens I will be through the worst of this.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Rosetta Im so sorry your having such a hard time, I can relate :/. This is so hard. Ive been doing a bunch of research and these drugs can cause deficiencies, have you by any chance had any blood work done? Not trying to dismiss the withdrawl AT ALL but these drugs can cause so many issues especially years on them. Maybe some possible adrenal fatigue too with the cortisol spikes? Its such a mess trying to figure it all out :(. Im struggling too.are u taking any supplements or anything?  I do hope your wave passes soon. Love and light your way💓 

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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9 hours ago, jonnypeters1234567 said:

akathisia, is severe restlessness, racing mind. I get paranoia with it, that I shouldnt be resting and should be out doing things to aid my recovery. Pacing seems to calm me and rubbing my hands together. It seems the brain can only focus on one thing during this and can be distracted

JP are you doing anything today.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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8 minutes ago, RusTW said:

JP are you doing anything today.

Replying on my thread, thanks

2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems

 

Sertaline 2010- 6monnths

 

2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT

 

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@Rabe @wantrelief @Elyssa143

 

Thanks for your messages.  I always get worse when I have a week when I can't take my walks.  It has been very hot here, and I have to drive to the beach to walk.  Today isn't too hot -- 85 -- but it's too hot for me to walk very far.  I'm hoping to go the beach for a walk today.  My daughter can stay with her grandmother for an hour.  I will try to go everyday next week while my daughter is in camp.

 

Elyssa, thanks for the suggestion.  No, I haven't seen a doctor in over a year.  I just don't want to deal with the frustration.  I have an HMO.  The doctors are very rushed.  They don't want to talk about anything.  They don't listen.  I tried to talk to a gyn about perimenopause, and she said to see the psych department.  The psych dept just prescribes psych meds.  There's no real thought behind anything.  No real diagnosis.  If there's no prescription for a condition then it will not be treated.  If there is a prescription med then why won't I take it?  No alternative ideas or holistic ideas are allowed.  There's no time for that.  They change my primary care physician every 6 months.  They just notify me every time it changes.  I never get to know one, and they never know me as a person.  I'm just a billing number.  

 

I haven't tried asking for blood work for deficiencies.  Maybe I should at least try.  I've wanted to go to a holistic Doctor, but it's so expensive, and I don't know one I can trust.  I really can't afford to pay $200 for a visit just to see if the doctor is any good.  So, I read what others write here, and I try to work it out.  Altostrata saw so very many doctors.  She might have seen 30 or 40.  I don't remember the number she stated,, but I think she knows more about this condition than anyone.  When she says time heals I believe her, but I know she would agree with you that discovering a deficiency would be useful.  She would encourage me to use caution when deciding how to treat that deficiency, I'm sure.

 

I'm sure there are all sorts of things wrong with my adrenal function, and I'm probably deficient in something.  I've been waiting for my brain to sort itself out.  When I had a break from PMS for a few months I felt able to think about the idea that vitamins and nutrition might help me feel better.

 

I have been thinking about B vitamins

 

I have been thinking about eating better.  

 

I got an electrolyte powder called Ultimate Replenisher by Ultimate Health.  Just 3 days ago.

 

I use magnesium powder in water and I take Epsom salt baths (mag baths).  

 

I still haven't added fish oil, but I keep thinking about it.  

 

Thanks for your concern, Elyssa.  I do keep getting better.  I've come to point that I can hold on to the memory of being in a window, and that's amazing, but I do fall into a pretty deep emotional hole when I'm in a wave.  I've been trying to work out why my thoughts go where they go when that happens.  My hope is to use CBT on the thoughts, but that's not always possible when I'm so confused that I can't think clearly.  I've been wondering lately if cog fog is separate from anxiety or if anxiety causes cog fog.  Of course, anxiety can cause cog fog, but my question is whether it is there in the abscence of anxiety.  I'm so rarely completely calm.  I don't remember whether I am clear headed when I'm not anxious.

 

I hope you will feel better soon, Elyssa.  Don't let my long struggle discourage you.  There's no way to tell how long this will take.  Some people get better very quickly and others don't.  In any event, we slowly get better and we slowly get parts of our lives back.  We usually don't see the progress until after the fact.  That makes the day to day struggle so discouraging, but over 3 or 4 months there is a lot of progress.  It's all about seizing the day in a window, and finding ways to do that.  Other people want to make plans and get upset if we cancel.  So, we have to learn to be spontaneous and do a lot of things alone, but do them anyway.  Getting sunshine and gentle exercise is very, very important.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Rosetta Oh you are so right about Doctors! I guess I should have been more specific as far as an alternative Dr or naturopath. Im just really stuck on the fact that we had to have some trauma (emotional or physical) or some sort of imbalance physical that led us onto these meds in the first place right? I have alternative doctor who has checked my thyroid, not just my tsh as that doesnt matter but a full 7 panel test and I had low thyroid, I also had my hormones tested and my progesterone is very low, a regular doctor or gynecologist would never do this. Their paid by the pharmaceutical companies and only want us on meds. I also had my D, Iron and B12 tested and all were low which is a huge thing for depression and anxiety. Ive had my adrenals tested too, their low but im thinking my low dose naturthroid is helping my adrenals? Thyroid is at the root of everything apparently.  Now i do know we need time for our brains and neurotransmitters to balance again and time is the only thing that can heal that, but I also believe in supporting our body? But Im not a professional at all but I did all this when I went through benzo withdrawl and changed my diet severely no sugar, caffeine, gluten, dairy or grains and minimal meat. Who knows it its helping this time, but it helped last time. So im trying to be hopeful.  I know its so damn expensive to get any sort of real help! And thats not fair at all :(. II wish u the best and hopefully we can help support each other through this!

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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@Rosetta did you have windows in the beginning? I do have times where rhings aren't so severe and it seems to be gradually slowly gettinf better im greatful for that. Yes remembering a window in a wave is the hardest too do im glad your able to im praying that starts to come for me. I wasnt on meds long at all and at the lowest dose so im hoping that helps too? Who knows. 

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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I don't really know what happened in the beginning as I was unaware of this WD syndrome at the time.  I quit the AD in mid-Feb 2017, and I discovered that WD existed in July or August.  So, for 5-6 months I didn't know what was happening.  I was having horrible cortisol spikes at 5:00 or 5:30 am and I could not sleep again afterward.  I didn't really sleep deeply either for months.  My arm and face started tingling and going numb.  I lost the ability to concentrate, to think, to plan.  I got much worse through Sept, Oct and Nov.. When the cooler months came around I had started jogging every morning to relieve the anxiety without knowing that if one has a morning cortisol issue vigorous exercise can exacerbate the problem.  My theory is that that is why I got so much worse.  Eventually I read on SA about the need for gentle exercise like walking but to avoid vigorous effort.  After I quit jogging, I started getting better.  My symptoms got better in December, and I felt emotionally strong enough to join SA at the end of the month.  I don't know when my first window was, but it might be in my thread.  It's possible I didn't even recognize it as a window at the time.  

 

I'm sorry that your doctors switched you cold from sertraline to Zyprexa.  What a mistake.  You needed to have sertraline again.  I wonder if that will ever be understood by the medical community.  You might get well quick.  People do.  (It's very irritating to me that some people never get WD or get well quickly because that seems to be part of the reason doctors are not coming to realize the danger of these drugs, but I do hope you have a shorter WD, of course.)

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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 Hi Rosetta sorry you had such a bad night last night. I hope you feel better today.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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@Rosetta thats what happens with most, they do fine for the first few months and then it hits out of no where, I know many people like that. Mine didnt, mine started the moment i took the last little bit of the zoloft. I then reinstated and got worse. I ended up in the pysch ward and thats where they ct me and put me on zyprexa but i was only on 10days before i tapered for 5 weeks. Im really praying things continue to gradually get better im glad to see that your symptoms got better as time went on as well. 

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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I think that if people knew what to look for they would see that symptoms come on earlier than they thought they had.  I think that I didn't know WD was causing a lot of different symptoms -- all symptoms of a destabilized nervous system.  The most obvious symptom was anxiety.  That kept increasing, and I kept attributing it to circumstances in my life.  I really believed that things other people were doing were irritating me.  They were, of course, but not to the extent they should have.  I became extremely sensitive.  When things people did started to scare me I started to wonder if there was something wrong with me.  

 

Of course, every time I took Xanax my condition got worse.  Then, Trazodone helped me sleep but further injured my system.  This is an incredibly insidious syndrome.  

 

Everyone here is lucky to have discovered that what we are feeling and thinking can't be attributed to the real world, at least not to the extent that we experience the effects.  I still marvel sometimes at the fact that I am here, alive.  I read here about DP and DR and SI before those feelings happened to me.  I wish I had understood about the vigorous exercise issue and avoided a lot of those experiences all together, of course!!  It's absurd isn't it?  I drug that is suppose to help one's mental health that instead makes exercise such a dangerous thing that it causes SI?  It's unbelievably Frankenstein-ish.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Rosetta i totally agree.  There isnt enough information out and so many people are suffering :(. These medications are so dangerous I will never touch another ever again. The SI is absolutely horrible the depression is extremely scary and the akasthsia I had? With urges to kill myself has been horrific. Im so greatful that atleast I know whats going on you know? I cant imagine how many people dont know and end up not being here anymore :(. HHow long after your CT did you take xanax and trazadone? Are u on anything still? Ugh im sorry your going through this too. 

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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How long did you take xanax and at what mg?

In June 2014 I was taking Celexa for 2 days, 25 mg zoloft 8 weeks, 10 mg Paxil 3 months and 10 mg Lexapro 1 month tapered off in 2 wks.. Was on a total of 6 months had side effects to them all. Went off and had my first panic attack a month later in January 2015. In March 2015 was having stomach issues and was put on Xanax for a week Dr. Said it was anxiety. End of that week woke up heart racing so was put back on Lexapro 5 MG and the next night is when my sleep got messed up. Literally not sleeping

Was it the Xanax or lexapro?? Went off sleep on and off and taking Xanax on and off. The end of April 2015 tried Buspar for 2 days and had side effects and could not sleep at all. Middle of May 2015 went on Ambien and lexapro again. Inner vibration started. Switched to paxil. Went off Ambien in June 2015 and off Paxil July 2015. October 2015 got worse went of zoloft 12.5 mg through December 2015. I was tolerating what I was going through January and February 2016. Then March got worse with horrible panic. Tried hypnotherapy in May 2016 a couple times couldn't Relax when she started counting backwards it freaked me out. Started not sleeping again in May. Went back on Xanax for 2 months May-July 2016. Tried liquid Prozac 5 mg then 10 mg side effects July - August then switched Zoloft 12.5 mg August - September 2016. Been off antidepressants since September 5, 2016. Been off Xanax since July 28, 2016, but I have taken it 8 other times since then through May 2017. Have symptoms going on with agoraphobia. Is this withdrawal??

May 2017 feeling horrible and more intense symptoms.

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44 minutes ago, Rosetta said:

It's unbelievably Frankenstein-ish

So true, Rosetta.  I feel like I now know what it feels like to be "mentally ill" as I've experienced things now and through the years I never did prior to taking medications.

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg

2020: 1/14/20: 10.89 mg (1.27% drop); 1/22/20: 10.75 mg (1.29% drop); 2/28/20 toe surgery; 4/26/20: 10.62 mg (1.21% drop); 5/3/20: 10.5 mg (1.22% drop); 5/10/20: 10.4 mg (1.24% drop); 5/17/20: 10.2 mg (1.25% drop); 6/7/20: 10.10 mg (1.27% drop); 6/14/20: 9.98 mg (1.19% drop); 6/21/20: 9.85 mg (1.30% drop); 6/28/20: 9.7 mg (1.22% drop); 7/12/20: 9.6 mg (1.23% drop); 7/19/20: 9.5 mg (1.25% drop); 7/26/20: 9.4 mg (1.26% drop); 8/2/20: 9.3 mg (1.28% drop); 8/17/20: 9.14 mg (1.19% drop); 8/31/20: 9.0 mg (1.31% drop); 9/6/20: 8.9 mg (1.22% drop); 9/27/20: 8.8 mg (1.23% drop); 10/4/20: 8.7 mg (1.25% drop); 10/11/20: 8.6 mg (1.27% drop); 10/18/20: 8.5 mg (1.28% drop); 11/8/20: 8.4 mg (1.18% drop); 11/15/20: 8.3 mg (1.19% drop); 11/22/20: 8.2 mg (1.21% drop)

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4 hours ago, Rosetta said:

I think that if people knew what to look for they would see that symptoms come on earlier than they thought they had.  I think that I didn't know WD was causing a lot of different symptoms -- all symptoms of a destabilized nervous system.  The most obvious symptom was anxiety.  That kept increasing, and I kept attributing it to circumstances in my life.  I really believed that things other people were doing were irritating me.  They were, of course, but not to the extent they should have.  I became extremely sensitive.  When things people did started to scare me I started to wonder if there was something wrong with me.  

 

Of course, every time I took Xanax my condition got worse.  Then, Trazodone helped me sleep but further injured my system.  This is an incredibly insidious syndrome.  

 

Everyone here is lucky to have discovered that what we are feeling and thinking can't be attributed to the real world, at least not to the extent that we experience the effects.  I still marvel sometimes at the fact that I am here, alive.  I read here about DP and DR and SI before those feelings happened to me.  I wish I had understood about the vigorous exercise issue and avoided a lot of those experiences all together, of course!!  It's absurd isn't it?  I drug that is suppose to help one's mental health that instead makes exercise such a dangerous thing that it causes SI?  It's unbelievably Frankenstein-ish.

I agree with too much exercise as far as worsoning symptoms.Less is better.If you do too much one day and don't sleep well that night you set yourself up for the next day to be out of it with withdrawals.You have to monitor your physical output closely.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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direstraits
15 hours ago, Rosetta said:

 This is an incredibly insidious syndrome

yes,this is a very insightful observation,Rosetta.

 

Ilook back now and realize I was probably suffering WD symptoms but attributed it to something wrong with me and that I needed to be on meds,going on and off til finally being hit with severe symptoms and thanks to this site finally realized what was happening to me.

 

I think you're doing a wonderful job with your daughter,try not to beat yourself up ...I can't imagine dealing with a young child while going through this,it's hard enough dealing with my 6 year old grandson at times!

 

sending you strength and healing vibes.

 

hugs,ds

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.

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Hi Rosetta how are you feeling today

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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@Rosetta hope your having a better day. 

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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@Rosetta I wish I had understood about the vigorous exercise issue and avoided a lot of those experiences all together, of course!!  It's absurd isn't it?  I drug that is suppose to help one's mental health that instead makes exercise such a dangerous thing that it causes SI?  It's unbelievably Frankenstein-ish.

 

Can you explain that Rosetta?  I am realizing that I feel awful and have a good day and get out and lift weights and walk and run bunch errands etc etc and then next day I feel horrible again..or a couple days later.  

 

I have been thinking about you lots and hoping last night and today have been better for you in so many ways!! 💜

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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There is only time for a quick journal entry.

 

The Akathisia that was building yesterday lessened after I went for a walk on the beach.  Sleep last night was a bit better.  I got up on time and got my daughter to the pick up location on time.  Then I walked on the beach where I dropped by husband phone in the surf without realizing it for 10 minutes.  It's gone.  That's been very, very upsetting, of course, but it was old and needed to be replaced.  I'm glad it wasn't a new phone!

 

Its been a busy day, and I'm ready to be asleep, but my body isn't.  I had to wash my daughter's hair, and I'll have to every night this week. She's playing in the ocean each day which is absolutely full of seaweed that was kicked up by a storm.  I hope I sleep well and wake feeling somewhat well. 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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 hi Rosetta I was just checking in with you to see how you were today. Looks like you had a busy day yesterday.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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Hi, Rus, Rabe, Elyssa, Direstraits, BAT,

 

Thank you for your posts.

 

I'm still in a wave.  My husband keeps reminding me that as anxious as I feel, I am definitely doing better than in the recent past.  It's been a hard day.  Anxiety did not release me until after 6:30 pm.  It was another bath night for the kiddo.  She had a white mask all along her hairline made of sunscreen and sand.

 

I have had poor sleep the last 3 nights.  I went for a long walk today.  I'm surprised how long the anxiety is hanging around today, but there's been a little stress.  There was a lot to do today, and my husband was stressed.  After a long day yesterday, today was too much.  We were out all day until 5:30.  Too long.

 

The cortisol spikes have been coming in the middle of the night 2-3 times for at least 3 nights now, and I wake up quite anxious.  I'm exhausted.  I worry so much in the night -- about wildfires, about my daughter, about being able to provide for her, about losing my husband, about getting cancer or having a terrible wreck.  It just goes on and on.  I'm awake, but it's like a very realistic dream.  I cry in the middle of the night and when I wake up.  The crying feels more natural than in the past.  I think it's because it's caused by Intense emotional symptoms instead of Akathisia.  I have had very little Akathisia the last few days.

 

Today, the worrying went on all day.  I'm so terrified I will end up losing my husband and be unable to work to care for my daughter.  I have cried twice today over that.  I would not have had a child if I had known I would be unable to work.  I really wouldn't have.  The reason I waited so long to have her was because I didn't want to be depending on someone else to bring in the income.

 

There is something very wrong with my neurotransmitters at night and even in the day  -- this intense anxiety is much, much different that the regular depression I had before meds.  I really feel that I'm living these tragedies.  At night, I want to turn on the light and have the "monsters" melt away.  Should I turn on the light?  Would that help snap me out of it?  It hurts my eyes a lot when I have to turn it on.  I'm so sensitive to light.  I don't want to be awake for hours.  So, I keep it off, but the darkness makes the waking nightmare seem all the more scary.

 

@BAT I took Xanax very intermittently for a few months at the end right before quitting Zoloft.  I was aware it was horribly addictive, so I spaced it out at least 3 days almost every time I used it.  It had a paradoxical effect in that as it wore off I became very irritable and angry.  So, I just quit using it.  Life was better with anxiety by itself rather than sleepiness followed by anger a few hours later.

 

@direstraits Thank you.  It is unbelievably hard to do this with a child.  Thanks for your compliment.  I have to hope I'm doing well enough that she'll be ok.  It's hard to know.  I'm sorry you were struggling for so long before you discovered the reason.  How many people are now or will be in that position??!!

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Rabe

 

Exercise increases cortisol.  So, when I woke up with a cortisol spike and jogged to get relief, I had relief for a while during the jog and a while after, but my cortisol would rise for hours afterward.  I had such intense anxiety I would literally scream and cry.  I wanted to tear my arms off.  I think Akathisia was the cause, and I really don't know if the exercise caused the symptoms to be so severe or whether the CT was the reason.  Maybe the Trazodone kindled me so much that I had these particularly episodes?  (I felt such guilt for scaring my daughter.  My husband would scoop her up and whisk her away.  I was utterly alone and that period of time is what Im referring to when I say that I really can't believe I have survived.  SI doesn't really describe the feeling I had.  It was some thing beyond SI.  I felt that I wanted the whole world to end as I had the conviction that no one in the world was safe from this horror.  I don't know if the exercise was the only cause of that Akathisia, but stopping the exercise was followed by the symptoms becoming bearable.  I have never tried to do more than walk again.  Can that experience tell you anything about your cause and effect, Rabe?  Maybe.  A lot of people think that having a busy day is a recipe for an increase in symptoms.  

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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  • Prozac | late 2004-mid-2005 | CT WD in a couple months, mostly emotional
  • Sertraline 50-100mg | 11/2011-3/2014, 10/2014-3/2017
  • Sertraline fast taper March 2017, 4 weeks, OFF sertraline April 1, 2017
  • Quit alcohol May 20, 2017, quit coffee October 2017, quit cannabis 😩 July 2018
  • Magnesium powder, fish oil, estradiol, kombucha, gluten/dairy/histamine-lite
  • Lifestyle changes: AA, kundalini practice

 

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jonnypeters1234567

Hi Rosetta the only things that seems to stop the akathisia coming on full force for me is to rest, no physical exercise. Also vitamin b6 seems to help. I can normally feel the akathisia building the night before and then I wake with it. I hope you geyou t some relief soon.

 

Did you get you have bad symptons around the 12 month mark?

 

 

2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems

 

Sertaline 2010- 6monnths

 

2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT

 

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Hi Rosetta...gosh I am so so sorry about the flood of emotions and thoughts that you are dealing with!  I just shake my head in sadness and disbelief over the results of these meds.  

I is hard to feel all the fears, especially that of abandonment and loss....the fear of doing this alone is overwhelming to me...but the thought of doing it alone with no support at all is beyond that.  I can understand how those kind of worries would cause such anxiety and agitation.  

Know I am thinking about you and hoping that soon this wave will also recede....hugs and prayers!!!💜

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 Viibryd 8.25 -10/18 Carafate 1/2 NOC-10/24 Viibryd 8.0, 12/6 Viibryd 7.75, K+ 10meq qd

-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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Thank you @FarmGirlWorks.  You are so sweet and caring.

 

I am better today.  I've had 4 days of walking and being out in the sunlight.  It makes such a difference.  

 

Everything is still a mess, but I'm less bothered by it.  I didn't suffer through the night nearly as much as the night before. I didn't have dystonia either!!  I feel the dystonia coming back tonight.  I am wondering if it is an either/or type of thing -- dystonia or emotional upheaval and just a bit of relief from both in between.  Dystonia only happens on the right side and Akathisia is all across my neck and shoulders, but the right side is a bit worse.  The emotional stuff is different when Akathisia is present or maybe it's just more severe.  I have no Akathisia right now, and I don't think I have had it the past few days, but the emotional despair was there.  

 

Well, what difference does it make if I knew the pattern?  None.  I'm just glad to have had a break today.  I'm trying to figure out if there is anything I can do to make the Windows last longer, of course.  Being a CT I can't hold to make that happen.  So, maybe that's why I'm analyzing the different types of emotional despair and the relationship with dystonia and Akathisia.  Maybe what I eat has an impact?  It might make sense to keep a food diary again.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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I am so glad you got a break today, Rosetta!

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg

2020: 1/14/20: 10.89 mg (1.27% drop); 1/22/20: 10.75 mg (1.29% drop); 2/28/20 toe surgery; 4/26/20: 10.62 mg (1.21% drop); 5/3/20: 10.5 mg (1.22% drop); 5/10/20: 10.4 mg (1.24% drop); 5/17/20: 10.2 mg (1.25% drop); 6/7/20: 10.10 mg (1.27% drop); 6/14/20: 9.98 mg (1.19% drop); 6/21/20: 9.85 mg (1.30% drop); 6/28/20: 9.7 mg (1.22% drop); 7/12/20: 9.6 mg (1.23% drop); 7/19/20: 9.5 mg (1.25% drop); 7/26/20: 9.4 mg (1.26% drop); 8/2/20: 9.3 mg (1.28% drop); 8/17/20: 9.14 mg (1.19% drop); 8/31/20: 9.0 mg (1.31% drop); 9/6/20: 8.9 mg (1.22% drop); 9/27/20: 8.8 mg (1.23% drop); 10/4/20: 8.7 mg (1.25% drop); 10/11/20: 8.6 mg (1.27% drop); 10/18/20: 8.5 mg (1.28% drop); 11/8/20: 8.4 mg (1.18% drop); 11/15/20: 8.3 mg (1.19% drop); 11/22/20: 8.2 mg (1.21% drop)

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@jonnypeters1234567 I did get worse symptoms sometime between the 12 month mark and the 17 month mark.  I think that the wave started around month 13 or 14.  It's in my thread, and it lasted a long time with many one or two day Windows.  Then, I finally had my first longer window in month 15 or 16.  There was a bad wave during the 11th month, too.  That was horrid.  I think that was in January or February.  (Mid -February is my anniversary of CT.)

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Thank you @wantrelief!!

 

Thank you @Rabe.  How awful are these drugs?!  I never, ever felt this bad before these drug.  I almost laugh when I think about the emotional turmoil that drove me to take these damn pills.  That was child's play!

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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direstraits
3 minutes ago, Rosetta said:

 

  I almost laugh when I think about the emotional turmoil that drove me to take these damn pills.  That was child's play!

AMEN!!

xx

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.

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Rosetta. I just wanted to wish you a good day today I hope you're feeling okay.

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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@Rosetta just checking in! Hope today is a better day💓

13 months on 25 mg of sertraline.

Fast taper in march 2018, reinstated 12.5mg

Cold turkey sertraline april 17,2018

Zyprexa 5mg april 17,2018

Zyprexa taper to lamictal May 4-13 (life threatening rash)

Back on zyprexa 5mg for 10days & tapered over 5 weeks.

21 months off sertraline 

19 months off zyprexa

22 months into withdrawl 

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@RusTW @Elyssa143. Thank you.  It was a pretty good day.  

 

I woke up today as I did yesterday -- with a cortisol spike and the attendant anxiety.  This morning I felt stressed about my messy house.  I realized later in the day that it was the 7th anniversary of my grandfather's death last week.  I was thinking of him, and my grandmother who died 20 years ago, a lot last week, but I don't look at a calendar every day.  I really don't know what day it is other than Monday or so on.  Today's anxiety was more focused on the future than the past.

 

I had some dystonia in the night, but it wasn't too bad.  It didn't come back until I started to read here.

 

I went for a long walk today.  Then, I did something I haven't done in at least 2 years -- I swam in the ocean!!!  I have been too anxious to do that even once the last two summers!!!  It was amazing.  It could have been a disaster as I touched a jelly fish or some kind of transparent fish, but it happened to be the kind that doesn't sting. Whew!

 

We have decided that my daughter will go to camp next week.  I wanted her home with me for a week in between each camp, but every time we have one of those weeks my symptoms get worse.  That makes me so sad, but the time I spend with her is better when I have my exercise and she has her exercise and time with other kids.  I realize now that it's not how much time I spend with her, but the change in my sleep patterns and routine when we have "leisurely" mornings for a whole week. There's no such thing as leisurely for me right now.  I need to get up and move every morning in order to stay sane.  I need a strict routine, and I can't make myself follow one without an outside structure right now.  Getting my daughter to camp every morning gives me that structure. I'll have to take her out one day in order to spend time with her.

 

Being at home is so toxic for me.  How sad.  I feel better when I'm out most of the day.  That has never been my personality.  I have always loved being at home and felt so relaxed there.  Now that I can't relax, I can't be at home.  Very frustrating.

 

 

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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That's so great you went swimming.I'm happy for you.Its good your walking too.I am the same about staying away from the house.I always feel worse at home.During my windows later in the night I watch utube videos its the only time I'm comfortable at home.I miss that too being ok at home in the day.Someday☺we can.good hearing from ya.Hope ya sleep well.   Rus

March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days

UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia.

August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only.

Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning

May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/

Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose

Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2  ativan 1mg a month as needed if that.

Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin

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  • ChessieCat changed the title to Rosetta: cold switch May 2011 & too fast taper Feb 2017

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