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I have been on cymbalta for 14yrs.  Over a year ago my GP said in order to get off I had to take it every other day for a while and then quit.  I went into horrible withdrawals months later.  A psychiatrist put me back on it now I am tapering.  I am at 16.75mg and I cannot handle the withdrawals.  Many have said to bridge to prozac.  Will that work for someone like me who's nervous system is so screwed up?

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Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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Hello, Keri, and welcome to SA.  I have moved your post to our Introductions and Updates section.
 
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It is little wonder that you had terrible withdrawal systems trying to taper taking Cymbalta every other day.  The half-lives of almost all psychiatric drugs are too short for this to make any sense. It causes the amount of the medication in your bloodstream to go up and down, battering your nervous system, and makes withdrawal worse.  It is like playing ping-pong with your brain.

Your brain likes stability, to be treated gently.  It is ideal if you can accommodate it to lower and lower dosages. Move it slowly down a ramp by gradually decreasing dosage by an amount it may hardly notice. SA recommends tapering by 10% of your current dose with a hold of at least 4 weeks before your next decrease.The 10% taper method is a harm reduction approach to going off psychiatric drugs.
 This is explained in the attached link:

 
 
A Prozac bridge is a possibility, and I have quoted at length below from a post from Alto, our administrator, about the pros and cons of a switch to Prozac. 
But before taking that route, please consider tapering your Cymbalta more slowly.  Please let us know the rate you've been tapering Cymbalta.  Even 10% per month is too much for some people.  I would work with a slower taper first to see if that works before switching to Prozac.
 
Some options that are good for people who have very sensitive nervous systems:
 
To get you familiarized with the protocols followed by SA, I am linking a few topics so that you have a better understanding of what is recommended here. 

 

 

PROZAC BRIDGE by Altostrata

 

Switching or bridging with another drug, usually of a longer half-life, is a recognized way to get off antidepressants, particularly those that people find difficult to taper.
 
Many people with failed tapers from venlafaxine (Effexor), desvenlafaxine (Pristiq), paroxetine (Paxil), and duloxetine (Cymbalta) find they need to bridge in order to go off the drug.
 
Fluoxetine (Prozac) has the longest half-life of any of the modern antidepressants. Because it takes about a week for a dose to be metabolized completely, if a switch to fluoxetine is successful -- that is, does not cause withdrawal symptoms from the original drug -- a careful taper off fluoxetine is easier for most people -- see information about Tapering off Prozac. And, at least fluoxetine comes in a liquid.
 
(Citalopram or Celexa and its sibling escilatopram or Lexapro have half-lives of about 35 hours, a relatively long half-life among SSRIs, and are other candidates for a bridging strategy. They also come in a liquid form. The drawbacks and advantages of switching to another drug to get off the first drug, described below, apply to a switch to citalopram or escilatopram as well as fluoxetine.)
 
While going off fluoxetine usually has less risk, one might still develop withdrawal symptoms going off fluoxetine. No bridging strategy is risk-free.
 
You must find a knowledgeable doctor to help you to with a bridging strategy. You might wish to print this post out to discuss it with your doctor.
 
When to switch or bridge
A direct taper from the drug to which your nervous system is accustomed carries less risk than a switch to a new drug. You may have a bad reaction to a new drug, or the substitution may not work to forestall withdrawal symptoms. This is the "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know" rule.
 
The risk of a switch is justified if you find a  taper from the original drug is simply too difficult. Usually people will do a switch when they find reducing the original antidepressant by even a small amount -- 10% or even 5% -- causes intolerable withdrawal symptoms. (I have heard doctors say they don't even try tapering off Effexor and Paxil, they do the Prozac switch from the beginning.)

 

Sometimes when people go down to a low dose of an antidepressant (such as paroxetine), they find further reduction is very difficult. Substituting a longer-acting SSRI such as fluoxetine may be worth the risk.

If you're thinking of switching simply as a matter of convenience, you need to weigh the risks against the amount of convenience you would gain. Generally, switching for convenience is a bad idea.

Risks of bridging
For most people the switch goes smoothly but for some it doesn't. A bridging strategy has the following drawbacks for a minority of those who try it:

  • Adverse reaction to the bridge drug, such as Prozac.
  • Dropping the first antidepressant in the switch causes withdrawal symptoms even though you're taking a bridge drug.
  • If withdrawal symptoms are already underway, switching to a bridge drug doesn't help
  • Difficulty tapering off the bridge drug. All of the bridge drugs can be difficult to taper themselves.

So, like anything else, the Prozac switch is not guaranteed to work. But if you are having intolerable withdrawal from another antidepressant, it may be worth risking the worst case in the Prozac switch: It doesn't help and you have withdrawal syndrome anyway.

 

CAUTION: A switch to a bridge drug is not guaranteed to work. It's safer to slow down a taper than count on a switch. A switch really should be used only when a taper becomes unbearable or there are other serious adverse effects from the medication. You must work with a doctor who is familiar with bridging, in case you develop severe symptoms.

 
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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.   

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8mg and shift to Imipramine taper

Aug. 5, 2022: shift back to Valium taper.  

Current dose as of Oct. 20, 2022: 3.2mg

Taper is 83% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Aug. 5: 9.5mg 

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5 and shift to Valium taper

Taper is 87% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Keri -- Welcome to Surviving Antidepressants (SA)!

 

I started my journey off Cymbalta in early January 2016, almost 2 years ago exactly. I had similar counterproductive medical advice about alternating doses and large dose reductions.  Once I found this site, I increased my dose a bit, held there for a month to stabilize then counted beads from my Cymbalta capsules to discontinue. I started at 20 mg (approx. 185 beads/day) and worked my way down to zero. I figure I counted more than 38,000 of the suckers! :o You can read my introduction at the link in my signature.

 

Please read the information Gridley posted for you -- carefully and often.  I didn't get as far down in dosage as you are before I noticed a problem. Sometimes being sensitive to medication has an upside.
 

Let us know what you choose and how you're doing.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results

Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


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Thank you so much.  This site is wonderful and so full of information.  I am tapering using a compounding pharmacy by 1/4 to 1/2 mg each month or so.  Which comes to about 3% or less. I still cannot get stable.  I feel brain damaged from the every other day thing. 

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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The least risky thing to do is to stay at your current dose.  Give your CNS (central nervous system) time to catch up to your current dose. Have a look at the first post in the How your brain responds to psychiatric drugs - aka "Brain remodeling"  topic.  It's given many people a useful way to understand what's going on with their symptoms.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results

Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


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I am only dropping 1.5 to 3% every 3 to 6 weeks.  The withdrawals I get are awful.  

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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Many people have found holding for a long time, 3 months or more, works to settle things down.  Doing that allows you to see what symptoms are "withdrawal normal" and then when you start to reduce dose again you can identify what symptoms arise and when because of the reduction.

 

Are you keeping track of your symptoms? If not it may help you -- keep notes on paper of your symptoms and the times of your dose(s). This post has a useful format for a daily log:

Take notes of doses and symptoms.

 

During my taper I used an excel version of a daily list of symptoms found in the first post of this topic:

Glenmullen’s withdrawal symptom list.

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results

Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


scallywag's Introduction
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Would bridging to something else help me get off this stuff?

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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I have been tapering 1 to 3% every 3 to 6 weeks to get off duloxetine.  I feel like I am having drug induced anxiety. Any help or advice please.  I need to get off asap or I will have a heart attack 

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Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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On 1/5/2018 at 4:40 PM, Keri said:

I have been tapering 1 to 3% every 3 to 6 weeks to get off duloxetine.  I feel like I am having drug induced anxiety. Any help or advice please.  I need to get off asap or I will have a heart attack 

I don't know anything about tapering Duloxetibe.  I just read your post about anxiety and want to offer you some words of hope and encouragement.  Sometimes eating yogurt or drinking milk or taking a warm shower helps my anxiety.  I hope you find some relief.  Sending good thoughts of healing.

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Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Unless you are having an adverse reaction to a medication, it's best to follow the advice given about going on a date "Dance with the one who came with you." Translation for psych meds withdrawal situations: taper off the drug you started.  Crossovers can work, can take more time than expected to work while making things worse for a short time, and can make things worse period.  If you can manage your life with your current symptoms, it's best to stay at your current dose and gradually taper down.

 

What are your current symptoms?  Is there a pattern to them within a day, or from day to day?

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This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results

Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


scallywag's Introduction
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I am living in a constant state of anxiety.  I am fatigued, I have the shakes, and just feel awful.  I reinstated Way outside the window after an every other day taper.  I can't stabilize no matter how long I hold.  I have held for months at times.  This is ridiculous.  I need relief 

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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Keri, I'm really sorry no one has responded to your post.  Perhaps they just don't know what to advise.  And, perhaps this website just doesn't get much traffic. I've noticed that sometimes I don't get responses for a very long time.  Everyone is busy, I suppose. 

 

If you are still miserable, I certainly would investigate bridging to Prozac as nothing else has helped.  I bridged from Ativan to Valium and did so much better on the Valium....it was impossible for me to taper Ativan due to the short half life.  Cymbalta also has a short half life, so perhaps crossing to Prozac would help.  You may still have Cymbalta withdrawal symptoms, though.  No way to know unless you try. 

 

2016-Aug-Prescribed 2 mg Ativan & 10 mg Ambien; Oct-c/o from 20 mg Lexapro to 60 mg Cymbalta; Nov-Dec-Tapered off 10 mg Ambien    

2017-Jan-Feb c/o from 1.75 mg Ativan to 13 mg Valium & begin daily liquid micro taper; May-taper Cymbalta 60 mg to 48 mg with severe withdrawals.  Begin 11 month Cymbalta hold.

2018-Jan 11 completed Valium taper; Apr-Resume Cymbalta taper.  Interval dose progress: Apr 43 mg; May 40 mg; Jul 35 mg; Sep 29 mg; Dec 21 mg; 

2019- Apr 14 mg; Jun 11 mg; Aug 9 mg; Oct 7 mg; Nov 6 mg

2020-Jan 5.2 mg; Feb 4.8 mg; Mar 4.3 mg; Apr 3.9 mg; May 3.5 mg; Jun 3.3 mg; Jul 2.9 mg; Aug 2.7 mg; 28 Sep 2.4 mg/12 beads; 25 Oct 2.2 mg/11 beads; 22 Nov 2.0 mg/10 beads; 20 Dec 1.8 mg/9 beads

2021- 17 Jan 1.6 mg/8 beads; 14 Feb 1.4 mg/7 beads; 18 Mar 1.2 mg/6 beads; 18 Apr 1.0 mg/5 beads; 16 May

0.8 mg/4 beads; 13 Jun 0.6 mg/3 beads; 11 Jul 0.5 mg/2 beads; 8 Aug .03 mg/1 bead; 5 Sep 0 mg.

Brutal, agonizing, slow 4.5 year Cymbalta taper completed as of 5 Sep 2021.  100% psych drug free.  

 

 

 

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Thank you!

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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How are you feeling, now, Keri?  Have you been able to taper any more beads?  My heart goes out to you as I know what a rat poison of a drug Cymbalta is.  I will resume my taper of the remaining 48 mg as soon as I've recovered sufficiently from my recently completed benzo taper. 

 

2016-Aug-Prescribed 2 mg Ativan & 10 mg Ambien; Oct-c/o from 20 mg Lexapro to 60 mg Cymbalta; Nov-Dec-Tapered off 10 mg Ambien    

2017-Jan-Feb c/o from 1.75 mg Ativan to 13 mg Valium & begin daily liquid micro taper; May-taper Cymbalta 60 mg to 48 mg with severe withdrawals.  Begin 11 month Cymbalta hold.

2018-Jan 11 completed Valium taper; Apr-Resume Cymbalta taper.  Interval dose progress: Apr 43 mg; May 40 mg; Jul 35 mg; Sep 29 mg; Dec 21 mg; 

2019- Apr 14 mg; Jun 11 mg; Aug 9 mg; Oct 7 mg; Nov 6 mg

2020-Jan 5.2 mg; Feb 4.8 mg; Mar 4.3 mg; Apr 3.9 mg; May 3.5 mg; Jun 3.3 mg; Jul 2.9 mg; Aug 2.7 mg; 28 Sep 2.4 mg/12 beads; 25 Oct 2.2 mg/11 beads; 22 Nov 2.0 mg/10 beads; 20 Dec 1.8 mg/9 beads

2021- 17 Jan 1.6 mg/8 beads; 14 Feb 1.4 mg/7 beads; 18 Mar 1.2 mg/6 beads; 18 Apr 1.0 mg/5 beads; 16 May

0.8 mg/4 beads; 13 Jun 0.6 mg/3 beads; 11 Jul 0.5 mg/2 beads; 8 Aug .03 mg/1 bead; 5 Sep 0 mg.

Brutal, agonizing, slow 4.5 year Cymbalta taper completed as of 5 Sep 2021.  100% psych drug free.  

 

 

 

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Keri 

Sorry you are still struggling.

I assume you are on duloxetine alone and not adding benzos or friends.

Were you stable at the 20mg before you started to taper ?

It would be helpful to put the dates in the drug sig when you did your drops. 

 

On ‎1‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 10:40 AM, Keri said:

I need to get off asap or I will have a heart attack 

 Who has said this the doctor? Why do you think this?

I like SW's term 'Dance with the one you came with' it is so true. 

Any switch is high risk.

nz11

 

 

 

 

 

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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I am actually doing much better after my last drop. It's almost like my body needed for me to drop in order to feel better. Strange. But my next drop is next week and I'm nervous again.  I think I will keep slowly dropping on duloxetine until I need to stop and hold again.  Thanks for all the replies 

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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Well just goes to show what an extra 2-3 week hold can do.

Great news 

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Keri any update?

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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  • ChessieCat changed the title to Keri: Stuck on cymbalta - does prozac bridge work?

I am doing okay.  I am doing a micro taper and still have some withdrawals.  I think a lot of my problem is that I took it every other day for 6 months then stopped and months later reinstated.  I think my brain is damaged beyond repair.  I will just keep doing what I'm doing and hope for the best.  I don't understand how to put my med history in the sig section 

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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I am tapering duloxetine cymbalta and stuck at 14.5mg.  I can’t even drop one bead.  I am extremely kindled.  Should I try to add in 5mg of prozac and keep tapering.  

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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Keri, when was your last decrease? How much was it? Did you feel better before that decrease?

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I have a weird story.  I was on it 14yrs. In 2016 my doctor told me to alternate days.  I did this for 6 months.  Then stopped. Went into withdrawals and they put me on Trintellix for 2 months.  Had a reaction then stopped cold turkey. Then went back on cymbalta a month later.  Tried to stabilize and started slow tapering.  I don’t think I have felt good for 2yrs.  I feel as if I am now toxic to the cymbalta. It seems I just feel bad no matter what I do.  Would adding in 5mg of prozac and continue with my taper help?  I am literally micro tapering and only dropping one bead and having problems 

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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Hi @Keri how did this go for you?

- 2003 to 2015: celexa, 20 mg, ~12 years

- 2015: easy switch off celexa and onto cymbalta, 30mg

     (over a decade of fantastic years in here, with one anxiety/depressive episode brought on by a breakup, which I got through with therapy, tools, etc)

- 2017: Nov/December: tapered off cymbalta, 20mg --> 0, over 1.5 mo. in conjunction with my (former) psychiatrist. Zero date: 12/15/17

     (I was just sort of curious to try being off meds after so many (great) years. I wondered the degree to which meds may have been affecting my sex drive/orgasm/access to deeper emotions. After going off was ok for about 3 mo... then: horrible anxiety, panic attacks (first time in 14 years and way stronger than I ever had before), agitation, suicidal depression, crushing physical sensation, anhedonia, dp/dr, emotional numbness. Horrible.)

- 2018, July 21: Tried going back on celexa, 5mg

    (HORRIBLE adverse reaction, discontinued after 10 days, stopped 7/31/18, thought I would need to be hospitalized)

- 2018, Aug 3: Tried remeron, got up to 15mg for 14 days, then tapered back down to 3.5 mg/d (super sedating, couldn't think and could feel even less)

- 2018, Sept 7 - Oct: Restarted Cymbalta, ~4mg (sept 9, stopped the 3.5 mg of remeron). Went up to 13 mg Cymbalta, then right back down to 4.5mg.

    (Now see it as withdrawal and am wanting to get off and heal.)

 

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I never did it.  I’m still slow tapering the cymbalta 

Duloxetine 20 mg 2004 to June 2016.  

Duloxetine 20 every other day, then every 2 days, etc.  Ended January 2017

Trintelix April 1, 2017 to April 20, 2017

Duloxetine 30mg 5/31/17 to 6/20/17

Duloxetibe 20mg 6/21/17 to present

slow tapering currently at 16.75mg

xanax .25 off and on during 2016 to August 2017

Currently taking fish oil, magnesium 

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