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20 years on effexor and buspiron due to depression - anxiety.  One year on lamotrigin.

I started tapering in 2016 because of adverse effect. Effexor 150 mg to 75 mg by addwise from doc. No problems. Next on 37,5 and hell broke loose. Reinstated on 75 and kept it there. While tapering I was sat on lamotrigin 300 mg over a couple of month. 

No effect! Started tapering buspiron 10 mg x 2 august 2017 and is know on 6+6 

Started tapering lamotrigin nov  2017 and is now on200 mg. 

After reading here I got in doubt. Am I tapering in the best way? Recomondation?

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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I am currently tapering from Buspiron and lamotrigin

August 2017: from 10 mgx2 to reducing 5 10 % until Nov. 2017 Paused due to starting tapering lamotrigin

January 3th reducing 1,5 mg to 6 mg x 2 

Nov 10 2017 Lamotrigin from 300 mg x 1 reducing 50 mg to 250 for 4 weeks and then

Dec 10 2017  lamotrigin from 250 mg x 1 reducing 50 mg to 200 mg -

january 17 Currently still on 200 mg x 1

 

2007: Started effexor XR 75 mg

2017 started buspiron 10 mg x2

 

June 2016 major anxiety and depression due to loosing my job

June started lamotrigin  and over the summer was titrated up to 300 mg

 

Now after I have read the files on witch med to taper first ( AD) and that lamotrigin could reduce withdrawal symptoms I need som advise on witch to taper first.

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Hi HAa,

 

Welcome to SA.  Sorry for the delay in approving your posts.  SA is staffed by volunteers (unrostered).  I'm about to head off to work, so I will give you some links below to get you started.

 

I have merged your new topic here.  Each member has their own intro topic where they can ask questions and journal their progress.

 

Here are the instructions for the drug signature, which we request all members to do when they join.  This is the preferred format:

 

A request: Would you summarize your history in a signature - ALL drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly?

  • Please leave out symptoms and diagnoses.
  • A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs. 
  • Any drugs prior to 24 months ago can just be listed with start and stop years.
  • Please use actual dates or approximate dates (mid-June, Late October) rather than relative time frames (last week, 3 months ago)
  • Spell out months, e.g. "October" or "Oct."; 9/1/2016 can be interpreted as Jan. 9, 2016 or Sept. 1, 2016.
  • Link to Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

Important topics in the Tapering forum and FAQ

 

Taking multiple psych drugs? Which drug to taper first?
If you're not having an adverse reaction from the other medications, taper the most activating drug first. This is usually an antidepressant or stimulant (ADHD drug).


Dr Joseph Glenmullen's Withdrawal Symptoms

 

Brain Remodelling


Video:  Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery

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Thank you so much :-) I really appreciate it.

I will try to write my meds and dosis that way.

Multiple drugs:

I am unsure if BusPar is a brake?

If so I should pause taper this and instead taper Effexor XR.

And pause on tapering lamotrigin as well?

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Welcome, HAa, we need to know exactly what you're taking now, the dosages, and when you take each drug.

 

How have you been tapering lamotrigine and Buspar? (They are both brakes.)

 

Please stop tapering for now.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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HAa

I have tried to write my introduction and signature 

I need Helt to understand the explanation on how to do it so that I can get started getting help

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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HAa

I have tried to write my introduction and signature 

I need Helt to understand the explanation on how to do it so that I can get started getting help

 

cc has explained it above -18 jan post -very nicely what part of it don't you understand. Are you able to click on the blue link??

 

Gentle reminder only one intro thread per person. That's the rule of the site. Their are good reasons for this. 

Reason: We are trying to save ink. 

 

Welcome to sa. 

So glad that you found us.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Thank you so much

i think that I clicked on the link and wrote a list of my medication. 12 lines max and I could not find the introduction where I wrote my story. 

I have tried to make the introduction and the signature. But I don’t know what I have done wrong as I have had one who answered and she asked me to make a signature. I thought I had made one. I cannot find the introduction I made som weeks ago. 

Did you see my introduction and signature.?

and are they two different things?

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Hello, Haa,

 

According to your signature,  you are tapering Effexor at a rate of 20% per month.  That is too fast and can result in some difficult withdrawal symptoms.

At Surviving Antidepressants, it is recommended that a person taper by no more than 10% of their current dose with at least a four week hold in-between decreases.  The 10% taper recommendation is a harm reduction approach to going off psychiatric drugs.  Some people may have to taper at a more conservative rate as they are sensitive to even the smallest drops.  
  
To get you started, and familiarized with the protocols followed by SA, I am linking a few topics so that you have a better understanding of what is recommended here. 
 
If I am reading your signature correctly, you are also tapering Buspiron.  As Alto wrote above, please stop tapering Buspiron.  We recommend tapering only one drug at a time, in your case that would be the more activating drug, Effexor.  Buspiron is a brake and can help you with your Effexor taper.  Also, if you taper more than one drug at a time, it will be difficult to identify the cause of any problem that may arise during your taper.
 
This is your introduction topic -- the place for you to ask questions, record symptoms, share your progress, and connect with other members of the SA community. I hope you'll find the information in the SA forums helpful for your situation. I'm sorry that you are in the position that you need the information, but I am glad that you found us.
 
 
 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg

Taper is 90% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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I see you have now have a signature... look forward to reading your introduction. 

200 Zoloft; 10 mg Zyprexa; 4 mg valium as of May 2021;  Valium taper: July 16: 3.5 valium; July 30: 3 mg (paused valium taper); Aug. 23: 2.5 mg
Zyprexa: July 26: 8.75 mg; Aug. 9: 7.5 mg; Aug. 30: 7.1 mg

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Dec 1, 2016. 10 mg zyprexa for 1.5 month. Started taper mid-Jan. 2017. Cut 1.25 mg every 2 weeks; smaller cuts 2.5 mg down. Stopped at .6 mg. May 7, 2017: zyprexa free. 
Zoloft: Dec1, 2016, 200 mg. Started taper: Jun12, 2017: 197.5 mg; Jun19,:195 mg; July 2:185mg; July 9,:180 mg; July16,: 175; July 23: 170; July 30: 165; Aug6: 160; Aug13: 155; Aug. 20: 150; Aug.27: 146 mg; Sept3: 145 mg; Sept10:143 mg; Sept17:140 mg....Nov5: 122 mg...Dec3:112.5 mg; Jan14, 2018: 95 mg...Jan28: 90 mg; Feb21:80 mg; Mar11: 75 mg; May2:70 mg; May15: 68 mg; May28: 65 mg; Jun9: 62 mg;Jun25: 60 mg:July22: 55 mg; Aug25: 45 mg. Aug28: 50 mg...Oct 28: 38 mg; Dec.4: 30 mg; Jan8,2019: 25mg; Feb6: 23.5 mg; Apr1:17.5mg; May1:1 mg; May 5: 18;  May 18:15mg; June 16:12.5mg; Sept 10:11 mg; Sept.16:10 mg; Oct. 1: 9mg; Nov. 27: 8mg; Dec.5: 7mg; Jan.1,2020, 6 mg; Feb1: 5 mg; May 1: 2.5 mg; Jn 1: 2 mg; Jy 1: 1.5 mg

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21 hours ago, nz11 said:

 

cc has explained it above -18 jan post -very nicely what part of it don't you understand. Are you able to click on the blue link??

 

Gentle reminder only one intro thread per person. That's the rule of the site. Their are good reasons for this. 

Reason: We are trying to save ink. 

 

Welcome to sa. 

So glad that you found us.

Thank you very much. Next tapering I will reduce Effexor with 10%

Should I also stop tapering lamotrigin and stick to just tapering Effexor? 

I was concerned just tapering one at a time because I read that the ratio between them also matters in how the tapering would give withdrawal symptoms .

 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Well done on having a go at the drug sig.

You know what i think we can improve it a little.

You might like to change 26.1 to 26 Jan as it makes it clearer 

What drug is 10mg x2 from 2007...? I'm sorry I'm a bit slow at picking things up. Actually its buspirone isn't it  but i had to go searching to find it. Which is why it is great to spell it out in the drug sig. Rather than a post  4 pages prior say. Don't worry i know you didn't post it 4 pages prior ...but in three years it could be 4 pages prior and buried.

 

The easy to follow  drug sig have ; date, dose , drug. And when there is a change in dose it is noted with the date.

 

When did you start oxapax? haven't heard of that one ...is it oxazepam? . How long have you been taking this as needed? two months ? 2 years? 5 years?

 

What does 6+6,5 mean? 12.5 mg ? When did you start this drug....1 Jan 2004? 

 

The main idea for tapering one at a time, is if you taper more than one drug and have withdrawal reactions we have a problem...who caused it.

Who needs an updose?

 

1 hour ago, HAa said:

I read that the ratio between them also matters in how the tapering would give withdrawal symptoms .

 

I don't know so much. This is a bit over my head. But if you have a reference i'll gladly read it.

 

All these psych drugs have  withdrawal reactions that's a given regardless of whom they hold hands with and in what ratio to whom. 

And who knows whose holding hands more tightly to whom  and who knows whose the  most  unhappy camper when it comes time for newfound friends big or small to have to say goodbye. 

Polypharmacy is very scary imo.

Drug-drug interactions haven't been studied extensively.

Question: Does pharma care? Answer: What do you think?

 

Drug induced injuries are now the fourth leading course of death in hospital settings. And it cold be argued says Healy that they are the greatest single source of disability in the developed  world.

The people we trust with our health are (k)illing us. 

 

There are some people who see-saw down.

You could read the tapering multiple drugs thread.

Did you have a read of this thread from cc

Taking multiple psych drugs? Which drug to taper first?

 

 As suggested to you i think just hold on the tapering until this is sorted:

On ‎1‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 4:54 PM, Altostrata said:

...we need to know exactly what you're taking now, the dosages, and when you take each drug.

 

How have you been tapering lamotrigine and Buspar? (They are both brakes.)

 

Please stop tapering for now.

 

.

nz11

 

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Yes, stop tapering both lamotrigine and Buspiron.  

Edited by Gridley

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg

Taper is 90% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Thank you. I really apresiate you help.

I went up 0,5 mg buspiron Yesterday to the dosis I was on last week 6+6,5 and it gave some releafe. Hope I will stabilize again in a few days as the anxiety skyrocket after I did the reduction. Wish I hadn’t reduced Buspiron together with reducing Effexor. Oh it hurts to learn the hard way.

I will just reduce Effexor and only 10% next time which I will do in a month if I have stabilized by then

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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1997 I startes Effexor 75 mg xr mornings and buspiron 10 mg x2 

2010 up Effexor xr to  150mg due to increased anxiety 

 

My tapering started in 2016 June advised by a Psyk. I felt medicin intoxicated and had read the over time the mess could start having adversed effekt as I surely was experiencing. 

 

June 2016

effexor from 150 to 75 mg 

starting at the same time lamotrigin tittering up with 25 mg every other week

After one month Effexor was reduced to 35,7 mg and I tilted within a week and went back on 75 mg. 

Oktober 2016 mirtazepin was added which made it all worse

January 2017

I was put on lithium wich I could not tolererate 

Marts

buspiron was reduced from 10x2 to 5x3 and I was hospitalized due to suizide  impulses. 

 

Mirtazepin and lithium was sep.

 

August 2017

Buspiron taper started from 10x 2 reducing by 10 % a month and a pause for 2 month on 7x2

November 17. 2017

lamotringin was reduced by 50 mg from 300mg 

december 10 2017

lamotrigin reduced by 50 mg to 200 mg which is my current dosis. 

 

January 5 2018

buspiron reduced from 7+7 to 6+6,5

 

january 18 2018

effexor xr was reduced from 75 mg to 60 mg

 

january 21 buspiron was reduced by 0,5 mg to 6+6 mg

january 27. Buspiron increased back to 6+6 mg

 

currently meds 

18.1 effexor 60mg 8 am

26.1 buspiron 6+6,5 at 8 am + 6 PM

10.12. Lamotrigin 200 mg at 8 am 

 

2016

oxazepam  7,5 mg max x2 dayly as needed. 

I have taken 7,5 mg oxazepam x1-2 for 3-4 days in connection to the medicin reductions.. 

Please tell me if I should write it diffently. 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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No further tapering as you advise . I will stay on the above listed meds 

So good of you to take your time to help us  in this med mess 

 

looking forward hearing if there is anything else I should consider and do differently. 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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HAa, please be careful with the oxapax, which is a benzo.  If you get into the habit of taking it regularly, you can become dependent (addicted) in 2 weeks.  If you need it, you should definitely space out your doses.  Your signature says maximum 3-5 per month, and I wouldn't take more.

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Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg

Taper is 90% complete.  

  

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3 hours ago, HAa said:

I have stoped tapering and will stick to the current medication ontil further 

I will stay on the above listed meds 

So good of you to take your time to help us  in this med mess 

 

2 hours ago, Gridley said:

HAa, please be careful with the oxapax, which is a benzo.  If you get into the habit of taking it regularly, you can become dependent (addicted) in 2 weeks.  If you need it, you should definitely space out your doses.  Your signature says maximum 3-5 per month, and I wouldn't take more.

I will. I have bin very carefull to only use it when anxiety due to withdrawel was unbearable. That is another reason for me finding you in order to hopefully being able to taper weiser and hopefully getting less withdrawel symptoms. As far my experience have showed that I might be one of those who will have to go extremely slowly. It is catch twenty two as the Effexor or BusPar now are having adversed effects. So which is which? I do know that when I taper I will have a period of one to two weeks where the anxiety increases extremly.

 

is there a topic where people here discus, share and comfort.

As of now I am doing all the right things conserning diet, exercise, sleep omega 3 and magnesium.. Massage walks connection with my close friends ect.

Other ideers would be wellcome 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Sorry. I found that here is a lot of forums concerning how to cope and where I can ask ect. 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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HAa, you're in the right place. You might want to post here in your Intro topic until you understand the site layout. Please click "Follow" at the top right to get notifications of comments in this topic.

 

What symptoms did you get when you reduced your drugs? How are you feeling now?

 

What times of day do you take each of your drugs, and what dosages? What does lamotrigine do for you?

 

When did you start taking buspirone? What effect does it have on you? Why did you decide to reduce it with the Effexor?

 

 

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12 hours ago, Altostrata said:

HAa, you're in the right place. You might want to post here in your Intro topic until you understand the site layout. Please click "Follow" at the top right to get notifications of comments in this topic.

 

What symptoms did you get when you reduced your drugs? How are you feeling now?

 

What times of day do you take each of your drugs, and what dosages? What does lamotrigine do for you?

 

When did you start taking buspirone? What effect does it have on you? Why did you decide to reduce it with the Effexor?

 

 

HAa Perhaps I by mistanke have two introduktions? If so please could the be joined?

When i in august 2017 started reducin buspiron by 10% the anxiety got really bad. 

Some upset stomeage and Aleppo disturbens.

Nov 10 I pausede for 1 month and A half months while tapering lamotrigin by 50 mg to 250 and again 50mg Down 3 weeks koster to 200 mg

I take buspiron at 8 oclock in the morning and at 6 PM 

I take lamotrigin at 8 in the morning

And I take effexor 75 mg at 8 oclok 

 

I was put on lamotrigin because of rapid moodsvings and was told it should take the downs. But I was only down because the anxiety was getting worse . So it do not do anything for mig now. Of cause I do not know how I would have it now if I did not get it. 

 

I started buspiron and Effexor in 1997

at the dosis 

effexor 75 mg mornings

buspiron 10 mg mornings and 10 mg evenings

 

i started tapering because I got more and more anxiety and had thoughts of killing my self and bad sleepdisturbs - waking up every other hour.

 

Then I read here in SA that I should tapering Effexor xr first and that was when I wrote to you and stop tapering the buspiron and lamotrigin

and started tapering Effexor xr 

I reduced first time 18. Jan from 75 mg to 60 mg by counting beats. 

Is it too late to up dosis to 67,5 mg now?

21. Jam I by mistake reduced buspiron by 0,5 mg to 6 mg mornings and 6, mg evenings. 

This dosis I was on for 5 days. Then I returned to 6 mg 8 mornings and 6,5 mg 6 o clock evenings .

 

Curently I have unbearable anxiety - crying spells and sleep and wake up serveltimes during the night

i have no appetite and eat because I know I must.

Thank you for being here. 

 

 

Edited by HAa

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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You can updose now if you want. You might try just a little more, how about 62.5mg?

 

You take 200mg lamotrigine at 8 a.m., correct? Did it ever have any effect on you?

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I dont recall if I said I updosed buspar 0,5 mg 26. Jan. (I reduced it on 21. Jan and got lot anxiety ). The updose of BusPar reduced the anxiety very little and that is why I would like to updose Effexor as well . Is it still ok to updose effexor on top of updosing BusPar?

 

Conserning lamotrigin I don’t feel any effect

 

The anxiety still come rolling in big waves and the windows are few and short. This is going on all day. I have less anxiety when I am distracted fx if the phone rings or I am focusing on something else apart from how I feel ect.

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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I dont recall if I said I updosed buspar 0,5 mg 26. Jan. (I reduced it on 21. Jan and got lot anxiety ). The updose of BusPar reduced the anxiety very little and that is why I would like to updose Effexor as well . Is it still ok to updose effexor on top of updosing BusPar?

 

I sure will like to updose

Can you help me figur out how much 62,5 mg is updosing

 

I know that 7,5 mg is 10% and 15 mg is 20% down to the dosis I am on now 60mg. The 15 mg Effexor equals 0,049 mg at the scale. That is what I take out of the capsule.

How much less shall I take out when I want to take 62,5? Right now my brain can’t figur it out..

 

How long (days) should I stay on 62,5 and see if it works before I do another updose ?

 

Conserning lamotrigin I don’t feel any effect

 

The anxiety still come rolling in big waves and the windows are few and short. This is going on all day. I have less anxiety when I am distracted fx if the phone rings or I am focusing on something else apart from how I feel ect.

It is so exorsting having to be aktive all the time (mentally of fysical) in order to lessen the anxiety... 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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1 hour ago, HAa said:

The 15 mg Effexor equals 0,049 mg at the scale.

I'm going to assume this is a typo and 15 mg active ingredient weighs 0.049 g on the scale. 

 

If yes and based on the info given then to get 62.5mg (62.45mg to be exact) active ingredient remove 0.041 g from the (75mg )capsule.

 

[Qu for you, how do you know that 15mgai is 0.049g ?.....answer: because nz11 i weighed the 75mg ai and it was 0.245 g...please confirm this was going to be your answer....im just double checking with you.]  

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I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

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Sorry I can’t figur it out. And I wrote wrong. 

15 mg Effexor is 0,049g 

so now Insted of taking out 0,049g I took out 0,024g out 

That will be 10 % insted of 20% Would it not?

As 20% was 0,049 mg?

 

I am not very good at this. Getting confused and scared as I can’t figur our if I am doing anything wrong. 

10 % of 0,249 mg = 0,049mg

If you agree I think I will stick to 10 % price the reduction as that is an easy % to calculate at the moment. 

That will be a dosis on 67,5mg is that correct ( cabsule 75mg Effexor)?

 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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I think I need someone better in English than I to explain... 

As of now I took out 24 beats and their wheight is 0,025g. I wrote in my first post that it was 0,049mg 

Does this get snu mening at all?

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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okay lets just stop and relax and take a big breath

Tell me  what do all the beads in the 75 mg capsule weigh. 

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Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

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None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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As of now I took out 24 beats and their wheight is 0,025g. I wrote in my first post that it was 0,049mg 

okay we push the delete button on everything so far and start again.

 

so what you are saying is you took 24 beads out of the 75mg capsule and those 24 beads weighed 0.025 g

Why 24 beads? Please explain.

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URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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There is 248-249 beats in the capsule. Then I took out 24 beats. 

The 248-249 beats equals 0.250g

The scale is somewhat a little unstable between 0,002-0,005 after I have adjusted it. 

I assume that 24 beats therefor must be 10 % 

perhaps I should count the beats as the scale is not fully correct. 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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I don’t know how to delite. Sorry

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Just now, HAa said:

I don’t know how to delite. Sorry

Sorry i forgot you not English speaker.

Just ignore that comment.

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http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Sid you see the post before the last where I try to explain the number and weight?

 

The scale I have is brand name diamond   I do not know how to send a picture 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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16 minutes ago, HAa said:

There is 248-249 beats in the capsule. Then I took out 24 beats. 

The 248-249 beats equals 0.250g

The scale is somewhat a little unstable between 0,002-0,005 after I have adjusted it. 

I assume that 24 beats therefor must be 10 % 

perhaps I should count the beats as the scale is not fully correct. 

okay if you want to do this method then 24 beads is approx. 10% 

so yeah okay  remove 24 beads to give a dose of 67.5 mg (being a 10% reduction on the 75mg)

 

nz11

 The moneys run out its lights out time ... I'm going to hit the sack.

(sorry if that is not translatable!...basically it means goodnight.)

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URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Good night and thank you a lot. 

I will stick to 24 beats

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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