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1.1.19

I have been holding all december and plan to taper effexor xr within a week.

Happy New Year to all of you here, and thank you so much for giving us this opportunity to get the much needed support and help.

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Feeling good and sleeping all night.

I have had a nice christmas, cosy with the children visiting.

So all in all a nice time. 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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How can I change the signature if thats what the below is called?

HAa: tapering (Effexor and buspirone)?

 

I am now on Sertraline, Lyrica, Lamotrigin and oxabenz. So effexor and buspiron should be deleted and replaced. 

I want to write a detailed update on my journey for the last 6 years. 
And I would like to know where to write it and under what name. 
Any advise is appreciated. 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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On 2/24/2024 at 9:22 AM, HAa said:

How can I change the below as I am no longer on effexor and buspiron. 

HAa: tapering (Effexor and buspirone)?

 

I am now on Sertraline, Lyrica, Lamotrigin and oxabenz. So effexor and buspiron should be deleted and replaced. 
I have updated the signature

Now I would like to write an update on my journey for the last 6 years. 
And I would like to know where to write it and under what name. 
Any advise is appreciated. 

@brassmonkey can you direct me to how to do it? 🙏

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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You should post your long update right here on your intro thread. If it is really long I would suggest writing it on a word processor and use a copy and paste to post it here.

 

All the information on working with your signature block can be found here: How to Summarize Your Drug History in Your Signature - Read This First - Surviving Antidepressants

 

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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I started my tapering journey in 2016. The meds I was on didn’t any affects beside the adverse effect.
It has been a chaotic time, and as I react to even the smallest changes, it has been a long journey just to get out of the two medications, I have been on since I was mid 20ties. I am now 65

I got hospitalized when I just was about to go to 0. I got suicidal, and I didn't trust myself not to act on the impulse to end my life.

At that time I would agree to anything, just to end my misery.

I was switched to sertralin and the last 8 beats was tapered to 0 over 8 weeks without any struggle.

Before I got inpatient, I started on Lyrica, and I wish I never did. I had a huge effect the first 2 month, and the none effect. But as I was tapering the old meds, I stayed on it, and now I am struggling tapering Lyrics.

I was on 300mg, and now I am on 59,4mg. In 2023 I reduced 10 mg, and It worked well until December 2023. Then hell broke loose. I fell and hit my head. All symptoms are mixed up and we don’t know if it is WD or it is the head injury that causes the state I am in.

I am on hold with Lyrica and is going to stay here for 3-6 months or more. 
The reason I started tapering Lyrica was because I got allergic to allmost all food and spices except meat and vegetables and I lost a lot of weight. And it didn’t have any effect. 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Since we updosed

Febr 26 from 29,2x2 8am+6 pm I have been waking up at 2-3 am freezing and shivering, headache and very thirsty and first fallen asleep at 5am. When I wake up again around 8 I am all sweaty. I thought it was due to updosing or abstinence. 

Last night I took my temperature and it was 40,2 celsius. 
@brassmonkey

Does it connect with updosing and perhaps too much? Or can you run high tp as WD?

The updose helped on the anxiety and depressive state but now this high tp during night.  

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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40,2C is considered a "high fever", it is a medical condition that should be checked out by a doctor.

 

ADWD will cause night sweats and chills, but it should not produce a fever. What you describe is consistent with having a virus. 

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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11 hours ago, brassmonkey said:

What you describe is consistent with having a virus. 

Thank you.  If it continue one more day, I will talk to my GP

The weird thing is that it is only between 2-5am it occurs. And I am not feel sick during the day. Is that why you point at virus?

Not all can go under the hat of WA. It must just be a coincident that it started at the same time as i updosed.  I updosed Lyrica from 29,2mgx2 to 29,8+29,6mg Tuesday 28th and the updosing helped and I am at ease. 
I am going to hold for quite a while as these last two months have been terrifying.

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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@brassmonkey

 Tapering oxabenz.
I have been looking for Vodka 90% here in Denmark as I would like to start tapering oxabenz.

It is not available. I can buy ethanol 96%. But how much do I need to dissolve 7,5mg oxabenz?
I read your info where you write that one can use 0,25ml vodka 90% pr 1 mg. And then add up with water till I get 1mg/ml. 

If it were 90 % vodka I would need 1,875ml and then water till 7,5ml.

 

How do I do it with 96% ethanol?  Sincerely HAa 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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On 3/5/2024 at 7:15 AM, HAa said:

What you describe is consistent with having a virus. 

@brassmonkey I had a lung infection. Thanks for your advise. I saw my GP and got treaded with antibiotic. (Tetracycline)
I’ll wait for a couple of weeks before starting tapering oxabenz as the antibiotic I got can influence on the two of the meds I take. (sertralin and lyrica)
 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Good idea to wait before you start to taper.

 

You could use half as much of the stronger alcohol. But it is a very small amount to work with. Just using the same amount as the vodka would work fine.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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20 minutes ago, brassmonkey said:

You could use half as much of the stronger alcohol. But it is a very small amount to work with.

Thank you. Much appreciated.

I’ll wait to see how the coming weeks are going. 
When I start, I think, I’ll start by removing 10% of one tbl 7,5mg instead of removing 10% of 7,5 mg x3 

So it will be 6,75mg + 7,5+ 7,5mg. Just to see if I get WD on this reduction. (3,33%). 
What do you think, and how to proceed if it goes fine? Should I then try 5%? 

Efexor xr BuspPar 1997-2020

300 mg Lamotrigin 2016. 200mg 2017

7,5 mg Oxapax pn 2016-2019

300mg Lyrica 2019Tapering from 2021
Current medication 31.dec. 2024

29,2mgx2 Lyrica 8am+6pm Reduc 1mgx2 4-6 week.

15. Dec 30mgx2 to 29x2. 8am+ 6pm
31.Dec 29,2x2 at 8 am + 6 pm

26. Febr 29,8mg+ 29,6mg On hold

100mg Lamotriginx2 8am+6pm

75mg Sertraline 10pm November 2020 7,5mg x3 Oxazepax  21. January 24 

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Removing 10% of just one tablet would be a good place to start. Then see how it goes for a month.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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