Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 7, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: 11 - sleep / doxylamine - 12.5mg (need to take since no sleep for days) 5/6/18 8 - Slept through night Hi, Dabhob. It's going to be impossible to know if your good night of sleep was the result of dropping the Prozac (or moving it to earlier in the day), updosing the benzo, or adding in another variable - doxylamine. I would encourage you to take a few days off of work if possible and really concentrate on getting your drugs sorted out properly instead of reaching for a pill to control your symptoms. I know that lack of sleep is one of the worst symptoms out there, as it can lead to so many other problems, but adding in the doxy is making it harder to give you advice. Edited March 7, 2018 by Shep Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Altostrata said: What part of the day do you NOT have burning? ****burning generally persists throughout the day 10 hours ago, Altostrata said: What does the burning feel like? Where is it? ****like someone’s running a bic lighter over my body. It moves around head, legs, chest/shoulders. Is your bedroom darkened with blackout shades, curtains, etc.? ***** my room is completely dark Did the burning change at all after you took Prozac? ****No 10 hours ago, Altostrata said: What part of the day do you NOT have burning? What does the burning feel like? Where is it? Is your bedroom darkened with blackout shades, curtains, etc.? Did the burning change at all after you took Prozac? Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shep said: Hi, Dabhob. It's going to be impossible to know if your good night of sleep was the result of dropping the Prozac (or moving it to earlier in the day), updosing the benzo, or adding in another variable - doxylamine. I would encourage you to take a few days off of work if possible and really concentrate on getting your drugs sorted out properly instead of reaching for a pill to control your symptoms. I know that lack of sleep is one of the worst symptoms out there, as it can lead to so many other problems, but adding in the doxy is making it harder to give you advice. Ok. After looking back over last few weeks, it was after I took doxy when I slept. Although last night I didn’t take anything and slept until 5am. I’ll lay off the pills to see what transpires. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 When I awake from a nap I feel like garbage. Anxious, heavy head, etc. i notice that’s when the burning occurs most often. It carries with me for quite some time afterwards. I’m fearful to sleep bc of this. Is this common? I read someone’s post calling it a toxic nap after I did some research. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 3/7/18 5 - woke up agitated - no Tylenol or doxylamine yesterday 730 - woke up 8 - breakfast / 5mg Valium / eye drops 930 - Anxious / 10 Tired / depressed /heavy head / agitated Noon - lunch Have father - son outing tonight. I should be excited, I dread it. Very anxious in anticipation. So tired. 2 - napped and woke up with slight panic and heavier head. Really bummed that I felt this way. It tends to stick with me. I hate to say it (to jinx it) that my body burning has been little to none over past few days. 430 - Tylenol 325mg 630 - father - son outing - very restless and crawl out of skin feeling. Eventually settled down after an hour. Tried to stay in moment with Charlie. 8- 900mg Lithium 930 - eye drops / 5 10 - 7mg valium 1130 - sleep 3/8/18 330 - woke up with major burning - unbearable Ice packs Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 8, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Dabhob33 said: 2 - napped and woke up with slight panic and heavier head. Really bummed that I felt this way. It tends to stick with me. I hate to say it (to jinx it) that my body burning has been little to none over past few days. Please add your Prozac reinstatement to your signature, including the dose and the date you started it and stopped it. A direct link to your signature is here: Account - settings - signature Did the burning stop after you stopped taking the Prozac? It will really help to have those dates in your signature. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 8, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 8, 2018 Also please add to your signature the date and amount that you updosed your benzo. It's possible the benzo updose is doing you the most good and now that you aren't making any more changes, you may be able to stabilize by keeping everything the same for a few weeks. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shep said: Please add your Prozac reinstatement to your signature, including the dose and the date you started it and stopped it. A direct link to your signature is here: Account - settings - signature Did the burning stop after you stopped taking the Prozac? It will really help to have those dates in your signature. ****done signature. Burning stopped for few days. Back with vengeance. Woke up at 330a in burn. Been up since with ice packs. Is this ever going to subside? I have so long to go with this taper which makes me believe this is here for the long haul. Brutal. No other way to say it. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 Thank you. How will the taper work once we get started? Would you put a plan together from 11mg to 0mg? Gives me something to look forward to. Is it possible I’m in full withdrawal at this point based on my symptoms? Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 3/8/18 330- woke burning! Up rest of night. Ice packs 6 - wife sick - up with kids for school 8 - 5mg valium / eye drops / 10 On couch all morning, depressed, body burning, anxiety, agitated. I want off this stuff so I can begin healing. 130 - Tylenol 325 / 5 Burning and really agitated. 230 - daughters therapist 4 - dinner (haven’t eaten all day) Continued burning 8- 900mg Lithium 930 - eye drops 10 - 7mg valium 1130 - sleep / took sliver of doxylamine 3/9/18 330am - woke up anxious - but fell back to sleep Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
powerback Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Dabhob33 said: 3/8/18 330- woke burning! Up rest of night. Ice packs 6 - wife sick - up with kids for school 8 - 5mg valium / eye drops / 10 On couch all morning, depressed, body burning, anxiety, agitated. I want off this stuff so I can begin healing. 130 - Tylenol 325 / 5 Burning and really agitated. 230 - daughters therapist 4 - dinner (haven’t eaten all day) Continued burning 8- 900mg Lithium 930 - eye drops 10 - 7mg valium 1130 - sleep / took sliver of doxylamine 3/9/18 330am - woke up anxious - but fell back to sleep You will need to force nutrition into you ,low blood sugar doesn't help withdrawl . I get you about wanting off meds ,I'm embarrassed how long my last hold has been and barely got any traction on my taper but I'm well aware of how much worse it can get for me . Take care Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 9, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 9, 2018 Thank you, Powerback, that is wise advice. Dabhob, you really do need to eat. Recommendation: Eat small, high-protein, low-sugar meals at least 3 times a day with a couple of protein snacks in between. The snacks could include a handful of nuts and a glass of milk or soymilk. It's really important to stayed fueled with clean, nutritious food throughout the day. Include breakfast, as well, with protein and low in sugar. Early morning low blood sugar can make withdrawal a lot worse. The symptoms of low blood sugar are anxiety, fatigue, agitation, headaches, and a lot of other similar symptoms of withdrawal, so a lot of people mistake low blood sugar with withdrawal. This is why nutrition is so important during withdrawal. By not eating, you are stressing your nervous system. Also, are you drinking enough fluids? This is important, especially since you are taking lithium. Are you getting your lithium bloodwork regularly? 17 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: Thank you. How will the taper work once we get started? Would you put a plan together from 11mg to 0mg? Gives me something to look forward to. Please re-read the information from your benzo thread here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/17135-dabhob33-valium-taper/?do=findComment&comment=336018 There's really no way of giving you a full "from 11 mg to 0 mg" at this point, not knowing if you're going to do scale or liquid and not knowing your taper rate. That will depend on how you feel. Likely, you'll do best with a micro-taper, especially since you're dealing with a rapid taper AD withdrawal which is adding to your symptoms. This will give you more information: Micro taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases The best thing you can do right now is build yourself up as much as possible and that means eating regularly and taking very good care of yourself. Try to focus less on how to get off these drugs and more time on learning how to take better care of yourself through nutrition. These links will help you get started on your research: Beyond Meds - Gut Health Diet Plans for Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) Acceptance is also going to be key. You've been on psych drugs for nearly 30 years. So was I. It's likely going to be a long journey off, but trust me, it is so worth it. You WILL get a lot better. Please spend some time reading through some of the threads on acceptance. Acceptance Acceptance and Mindfulness Claire Weekes' Method of Recovering from a Sensitized Nervous System You're doing a great job with your drug and symptoms journal, so please keep on with that. But also add in some of the techniques that you find are helping you cope throughout the day. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Shep said: Thank you, Powerback, that is wise advice. ***yes thank you Powerback Dabhob, you really do need to eat. Recommendation: Eat small, high-protein, low-sugar meals at least 3 times a day with a couple of protein snacks in between. The snacks could include a handful of nuts and a glass of milk or soymilk. It's really important to stayed fueled with clean, nutritious food throughout the day. Include breakfast, as well, with protein and low in sugar. Early morning low blood sugar can make withdrawal a lot worse. The symptoms of low blood sugar are anxiety, fatigue, agitation, headaches, and a lot of other similar symptoms of withdrawal, so a lot of people mistake low blood sugar with withdrawal. This is why nutrition is so important during withdrawal. By not eating, you are stressing your nervous system. ****i will eat as recommended 1 hour ago, Shep said: Also, are you drinking enough fluids? This is important, especially since you are taking lithium. Are you getting your lithium bloodwork regularly? ****i drink a ton of water daily Please re-read the information from your benzo thread here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/17135-dabhob33-valium-taper/?do=findComment&comment=336018 There's really no way of giving you a full "from 11 mg to 0 mg" at this point, not knowing if you're going to do scale or liquid and not knowing your taper rate. That will depend on how you feel. Likely, you'll do best with a micro-taper, especially since you're dealing with a rapid taper AD withdrawal which is adding to your symptoms. This will give you more information: Micro taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases The best thing you can do right now is build yourself up as much as possible and that means eating regularly and taking very good care of yourself. Try to focus less on how to get off these drugs and more time on learning how to take better care of yourself through nutrition. These links will help you get started on your research: Beyond Meds - Gut Health ****i read in gut health that 15-20% don’t heal from this. Is this th case? 1 hour ago, Shep said: Diet Plans for Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) Acceptance is also going to be key. You've been on psych drugs for nearly 30 years. So was I. It's likely going to be a long journey off, but trust me, it is so worth it. You WILL get a lot better. Please spend some time reading through some of the threads on acceptance. Acceptance Acceptance and Mindfulness Claire Weekes' Method of Recovering from a Sensitized Nervous System ****thanks for the info. Been listening to Claire weekes Hope and Help For The Nerves. She mentions a number of times taking tranquilizers “to get you through if needed.” I cringed. But the rest of what she says is great. 1 hour ago, Shep said: You're doing a great job with your drug and symptoms journal, so please keep on with that. But also add in some of the techniques that you find are helping you cope throughout the day. ******thank you Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 9, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: ****i read in gut health that 15-20% don’t heal from this. Is this th case? I think you may have mis-read this. This is the quote from the gut health article: "People dismiss the importance of diet for mental health issues and they use the argument that if psycho-social programs like Soteria and Open Dialogue can heal those with “schizophrenia” it’s not very credible that diet has much to do with it. I find this argument rather lacking since, first of all, we don’t see a 100% recovery rate even in these programs. 15 to 20% remain unwell. What if diet were changed in these folks in addition to offering psycho-social supports?" The author of that article was talking about Soteria and Open Dialogue having a rate of 15 - 20% who do not completely respond to that form of treatment. But that has nothing to do with withdrawal. She does make a valid point that if they had instituted better dietary measures, they might have brought the recovery rate up more. So that's a very good reason to work on diet. Hope this helps, Dabhob, because there's no reason to think you aren't going to heal. It just takes time. 5 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: Been listening to Claire weekes Hope and Help For The Nerves. She mentions a number of times taking tranquilizers “to get you through if needed.” I cringed. But the rest of what she says is great. I hear you. We have to take the good and leave the rest from some of these experts in the field. I find her voice relaxing, though. Glad you're getting some benefit out of it. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 3/9/18 730am - woke up, feeling depressed and anxiety in chest - at least got 6-7 hrs total sleep. Still not able to get without a little help (doxy) 8 - 5mg valium 830 - breakfast / eye drops / 3 Don’t want to get off couch - no interest or concentration in doing anything 930 - shoveled drive 10 - 30 min meditation - woke up feeling horrible Noon - lunch / 3 Heavy head / very slight burn 4 - Great visit from friend. Felt really good overall 6 - dinner 730 - men’s group 8- 900mg Lithium 930 - eye drops / 3 10 - 7mg valium 1130 - sleep / took sliver of doxylamine 3/10/18 4am - woke up burning - didn’t fall back to sleep Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 3/10/18 430am - woke up burning 8 - men’s group / valium 5mg / eye drops / 3 9 - breakfast Anxiety in stomach / worry about waking up burning. Noon - lunch Nap - doze off wake in panic minutes later No energy, but extremely anxious 1 - magnesium drink / omega 3 Laid on couch 5 - mass - daughter sings in choir - feel very uneasy / 3 6 - dinner at BW3 (salad) 8- 900mg Lithium 930 - eye drops / 3 10 - 7mg valium 1030 - sleep / took sliver of doxylamine 1130 - woke in panic and burning Took 325mg Tylenol I’m terrified to sleep!!! 3/11/18 5am - woke up / anxiety in chest Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 11, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 6:10 AM, Dabhob33 said: 4 - Great visit from friend. Felt really good overall Sounds like you had a bit of a window. 8 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: I’m terrified to sleep!!! This type of terror and panic over sleep is very, very common. It's important to have a calming routine leading up to bedtime so your aren't letting your thoughts sabotage yourself and make this worse than it already is. Do you have some guided meditations or other types of non-drug coping techniques you find calming that you could use as a pre-bedtime routine to calm those fears down? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 11, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shep said: This type of terror and panic over sleep is very, very common. It's called anticipatory anxiety. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 12, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 12, 2018 Please do your best to be a calm observer of your symptoms. They will change and eventually they will fade away. Do you often get awakened by the burning sensation between 4 and 5 a.m.? Is this the most intense burning of the day? Does any early morning light come into your bedroom? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 I get the early burning around 130am, then 4-5am. No light. Then periodically throughout the day Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 12, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 12, 2018 I'll tell you what I'm thinking. Usually, when people have early morning waking with these symptoms, it's from the normal rise of cortisol triggered by the early morning light. You don't get any early morning light. However, your own circadian clock may be naturally increasing cortisol and your system may be reacting to it in a hypersensitive way. That would be the early-morning burning. Generally, people find that after darkening the bedroom and using a sleep mask, the early-morning hyper-reactivity gradually goes away. On the other hand, your taking uneven amounts of Valium with the larger amount in the evening makes me uneasy. It is possible that the 7mg dose is too much and causing a paradoxical reaction 6 hours or so later. How long have you been taking 7mg Valium in the evening? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Altostrata said: I'll tell you what I'm thinking. Usually, when people have early morning waking with these symptoms, it's from the normal rise of cortisol triggered by the early morning light. You don't get any early morning light. However, your own circadian clock may be naturally increasing cortisol and your system may be reacting to it in a hypersensitive way. That would be the early-morning burning. Generally, people find that after darkening the bedroom and using a sleep mask, the early-morning hyper-reactivity gradually goes away. On the other hand, your taking uneven amounts of Valium with the larger amount in the evening makes me uneasy. It is possible that the 7mg dose is too much and causing a paradoxical reaction 6 hours or so later. How long have you been taking 7mg Valium in the evening? I’ve been taking 7mg at night since 2/28/18. Had been taking 5mg at 5pm before moving an hour a day until reaching 10pm. Moved the 1mg dose as well and eventually updosed to 7mg. Is there a move we can make to answer the possible paradoxical reaction? Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 12, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: I’ve been taking 7mg at night since 2/28/18. Had been taking 5mg at 5pm before moving an hour a day until reaching 10pm. Moved the 1mg dose as well and eventually updosed to 7mg. Is there a move we can make to answer the possible paradoxical reaction? Is the burning worse since the updose? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 3/11/18 5am - woke up / anxiety in chest 8 - valium 5mg / breakfast eye drops Laid on couch Feel miserable Noon - Lunch 230 - 325mg Tylenol / 3 Anxiety in stomach / burning head and body 3 - son’s football game Burning / heavy head 5 - dinner I am constantly checking in on my body and mind....ruminating non stop about benzos, the length of time this will take, and the anticipation of burning and sleep issues. (I received your notes on anticipation and best setting myself up for sleep). 8- 900mg Lithium 930 - eye drops / 3 10 - 7mg valium 11 - sleep - sliver of Doxylamine - soft music 3/12/18 230am - awoke and fell back to sleep 620 - woke up Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Shep said: Is the burning worse since the updose? I would say same to slightly worse Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 12, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: Is there a move we can make to answer the possible paradoxical reaction? I've asked Alto and the other mods for input. One other quick question that will help - how is your sleep quality now compared to when you first came into the site? You may want to re-read your main intro posts here and over in the benzo area. It would be helpful to have your take on if you think your current regiment now is working (including the sliver of doxy taken at night) compared to how you felt when you first came to the site. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Shep said: I've asked Alto and the other mods for input. One other quick question that will help - how is your sleep quality now compared to when you first came into the site? You may want to re-read your main intro posts here and over in the benzo area. It would be helpful to have your take on if you think your current regiment now is working (including the sliver of doxy taken at night) compared to how you felt when you first came to the site. I’m definitely getting some sleep. Much better than when I first came to SA. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 12, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 12, 2018 12 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: I’ve been taking 7mg at night since 2/28/18. Had been taking 5mg at 5pm before moving an hour a day until reaching 10pm. Moved the 1mg dose as well and eventually updosed to 7mg. Was the burning the same before 2/28/18? Has there been any other improvement or change in symptom pattern since 2/28/18? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Was the burning the same before 2/28/18? Has there been any other improvement or change in symptom pattern since 2/28/18? 8 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Was the burning the same before 2/28/18? Has there been any other improvement or change in symptom pattern since 2/28/18? Burning is somewhat less. Triggered by stress still. Not as consistent throughout the day. The one thing that’s changed is my energy level. I’m even more exhausted all the time. Heavy eyes. Hard to keep them open. And i feel more agitated, anxious. I’m getting frustrated with where I’m at. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 12, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 12, 2018 The frustration, which is something over which you have control, is adding to your stress. You need to adjust your expectations and probably stop blaming yourself for your predicament. This will reduce your agitation and anxiety and clear your mind so you can be a calm observer of your symptoms. I think now you can see why we need you to keep daily notes of your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages. 2 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: I’m definitely getting some sleep. Much better than when I first came to SA. Perhaps you can copy this ^ and tape it to your monitor, to remind yourself that you have seen progress already. 10 minutes ago, Dabhob33 said: Burning is somewhat less. Triggered by stress still. Not as consistent throughout the day. This ^ is the typical pattern of healing. Symptoms very gradually become less frequent and intense. While the recent improvement might be small, it is significant and shows you're going in the right direction. 19 minutes ago, Dabhob33 said: The one thing that’s changed is my energy level. I’m even more exhausted all the time. Heavy eyes. Hard to keep them open. ^ This suggests to me that you might be taking a little too much Valium in the evening. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Altostrata said: The frustration, which is something over which you have control, is adding to your stress. You need to adjust your expectations and probably stop blaming yourself for your predicament. This will reduce your agitation and anxiety and clear your mind so you can be a calm observer of your symptoms. ****I agree. I have constant reminders of what I had and what others have (just being honest). I do have control over how I respond internally. I also really have major shame and guilt for my situation. I spend a lot of time on the couch - which I hate. But extremely exhausted. Quote I think now you can see why we need you to keep daily notes of your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages. ****is there something I can be doing better with the journaling? Perhaps you can copy this ^ and tape it to your monitor, to remind yourself that you have seen progress already. This ^ is the typical pattern of healing. Symptoms very gradually become less frequent and intense. While the recent improvement might be small, it is significant and shows you're going in the right direction. ^ This suggests to me that you might be taking a little too much Valium in the evening. ****So when I take the 8am valium it doesn’t really affect me until evening and vice versa? how can I manage this? Move the 10pm dose? 15 minutes ago, Altostrata said: The frustration, which is something over which you have control, is adding to your stress. You need to adjust your expectations and probably stop blaming yourself for your predicament. This will reduce your agitation and anxiety and clear your mind so you can be a calm observer of your symptoms. I think now you can see why we need you to keep daily notes of your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages. Perhaps you can copy this ^ and tape it to your monitor, to remind yourself that you have seen progress already. This ^ is the typical pattern of healing. Symptoms very gradually become less frequent and intense. While the recent improvement might be small, it is significant and shows you're going in the right direction. ^ This suggests to me that you might be taking a little too much Valium in the evening. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 12, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 12, 2018 The evening Valium overlaps what's left of the morning Valium. Valium has a very long half-life, up to 7 days. After taking 7mg at night for 12 days, the overlapping doses have built up and are affecting you during the day. I am conferring with Shep about adjusting the evening Valium dosage. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Very interesting. On another note, I’ve been staying away from the horror stories online surrounding bw. However, I can’t get them out of my head. And I can’t get the thought out of my head re the damage I’ve done. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 12, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: The one thing that’s changed is my energy level. I’m even more exhausted all the time. Heavy eyes. Hard to keep them open. Did this change happen when you upped the Valium night-time dose to 7 mg or did it happen after you added in the sliver of doxy? Doxy can have a hang-over effect, so I would hate for you to adjust the Valium when it's another drug causing the problem. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 I will try dropping the doxy tonight. Although, after looking at my notes, my energy has been really low while on 20mg (starting dose. No surprise there) and dropped again around 14mg. Even more now. I’dthink energy would go up the lower the dose goes. But with benzos nothing seems to make sense. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 12, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 12, 2018 Please don't make any more changes just yet. I'm asking questions so that we can have all of the information first. Are you going to be able to sleep without the doxy? If the doxy is giving you sleep at night and you're able to deal with the exhaustion during the day, you may want to keep it in your current cocktail, especially since low energy has been an ongoing issue and may or may not be connected to the doxy. Let us know what you think. I wish there was an easy fix to this, but you'll have to weigh the pros and cons. You're right - with benzos nothing does seem to make sense. But it will get better. Link to comment
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