Snowyowl16 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 So yesterday, day 4 of 4.8 mg, had 1 morning adrenalin flush but felt good all day. Today I felt good all day but now the nausea and adrenaline flushes Re starting. I have had no appetite. My diet is crap as I only basically tolerate carbs anyway. Poop out? Too soon to tell? Ugh.. Start citalopram late 2004 20 mg/d, tapered to 10 mg 1xd on for several years Citalopram 5 mg 1xd, occasional attempt to taper; off citalopram 4 months Aug. 2016 Venlafaxine 37.5 mg 2 months Nov, Dec 2016 stopped ct and change to citalopram 10 mg/d severe withdrawal with daily nausea Citalopram 20mg/day April 2017 - Feb 21, 2018, Citalopram 15 mg/day Feb. 21 - 3/3/2018 Citalopram 20 mg/day 3/4/18, Citalopram 18 mg 1xd 3/5 - 4/1, Citalopram 17 mg 4/2, 16.6 mg 4/16, 16.2 mg 4/23, 16 mg 5/14, 15.8 mg 5/18, 15.6 mg 5/22, 15.4 mg 5/29, 15.2 mg 6/5, 15 mg 6/12, 14.6 mg 7/21, 14.2 mg 7/28, 14 mg 8/4, 13.6mg 8/18, 13.2 mg 8/25, 13 mg 9/1, 12.6 mg 9/22, 9/25 13 mg, 11/9 12.8 mg, back to 13 mg after a few days. 1/9/19 12.8 mg, 1/14 12.6 mg, 1/20 12.4 mg, 1/27 12.2mg, 2/4 12 mg, 2/24 11.8 ,3/1 11.6, 3/6 11.4, 3/11 11.2, 3/14 11, by 4/28 10 mg. Nov. 1 9.8 mg, Nov 8 9.6 mg, Nov 22 9.5 mg, slow taper down to 9 mg 1/27/2020. Slow taper down to 8 mg Sept 1 2020, decrease by approx. 10% a month to 5 mg/day Jan. 2021. Supplements/other: multivitamin, vitamin d 2000 u 1xd,, melatonin 0.75 mg mg 1xd prn, magnesium, Propranolol Sr 60 mg/day Feb. 2016 (?), alprazolam 0.125 mg prn (rarely taken) approx. <2 yrs Change to famotidine 20 mg prn, cetirizine 10 mg prn or loratadine 10 mg prn for allergy sx. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted December 6, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 6:41 PM, Snowyowl16 said: So yesterday, day 4 of 4.8 mg, had 1 morning adrenalin flush but felt good all day. Today I felt good all day but now the nausea and adrenaline flushes Re starting. I have had no appetite. My diet is crap as I only basically tolerate carbs anyway. Poop out? Too soon to tell? Ugh.. Hi Snowyowl16, I think the thing about poop out is that it may stay about the same, regardless of tapering.......AND should not result in one wanting to up their dose, as that wouldn't do much for it. The drug has essentially pooped out is my take. So, you might actually be feeling a bit of WD from the taper dose change. Do be sure to eat at regular intervals. I think more of us get into problems, those of us who do lose our appetites in WD, from hypoglycemia, or low blood sugar. Best to get frequent feedings in, good protein, some carbs(or the ones you tolerate) and some of the good fats as well. Are you on Omega 3's/fish oil at this point? They can be great for stabilization of the brain and nervous system. King of supplements: Omega-3 fatty acids(fish oil) Kind of a delayed response to your post, so do let us know how you are doing now, today or soon. How much did you taper by this taper, in %? And best for you and your holiday season. L, P, H, and G, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Snowyowl16 Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 Hi Many more today's, Thanks for the response. Yes, I still feel good. I definitely get in to trouble with my diet between the nausea and lack of appetite. I do not really eat meat, just occasional chicken. I can't tolerate beans or many veggies because of my IBS. That leaves carbs. Fish oil gives me gas and cramps. I did take krill oil at one point and tolerated it. I struggle to get enough protein. The decrease dose I made was less than 10% at 0.2 mg of a 5 mg dose (4%). I will drop another 0.2 mg in a week or 2. I am getting my covid booster this week so want to wait until after that to reduce again. The fact that I most likely have poop out encourages me to continue to taper even if it is very slowly. Thanks again for following me and the response. Snowy Start citalopram late 2004 20 mg/d, tapered to 10 mg 1xd on for several years Citalopram 5 mg 1xd, occasional attempt to taper; off citalopram 4 months Aug. 2016 Venlafaxine 37.5 mg 2 months Nov, Dec 2016 stopped ct and change to citalopram 10 mg/d severe withdrawal with daily nausea Citalopram 20mg/day April 2017 - Feb 21, 2018, Citalopram 15 mg/day Feb. 21 - 3/3/2018 Citalopram 20 mg/day 3/4/18, Citalopram 18 mg 1xd 3/5 - 4/1, Citalopram 17 mg 4/2, 16.6 mg 4/16, 16.2 mg 4/23, 16 mg 5/14, 15.8 mg 5/18, 15.6 mg 5/22, 15.4 mg 5/29, 15.2 mg 6/5, 15 mg 6/12, 14.6 mg 7/21, 14.2 mg 7/28, 14 mg 8/4, 13.6mg 8/18, 13.2 mg 8/25, 13 mg 9/1, 12.6 mg 9/22, 9/25 13 mg, 11/9 12.8 mg, back to 13 mg after a few days. 1/9/19 12.8 mg, 1/14 12.6 mg, 1/20 12.4 mg, 1/27 12.2mg, 2/4 12 mg, 2/24 11.8 ,3/1 11.6, 3/6 11.4, 3/11 11.2, 3/14 11, by 4/28 10 mg. Nov. 1 9.8 mg, Nov 8 9.6 mg, Nov 22 9.5 mg, slow taper down to 9 mg 1/27/2020. Slow taper down to 8 mg Sept 1 2020, decrease by approx. 10% a month to 5 mg/day Jan. 2021. Supplements/other: multivitamin, vitamin d 2000 u 1xd,, melatonin 0.75 mg mg 1xd prn, magnesium, Propranolol Sr 60 mg/day Feb. 2016 (?), alprazolam 0.125 mg prn (rarely taken) approx. <2 yrs Change to famotidine 20 mg prn, cetirizine 10 mg prn or loratadine 10 mg prn for allergy sx. Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted December 7, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 7, 2021 @Snowyowl16 I'm not a big meat eater either. I eat a lot of chicken. But I do eat cheese, yogurt with fruit, things like that. Can you tolerate cheese and yogurt? I ate fruit throughout my wd and crackers with peanut butter. Just some suggestions. Glad things are looking up for you though. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Snowyowl16 Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Thanks Frogie. Yes I can eat cheese. I sometimes take lactaid with it if I have too much. Yogurt or peanut butter not so much. I eat couscous with pumpkin seeds for fiber and protein. GI issues seem to have gotten worse. I used to eat yogurt daily. Hope all is well with you. Snowy Start citalopram late 2004 20 mg/d, tapered to 10 mg 1xd on for several years Citalopram 5 mg 1xd, occasional attempt to taper; off citalopram 4 months Aug. 2016 Venlafaxine 37.5 mg 2 months Nov, Dec 2016 stopped ct and change to citalopram 10 mg/d severe withdrawal with daily nausea Citalopram 20mg/day April 2017 - Feb 21, 2018, Citalopram 15 mg/day Feb. 21 - 3/3/2018 Citalopram 20 mg/day 3/4/18, Citalopram 18 mg 1xd 3/5 - 4/1, Citalopram 17 mg 4/2, 16.6 mg 4/16, 16.2 mg 4/23, 16 mg 5/14, 15.8 mg 5/18, 15.6 mg 5/22, 15.4 mg 5/29, 15.2 mg 6/5, 15 mg 6/12, 14.6 mg 7/21, 14.2 mg 7/28, 14 mg 8/4, 13.6mg 8/18, 13.2 mg 8/25, 13 mg 9/1, 12.6 mg 9/22, 9/25 13 mg, 11/9 12.8 mg, back to 13 mg after a few days. 1/9/19 12.8 mg, 1/14 12.6 mg, 1/20 12.4 mg, 1/27 12.2mg, 2/4 12 mg, 2/24 11.8 ,3/1 11.6, 3/6 11.4, 3/11 11.2, 3/14 11, by 4/28 10 mg. Nov. 1 9.8 mg, Nov 8 9.6 mg, Nov 22 9.5 mg, slow taper down to 9 mg 1/27/2020. Slow taper down to 8 mg Sept 1 2020, decrease by approx. 10% a month to 5 mg/day Jan. 2021. Supplements/other: multivitamin, vitamin d 2000 u 1xd,, melatonin 0.75 mg mg 1xd prn, magnesium, Propranolol Sr 60 mg/day Feb. 2016 (?), alprazolam 0.125 mg prn (rarely taken) approx. <2 yrs Change to famotidine 20 mg prn, cetirizine 10 mg prn or loratadine 10 mg prn for allergy sx. Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted December 7, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 7, 2021 Hopefully you'll find something that agrees with you and you can get some protein. Try almond butter maybe? It's gentler on the tummy😊 PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Snowyowl16 Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 Well I haven't been here for a while. I am currently on 4 mg of citalopram where I have been for almost a year. I was feeling good and working less so tried to reduce by a tiny amount (0.1mg) and had one of my adrenaline flushes with nausea etc tonight. I am seriously thinking I may be on this medication for the rest of my life. Hand tremors are worsening. I am not sure if they were caused by the citalopram or not but I am sure it's not helping. Anyway, thinking of all of you on this horrible journey and wishing you all calmness and healing. Snowy Start citalopram late 2004 20 mg/d, tapered to 10 mg 1xd on for several years Citalopram 5 mg 1xd, occasional attempt to taper; off citalopram 4 months Aug. 2016 Venlafaxine 37.5 mg 2 months Nov, Dec 2016 stopped ct and change to citalopram 10 mg/d severe withdrawal with daily nausea Citalopram 20mg/day April 2017 - Feb 21, 2018, Citalopram 15 mg/day Feb. 21 - 3/3/2018 Citalopram 20 mg/day 3/4/18, Citalopram 18 mg 1xd 3/5 - 4/1, Citalopram 17 mg 4/2, 16.6 mg 4/16, 16.2 mg 4/23, 16 mg 5/14, 15.8 mg 5/18, 15.6 mg 5/22, 15.4 mg 5/29, 15.2 mg 6/5, 15 mg 6/12, 14.6 mg 7/21, 14.2 mg 7/28, 14 mg 8/4, 13.6mg 8/18, 13.2 mg 8/25, 13 mg 9/1, 12.6 mg 9/22, 9/25 13 mg, 11/9 12.8 mg, back to 13 mg after a few days. 1/9/19 12.8 mg, 1/14 12.6 mg, 1/20 12.4 mg, 1/27 12.2mg, 2/4 12 mg, 2/24 11.8 ,3/1 11.6, 3/6 11.4, 3/11 11.2, 3/14 11, by 4/28 10 mg. Nov. 1 9.8 mg, Nov 8 9.6 mg, Nov 22 9.5 mg, slow taper down to 9 mg 1/27/2020. Slow taper down to 8 mg Sept 1 2020, decrease by approx. 10% a month to 5 mg/day Jan. 2021. Supplements/other: multivitamin, vitamin d 2000 u 1xd,, melatonin 0.75 mg mg 1xd prn, magnesium, Propranolol Sr 60 mg/day Feb. 2016 (?), alprazolam 0.125 mg prn (rarely taken) approx. <2 yrs Change to famotidine 20 mg prn, cetirizine 10 mg prn or loratadine 10 mg prn for allergy sx. Link to comment
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