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2 hours ago, Dalalea said:

Do you use the organic apple cider vinegar like Bragg's? I have some in my cabinet but haven't started using it.

I hope you can find relief!

Yes, Braggs is what I use.  I haven't noticed any difference, but I'll keep trying for a while.  I've never done anything with oils.  Don't know how to begin.

 

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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I believe that I acquired tinnitus as a result of going off my SSRI (zoloft) in late 2016.  It didn't occur until a few months later when I was drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes. I had also reinstated my zoloft after 2 months of being off it completely. I believe going off it sensitized my serotonin receptors such that any serotonergic substance (e.g. caffeine and nicotine) set the tinnitus off and again worsened when I smoked/drank coffee again later.  I am also on 2 different serotonin antagonists, risperidone and mirtazapine, when combined with a full dose of zoloft may yield an excess of serotonin in my brain, leading to continual damage over time. 

I have cut out all serotonergic behavior except light exercise and occasional spicy food, yet my tinnitus continues to fluctuate, but has been on a downward trajectory, with the bad to good day ratio growing. 

I have ringing as well as beeping, and I am afraid the latter will soon keep me awake at night.  I am clueless as to whether to reduce my meds to reduce the serotonin in my system, which may indeed worsen my tinnitus rather than improve it.  I am really lost and scared and any advice or support is greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.

jan 2012: started 1 mg risperdal 50 mg zoloft | sep 2014: 2 mg risperdal 150 mg zoloft | jan 2016: 3 mg risperdal 200 mg zoloft | june - sept 2016: tapered to 1 mg risperdal 50 mg zoloft over 3 months.  reinstated 3 mg risperdal after insomnia.  still at 50 mg zoloft | oct 2016: went off zoloft | nov 2016: insomnia.  reinstated 3 mg risperdal, 200 mg zoloft, plus 15 mg remeron. | april 2017: 22.5 mg remeron.

 

dec 17 2019: 187.5 mg zoloft | dec 24 2019: 175 mg zoloft | apr 9 2020: 162.5 mg zoloft | may 11 2020: 150 mg zoloft | jan 7 2021: 137.5 mg zoloft | jan 27 2021: 125 mg zoloft | mar 10 2021: 112.5 mg zoloft | 5/26/21: 100 mg zoloft | 6/1/21: 112.5 mg zoloft | 7/29/22: missed whole dose zoloft | 2/3/23: 100 mg zoloft | 2/4/23: 112.5 mg zoloft

 

3/15/22: 20 mg remeron | 3/18/22: 22.5 mg remeron

 

current drugs: before bed - 3 mg risperdal, 22.5 mg remeron | morning - 112.5 mg zoloft

current supplements: before bed - 1 g NAC, 1 g lion's mane mushroom | morning - 1 g NAC, 7,500 mcg beta carotene

 

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I've used oils for lots of other things. I signed up as a distributor for Young Living oils simply so I can get them at a discount, because the good quality ones are more expensive. I don't concentrate on selling them. They have helped me with several other struggles and conditions. I use some to help with depression, allergies, and lots of other things. Recently, I started thinking I could use some of them for my WD symptoms. Now I'm trying to research what I could do to help with that. I was too foggy to have that idea earlier!

Dalalea's Introduction

Off All SSRI Medications: Effexor 2010 one month
Sertraline 50 mg. but only took 25 mg. daily because of dizziness. 2010 to July 2017

Tapered over 2 months beginning the 1st of June 2017 -- Off Sertraline by July 30, 2017

Current Medication: Losartan (blood pressure), Albuterol (for asthma- only as needed)
Current Symptoms: tinnitus, hearing loss in one ear, allergies

My Plan: Prayer, Scripture, Walk, Yoga, Encourage Others, Healthy Eating
Generic SSRI Withdrawal Symptom and Plan Checklists and Graph.xlsx

Current Supplements: Magnesium Threonate, Fish Oil, probiotic, B-12, C, D-3

Current Essential Oils: Frankincense, Bergamot, Orange, Lemon, Lavender, Peppermint, Clove
Current Essential Oil Blends: Brain Power, Clarity, Stress Away

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I believe that I acquired tinnitus as a result of going off my SSRI (zoloft) in late 2016.  It didn't occur until a few months later when I was drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes. I had also reinstated my zoloft after 2 months of being off it completely. I believe going off it sensitized my serotonin receptors such that any serotonergic substance (e.g. caffeine and nicotine) set the tinnitus off and again worsened when I smoked/drank coffee again later.  I am also on 2 different serotonin antagonists, risperidone and mirtazapine, when combined with a full dose of zoloft may yield an excess of serotonin in my brain, leading to continual damage over time. 

I have cut out all serotonergic behavior except light exercise and occasional spicy food, yet my tinnitus continues to fluctuate, but has been on a downward trajectory, with the bad to good day ratio growing. 

I have ringing as well as beeping, and I am afraid the latter will soon keep me awake at night.  I am clueless as to whether to reduce my meds to reduce the serotonin in my system, which may indeed worsen my tinnitus rather than improve it.  I am really lost and scared and any advice or support is greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.

jan 2012: started 1 mg risperdal 50 mg zoloft | sep 2014: 2 mg risperdal 150 mg zoloft | jan 2016: 3 mg risperdal 200 mg zoloft | june - sept 2016: tapered to 1 mg risperdal 50 mg zoloft over 3 months.  reinstated 3 mg risperdal after insomnia.  still at 50 mg zoloft | oct 2016: went off zoloft | nov 2016: insomnia.  reinstated 3 mg risperdal, 200 mg zoloft, plus 15 mg remeron. | april 2017: 22.5 mg remeron.

 

dec 17 2019: 187.5 mg zoloft | dec 24 2019: 175 mg zoloft | apr 9 2020: 162.5 mg zoloft | may 11 2020: 150 mg zoloft | jan 7 2021: 137.5 mg zoloft | jan 27 2021: 125 mg zoloft | mar 10 2021: 112.5 mg zoloft | 5/26/21: 100 mg zoloft | 6/1/21: 112.5 mg zoloft | 7/29/22: missed whole dose zoloft | 2/3/23: 100 mg zoloft | 2/4/23: 112.5 mg zoloft

 

3/15/22: 20 mg remeron | 3/18/22: 22.5 mg remeron

 

current drugs: before bed - 3 mg risperdal, 22.5 mg remeron | morning - 112.5 mg zoloft

current supplements: before bed - 1 g NAC, 1 g lion's mane mushroom | morning - 1 g NAC, 7,500 mcg beta carotene

 

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a year since i stopped xanax and ascitalopram.

 

Still tinnitus dont go away.

 

Any supplements that help? 

 

Last blood check i found homocysteine very high in the 20s could it be the cause? Im thinking of supplementing with B vitamins in hope to lower homocysteine and maybe tinnitus will go away

 

2004-2007 paxil

2015- zoloft 3 months zyprexa 3 months lexapro 3 months xanax

Med free since Feb 28th 2017

Mostly experiencing PSSD

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On 2/2/2018 at 6:28 PM, Remeron88 said:

I have ringing as well as beeping, and I am afraid the latter will soon keep me awake at night.  I am clueless as to whether to reduce my meds to reduce the serotonin in my system, which may indeed worsen my tinnitus rather than improve it.  I am really lost and scared and any advice or support is greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.

Hi Remeron88,

I'm here for support.  Mine started with a brief period of Wellbutrin.  When the doctor updosed from 150 mg. to 300 mg., the tinnitus was immediate and profound.  That was in October.  I'm trying everything I can to help myself.  The most important things I've learned is that reacting emotionally will give it more power and that almost anyone can learn to habituate in time to the point where it stops bothering you.  I don't quite believe it, but I am trying to believe it.  I looked online for support groups and found one about 25 miles from me.  They meet again at the end of March.  Even though it's far, I plan to attend.  Fortunately, I have no trouble sleeping.  I have the opposite problem.  I dread waking up to the noise, so I sleep way too much.  My muscles are atrophying because exercise ramps up the noise.  I've found that tomatoes, truvia and salt ramp it up for me.  I read that Bragg's organic vinegar with the mother helps, so I am trying that (2 teaspoons in a glass of water 3 x a day ten minutes before meals).  I read about a form of meditation where you actually concentrate on the noise, and your mind learns to wander and minimize the importance of the tinnitus.

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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On 2/1/2018 at 8:07 PM, Mimi11 said:

Hey RealMe,  the tinnitus still comes and goes. It seems worse when I'm tired or stressed I think. And it's honestly more of a head noise than ringing in the ear if that makes any sense at all. How are you doing?

Not so good today, Mimi11; but I have had a few windows.  Hoping tomorrow will be better.  Hope you are well.  What kind of WD symptoms are you having or hopefully not having anymore of?

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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On 2/2/2018 at 9:54 PM, Remeron88 said:

ringing as well as beeping, and I am afraid the latter will soon keep me awake at night.

I sleep best if I keep some sound going in the room from an app on my phone. I let it run all night and it helps me ignore the tinnitus. I hope you can find some relief!

Dalalea's Introduction

Off All SSRI Medications: Effexor 2010 one month
Sertraline 50 mg. but only took 25 mg. daily because of dizziness. 2010 to July 2017

Tapered over 2 months beginning the 1st of June 2017 -- Off Sertraline by July 30, 2017

Current Medication: Losartan (blood pressure), Albuterol (for asthma- only as needed)
Current Symptoms: tinnitus, hearing loss in one ear, allergies

My Plan: Prayer, Scripture, Walk, Yoga, Encourage Others, Healthy Eating
Generic SSRI Withdrawal Symptom and Plan Checklists and Graph.xlsx

Current Supplements: Magnesium Threonate, Fish Oil, probiotic, B-12, C, D-3

Current Essential Oils: Frankincense, Bergamot, Orange, Lemon, Lavender, Peppermint, Clove
Current Essential Oil Blends: Brain Power, Clarity, Stress Away

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I've had tinnitus from 2011, it progressively gets worse as hearing degrades as I get older. Sometimes it gets bad and is even louder than the TV. It doesn't really matter whether it was caused by my paroxetine, more likely my djing.

 

What everyone with Tinnitus needs to do is - ACCEPT. Just like we have to with the withdrawal symptoms. 

 

There is no cure and it will go up. down, left, right, squeek, fizz, pop, change tone. But as soon as you stop fearing it, genuinely say in your mind that 'I accept this as part of me and I do not fear it', then it will then gradually cease to be a problem. It's horrendous as long as you fear it and make attempts to quieten, treat, pay attention or give it attention. Don't do anything, don't change diet, don't take anything to help it at all. Go out and enjoy music! Tinnitus, like any other mental issue is disabled by your front brain consciousness telling your subconscious that it isn't a problem. Once that message gets through, your brain WILL sort itself out and ignore it, it then becomes background noise that you pay no or very little attention to.

 

I see my time dealing with Tinnitus as good training for what I'm having to do now to get over this withdrawal. It's all very simply controlling emotions, fears, physical unpleasantness etc.

 

Honestly, once you get it, tinnitus becomes absolutely nothing to you in your life, no matter how loud or obtrusive it gets.

1995 aged 18 Started 20mg Seroxat and 50mg Half Inderal Beta Blocker for anxiety / 1996 stopped beta blockers / 1997 stopped Seroxat

1999 Started Seroxat 20mg again / 2000-2016 mainly stayed on Seroxat with some drops to 15 and 10mg / Sep-Nov 2016 tapered from 20mg to 10mg / Nov 16 Major crash and massive hike from 10mg to 40mg / Dec 16 - Jun 17 struggled with insomnia and bouts of depression (not had serious depression previously) / Jun 17 Increased to 45mg Seroxat with little improvement / Mid Oct 17 lowered to 40mg, Nov 1st 17 lowered to 35mg / Mid Nov 17 back up to 40mg / Jan 2018 down to 37.5mg / 8th Feb 2018 down to 35mg / 20th Mar 2018 down to 32.5mg / April gave up cigarettes (tough) / 14th May 2018 down to 30mg / 27th June 2018 down to 27.5mg / 24th July down to 25mg / 20th August Crashed

 

Dropping 2.5mg every 4-6 weeks provided have been level for at least 2 weeks of that. After 4-6 days from drop I feel moderate increase in depression and anxiety with mood swings of up and down, sometimes excited to point of mania. Subsides over 7-21 days to base level. 

 

DO CBT, ONLY WAY OF ACCEPTING SYMPTOMS WITHOUT GOING NUTS AND LETTING IT SPIRAL. I can even handle consequences of having a few drinks.

 

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For you T sufferers, is it possible that the low dose Lamictal I am trying could be making it worse?  I've been taking 5 mg for about 30 days and my T has been increasing week by week.  Or is this just part of my current 3-month WD wave which will get worse before it gets better?   

21 years of daily SSRI use in total...

Paxil                                                                                                                                                 1995-1998

Zoloft (50 mg)                                                                                                                                 1998-2002

Lexapro (10 mg)                                                                                                                              2002-2015    (**August 2015, Lexapro “stopped working" after near death of my 1.5 yr. old son**)

Lexapro (15/20 mg) - increasing dose only made SEs worse                                                     Nov 2015 - Mar 2016

Zoloft (25/50 mg) - made derealization worse                                                                            Mar 2016 - Jul 2016

Celexa (20 mg) - made symptoms worse                                                                                    Oct 2016 - Jan 2017

Remeron (7.5 mg) - helped me eat and sleep for 4 nights, then went bad                               Jan 2018 (stopped after 2 weeks)

Lamictal (5.0 mg) - horrific withdrawal                                                                                        Jan 2018 - Oct 2020

TODAY - 100% DRUG FREE 

(Trialed Prozac, Effexor, Wellbutrin, Cymbalta - severe reaction, couldn't tolerate longer than a few days)

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Most of what I read about tinnitus talks about "drug induced" as the major cause.  

 

I have been off the drugs now for 2 years, so the toxicity should be gone.

 

I just posted on my thread about tinnitus, here:

4 minutes ago, JanCarol said:

 Unrelenting Tinnitus

 

There are probably a number of contributing factors to my unrelenting tinnitus, which varies from high pitched tones (one in each ear, and a third one in between) and the sound of crickets,  including:

  • an accident as a child which left me nerve damage in my ears - with more damage in my right ear than my left.
  • decades of drugs
  • decades of allergies and sinus troubles
  • heavy metal toxicity?
  • damage to my nervous system?
  • lithium toxicity - damage to liver and/or kidneys?
  • The ever increasing radio waves and EMF that are closing in on my nervous system.  It used to be that a town might have a few cell towers - now we all have smart meters that do stuff all the time, wifi in the house, bluetooth, devices, etc.
  • Noise pollution  

 

Thus far, I have been unable to tie it to events like stress or diet.

 

So when I went to Tasmania recently, I was dismayed to find that the tinnitus was unrelenting in a place where the EMF was better.  There were places where we got out of the car - and there was no sound.  No traffic.  Just the sound of birds.  And my unrelenting tinnitus.  So - maybe it's not about the EMF at home.

 

So - I'm always talking about being curious about symptoms.

 

I confess - this is one symptom that I prefer to distract from, to ignore.  How can I be curious?  It's always there.

 

Then I read this:  Psychology Today - Is Tinnitus Really God?

 

Now there's something to be curious about.

 

Some spiritual teachers see tinnitus as a message from The Greater Self (God, Angels, Spirits, whatever you want to call it) that the receiver is too stubborn to heed.  

 

There is that element of "ignoring," that I mentioned earlier.  One teacher suggested that the Greater Self is surrounding one tightly when there is tinnitus, that there are messages there, lessons, support, teachings.  Others suggest that our lives are so noisy, that we rarely get quiet enough to hear the Voice of God.  Native American teachings suggest that God is only heard in Silence (and that can be confirmed by other teachings, too, such as "The Still, Small Voice").

There are traditions which teach about this symptom as a spiritual call, a need to surrender (oh that's a hard one!), a need for stillness and retreat.

 

So I'm developing a relationship with my tinnitus.  I'm learning to be curious.  When do I notice it most?  Are there messages I need to heed?  How can I adapt to it, what is it asking of me?

 

I've been watching a video series by Michael A. Singer about how our mind is a dangerous place, a big bully, and how we tend to adjust outer things when our mind is bothering us, instead of learning about the inner things to address when our mind is bothering us.  The mind is an inner thing - and yet, we so often address it by looking at outer things (maybe I need to move, or this relationship or job isn't good for me, or maybe a pet would help, or maybe there's a supplement I should try, etc. etc.) - when the real solution lies in addressing the inner distress, not the outer situation.  I'm still learning on this one - but I'm looking at the tinnitus in a new light, with a new angle, a curious perspective.  I'm hoping that it will bring me to a place of compassion for myself, for my ears, for my head - and for those around me.  By having this conversation with my tinnitus, I hope to learn and grow.

 

This has not improved the tinnitus, and it is as unrelenting as ever.  So far, in the conversation, I haven't gotten any answers, but I will be patient and keep asking questions.

 

If anyone else gets into a conversation with their tinnitus, please share what you "hear" and come up with!

 

I'll try and keep y'all posted as well, but this is a process, not an event (and it may be months before my tinnitus engages with me!).

 

 

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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Yes, Jan, curiosity helps. My tinnitus is louder when I cannot deal with the outside related matters. It seems that this is my autonomous nervous system in a type of alert response, but I cannot get it out onto others... It turns inwards... 

So with me I do need to address outside rather than inner turmoil, or both... 

In the Gestalt theory, the anger that cannot be discharged outside, turns against oneself, this is called retroflection... 

Good luck with your approach... 

 

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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Vitamin B-Complex (Neurobion tablets) increases my tinnitus to at least 2X, any other person who faces the same ?

1995 to 1997: different antidepressants at maintenance dosages along with benzos 3 times a day.  

1998 to 2000: Citalopram 20mg + Benzo twice daily.

2001 to 2015: Sertraline 50 mg + Alprazolam (half of 0.25 mg once daily which is next to nothing)

2016 to 2017: Sertraline 50 mg + Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg (NO BENZO)

2017 to 2018: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 50 mg  (NO BENZO)

2018 (Earlier): Olanzapine (Zyprexa) 5 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg x 2 daily (7 weeks on Olanzapine was a disaster, antipsychotics are not for panic disorder)

2018 August : Sertraline 50 mg for 20 days (couldn't take it any longer) + Clonazepam.

2018 Sept. 1st week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg -- 2018 Sept. 2nd week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 12.5mg +Clonazepam 0.25 mg 

2018 November: Clonazepam 0.50 mg at night (for sleep disturbed by tinnitus)

2019 January to now: Clonazepam 0.25 mg at night and 0.25 mg in the morning.

Remember: Going out for a Walk or for a Change does help, it may take a few days or weeks or months for some, but it definitely helps.

Here is Knowledge for you: The more you Know about your sickness the more bad it is for you, so forget about it !

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3 hours ago, Ather said:

Vitamin B-Complex (Neurobion tablets) increases my tinnitus to at least 2X, any other person who faces the same ?

 

B vitamins are often not very well tolerated for people in withdrawal and most people find them stimulating, especially B vitamin complexes, just looked at the ones you are taking and they are quite strong ones, if wanting to take B vitamins best start with a single vitamin and not complex and work your way up from a very small dose,

2001 - 2005 prozac,  2001 - 2017 various benzos, mainly diazapem and zanex,  2002 - 2017 olanzapine or seroquel,  2002 -2017 propanolol, 2005 - 2009 venlafaxine 75mg , forced to go cold turkey off venlafaxine as moved Thailand, doctor cut me off and couldn't get it there, severely ill for over 2 years, countered withdrawals with more zanex and seroquel

2014 returned to UK, mainly to get treatment getting off meds

doctor advised to taper seroquel over a few weeks, severely ill and bed bed-bound so reinstated it, 2015 tapered seroquel myself slower over a few months, was off it 2 months and was too ill so went on olanzapine, became zombie and too tired to get out of bed, went back on seroquel, very depressed so went back on venlafaxine, didnt work  so doctor swapped to zoloft became very agitated so back on venlafaxine

June 2016 - felt strong enough to begin tapering again, started what I thought was a slow taper of all meds,  2016 July Not had any alcoholic drink since this date, 

2016 October completely off diazepem, 2017 Feb completely off seroquel, 2017 March completely off proponanlol, 2017 April (day before birthday) completely off venlafaxine, OFF ALL MEDS 11/4/2017, was fine for nearly 3 months and then delayed withdrawal hit,

supplements taking: turmeric capsules, NiaCel (nicotinamide riboside), Vit B12 sublingual, Vit B3, Vit B6, Vit B1, apple cider vinegar, manuka umf 10 honey, camu camu powder,  melatonin when needed, epsom salt baths, juices, smoothies, 

Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15175-dj2010-off-all-meds-for-3-months-and-been-fine-now-bad-insomnia/

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B vitamins are often not very well tolerated for people in withdrawal and most people find them stimulating, especially B vitamin complexes, just looked at the ones you are taking and they are quite strong ones, if wanting to take B vitamins best start with a single vitamin and not complex and work your way up from a very small dose,

I took 1 neurobion tablet for 3 days in a row some 20 + days ago, it triggered my tinnitus and am still having it, at a lower rate though. 

1995 to 1997: different antidepressants at maintenance dosages along with benzos 3 times a day.  

1998 to 2000: Citalopram 20mg + Benzo twice daily.

2001 to 2015: Sertraline 50 mg + Alprazolam (half of 0.25 mg once daily which is next to nothing)

2016 to 2017: Sertraline 50 mg + Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg (NO BENZO)

2017 to 2018: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 50 mg  (NO BENZO)

2018 (Earlier): Olanzapine (Zyprexa) 5 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg x 2 daily (7 weeks on Olanzapine was a disaster, antipsychotics are not for panic disorder)

2018 August : Sertraline 50 mg for 20 days (couldn't take it any longer) + Clonazepam.

2018 Sept. 1st week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg -- 2018 Sept. 2nd week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 12.5mg +Clonazepam 0.25 mg 

2018 November: Clonazepam 0.50 mg at night (for sleep disturbed by tinnitus)

2019 January to now: Clonazepam 0.25 mg at night and 0.25 mg in the morning.

Remember: Going out for a Walk or for a Change does help, it may take a few days or weeks or months for some, but it definitely helps.

Here is Knowledge for you: The more you Know about your sickness the more bad it is for you, so forget about it !

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I have wondered, for a while now, if my tinnitus is related to my bruxism. I've been looking them up and they do seem to be related. I brux anyway, but SSRIs make it worse, and I believe that they can trigger bruxism for non-bruxers.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

29 August 2022 - first day of zero!

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/

Current: Armour Thyroid

 

 

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11 hours ago, bubbles said:

I have wondered, for a while now, if my tinnitus is related to my bruxism. I've been looking them up and they do seem to be related. I brux anyway, but SSRIs make it worse, and I believe that they can trigger bruxism for non-bruxers.

 

Yes, SSRIs can cause jaw clenching, as can withdrawal, and that tension is related to tinnitus and other symptoms, such as face and neck pain. Wearing a night guard on your teeth can be very helpful.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I'm actually curious about the night guard @Altostrata as I have one. It's horrible. Massive. I had one, which I trashed with the bruxing - which was fine. After I wrecked that one, she made me this one which I hate. She said it was primarily to avoid dental damage, not to prevent the bruxing. She said occasionally there was a patient for whom they prevented the bruxing entirely, but that was not to be expected. It certainly didn't happen for me!

 

I wonder if the splint (night guard, I think they're the same thing) changes the effect on the muscles etc enough to prevent the headaches and muscle tension. Long before SSRIs I had tinnitus, but was unaware that I was bruxing until the dentist told me I was doing it.

 

I will ask her next time I see her, but for now my bruxing is so minor that I'm just ignoring it.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

29 August 2022 - first day of zero!

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/

Current: Armour Thyroid

 

 

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Yes, the night guard will keep you from cramping your jaw muscles as well. If you don't like the one you have, get another. We have people who have used the cheap ones from Amazon.

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I'll look into it. Thanks. It's so minor now that an Amazon one is probably all I need.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

29 August 2022 - first day of zero!

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/

Current: Armour Thyroid

 

 

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Go to the local sporting good store and get a footballers or wrestlers mouth guard.  They only cost a few dollars and are very easy to fit at home. I used mine for years.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

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Does anyone suffer from this and had it diminish over time?

 

Its a loud vibrating noise, sounds like an engine

 

Its so loud it keeps me awake at night and wakes me up in the night..

2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems

 

Sertaline 2010- 6monnths

 

2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT

 

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On 8/4/2018 at 12:33 AM, jonnypeters1234567 said:

Does anyone suffer from this and had it diminish over time?

 

Its a loud vibrating noise, sounds like an engine

 

Its so loud it keeps me awake at night and wakes me up in the night..

 

Do you take any antidepressant ?

1995 to 1997: different antidepressants at maintenance dosages along with benzos 3 times a day.  

1998 to 2000: Citalopram 20mg + Benzo twice daily.

2001 to 2015: Sertraline 50 mg + Alprazolam (half of 0.25 mg once daily which is next to nothing)

2016 to 2017: Sertraline 50 mg + Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg (NO BENZO)

2017 to 2018: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 50 mg  (NO BENZO)

2018 (Earlier): Olanzapine (Zyprexa) 5 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg x 2 daily (7 weeks on Olanzapine was a disaster, antipsychotics are not for panic disorder)

2018 August : Sertraline 50 mg for 20 days (couldn't take it any longer) + Clonazepam.

2018 Sept. 1st week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg -- 2018 Sept. 2nd week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 12.5mg +Clonazepam 0.25 mg 

2018 November: Clonazepam 0.50 mg at night (for sleep disturbed by tinnitus)

2019 January to now: Clonazepam 0.25 mg at night and 0.25 mg in the morning.

Remember: Going out for a Walk or for a Change does help, it may take a few days or weeks or months for some, but it definitely helps.

Here is Knowledge for you: The more you Know about your sickness the more bad it is for you, so forget about it !

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On 2/13/2012 at 5:19 AM, stillwithdrawing said:

I experienced constant ringing in my ears since starting to withdraw from benzos. It stuck around for about 1.5 years post-withdrawal. It was awful! It's completely gone now, thank god.

 

That's encouraging for me :)

1995 to 1997: different antidepressants at maintenance dosages along with benzos 3 times a day.  

1998 to 2000: Citalopram 20mg + Benzo twice daily.

2001 to 2015: Sertraline 50 mg + Alprazolam (half of 0.25 mg once daily which is next to nothing)

2016 to 2017: Sertraline 50 mg + Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg (NO BENZO)

2017 to 2018: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 50 mg  (NO BENZO)

2018 (Earlier): Olanzapine (Zyprexa) 5 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg x 2 daily (7 weeks on Olanzapine was a disaster, antipsychotics are not for panic disorder)

2018 August : Sertraline 50 mg for 20 days (couldn't take it any longer) + Clonazepam.

2018 Sept. 1st week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg -- 2018 Sept. 2nd week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 12.5mg +Clonazepam 0.25 mg 

2018 November: Clonazepam 0.50 mg at night (for sleep disturbed by tinnitus)

2019 January to now: Clonazepam 0.25 mg at night and 0.25 mg in the morning.

Remember: Going out for a Walk or for a Change does help, it may take a few days or weeks or months for some, but it definitely helps.

Here is Knowledge for you: The more you Know about your sickness the more bad it is for you, so forget about it !

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On 4/30/2017 at 7:40 PM, ikam said:

Hopeful:

 

Does tinnitus ever go away?

Studies have indicated that, even without any ‘treatment’, the noises disappear or at least diminish in the majority of cases, as the brain loses interest in and stops surveying the signal. This process is called ‘habituation’ and it can take several months or years.

Tinnitus can become emotionally distressing in the initial period. This is commonly due to misconceptions as to the cause, prognosis and management of tinnitus.

There is also a general feeling of not being taken seriously by the medical profession. Many are told: ‘It is not serious, there is no cure, and you have to learn to live with it’. It can be argued that this is, to a certain extent true.

In most cases there is not a serious underlying medical condition and you will gradually learn to stop paying attention to the tinnitus noises, in the same way that you ignore all the other ‘predictable’ noises of daily life. Reaction to these sounds are more dependent on your frame of mind and reaction, than the actual sound itself.

 

Thanks for giving me hope :)

 

Here is a thing I want to share with you guys I feel the noise literally going up and down while I am walking, with every step it goes up and down, chemicals moving in the head ? This happens when I take notice of it. 

 

1995 to 1997: different antidepressants at maintenance dosages along with benzos 3 times a day.  

1998 to 2000: Citalopram 20mg + Benzo twice daily.

2001 to 2015: Sertraline 50 mg + Alprazolam (half of 0.25 mg once daily which is next to nothing)

2016 to 2017: Sertraline 50 mg + Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg (NO BENZO)

2017 to 2018: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 50 mg  (NO BENZO)

2018 (Earlier): Olanzapine (Zyprexa) 5 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg x 2 daily (7 weeks on Olanzapine was a disaster, antipsychotics are not for panic disorder)

2018 August : Sertraline 50 mg for 20 days (couldn't take it any longer) + Clonazepam.

2018 Sept. 1st week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg -- 2018 Sept. 2nd week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 12.5mg +Clonazepam 0.25 mg 

2018 November: Clonazepam 0.50 mg at night (for sleep disturbed by tinnitus)

2019 January to now: Clonazepam 0.25 mg at night and 0.25 mg in the morning.

Remember: Going out for a Walk or for a Change does help, it may take a few days or weeks or months for some, but it definitely helps.

Here is Knowledge for you: The more you Know about your sickness the more bad it is for you, so forget about it !

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I had pulsatile tinnitus on walking. I try to ignore it, as it was bothering me so much. I had my ears checked, everything OK, so I try to disconnect from The noise 

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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I woke up around 2:30 am and the ring was quite high, I have one blocked nostril, so I started to blew it with full pressure, after 10 - 20 strong blows I noticed that the ring went down substantially, then I boiled some water and added Vicks balm to it and took that hot steam through my mouth and through my nose now I feel a lot better Ma-Sha-Allah, what do you guys say about this ?

 

I just found out:

https://www.verywellmind.com/it-might-not-be-the-flu-1065528

 

1995 to 1997: different antidepressants at maintenance dosages along with benzos 3 times a day.  

1998 to 2000: Citalopram 20mg + Benzo twice daily.

2001 to 2015: Sertraline 50 mg + Alprazolam (half of 0.25 mg once daily which is next to nothing)

2016 to 2017: Sertraline 50 mg + Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg (NO BENZO)

2017 to 2018: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 50 mg  (NO BENZO)

2018 (Earlier): Olanzapine (Zyprexa) 5 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg x 2 daily (7 weeks on Olanzapine was a disaster, antipsychotics are not for panic disorder)

2018 August : Sertraline 50 mg for 20 days (couldn't take it any longer) + Clonazepam.

2018 Sept. 1st week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg -- 2018 Sept. 2nd week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 12.5mg +Clonazepam 0.25 mg 

2018 November: Clonazepam 0.50 mg at night (for sleep disturbed by tinnitus)

2019 January to now: Clonazepam 0.25 mg at night and 0.25 mg in the morning.

Remember: Going out for a Walk or for a Change does help, it may take a few days or weeks or months for some, but it definitely helps.

Here is Knowledge for you: The more you Know about your sickness the more bad it is for you, so forget about it !

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Hey all,

I think I've got my T onset with Zoloft. I am wondering if this side-effect is just persistent and the sound may fade out after enough time of withdrawal. Can you share your experiences?

All the regimen below have also 100mg of Zoloft:
Apr/20 - 2.5mg V
May/20 - 1.25mg V
May/20 (end of the month) - 1.0mg V
Jun/20 - 0.75mg V
03/08/2020 - 0.70
24/08/2020 - 0.60
22/09/2020 - 0.50
06/10/2020 - 0.40
03/11/2020 - 0.30
16/11/2020 - 150mg Zoloft + 0.30 Valium
sx: Strange burning in points inside my head near the right temple, tinnitus, anxiety and intense intrusive thoughts.

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Hey! Nice to hear that your T has lessened! 
 

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The brain eventually gets used to it.

 

I am familiar with habituation, but do you think the brain can recovery itself to the point that the sound fades away, not just our perception from getting used?

It's so hard to decide if I should keep the drug or start tappering off: right now, my OCD is kinda severe and I do need to control it, but I am not up to pay the price of any persistent or permanent increase in T.

 

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All the regimen below have also 100mg of Zoloft:
Apr/20 - 2.5mg V
May/20 - 1.25mg V
May/20 (end of the month) - 1.0mg V
Jun/20 - 0.75mg V
03/08/2020 - 0.70
24/08/2020 - 0.60
22/09/2020 - 0.50
06/10/2020 - 0.40
03/11/2020 - 0.30
16/11/2020 - 150mg Zoloft + 0.30 Valium
sx: Strange burning in points inside my head near the right temple, tinnitus, anxiety and intense intrusive thoughts.

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Are success stories of this symptom that rare? 🙁

All the regimen below have also 100mg of Zoloft:
Apr/20 - 2.5mg V
May/20 - 1.25mg V
May/20 (end of the month) - 1.0mg V
Jun/20 - 0.75mg V
03/08/2020 - 0.70
24/08/2020 - 0.60
22/09/2020 - 0.50
06/10/2020 - 0.40
03/11/2020 - 0.30
16/11/2020 - 150mg Zoloft + 0.30 Valium
sx: Strange burning in points inside my head near the right temple, tinnitus, anxiety and intense intrusive thoughts.

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I think it's worth mentioning that there are some tinnitus treatments coming to the market in the next years. You can see more about them on the TinnitusTalk forum or then in this reddit sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/tinnitusresearch/

All the regimen below have also 100mg of Zoloft:
Apr/20 - 2.5mg V
May/20 - 1.25mg V
May/20 (end of the month) - 1.0mg V
Jun/20 - 0.75mg V
03/08/2020 - 0.70
24/08/2020 - 0.60
22/09/2020 - 0.50
06/10/2020 - 0.40
03/11/2020 - 0.30
16/11/2020 - 150mg Zoloft + 0.30 Valium
sx: Strange burning in points inside my head near the right temple, tinnitus, anxiety and intense intrusive thoughts.

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I have tinnitus from my first Sertraline /Zoloft withdrawal. It's never fully gone a way, but the good news is I habituated to it and some days struggle to pick out the sound. The vast majority of the time, 98% or so it doesn't bother me, even in really quiet rooms. That really is they key with tinnitus, you just get used to it. 

Citalopram. Briefly early twenties, no ill effects seemingly. Don't remember dose.

 

Sertraline on and off for ten years.  I was ignorant and started and stopped frequently. Doses of 50, 75 and 100. I can not recall/did not record dates prior to 2018.

 

JANUARY 2018: Last period of use was was 150mg of sertraline on 14/01/18  (which triggered extreme depression and anxiety that never settled, amongst other symptoms). I then tapered to 100mg in March (15/03/18), then down to 75mg in April(01/04/18) , 50mg later (11/04/18) 25mg in May  (16/05/18),  and was at 0mg in June (02/06/18).

 

Mirtazapine 15mg 01/08/18- 02/10/18, 15mg (6 weeks at 15mg the two week taper). - caused deeply unpleasant waves of extreme anxiety, depression, zombie state and mania.

 

Still on 40mg of Propranolol twice a day since April 2018. Supplements: Fish oil, Magnesium, Vit B6

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I have this very lightly, never had it before. It's not strong, not everyday but it happens suddenly during the day for a few minutes. I hope it will stop and not get stronger. 

Diagnosed with depressions caused by serotonin imbalance about 14 years ago and been on antidepressants ever since

Sertralin Mepha (Zoloft) 50mg eco - i per day for 14 years

Gone off medication about 3 months ago, without tapering from one day to another.

I do a lot of sport and try to eat very healthily, lots of fresh fruit and vegetables

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If you haven't noticed any hearing loss, don't worry about the tinnitus yet!  Mine got slightly better a few years ago but then got worse again  and unfortunately it has now caused right ear deafness and impaired hearing on my left ear. I now have to use hearing aids in both ears. Thank you very much GSK and  Pfizer! 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357564/

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I had ringing in my ears occasionally, but now it’s becoming more and more frequent. Should I be worried? Is this gonna become permanent? I’m only 27 (almost 28) and I can’t believe all this stuff is happening to me right now. My other symptoms have also gotten worse. Will I ever see a window? I’ve been in a straight wave for 9 months. I just want to cry.

March 2016: Strattera

June 2016: Nothing

October 2016-April 2017:Wellbutrin SR

Mid-March 2017-March 2017 Adderall (9 days)

April 2017: Wellbutrin and Ritalin (7 days)

Mid-April to mid-June: nothing 

early June 2017: Wellbutrin XL

mid-June 2017: Wellbutrin XL, Adderall, and Hydrochlorothiazide (blood pressure); took for two days

Late August: Allegra for two days, then Propranolol

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9 hours ago, Wellbutrinsucks said:

I had ringing in my ears occasionally, but now it’s becoming more and more frequent. Should I be worried? Is this gonna become permanent? I’m only 27 (almost 28) and I can’t believe all this stuff is happening to me right now. My other symptoms have also gotten worse. Will I ever see a window? I’ve been in a straight wave for 9 months. I just want to cry.

 

Hello Wellbutrin sucks,

 

It will get better, with time you'll get used to it.

 

In the beginning I was quite afraid that what will I do if it stays, now it is there but I'm not afraid of it anymore, Alhumdu-lillah.

 

This masking noise works for me, It lowers the tinnitus intensity after listening to it for 30 minutes or so, remember we may need different masking noise, there are plenty available on youtube, this one completely masks my tinnitus, may work for you, if not then listen to others you will find the one that matches your tinnitus, just raise the volume a little more than the noise of your original tinnitus and you'll be fine:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKo4jYDO9FQ

 

And please do not be afraid, little children have it, most of the people who have it wont even complain about it because they are so busy they hardly get time to think about it.

 

1995 to 1997: different antidepressants at maintenance dosages along with benzos 3 times a day.  

1998 to 2000: Citalopram 20mg + Benzo twice daily.

2001 to 2015: Sertraline 50 mg + Alprazolam (half of 0.25 mg once daily which is next to nothing)

2016 to 2017: Sertraline 50 mg + Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg (NO BENZO)

2017 to 2018: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 50 mg  (NO BENZO)

2018 (Earlier): Olanzapine (Zyprexa) 5 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg x 2 daily (7 weeks on Olanzapine was a disaster, antipsychotics are not for panic disorder)

2018 August : Sertraline 50 mg for 20 days (couldn't take it any longer) + Clonazepam.

2018 Sept. 1st week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 25 mg + Clonazepam 0.25 mg -- 2018 Sept. 2nd week: Dosulepin (Prothiaden) 12.5mg +Clonazepam 0.25 mg 

2018 November: Clonazepam 0.50 mg at night (for sleep disturbed by tinnitus)

2019 January to now: Clonazepam 0.25 mg at night and 0.25 mg in the morning.

Remember: Going out for a Walk or for a Change does help, it may take a few days or weeks or months for some, but it definitely helps.

Here is Knowledge for you: The more you Know about your sickness the more bad it is for you, so forget about it !

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