Moderator Emeritus eymen23 Posted January 31, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 31, 2019 @Carmie I changed generics with no cross-over period and I never felt the same after moving over. Because I hadn’t been on the drug long it was so hard to tell if it was the generic or I was just doing worse staying on the drug, probably a bit of both! I think it’s really sensible to gently transition and I’m so glad it’s not causing problems. I wonder if the differing doses from compounding pharmacies can cause heightened waves, I’m sure the body prefers things are as consistent as possible. I’m really careful to take my dose at exactly 11am every day, as when I accidentally took it late a couple of times I was sure it made a difference. Keep up the great work! PLEASE NOTE: I am not a medical professional. I can only provide information and make suggestions. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted January 31, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 31, 2019 I’m excited now! Keith Urban concert tonight. Yeeha!👨🌾🎼🎤🎸🎫💃💃 Looking forward to concerts when I’ve been in severe waves has always been something that has helped me. I’m not in a wave now, but in the past when I was, just knowing I had something fun to look forward to really helped. I’ve got one more concert booked so far this year, 1927 and Belinda Carlisle.Have seen 1927 twice before, they played with a Pseudo Echo both times. Love eighties music. @eymen23 it’s hard to know whether it was changing to generics or it’s the actual medication that caused you problems. I’ve never had a problem changing generics, but some people have. I’m sticking to the same aphapharm brand now though. It takes such a long time though to stabilise from things though once they have affected us. When I’ve been through bad waves I just kept telling myself that they will eventually end. Yes, I’m sure the differing doses of the compounded capsules can cause problems, especially when you’re down to the teeny tiny doses. Again, I was very happy that brassmonkey said it’s best to stick with the original tablets. Some people have no choice but to get compounding formulas, but if you have a choice I think it’s best to stick with the original tablets. That being said, some people have successfully gotten off their meds using compounded formulas too. I’d rather be safe than sorry though. That’s great you take your dose at the same time every day, keep that up. All the best in your healing journey.💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Rabe Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Hi Carmie...so happy to read things are going well and that you will soon be enjoying the music and friends you love so much!! Think of you so much! Have a wonderful time, Carmie!! Love and hugs!!💜 -Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. React to AD's. Klonopin .5BID 1990, 2.5mg til 2016 -Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Taper to 2.25mg May to Nov '16. Bad react to Lexapro, stop. React to Prevacid too, taper off. -November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from Feb to June '17, -20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day -Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17 -Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg 5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded -4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19 -July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, -7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 8.25, 10/24 8.0, 12/19 7.75, Feb '20 7.50, 3/20 7.25, 5/20 7.0, 6/20 6.75, 7/20 6.5, 8/20 6.25, 10/2 20 6.0, 11/25'20 5.75, 1/9/21 5.5, 2/23 5.25 -1015 AM Viibryd, vit D 4,000IU 130, 415 Clonazepam .2mg, 815 Premarin .3mg, 1015 Clonaz .7mg, 1115 3t fish oil+D 1145 Castor Oil 650mg(4) 1230 Carafate 1/2GM,Methylated B Vit 1/week,Reacted Mag prn Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 4:38 PM, Carmie said: Someone on here today mentioned that they took in a few of their compounding capsules to get analysed, and none of them had the same amount in them. that is shocking! Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted February 1, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 1, 2019 Yes it was Oceanrat * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 1, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just documenting: Today will be day six of the third phase of the crossover. It’s still going well. I’ll probably continue to do this for a few more days and then it’s back to my original tablet. Yay! Only one water titration formula to make up every night then. @Rabe Thanks for your kind words. The concert was great! Keith Urban is such an amazing performer, great 🎸 player, as well as singer. He has such an amazing and kind heart too, stardom definitely hasn’t gotten to him. He gave away one of his guitars to a young girl during the show. She’ll have to learn how to play guitar now.😂 He actually grew up here in Brisbane. He’s an Aussie boy. He was born in New Zealand though. He’s very interactive with the audience. It was such a fun night! Went with four friends. @JackieDecides Yes, it certainly is shocking to see the discrepancies in compounding capsules. @ChessieCat Thanks for the link. Take care everyone 💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
neroli Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Hello Carmie Great that you enjoyed the concert - maybe having to rest up now, after the excitement? I hope you're doing ok and that the torrential rain and floods are not affecting you. xxx Neroli 💜 2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013. April 2013 - July 2014 Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine. July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d. February - July 2016 Fluoxetine. Medication free, long term w/d syndrome. 2017 Jan physical breakdown. 2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated. Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN. April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone Tapers: Diazepam 2017 21 August - 30 Dec 21.25mg to 14.5mg 2018 6 Jan - 11 May to 12mg. 2 June updose to 12.25mg - hold. 2019 (0.5mg cuts) 12 Jan - 28 Dec 12mg to 10mg 2020 (0.25mg cuts) - 25 Jan - 29 Dec 9.75mg to 6.25mg 2021 *May have bungled dose and accidentally took 1mg more for about a month (7.25mg), so 4 Jan started again at 6.5mg; 19 Jan 6.25mg; 1 Feb 6.0mg; 23 Feb 5.75mg; 9 Mar 5.5mg; 23 Mar 5.25mg; 9 Apr 5.0mg; 6 May 4.75mg; 13 May 4.5mg; 6 Jun 4mg; 12 July 3.5mg; 2 sep 3.0mg; 15 Sep 2.5mg; 1 Nov 2mg; 15 Nov 1.5mg; 16 Dec 1mg; 26 Dec 0.5mg; 2022 1 Jan - OFF Escitalopram - 2022 1 Mar to 9mg; 29 Mar 8mg; 24 May 7mg; 21 Jun 5mg; 19 Jul 4mg; 1 Sep 3mg; 23 Sep 2.5mg; 31 Oct 1.5mg; 22 Nov 0.5mg; 2023 1 Jan 0.25mg; 1 Mar OFF Nortriptyline 2018 90mg to 2020 1 Dec down to 72.5mg; 2021 20 May 70mg; 8 Jun 67.5mg; 24 Jun 65mg; 31 July 60mg; 12 Oct 55mg; 23 Oct 50mg; 2022 13 Jan 40mg; 22 Jan 30mg; 29 Mar 20mg; 26 Apr 10mg; 3 Aug 5mg; 23 Sep 2.5mg; 2023 1 Jan - OFF 1 March 2023 - off all drugs - 6-year taper off three drugs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 2, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 2, 2019 Hi Neroli, Thanks for dropping by. Yes, I spent all day Friday in bed, and then half of Saturday in bed too. Was well worth it! I spend a lot of time in bed anyway, even when I haven’t done much at all. One’s battery is almost on empty with CFS, but when you do too much it ends up being on zero and you can barely move at all. I think it’s another day in bed for me today. I’m in good spirits though. No, we haven’t had much rain here. It’s been quite warm, but I have airconditioning in the bedroom. It can get quite humid up here. Next week some time I’ll be back to my original tablet, and I will only have to make up one water titration every night. Phew! I was so brain dead last night and I didn’t want to make a mistake, so I actually said each step outloud as I was doing it. That helped with my thoughts. The first night that I had to do two different water titrations I actually wrote down the steps as I was doing them so I wouldn’t get them muddled up. My brain fog just gets so bad, and I don’t know what’s up or down. Hope you’re coping okay.💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
direstraits Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 glad you enjoyed the concert, @Carmie! now take it easy and get your strength back. sending lots of love and hugs. ds went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 3, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 3, 2019 Hi @direstraits Yes, it’s time for me to rest n get some strength back. I’m in bed today, struggling to do much at all. I’m in good spirits though. I’m going to watch some DVDs in a minute. I’ve got the aircon on, and my cat is asleep on the bed near me. I keep wanting to do other things, but my brain just won’t let me. It’s time to watch some mind numbing dvds.🤣🤣 I don’t have Netflix in the bedroom, only in the loungeroom. I would have loved to have gone to the beach🌊🌊 today, but I can barely stand up. Hope you’ve managed to get to the beach some time this week.💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Tom37 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 You can have Keith Urban and Russel Crowe if you want but you will never have pavlova!😊 Glad you enjoyed the concert. 20mg Lexapro 2007 10mg Lexapro 2012 Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3. Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction. Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October. Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 2018 Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov. Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November 2018 Link to comment
direstraits Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Carmie said: Hi @direstraits Yes, it’s time for me to rest n get some strength back. I’m in bed today, struggling to do much at all. I’m in good spirits though. I’m going to watch some DVDs in a minute. I’ve got the aircon on, and my cat is asleep on the bed near me. I keep wanting to do other things, but my brain just won’t let me. It’s time to watch some mind numbing dvds.🤣🤣 I don’t have Netflix in the bedroom, only in the loungeroom. I would have loved to have gone to the beach🌊🌊 today, but I can barely stand up. Hope you’ve managed to get to the beach some time this week.💚 I hope you enjoyed your DVDs...aren't kitties the best,we have 2 and they've brought me so much comfort through this horrible ordeal.😺😺 hope you can get to the beach soon,we plan on going Tuesday when it's supposed to hit 62F. 🌊 can't wait,it's been very cold and windy here lately.🌬️ take care,ds 💙💙🤗 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 15 hours ago, Carmie said: I’m in bed today, struggling to do much at all. I'm glad you have DVDs to watch and are in good spirits.❤️ I am having a very slow morning today, not as bad as in bed but not getting much done. I haven't even caught up on SA! I scheduled a time this afternoon to come back and read up here. 34 minutes ago, direstraits said: we plan on going Tuesday when it's supposed to hit 62F oh, that sounds NICE, which ocean are you on? Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
direstraits Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 hours ago, JackieDecides said: I'm glad you have DVDs to watch and are in good spirits.❤️ I am having a very slow morning today, not as bad as in bed but not getting much done. I haven't even caught up on SA! I scheduled a time this afternoon to come back and read up here. oh, that sounds NICE, which ocean are you on? Atlantic, beautiful Jersey Shore.😊🌊 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 4, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 4, 2019 Hi @direstraits @JackieDecides @Tom37 Thanks for popping around. Hope you’re all coping as best you can today. I have a little more strength today, though I’m still in bed at the moment and it’s 11am. I have had my shower🚿 though, and I think I’ll have the strength to get out n run a few errands later on. Enjoy your day at the beach direstraits. There really is something comforting about the beach. I think we all need to get out in nature more. Being around nature is just so soothing and a major help when going through withdrawals. Water in particular I find soothing, whether it’s the beach, a creek, a river, a lake etc. There’s something about the sound of water that is so magnificent too, whether it’s the crashing waves, the sound of rushing waters, the trickling of a stream or the rain. Just awesome!🏞🏝🌊💦 Tom, your comment made me laugh. Pavlova! Yummy! I was actually born in Germany. Take care everyone 💚💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 4, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 4, 2019 Hi everyone, Just read this about technology and I thought I’d share: “ The modern technology that we have access to is nothing short of revolutionary, and can be both an incredible tool as well as a chronic stressor for our bodies. It isn’t the particular technology itself that is “good” or “bad, “ but the habits that we develop around how we use it. If you are someone who sleeps with your phone interrupting you with a series of notifications throughout the night, checks emails first thing in the morning when you wake up or before bed, and cannot go to a social event without pulling out your phone every five minutes, you may have some work to do in cultivating a healthier relationship with technology. Screens found on televisions, computers and devices such as tablets and smartphones all emit blue-spectrum light that is disruptive to your circadian rhythm. Exposure to this spectrum of light after dark can be a stressor to your body, as it disrupts your natural hormonal balance and interferes with sleep. This isn’t the only way technology is a stressor - being connected to your work and social life 24/7 can be incredibly depleting. Our brains need time off from the constant barrage of to-do lists, emails, messages, updates and notifications.” Here’s to being more balanced when it comes to technology, especially when going through withdrawals as our nervous systems are already hyped up. 💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
DMV64 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Hi Carmie! How are you today? I like your post on balancing out technology! I find I am either immersed or totally off. 2001- Klonopin 0.125 mg. 2011- increase to 1 mg. 2018- increase to 1.5 mg. Taper 2023-2024. Taper complete! 2010- Trials of SSRI's, several. 2011- Saphris 5 mg. CT. 6/2017- retry Saphris 5 mg sublingual, begin taper August 2020 10% taper with scale, and final taper liquid sublingual, August 2019- taper complete! 2011- Geodon 20 mg. Begin taper Sept 2019. 10% liquid taper. 2020: December-5 mg. 2021: Jan-4.5mg. (held Feb.for vacation). March-4mg. Apr-3.6mg. May-3.2mg. June-2.8mg. (Held July for vacation). Aug-2.4mg. Sept.- 2.2mg. Oct. 2mg. Dec 2022 - Taper complete! 2011- Gabapentin 300 mg to present- 2020. Increase 2023 to 400mg. 2014- Vyvanse 20 mg, 2020- Vyvanse 5 mg. Increase August 2022 20mg. CT (unavailable) 4/2023 2016- Lithium 300 mg, June 2016 - FT. 2017- Cogentin 0.5 mg. June-August 2019- off Cogentin. 2018- Lamictal 300mg. Holding 2021 - Hydroxyzine 30mg. Holding. 2014 Omeprazole 20 mg and holding, Omega 3's/fish oil, Magnesium Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 5, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 5, 2019 13 hours ago, DMV64 said: Hi Carmie! How are you today? I like your post on balancing out technology! I find I am either immersed or totally off. Hi DMV, Thanks for dropping around. How are you doing today? I’m stuck in bed, but I’m quite chipper. Speaking of technology, I think it’s time to put my iPad down now. I’ve spent the morning on SA. Yes, technology can ramp up our symptoms. I’ve stopped interacting with friends on social media as I didn’t think it was good for my nervous system. I love photography but I can email them photos when I want to anyway. The one one thing I really want to stop doing is reaching for my iPad as soon as I wake up. I will get there!😂 Take care💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 5, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 5, 2019 Okay, I’ve got the giggles now. I think if we don’t laugh we would cry. Why am I giggling? Maybe I’m going crazy because of the torture we are going through??? Seriously, I’m quite sane. I just wish all you beautiful people weren’t going through this. I’ve spent the morning on SA and it just heartbreaking what everyone is going through. I really wish I could take all your pain away. It is so upsetting to see everyone going through such pain, avoidable pain if the doctors stuck to their “do no harm” oath. They still think they’ve done us no harm, and are doing us no harm. 🙄 I don’t have any anger towards anyone, as it doesn’t serve a purpose. I’m quite contented within myself and I’m just focusing on what I can do to keep moving forward. All I want to say is hang in there everyone, we will all be success stories one day💚💚💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 5, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 5, 2019 I’m going to be off this site for a little while now. I just found out this evening that my dad died. He wasn’t a nice person, and treated us kids badly. I need time to process my feelings and give myself a bit of self care. Am bawling at the moment. Take care everyone 💚💚💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Carmie said: I’m going to be off this site for a little while now. I just found out this evening that my dad died. He wasn’t a nice person, and treated us kids badly. I need time to process my feelings and give myself a bit of self care. Am bawling at the moment. Take care everyone 💚💚💚 I'm so sorry for your loss. even a bad parent is still your parent! take all the time you need, come back when you want to. big hugs to you. ❤️ Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
wantrelief Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I am very sorry for your loss, Carmie. Take good care, WR. -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg Link to comment
direstraits Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 so sorry for your loss...my dad was very difficult to live with,too. take extra good care of you. sending the biggest hug,you'll be in my thoughts. love,ds❤️ went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
mdwstrx Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I'm sorry for your loss, Carmie. Please take care of yourself. 💕 1997 Prozac ?mg 1991 Sertraline ?mg 2002 Escitalopram 10 mg 2018 2.5 mg - stopped by Dr./Reinstated, up-dosed to 7.5 mg 04/19 Began BM slide @7.5 mg CURRENT 0.34 mg 🌼 "If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth." Mark 9:23 Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Carmie, You are in my thoughts. Be good to yourself, especially during this difficult time. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Survivor1 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 So sorry to hear. I'm thinking of you ... PAST Gabapentin: about 6 months in 2015, 300-900 mg, cold turkeyed Sept 2015 (at same time dc'd Klonopin) Klonopin: June 2014- Sept 2015; 1mg tapered over 6 mths, dc'd at 0.25mg, withdrawal hellish (perhaps because of concurrent dc of gabapentin) Mirtazepine: Jumped off at 2.4 mg. (stable in 8 months). Seroquel: June 14 - July 24, 2016, 25 mg alternate nights; smaller doses for shorter periods. Total use about 3 months Lamictal: March 19, 2018 - 1 mg; March 23 - 1.25 mg; April 6 - 2mg. Discontinued at 2 mgJuly 1, 2018 due to Steven Johnson Syndrome. CURRENT Supplements: Vit D, turmeric Naturethroid: 65 mcg for hypothyroidism Trazodone: Oct 2015 - June 2016; 75 mg tapered over 2 mths, intense w/d after 3 weeks. Reinstatement: 07/25/16 - 25 mg; updosed 08/03/16 - 50 mg; 10/01/16- 62mg; 03/24/17 dropped to 50 mg (stable in 2.5 months) Current psych meds: Trazodone 50 mg Link to comment
Rosetta Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I'm sorry to hear this. A big hug, Carmie. --Rosetta https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25 2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born) 2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg 2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction) 2016 - Stopped Xanax Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown) Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone Drug free since Feb 2017 2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep Link to comment
Marmot Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Look after yourself Carmie. Take as long as you need ❤️ 2004: Clonazepam and Celexa. 2005 - 2006: Effexor, then increased to high dose, then switched to Valproate and Seroquel. 2007: Wellbutrin + Strattera + Celexa. 2007 - 2008: Wellbutrin + Adderall + Paxil. 2008 - 2012: Wellbutrin + occasional SSRIs when I had worsened "depression", which happened around 4 times, usually after CT of WB. 2012 - 2014: WB + Sertraline, then WB + Pristiq (awful W/D) then WB + rTMS, then ketamine. 2014 - 2016: Wellbutrin 200 mg + Abilify 4 mg + Adderall 20-40 mg + Cipralex 20 mg. Oct 2016: "Tapered" Cipralex, felt outrageously anxious, irritable. Dec 2016: "Tapered" Adderall, then felt depressed, hopeless, fatigued. Feb 6 2017: reinstated 20 mg Adderall. Mar 2017: switched to Vyvanse, upped to 30 mg. May - Aug 2017: "Tapered" Vyvanse + Abilify to zero. Oct 25, 2017: Wellbutrin from 200 to 100 mg. Sep 10, 2018: Wellbutrin from 90 to 60 mg. Oct 29, 2018: WB from 60 to 50 mg. Dec 19, 2018: WB from 50 to 45 mg. Apr 15, 2019: WB 41 mg. May 14, 2019: WB 37 mg. Jun 8, 2019: WB 33 mg. Jul 22: WB 30 mg, then down by around 10% per month. Aug 2020: 0 Working hard to take my life back. Anything I say here is as a friend or peer supporter; it is not medical advice. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted February 6, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 6, 2019 (((((Carmie))))) ❤️ Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
bheb Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I’m so sorry Carmie. Loss can be so hard even when things were not necessarily good. Healing to you Aug-Dec 2015 Prozac 20mg / Dec 2015-Feb 2016 Prozac 15mg / Feb 2016-May2016 Prozac 20mg May 2016-June 2016 15mg June 2016-August 2016 10mg October 2016-January 2017 15mg, alternating agitation/akathisia sets in --> cold turkey January 2017 Clonazepam .5mg February 2017 Clonazepam 1mg (for a week) then .5mg morning and .25mg evening for about a month. Came down to .25mg morning and evening. May 1, 2017 Clonazepam .25mg morning and .125mg evening. // May 20, 2017 Clonazepam .25mg morning and .0625 evening (.3125 total). early June .28125 // early mid june .25mg // mid june .21875 // late june .1875 // early july .15625 // early mid july .125 mid july .09375mg // late july .0625 //early August 2017 down to .03125mg once a day, hopped off in mid August reinstated at .0625mg late August // Oct 16 - updose to .07mg and switch to oral Rosemont solution Nov 17 2017 reinstate Prozac .5mg // Nov 21 2017 prozac 1.6mg // Dec 18 2017 3mg prozac / fast taper off the reinstatement -- probably completely off early Oct 2018 June 2019 begin tapering off .07mg Clonazepam, Finish taper December 2019 Link to comment
neroli Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Hello Carmie So sorry to hear that your dad died - however the relationship is, I still think it's a big thing when your parent dies. Thinking of you. lots of love xx Neroli 💜 2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013. April 2013 - July 2014 Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine. July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d. February - July 2016 Fluoxetine. Medication free, long term w/d syndrome. 2017 Jan physical breakdown. 2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated. Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN. April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone Tapers: Diazepam 2017 21 August - 30 Dec 21.25mg to 14.5mg 2018 6 Jan - 11 May to 12mg. 2 June updose to 12.25mg - hold. 2019 (0.5mg cuts) 12 Jan - 28 Dec 12mg to 10mg 2020 (0.25mg cuts) - 25 Jan - 29 Dec 9.75mg to 6.25mg 2021 *May have bungled dose and accidentally took 1mg more for about a month (7.25mg), so 4 Jan started again at 6.5mg; 19 Jan 6.25mg; 1 Feb 6.0mg; 23 Feb 5.75mg; 9 Mar 5.5mg; 23 Mar 5.25mg; 9 Apr 5.0mg; 6 May 4.75mg; 13 May 4.5mg; 6 Jun 4mg; 12 July 3.5mg; 2 sep 3.0mg; 15 Sep 2.5mg; 1 Nov 2mg; 15 Nov 1.5mg; 16 Dec 1mg; 26 Dec 0.5mg; 2022 1 Jan - OFF Escitalopram - 2022 1 Mar to 9mg; 29 Mar 8mg; 24 May 7mg; 21 Jun 5mg; 19 Jul 4mg; 1 Sep 3mg; 23 Sep 2.5mg; 31 Oct 1.5mg; 22 Nov 0.5mg; 2023 1 Jan 0.25mg; 1 Mar OFF Nortriptyline 2018 90mg to 2020 1 Dec down to 72.5mg; 2021 20 May 70mg; 8 Jun 67.5mg; 24 Jun 65mg; 31 July 60mg; 12 Oct 55mg; 23 Oct 50mg; 2022 13 Jan 40mg; 22 Jan 30mg; 29 Mar 20mg; 26 Apr 10mg; 3 Aug 5mg; 23 Sep 2.5mg; 2023 1 Jan - OFF 1 March 2023 - off all drugs - 6-year taper off three drugs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus elbee Posted February 6, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 6, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 6:46 AM, Carmie said: I’m going to be off this site for a little while now. I just found out this evening that my dad died. He wasn’t a nice person, and treated us kids badly. I need time to process my feelings and give myself a bit of self care. Carmie, the passing of a parent in a family with dysfunction can bring up a lot of mixed feelings for sure. When my mom died, I was not only dealing with her actual death, but the dying of a story. From a very early age, I thought that she might one day be the "healthy" mom I really wanted her to be. When she died, I knew that story was over. This isn't an easy time, but if you're "bawling" that means there is emotional movement . . . a sign perhaps that you have begun the incredibly important grieving process. Lots of difficult emotions may come up. It's good for me to hear you are focusing on self-care. Go gently with yourself 🙏❤️ My suggestions are not medical advice. They are my opinions based on my own experience, strength and hope. You are in charge of your own medical / healing / recovery choices. My success story | My introduction thread ZOLOFT FREE - COMPLETELY DRUG FREE 4/28/2019! - total time on 28+ years BENZO FREE! 4/7/2018 - total time on 27+ years REMERON FREE! 12/11/2016 - total time on 15 months Caffeine & Nicotine Free 2014 / 2015 - smoked for 28 years Alcohol Free 4/1/2014 - drank for 30 years Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus eymen23 Posted February 7, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 7, 2019 I’m so sorry to hear this Carmie. Please take all the time you need. My thoughts are with you. 💚 PLEASE NOTE: I am not a medical professional. I can only provide information and make suggestions. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 7, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 7, 2019 Hi @JackieDecides @wantrelief @direstraits @mdwstrx @Gracee @Survivor1 @Rosetta @Marmot @manymoretodays @bheb @neroli @elbee @eymen23 Just wanted to say say thank you soooo much for all your kind messages. I just need a week or so to deal with things. It’s not just my dad’s death, there’s lots of other stuff too. I really, really appreciate you all thinking of me💚💚💚💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
neroli Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 We'll be thinking of you while you get things dealt with and send you love and best wishes. xxxxx Neroli 💜 2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013. April 2013 - July 2014 Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine. July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d. February - July 2016 Fluoxetine. Medication free, long term w/d syndrome. 2017 Jan physical breakdown. 2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated. Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN. April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone Tapers: Diazepam 2017 21 August - 30 Dec 21.25mg to 14.5mg 2018 6 Jan - 11 May to 12mg. 2 June updose to 12.25mg - hold. 2019 (0.5mg cuts) 12 Jan - 28 Dec 12mg to 10mg 2020 (0.25mg cuts) - 25 Jan - 29 Dec 9.75mg to 6.25mg 2021 *May have bungled dose and accidentally took 1mg more for about a month (7.25mg), so 4 Jan started again at 6.5mg; 19 Jan 6.25mg; 1 Feb 6.0mg; 23 Feb 5.75mg; 9 Mar 5.5mg; 23 Mar 5.25mg; 9 Apr 5.0mg; 6 May 4.75mg; 13 May 4.5mg; 6 Jun 4mg; 12 July 3.5mg; 2 sep 3.0mg; 15 Sep 2.5mg; 1 Nov 2mg; 15 Nov 1.5mg; 16 Dec 1mg; 26 Dec 0.5mg; 2022 1 Jan - OFF Escitalopram - 2022 1 Mar to 9mg; 29 Mar 8mg; 24 May 7mg; 21 Jun 5mg; 19 Jul 4mg; 1 Sep 3mg; 23 Sep 2.5mg; 31 Oct 1.5mg; 22 Nov 0.5mg; 2023 1 Jan 0.25mg; 1 Mar OFF Nortriptyline 2018 90mg to 2020 1 Dec down to 72.5mg; 2021 20 May 70mg; 8 Jun 67.5mg; 24 Jun 65mg; 31 July 60mg; 12 Oct 55mg; 23 Oct 50mg; 2022 13 Jan 40mg; 22 Jan 30mg; 29 Mar 20mg; 26 Apr 10mg; 3 Aug 5mg; 23 Sep 2.5mg; 2023 1 Jan - OFF 1 March 2023 - off all drugs - 6-year taper off three drugs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 8, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just popping in briefly to document that I went back to my original tablet last night, so far all good. I did the third phase of the crossover for ten days. I did each phase for more than a week, I just wanted to be safe. Only have to do one water titration every night now. Woohoo!!🎉🎉 I haven’t had any problems with the crossover at all, but I still won’t taper straight away, I’ll give it a bit more time. Just had a weighted blanket delivered, tried it, love it! I got it off eBay for around $100 Australian. I tried some magnesium the other day, but that didn’t like me so much. Will keep experimenting with that though. @neroli Thanks for your kinds thoughts.💚 Hope everyone is coping as best they can, sending lots of hugs🤗🤗🤗 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
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