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I  wanted of prozac was on it 9 months  last dose was 20 mgs off   30 days dr said  ok to stop self tapper.  I  know i don't  know if  have wd  from  the from prozac or my slow tapper K pin  after two months use 1.5mg to .125 mg i stopped to day  after trying to get on another AD which  was horrible experience 

 

 

 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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Welcome, bluepm.

 

How long have you been off Prozac? How do you feel now?

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 I stopped  taking prozac   about  about 40 days now  was on it for nine months  at started at 20 the up to 40 mg then drop to 20 mg felt better by doing that it was causing me anxiety again 1/1/18 after the flu.  i tried to switch celexa which went south  with K-pin to help transition needless to say  that did not work for two weeks went  back Prozac that did not work out at 20 mgs so DR told to stop Prozac  so i did  he told me  its self tapering as well i was a  low does..  back to K-pin i started that end  jan  27 18  was up 1.5 mg for two weeks stated to taper ever week 25 %    until I got down .125 for 8 days. last days  off threes days since 4 /10 /18  i have/had  wd systems while  tapering they less  in severity  my Phyc told to stop as well don't take any more which good i don't  want take it poison  any more.

 

I think pill going solve my problems so started  fluvoxamine 25 mg few ago i was nervous again  first day. what read through treads starting  a another antidepressants dose not really solve anything looks it makes  things worse .  one  day stopped is was making me  agitated.  ( any comment on this )

 

I  am still taking 7.5 mg off remeron  ( 12 months)  and  PRN 100 mg nurton to  help the withdrawals  at night it help WD shaking in morning  has stopped  really I  only have anxiety  WD  I not shaking any more but have anxiety in the morning.

 

I also vistaril   25 mg every 6 to help with anxiety  as required does very little. 

 

so what's going on   i have anxiety still after five  days after stopping the K-pin at .125 after 8 day taper.  well the stop in next week or so 

 

i well keep taking remeron  and PRN 100 mg nurton i sleep  at least 7 hours night.

 

any supplements to reduce the anxiety ? 

 

any advise  here 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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40 days off prozac how do feel i have anxiety that's why stopped  I was having anxiety at 20 mg tried  i told DR he did not have much to say about ,switch  over  celeax  that went bad, back to Prozac  20 mg  a week or two  could not handled  it  that in process i was given K-pin at .5 mg three times  day  too weeks  I new that was going work out so I    tapered down on .125 mg and  the past seven days stopped .  all taking right 7.5 mg mertizazapine  and 100mf nurton as need i stop shacking morning. I have hydronzine  .25mg take as needed 

 

whats the groups have to say about  cbd oil ? 

 

 

blue PM

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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 i watched video feed good for you for standing up    :D

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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On 4/16/2018 at 2:01 PM, bluepm said:

whats the groups have to say about  cbd oil ? 

 

Hi, bluepm.

 

CBD oil is a hit or a miss - some people find it helpful, but others find it to cause more problems. Here's a thread with members discussing it:

 

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thanks you  are right on  about the CBD oil. 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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i am doing better i am off k-pin 90 days  the only thing i am taking know   is mertazpine 7.5 mg reducing i never  took over 15 mg for long time  80% time 7.5 mg  for 12 months   

 

found this tapper schedule on CITA site  see attachment 

 

every two week s   reductions  7.5 mg, 6.5 mg, 5.5 mg, 4.2mg,  3.3mg ,2.1 mg and 1.7mg. total 14 weeks 

 

skipping days the 7.5 mg  starting one and increasing skipped days   as week go by.

 

i know your protocol 10%  drop every four weeks  see attachment 

 

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SSRI-Tablesf.pdf

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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i agree with you  

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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i am doing better i am off k-pin 90 days  the only thing i am taking know   is mertazpine 7.5 mg reducing i never  took over 15 mg for long time  80% time 7.5 mg  for 12 months   

 

found this tapper schedule on CITA site  see attachment 

 

every two week s   reductions  7.5 mg, 6.5 mg, 5.5 mg, 4.2mg,  3.3mg ,2.1 mg and 1.7mg. total 14 weeks 

 

skipping days the 7.5 mg  starting one and increasing skipped days   as week go by.

 

i know your protocol 10%  drop every four weeks  see attachment 

 

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SSRI-Tablesf.pdf

 

Why are you tapering mirtazapine now? Are all your withdrawal symptoms gone?

 

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i don't  want be  on any  AD  anymore.   Also cita site is closed down now . its something I found internet.  but your site seems to have more experienced people  that have work the 10% method.   

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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What is your daily symptom pattern? If you go off mirtazapine too soon, sleep problems can come back.

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the biggest problem is morning anxiety just stated up again skipping the day dossing  . i am going to stay 3.5mg for few weeks  and see if things clear up . i spoke to pharmacist today he also  said to tapper off   mertizapine  slowly as well not  to c/t . i kept on RX for last to tapper off since  it helped me sleep and first one i was on . during entire array prescription  RX . I got sleep AP  machine for breathing during  sleep after i took sleep study test.  ( well this help me ? )   I  have app on my phone use sleep cycle to monitor my sleep   i can see if  i am getting deep sleep.

 

side note my plan was never to stay RX for long period of time   only recommended 6 month to year .   

 

AD site has lot good information that is helpful 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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 I am  back again  yesterday  i very anxious in morning  but managed.  Eating less but eating three light meals a day .    I went for a walk with my dogs 3 miles in evening.  I was fine after the walk with my dogs   went bed 10;30 pm  got  up 3;30 am  went back  to sleep got up at 5 am  my sleep app said  two session of deep sleep . ( i walk my my dogs everyday  1 to 3 miles)     I took 3.5 mg mertizapine  the night before  to try stabilize the week of every other day 7.5 mg.   of mertizapine .    last night i took about 4 mg mert .   Today in morning i  feel anxious trying to easy my mind    but not as bad as yesterday.   so what the next steps go back up 7.5  meg or hold at 3.5 mg two more days  for 30 days then taper down  10% for four weeks at a time ?  what our my options or recommendations.  

 

 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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How do forget about bad past events  ?   I know stay in the present moment   please see my other post post above   

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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On 7/17/2018 at 1:42 PM, bluepm said:

I got sleep AP  machine for breathing during  sleep after i took sleep study test.  ( well this help me ? ) 

 

If you have sleep apnea, using the CPAP machine should help. You need to get it set up properly, work with your sleep doctor.

 

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my sleep AP  machine is mentored by my doctor  i have longer sleep times now  on the machine  and machine adjusted by DR. thanks  

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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Need some help here the last two days  my anxiety is up ,   no appetite,  and kind of hot   i woke  up this morning sweating , i feel better in evening I  walking my dogs every day working around the yard ect staying active  as stated  July 19  would take 3.5 mg  mirt.  every day  after tapering down in from 7.5  dropping 1 mg every two weeks  I am holding 3.5 mg the past three weeks.  could i be having Protracted withdrawals from the other  rx i was taking its been  four months since my last z durg     which tapered  off and   five month since stopping Prozac. 

 

 

Can ibuprofen cause anxiety  ?  

 

suggestions  

 

 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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On 7/19/2018 at 1:02 PM, bluepm said:

How do forget about bad past events  ?   I know stay in the present moment   please see my other post post above   

I’m by no means qualified to answer that, however I highly recommend downloading a mindfulness app or even watching YouTube videos on guided meditation. Best of luck!

Trying to taper from fluoxetine. 

Taking 60 mg between 2002 and 01 April, 2018.

Dropped to 50 mg between 01 April and 07 April 2018

Dropped to 40 mg between 07 April and 01 July 2018

Dropped to 36 mg on 01 July, 2018

Dropped to 33 mg on 15 September 2018

Dropped to 30 mg on 15 October 2018

Dropped to 27 mg on 15 November 2018

Dropped to 25 mg on 15 December 2018

Dropped to 20 mg on 15 January 2019

Dropped to 18 mg on 01 July 2019

Dropped to 17 mg on 01 August 2019

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Have question some days i feel ok the other I feel like I  have  hot spells is  this common with WD's  ?   

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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how much do water do i need to  taper of 3.5 mg mert.  i have 5 ml syringe  I want start  10 %  3.5 mg   so how much  water do need   to mix up 3,5 mg  ?  

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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Hi Bluepm--  There are some good instructions on making your own liquid in the tapering section of the forum.  But for right now you should be thinking more about getting yourself stable on your current dose rather than tapering any further. You've made a lot of large changes in a lot of different drug in the past year and a half, all of that needs to srot itself out before you make any more changes. The symptoms you describe show that you are not stable yet and need to ride it out for a while.  The symptoms will come and go as they please for no reason at all making it a very rocky and unpredictable process  This is a very slow process where you need to think in terms of many months instead of days and weeks.

 

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20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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thanks for the replay  that's what i was thinking my self  to hold but up dose to 4  mg of mert.  than start 10 % reduction in few months this the is RX I  have been longest  and 80% OF THE time 7.5 mg . the liquid taper would be  7.5 ml water and 7.5  of tablet  correct  .  note i started my taper mert 6/1/18  started having problems  when  skipping does every other day  does came down 4.2 MG AVG  AND 3.5 MG AVG  

How do i get  stable on my current dose ?  do i work  my way back up 7.5 mg  ? 

 

i am only taking mert. now nothing else.

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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For now just sit tight on your current dose, same time each day, every day.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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ok thanks  

 

i go to bed at 10 pm- 10;30 pm every night   take my  mert. at that time

the last  two morning wake up at  3 am  could not go back  to sleep , other mornings waking at 4 am and 4;30 am   and sometimes waking at 12;30 am and going back to bed this been going for a while   

I drink some coffee in morning then tired again 

 today last three days  no appetite , but i eating some food  

i am restless  past three days can' t relax accept in the evening 

i walked my dogs three miles yesterday  in the evening  ( walked million steps this year already)   work around the house  when i can 

i work from home so  i am still employed 

i worry about nothing ,  How do stop that ? 

the past year 1  1/2 has been nothing but bid upset taking these rxs   ( there was good period though when i was prozac though  say 6/17 to 1/18 then down hill  after 1/31/18)   I wanted to tapper off prozac once felt better but dr did not allow it  and  there office does not   taper at 10 %. method.    It was bad  2/18 through  5/ 18 once since  stopped prozac then tried to switch  to new  SSRI's more then one ( not more then two weeks at time)  but decided thats not working out  started z-drug again  to switch to new ssri  which i new was bad  idea and  new i could not take  z-drug for  an extended period of time   did taper off z-rx  best i could with help of the internet  the doctors did not help that much.    sorry for repeating this again  

in May a I just said i would stay the mert.  at 7.5 mg only  so i could sleep at night and this  was the rx  i was on the longest .

 

 i noticed when   i dropped 4.2 mg   to 3.5 mg  i was more anxious  it leveled  out for  few days but got axions  again  (past three days)  

 

last note i think maybe it to soon to stop taking the mert do to fact had   WD from   z-drug  i am lot better now  though  then before  but not my old self . 

 

I had all the blood tests done by my doctor  this year  did not find anything  wrong me  .

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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 I told  my primary  Dr. today what i  was doing tapering off mert.  he agreed to go slow  and hold were feel good at and that's it !!!  I also  told him i am not interested   any  more ploy drugs and he  agreed  his repose  was you do no t do well on them  we had conversation before and his repose was some people  do well on them other do not that's  because primary  Dr see all types people   . but the phyc doctor said we still have not found right medicine .  He was  good phyc  doctor he did not go  over board  the meds either  his goal  was be on one  drug at time.

 

went  to bed 10 pm 

this morning up 4 am  with wake 2 am back to sleep  

anxious in the morning after coffee

working 

eating but no as much 

have to stop   reading other  people story's dos not help me 

 

any comments well be be  helpful

 

 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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brass monkey 

 hold 3.5 mg  for how long and when do up dose if necessary ?  

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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From what I see in your signature you've cut your dose by 75% over the past four months.  That is a huge reduction and it will take a long time to stabilize.  Three months would be a minimum to wait before reevaluating and it may take a lot longer.  As for updosing, that would only stir the pot. I wouldn't consider it unless your symptoms are totally debilitating.  For right now you should work on your coping techniques and ride it out.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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brass monkey   i sorry  my typo i taking 3.75 mg half  off 7.5 mg  i started the taper on 6/1/18   started  3.75 on 7/9/18 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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update

 

daily daily symptom pattern  past three days 

 

sleep ok some  sometimes waking at 12;30  am then going to bed, then waking 4;30; am    one night  my sleep app had the enter night  in deep sleep that never happen in past  584 days since AP's. 

 

mornings anxious but starts to despite in the afternoon  around 12 pm and on.

 light headness  eating goes away 

my activities 

walking  my doges

working around the yard 

trying to stay busy  

 

I am holding the at  mert. 3.75mg splinting the pills.  past three weeks  not skipping days 

taking Magnesium oxide 500 mg a day 

taking fish oil  6 caps 16000 mg  a day omga 3-6-9  1600 mg,   150 mg of epa and dha 100 mg ,6 420 mg , 9 150 mg 

How fast  does Magnesium  work to calm you ? 

 

please provide some tips on how eliminate the  mornings anxious by eating right food , excerise ,ect     i drink coffee i was drinking before the  RX was making tried in morning.   I used to big coffee drinker i cut back  a lot the past  two years.

 

whats the best Magnesium to buy  and fish  oil ? 

 

   

 

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How fast  does Magnesium  work to calm you

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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I need some help  I have been at   3.75 mg  Mertizipine   since  7/9/18  i tapered down   50 % in 8 weeks    My mornings  anxious  and is not  letting up afternoons  are   better.   i wake at up   2, 3, 4 am but got back to sleep then  get up 5 am , eating less , i woke  this morning sweating 

 Can i up does back 7.5 mg  ?  then start tapering again ?  

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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