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What symptoms do you attribute to "z-drug withdrawal"? 

 answer anxiety, negative thoughts, peroined   (shaking hands  sweating shaking    i don't  have systemps no more ) 

 

What happened to the mirtazapine?

answer  still taking 7.5 mg want increase dose to 15 mg ? a lot BB take Mrit while WD from z-drug  do not plan to stop any time soon myby start tapering may 2019 

 

no more Prozac and no more z-durgs. Prozac give me anxiety had to use Z-durg to get on it before. 

 

My Phyc DR recommended 2mg off abilify it seems to be working i have some anxiety from it though ?   did slow taper up  18 days on it .   he's not big dashing drugs either  

 

I can not  tolerate SSRI's  do not want SNRis to hard to get off 

 

since my last post  9/ 17  had some rough days  and some good days  but alot better since 4 /18 when got off the z drug it . 

 

 

 

 i think well start turing conner soon wd from z- durg the law off averages (surveys)   suggests 12 months to 19 months  i feel better but no guarantees 

 

any suggestions  i see my dr on 11 29 again.

 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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Just checking in if anybody will respond to my comments above?  

 

I took 1 mg of vilified this morning and felt anxious I’ve been trying to titrate up but it doesn’t seem to be working I don’t know if this is a good idea only I can decide but any comments are welcome     

 

I woke up this morning with a sweat from sleeping and this could be a sign with drawer 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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On 11/12/2018 at 10:10 AM, bluepm said:

i tried to get back on to  Prozac  for two weeks did not work out  to much anxiety at 5 mg and 10 mg i cut tablet apart i wanted to stabilize i have waves i think  its from z drug  I am off 8 months now do want to take any more  period .  I trying ablifiy    2 mg  split does  in half and fourths tried to take though out the day  for the past 17 days     

 

13 hours ago, bluepm said:

I took 1 mg of vilified this morning and felt anxious I’ve been trying to titrate up but it doesn’t seem to be working 

 

It looks like you've tried several new drugs - please update your signature with dates and doses of all these drugs.  Which Z-drug were you taking?  Also, please clarify what you mean by "vilified" - do you mean Abilify?

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg

2021   29 Aug 2.4mg   15 Nov 2.3mg

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 Thank you for responding 

 

I’ve been steady on the Remeron 7.5 mg that is not a new drug.

 

I tried to reinstate with Prozac it did not work I tried it 5 mg and it was just too strong cause me anxiety so I stopped taking it. I tried it for two weeks

 

  New medication  The other option I had was Abilify 2 mg from the doctor I tried 2 milligrams at first it was too strong cause me anxiety so I went to a quarter of a pill .5 mg twice a day really didn’t do too much as far as stabilizing me.I advise the doctor of this method he said you can do it but that’s not what they really recommend.

 

Kalana pin was the last Z drug I was on as noted in my write up I stopped in April 2018.

 

 My goal is to stop taking these medications the only reason I’m taking Remeron this so I can sleep at night and get past the withdraws from the Z drug it’s my understanding that it could take anywhere from 6 to 18 months for your GABA receptors to heal and at that point I would stop taking all other medications buy tapering them .

 

Enough information I plan on seeing my doctor again November 29, 

He is a psychiatrist and he is not big on prescribing drugs arbitrarily do you have any suggestions on how to talk to him about these medications because in his mind 10 mg of Prozac is a baby dose  also he thinks that I’m not in with drawl from the benzo’s because I’ve been often on for eight months 

 

I do have some Indarall I take as needed 10 mg for anxiety it does call me down some I have vistoral  like take as needed as wellAnd hundred milligrams in a nortonThese medications I do not take on a regular basis only as needed. 

 

I also started taking a probiotic I’ll add that into the mix I don’t know if it will affect any of these medications I’m trying to eat right and get the good gut healthWith the help of some probiotics

 

I just don’t know if there’s any other medication that can help calm my nerves besides the Z drug 

 

 After listening to a webcast yesterday that my brain is sensitive to these Polly drugs that I cannot take them in large doses they have to be microdoses is there anything that could help me a while while I am trying to manage my withdraws from the z drug and possibly the Prozac.    

 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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are their any k-pin survivors ( VETs)  i have been off for 7 months now CT basically   use was intermittent over period of year   say 5 months use only.

 

how did you make  it and cope ? how long did WD last ? 

 

thanks in advance.  

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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bluepm, I just re-read your entire topic.

 

As long as you've been a member here, even though we've repeatedly told you not to, you've been switching your drugs, going up and down in dosage, adding drugs, dropping drugs, taking drugs on different schedules.

 

It is possible you have some kind of withdrawal syndrome; taking a bit of mirtazapine seems to help with the sleep problems -- yet you continually change your mirtazapine dosage.

 

At several points, you have reported very, very mild symptoms  or no symptoms at all. Still, you continue to play with psychiatric drugs for no good reason.

 

Whatever you're up to, I'm doubtful we can help you here. You don't listen to what we say and it seems you have perhaps health anxiety or some other habit of mind where you constantly worry about minor symptoms, then run to the doctor for drugs to treat them. Read

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

Health anxiety, hypochondria, and obsession with symptoms

 

Strongly recommend 1) stop changing your mirtazapine dosage, stay on one dosage, take at the same time each day; 2) stop trying other drugs; 3) see a psychotherapist or other counselor for coaching in Cognitive Behavior Therapy to manage your health anxiety.

 

We do not offer psychotherapeutic services here.

 

PS I am wondering if "heavy breathing" means hyperventilation. If that's the case, you're causing your own problems. Make an effort to breathe normally.

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thank you  for the response  its was very honest and to the point. 

 

 

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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You're welcome. I hope you find your way and feel better soon.

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 I’m following up on your last comments you’re absolutely correct I’m trying to stabilize but I’m finding it very difficult it is true I tried some other drugs but not for very long and I understand that it creates havoc on your nervous system the longest antidepressant I was on was Prozac the longest it’s seem to work but when I tried to get a back on it last time 5 mg it was causing me anxiety revving me up as you suggested previously 1 mg would be the correct dose  reinstate again I did not listen I upped my dose mertizapine per the doctors orders  to 15 mg December 1 per doctor‘s instructions has done nothing for me I’m still the same uneasiness in the mornings  I have no choice I have to go to the doctor to get prescriptions filled I’m seeing a psychiatrist again he’s not pushing anything on me he makes suggestions  I want do is stabilized I think one of the underlying problems I have is I have a drawl symptoms from the benzo’s heavy breathing is air hunger I checked on benzo buddies and a lot of people have that symptom. Your site has a lot of good information I go to a group called recovery Intl twice a week it has help me tremendously as far as coping skill goes any additional information will be helpful if not then I’ll just follow your instructions above. Or I just grin and bear it until it passes stay on the mirtazapine reduce it back down to 7.5 mg I know you suggested to other people to use the lamictal May that be an alternative I suggested that to the doctor very low dose as you stated in your previous emails.

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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 I am feeling better this  been has long Journey  

 

I am 36 months off Benzos 

 

blue pm

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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I am off everything now feeling much better  

buspar  7/16 to 4/17  does  45 mg, 30 mg , 15mg then 60 mg  stopped did not like the side effects  tapered 

paxil    10 mg 10 /16  11 / 16 bad reaction  stopped  

xanax  .25 mg as needed   10 /16  30 days  only stopped 

ativan  1/17 1 mg 30 days supply  tapper off   the best i could  1/16/18  stopped 
prozac  4/16 to  1/17    20 mg start   then 6 months 40 mgs then down  10/17 to 20 mgs   off 2/17 bad reaction  stopped 

 klonopin  .5  three daily   as needed  took .5 for 30 days when getting   on Prozac 5/1/17 stopped   then started again  1/2/18 to 4/10 stopped by tapering over 30 days down to .125 a day. though time, but  better now stopped 

Mertizipine   11/16 to present started 15 mg  at 7.5 mg  4/17 to  7/18 ,  7/4/18   3.5 mg  skipping does  the plan was to go off it while on  Prozac  but  it never worked    back on 7.5 mg 

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18 hours ago, bluepm said:

I am off everything now feeling much better  

 

Would you agree to update your signature so we can understand your story ?

 

I'm really glad to read you're doing much better !

 

Take care ☀️

Edited by Erell

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Because you're feeling better, I added our cheerful "here comes the sun" symbol to the title of your Intro topic, to show you're recovering.

 

Please continue to let us know how you're doing. I hope you will add your story to our Recovery Success Stories eventually!

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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