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Hi Phil, 

I am not 4 years off ssri I am 41 months off. I have intrupted sleep almost always. In total I sleep 6 to 7 hours but I wake up 1 to 2 times a night each night. 

Thank you

My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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Altostrata

@Ibnabu,how are you doing?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Setback after 4 years of withdrawal

Hi every one,

I have setback now after 4 years of withdrawal and only took cipralex for 8 months in total. The setback is caused by a surgery to remove an infected perianal abscess under general anaesthesia. They gave me midazolam+ benzo+tramadol 100mg. All these years i took no brain active substances. I improved a lot but still not 100% well. Is it possible to have setback that far in withdrawal? Does healing takes soooo long? 

The setback did not bring all my symptoms back but only some like: low mood, inner tension.

Hope everyone is doing fine

Ibnabu

 

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My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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2 hours ago, Ibnabu said:

They gave me midazolam+ benzo+tramadol 100mg.

 

How long were you on these drugs, Ibnabu?

 

 

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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I was on these medications only during the operation time (45 min) that was 10 days ago. Since then i took nothing.

My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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Since you weren't on the drugs long enough to develop a dependency, hopefully you'll recover from this quickly. And from your surgery, too. 

 

 

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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I was on these medications only during the operation time (45 min) that was 10 days ago. Since then i took nothing.

My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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Thank you Shep

My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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Hi every one

I am sorry to say that there is no complete healing from antidepressants but damage. It's been 4 years for me since my last  cipralex dose and still suffering. I do not drink, do not smoke, do not drink coffee, do not take any brain active substances since 4 years and still not healed. My throat is swollen and the ENT said it is due allergy and therefore too much histamine in the body. He prescribed fexofendine, a second generation antihistamine. I have to take it or the swilling will get bigger and i will have difficulty breathing. I personally do not believe in healing from ssri. It is permanent cns sensitization. So do not believe recovery stories. When people say that they have healed and got much better they do not mean complete healing. It seems the cns will be sensitized permanently.    

My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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Altostrata

Is the fexofendine effective for your allergies?

 

Unlikely PAWS is related to your allergies. We don't counsel about allergies here, sorry.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Please take me seriuos

 

Hello every one,

Hope all of you are doing well. I need some help. Is it possible that a symptom appear four years in withdrawal? Since few weeks i have sensitive skin and the diagnosis by a dermatologist was dermatitis. I never ever had this in my life prior to cipralex withdrawal. I also took bisoprolol for 3 months this year. Stopped the beta blocker in 20th of may this year. I do not know if this has to do with my skin sensitivity???

Please if any has any information let me know.

Thank a lot.

Ibnabu

 

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My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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ChessieCat

Whereabouts on your body is your dermatitis?

 

Sometimes manufacturers change the ingredients in their products.  It might be a good idea to start using low irritant products and stop using any creams that aren't necessary and keep a diary.  If after doing that you are still getting the dermatitis you could try checking for food allergy/ies.  It's not that a food allergy causes the dermatitis but it may make it worse.

 

And yes, it could possibly be something which has been caused after coming off an AD.  However, it's like many other things that cannot be tested you may never know the cause.  It might have happened anyway even if you had never taken a drug.  But there is so much that is not known about psychiatric drugs.  Since my own experience of not being able to type 2 weeks after I reduced my Pristiq from 100mg to 50mg and then being able to type 4 hours later when I updosed and also being here at SA for 5 years and reading other members' experiences of being on and off these drugs, not much would surprise me now.

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ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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I have it in my neck.

My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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Altostrata

It sounds like you have developed some allergies. This may not be related to withdrawal syndrome.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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Need some clarification

 

Hi everyone,

Alto said once "the good news is that one recovers over time, the bad news is that withdrawal syndrome leaves you sensitive to medications like anaesthesia" . 

My question here is do living with sensitive nervous system means recovery? Is't this mean damage has occurred?  Please can any one answer this. Thanks alot

 

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My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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Yes, you can be recovered and still sensitized.  Unless you do something to upset your nervous system again, the sensitization tends to fade.

NEW!!!              INTERVIEW with Altostrata, SA's founder               NEW!!! 

 

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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Are you sure the sensitization will fade? Do you have evidences to prove this? Thank you any way Chessiecat.  

My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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What I posted was Alto's response.  Alto has been there herself and recovered, but it took a long time.  She has also been dealing with a lot of members over a lot of years.  And there are Success Stories of people recovering.

 

I actually think that you may have a negative attitude and that even if someone was to provide you with indisputable proof that you would find some way to discredit it.

 

I suggest that you listen to Altostrata's recent interview.  The link is in my signature.

NEW!!!              INTERVIEW with Altostrata, SA's founder               NEW!!! 

 

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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Hi @ibnabu! I'm glad you reach 4 years off drugs! I read many stories (like Alto or Aeroman) that explain how antibiotics or stessful events can generate setbacks also after years... Did you heal from your beginning issues? I hope so and I think this could be a very important goal!

July 2015: the 20mg citalopram for great stress begins

After two years I start tapering (slow but without medical advice) and I guess wrongly. First up to 10 mg, then 5 mg and 2 mg (liquid solution) and skips

January 2020 (I don't remember exactly the day): off citalopram (last dose 2mg).

June 2020: adrenal crash. The beginning of Hell on Earth

 

Current supplement: saffron pill (30 mg) + 1 mg melatonin + vit. E, EPA + DHA, magnesium bisglycinate, theanine, folic acid, iron and vit. D3.

Try meditating / mindfulness, running every day, CBT, weekly acupuncture (anxiety protocol) and massage.

 

"E quindi uscimmo a riveder le stelle" ("And so we went out to see the stars again")

(Dante Alighieri, Divine Comedy , Inferno, XXXIV, 139)

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Hi,

Yes Leila i recovered from many issues but still i am sensitive to stress and my system in general still sensitive to pharmaceutical medications. 

Where can i find Alto's recovery success story? 

My drug history:

Cipralex 10mg for two months from February 2015 to April 2015. Tapered for one month 

Cipralex 20mg for six months from February 2016 to August 2016. Tapered for 5 weeks.

From October 2016 till fourth of April 2018 I am drug free.

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Ibnabu, I think that healing from many issues is a very important goal. You had to be proud of your resilience! I'm sure, little by little, also your brain will be less sensitive!

July 2015: the 20mg citalopram for great stress begins

After two years I start tapering (slow but without medical advice) and I guess wrongly. First up to 10 mg, then 5 mg and 2 mg (liquid solution) and skips

January 2020 (I don't remember exactly the day): off citalopram (last dose 2mg).

June 2020: adrenal crash. The beginning of Hell on Earth

 

Current supplement: saffron pill (30 mg) + 1 mg melatonin + vit. E, EPA + DHA, magnesium bisglycinate, theanine, folic acid, iron and vit. D3.

Try meditating / mindfulness, running every day, CBT, weekly acupuncture (anxiety protocol) and massage.

 

"E quindi uscimmo a riveder le stelle" ("And so we went out to see the stars again")

(Dante Alighieri, Divine Comedy , Inferno, XXXIV, 139)

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16 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

I suggest that you listen to Altostrata's recent interview.  The link is in my signature.

 

INTERVIEW with Altostrata, SA's founder    

NEW!!!              INTERVIEW with Altostrata, SA's founder               NEW!!! 

 

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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Hi Ibnabu,  I have read your posts and am so sorry that you are still struggling with ongoing withdrawal issues.  Don't give up hope for improvement--or at least the willingness to endure.  That you are willing to share on this site gives me a gift as I endure, trying to find my way, especially dealing with the despair and broken sleep.

 

My gratitude to you, and best wishes,

Arbor

 

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Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 

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