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28 minutes ago, bubbles said:

(and with the bubbles situation it's probably more realistic)

 

Seems like you pick an applicable member name! 

 

29 minutes ago, bubbles said:

I'll try to source some better ones.

 

It might be worth getting one of the dial the amount measuring ones which have been mentioned in the How to Make Liquid topic:

 

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So far so good. My mood is fine. I'm exhausted but we've just wound up a huge important project at work and I've been sleeping poorly (my mind keeps racing with work things). Hopefully now that's fini

I'm doing well on 1mg (capsules). Had a mishap (long story, I won't go into it) and several doses were missed over a week or so which may have been on two consecutive days, not sure, but I did not exp

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On 3/27/2021 at 11:09 AM, ChessieCat said:

It might be worth getting one of the dial the amount measuring ones which have been mentioned in the How to Make Liquid topic:

 

Thanks Chessie. I'll look to see if I can find one that goes from 10ul to 1000ul. I have only found smaller or larger, but it might be okay that way too.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised my dosing was off and as probably on more like 1.8mg and possible mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 7 Mar 1.4mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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Still going okay. Still a bit tired from work but overall okay.  My thyroid blood test came back as pretty optimal so that's good news. I'm good to drop again this weekend, which is Easter.

 

I think I'll drop to 1.2 because that's manageable with the syringes I have. I will have to look for a better option though.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised my dosing was off and as probably on more like 1.8mg and possible mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 7 Mar 1.4mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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Still all good. I made up my current batch yesterday so I'm good to go on Sunday. I used cooled, boiled water to dilute the suspension vehicle. I make up the batch a few days ahead to allow any remnant tablet bits to have a chance to dissolve/disintegrate, then I use it for 4 weeks and discard whatever is left. Rinse, repeat.

 

Am going to go to 1.2ml since I can manage that with the larger syringe. Because despite the dosing rollercoaster in the last few months I didn't notice any of it, so I think it will all be good.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised my dosing was off and as probably on more like 1.8mg and possible mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 7 Mar 1.4mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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bubbles

1.2 ml from 4 April, all good so far.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised my dosing was off and as probably on more like 1.8mg and possible mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 7 Mar 1.4mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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Yes! A working thyroid!  Always a good thing.  Glad to see you are doing well.

 

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2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Cruizer
On 2/19/2021 at 8:51 AM, bubbles said:

Update - it's now been 9 days on new bottle. So far so good. I'll hold it up to 4 weeks. With the 25ml syringe I'm happier that I'll get accurate dosing.

 

I had to switch to a 3ml syringe after a couple of days of this new bottle because of the falling apart issue with the syringes. I have managed to source a couple of 1ml syringes of a different brand which I will switch to at another time. For now the 3ml syringe is fine.

 

Work has settled down again. It was a very stressful time for a couple of weeks, but it's back to normal now (and we've all collectively heaved a sigh of relief).

Hi bubbles, I hope your travelling well?

Can I ask where you sourced your syringes from as I too am in Australia? I am going to start making my own solution for sertraline as I feel the compounded tablets are not accurate enough anymore as I have gotten lower in dose. I'm finding every new batch I get seems to set me off into a wave. 

I am currently at 4.5mg so my original thought was to mix up a 50mg tablet in 50ml of water and take 4.5ml of it via syringe straight into my mouth. I should get around 11 days out of one batch. Is that what you basically do? 

Started Sertraline (Zoloft) September 2009. 50mg then to 100mg within a week. Floated between 150mg and 100mg for the next 6 years. 

February 2016 began tapering from 150mg

2017; 55mg-22mg; 2018; 22mg-19mg. Jan 2018 surgery on my knee and collarbone which seemed to cause a crash 3 weeks later. 12/02/18. Held for 6 months at 19mg. 12/08/18 19mg-18mg; 10/09/18 18mg-17mg; Held for another 7 months

17/04/19 began tapering at 0.5mg per 2 weeks and reached 4.5mg on 19/03/20; CRASHED after a heavy alcohol session in late Feb. Attempted to restart taper August 2020 by dropping to 4.25mg. Updosed back to 4.5mg after 3 days. 2nd attempt to restart 4 weeks later in September 2020 dropping to 4.25mg again this time updosing back to 4.5mg 4 days later. 

Last attempt to taper January 2021 only dropping to 4.4mg. Lasted 3 days before updosing back to 4.5mg which is where I have held. 

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Rhiannon

Hi Bubbles--Just skimming around the forum tonight during slow periods at work and caught up with your thread. It's lovely to hear how well you're doing. :-)

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                   1

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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bubbles
On 5/4/2021 at 9:03 AM, Cruizer said:

Hi bubbles, I hope your travelling well?

Can I ask where you sourced your syringes from as I too am in Australia? I am going to start making my own solution for sertraline as I feel the compounded tablets are not accurate enough anymore as I have gotten lower in dose. I'm finding every new batch I get seems to set me off into a wave. 

I am currently at 4.5mg so my original thought was to mix up a 50mg tablet in 50ml of water and take 4.5ml of it via syringe straight into my mouth. I should get around 11 days out of one batch. Is that what you basically do? 

 

@Cruizer I'm sorry, I didn't answer. :(

 

I'll start by suggesting this thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/2693-how-to-make-a-liquid-from-tablets-or-capsules/ I rather think it suggests discarding a water suspension after a few days. I don't know the reason for discarding.

 

For me, I haven't been using water on its own - I have been using Oraplus https://www.amazon.com.au/Ora-Plus-Oral-Suspending-Vehicle-Paddock/dp/B000GGHSQM from Amazon. I bought two bottles and I think they were cheaper than this, but it was now some time ago. Oraplus can be diluted up to 50% with (cooled boiled) water, so I sometimes do that. I've not noticed any potency change from start to end of the batch, but I discard at 4 weeks.

 

I will say that I am aware that I had some measuring mishaps early in my suspension-making so I think my dose bounced up and down a bit. I don't think I noticed it, so my not noticing a potency change from start to end of the batch may not mean anything.

 

Syringes - the best ones have been from a pharmacy, but I've needed to look around to find 1ml syringes. I actually had some left over from pet medicine (unused - still in the package) which got me started, but some pharmacies have the tiny ones. I bought some off Ebay and while they were cheaper they didn't last very long, so at the moment I'm just buying at a pharmacy.

 

 

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised my dosing was off and as probably on more like 1.8mg and possible mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 7 Mar 1.4mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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bubbles
On 5/4/2021 at 12:05 PM, Rhiannon said:

Hi Bubbles--Just skimming around the forum tonight during slow periods at work and caught up with your thread. It's lovely to hear how well you're doing. 🙂

 

Hi @Rhiannon

 

Yes doing well. About a year to go. Am sure my doctor thinks I'm taking too long at such a low dose but was happy to prescribe the (last, hopefully) box I'll need so that's all fine.

 

Quite possible I could have done this faster, and I will be very glad when it is over, but I'm also content at the path I've taken. I think the longer I've taken the greater the likelihood of success and I've been stable for the vast majority of the time.

 

How have you been?

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised my dosing was off and as probably on more like 1.8mg and possible mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 7 Mar 1.4mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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bubbles

I went down to 1.1mg on around 2 May, so I'm coming up to 4 weeks on that. I'll go down to 1mg on Sunday.

 

I've gone for capsules for this this dose. (Capsules will just be easier for now.) I'll probably hold it for six or seven weeks and then go back to making a suspension for the final run down. Once I'll be below 1mg, I'll find a pipette thingy to avoid having to keep using syringes.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised my dosing was off and as probably on more like 1.8mg and possible mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 7 Mar 1.4mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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I'm doing well on 1mg (capsules). Had a mishap (long story, I won't go into it) and several doses were missed over a week or so which may have been on two consecutive days, not sure, but I did not experience any withdrawal. This was about three or so weeks ago. Mood is good, generally all is well. Overall, I'm much better on 1mg than I was on a full dose.

 

Interestingly, in this part of my taper I have found it easier, not harder. If doses are missed, I am noticing no issues. (Not something I plan to do, but life happens.) It should be noted that I'm on 1% of my highest dose of 100mg, have been gently and gradually dropping for seven years and have been stable for virtually that whole time.

 

This week I will try to source a good pipette for dosing for returning to a suspension. I'll mix up a batch of the suspension in the next few days so that I can drop the dose on the weekend. (It takes a few days for the ground up tablet to fully dissolve/disperse in the suspension so I like to make it a few days ahead.)

 

Summary: at 1mg, down 99mg (at 1%, down 99%).

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised my dosing was off and as probably on more like 1.8mg and possible mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 7 Mar 1.4mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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What a lovely update to read!  Go, Bubbles!

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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