Sadboy: Zoloft withdrawal, 2 months in

[India]

On 2/1/2020 at 10:23 PM, WizeroAim said:

I knew sadboy personally, and whit sadness in my heart I have to announce that sadboy took his own life due to pssd.

I will miss you man.

So terrible to hear this and to know he suffered so much. 

[sunnysideup69]

How utterly awful. My god, it's a scandal these drugs are allowed.......Rest in Peace, Sadboy.

[pinciukas]

2 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

How utterly awful. My god, it's a scandal these drugs are allowed.......Rest in Peace, Sadboy.

 

 

Leading cause of death in the United States, suicide has become a significant public health issue both here and worldwide. Mental illness is one of many risk factors in cases of suicide, the most common being depression. Unfortunately, only half of those living with depression and other mental illnesses actually receive treatment. Sad but not everyone can cope with exercises yoga or music. I tried to commit suicide, before drugs. I was in so bad condition that I am happy I was given something. We can’t blame drugs, air, food or any other thinkings. That’s life and life is not only flowers. 

[sunnysideup69]

9 minutes ago, pinciukas said:

 

 

Leading cause of death in the United States, suicide has become a significant public health issue both here and worldwide. Mental illness is one of many risk factors in cases of suicide, the most common being depression. Unfortunately, only half of those living with depression and other mental illnesses actually receive treatment. Sad but not everyone can cope with exercises yoga or music. I tried to commit suicide, before drugs. I was in so bad condition that I am happy I was given something. We can’t blame drugs, air, food or any other thinkings. That’s life and life is not only flowers. 

Hi, firstly, I'm so sorry you were in such a bad place. I've felt suicidal myself, although never carried it through. However, I still wish I had been aware of other alternatives/ had better social connections before trying psychiatric drugs.I think psychiatric drugs are woefully inadequate a lot of the time; they create problems when used in the long term for  a LOT of people, as this website and many other drugs forums are testament to. I'd never recommend purely exercises, yoga or music; people need connection and meaning rather than a list of strategies....and you also can't find connection/meaning in a pill. I'm glad you feel psychiatric drugs helped you, for me, I don't think they have. 

[pinciukas]

21 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Hi, firstly, I'm so sorry you were in such a bad place. I've felt suicidal myself, although never carried it through. However, I still wish I had been aware of other alternatives/ had better social connections before trying psychiatric drugs.I think psychiatric drugs are woefully inadequate a lot of the time; they create problems when used in the long term for  a LOT of people, as this website and many other drugs forums are testament to. I'd never recommend purely exercises, yoga or music; people need connection and meaning rather than a list of strategies....and you also can't find connection/meaning in a pill. I'm glad you feel psychiatric drugs helped you, for me, I don't think they have. 

Yes I know this is very long discussion with a lot of pin point. I am glad you can cope with other things. This is proof that we all are different you can cope with what I can’t but I am learning and trying  I have gambling addiction and always blamed gambling company’s and other people but not myself later I learned that problem is not in them but I am the problem. So that’s why I don’t like to blame anyone for anything  I wish you good luck in this long recovery journey!

[India]

I still feel very haunted by sadboy’s death . That he suffered a nd lost all hope. That he was alone. That he did not see the recovery he deserved .

@WizeroAim how are you? Must have been very painful for you?

[India]

9 hours ago, pinciukas said:

 

 

Leading cause of death in the United States, suicide has become a significant public health issue both here and worldwide. Mental illness is one of many risk factors in cases of suicide, the most common being depression. Unfortunately, only half of those living with depression and other mental illnesses actually receive treatment. Sad but not everyone can cope with exercises yoga or music. I tried to commit suicide, before drugs. I was in so bad condition that I am happy I was given something. We can’t blame drugs, air, food or any other thinkings. That’s life and life is not only flowers. 

@pinciukasDrugs/meds may have helped you but that does not preclude the fact that drugs harm many. Their effects are not blanket. For every person they have helped, i’m willing  to bet there  is person who has been harmed or has yet to be harmed by WD or long term impacts of taking these meds.  In fact, from where i’m standing , they are quite obviously one of the  major causation factors in sadboy’s death . Pssd caused by SSRIs. he clearly suffered a great many damaging effects as reported by himself but I appreciate everyone has their view. 

[sunnysideup69]

16 hours ago, pinciukas said:

Yes I know this is very long discussion with a lot of pin point. I am glad you can cope with other things. This is proof that we all are different you can cope with what I can’t but I am learning and trying  I have gambling addiction and always blamed gambling company’s and other people but not myself later I learned that problem is not in them but I am the problem. So that’s why I don’t like to blame anyone for anything  I wish you good luck in this long recovery journey!

 

I wish you all the  best too, pinciukas, I guess we're all just struggling along in the best way that we can. I understand not blaming. I've had to take responsibility for myself, also  

[Leo1983]

Very sad! im so sorry to hear this. 

 

I do think its one of the grey areas of this site. Its a great site and its very educating and people put alot of time in. However, been told to wait 3, 4, 5 years and stay away from Drs and meds it almost isolates people into waiting for a miracle. Its along time to suck up and lets face it WD is no virus or a headache, its life changing. 

[India]

4 hours ago, Leo1983 said:

Very sad! im so sorry to hear this. 

 

I do think its one of the grey areas of this site. Its a great site and its very educating and people put alot of time in. However, been told to wait 3, 4, 5 years and stay away from Drs and meds it almost isolates people into waiting for a miracle. Its along time to suck up and lets face it WD is no virus or a headache, its life changing. 

I totally concur.

 

While we can attempt to empathise we can never truly know the depths of another’s suffering. 

 

I don’t see how taking responsibility for a gambling addiction is in anyway related to sadboy’s PSSD ; a sometimes intractable physical condition induced by SSRI’s. It’s clear sadboy was very intelligent and took it upon himself to educate himself as best he could on the condition. 

[pinciukas]

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[mstimc]

@Leo1983 and @India I don't think this site nor its members advocate not seeing doctors or shunning meds in all situations.  I consider myself "recovered' in the sense I can manage my symptoms through CBT and other behavioral tools, but I still have a script for generic Klonopin when the physical symptoms are too much (maybe two to three times a month)--I still have trouble in crowded situations.  Without a therapist with knowledge of withdrawal, I would have have a lot more difficulty. We all suffered in unique ways but we all share the struggle.  Whatever the cause, anxiety and/or depression are chronic conditions like diabetes; they can be managed but may not be "cured".  If you're diabetic, you may need meds to help control your blood sugar, but you also need to eat right.  I think its about finding the right balance and what works for you; that may include occasional use of meds but without some behavioral changes meds alone won't help.  I know how lonely it feels to suffer every day, but you aren't alone!

[India]

4 hours ago, mstimc said:

@Leo1983 and @India I don't think this site nor its members advocate not seeing doctors or shunning meds in all situations.  I consider myself "recovered' in the sense I can manage my symptoms through CBT and other behavioral tools, but I still have a script for generic Klonopin when the physical symptoms are too much (maybe two to three times a month)--I still have trouble in crowded situations.  Without a therapist with knowledge of withdrawal, I would have have a lot more difficulty. We all suffered in unique ways but we all share the struggle.  Whatever the cause, anxiety and/or depression are chronic conditions like diabetes; they can be managed but may not be "cured".  If you're diabetic, you may need meds to help control your blood sugar, but you also need to eat right.  I think its about finding the right balance and what works for you; that may include occasional use of meds but without some behavioral changes meds alone won't help.  I know how lonely it feels to suffer every day, but you aren't alone!

I agree. I concur on the fact it can be isolating and lonely experience.

[brassmonkey]

Okay Folks..Please show a little respect for one of our sadly departed members. A lose of this nature has a profound affect on our entire community and I don't want to see it trivialized in this manner. 

 

I will have to ask you to take this discussion to one of your own personal threads.  This thread is still Sadboy's and it is for discussions about him and ATM condolences, memories and expressions of emotion.  It is not the place to be debating personal beliefs about the right or wrong of using ADs.

 

Consider this a verbal warning.