RusTW: Seroquel CT then reinstated

[RusTW]

2 minutes ago, jonnypeters1234567 said:

If you get psychosis it will be fleeting russ, no symptoms stick around for more than a few mins Id say, its hard to realise that in the moment

Thanks JP do u get breaks from symptoms or more relief

[jonnypeters1234567]

Cycle through symptons all day. Evenings i get relief. Akathisia is really hotting up and i have started rocking to calm myself down. Really bad situation

[RusTW]

Its the same forme symptoms in the day evening is better

[RusTW]

Sh** man you have been thru a lot .sorry man.I read some of aeroman stuff.he went thru this for. Years

[RusTW]

 I'm wondering if this is just a wave or is my situation getting worse

[jonnypeters1234567]

Remember this - no two days are the same. 

 

And 80% of withdrawal is tolerable

 

Bad feelings dont stick around long. I keep getting intense chemical anxiety, but it leaves within 2 mins. Those 2 mins are horrific, but it goes

[RusTW]

I hope so JP this sucks man.mine has gotta worse over 3-4 days.? How bad is going to get.if it get too unbearable what next

[Altostrata]

17 hours ago, RusTW said:

Ok will keep on taking it the same time.I was only thinking if I take it in the morning by night I won't be amped up.haven't yet .I still take it at 2 ish pm. Thanks Alto

 

RusTW, I need to know the time of day you take each drug, and their dosages, plus your symptom pattern. I have requested this several times. I can't answer your questions until you tell me this.

[RusTW]

Hi Alto - 1035pm. 50 mg of seroquel / 200pm 50 mg of zoloft.                                                     Symptoms5-6 am cortisol spike.    6 am-9 am headache-anxiety.         9 am to12pm fog. Severe Anxiety .either nausea or headaches or both .nausea has gotten bettet. SI   OCD ringing ears                                         12pm -3pm waiting to go to work anxiety is worst .headache and fog .2 pm take zoloft.                                3 pm-6pm    DP. anxiety fog nausea   intrusive ocd  fatigue dizzy. Sweating.                          6-9pm mild anxiety lately anxiety moderate. fog    DP.                                        9-12       window -milder anxiety headache fog.                                      12 am -5 am sometimes sleep .lately insomnia weird dreams anxiety toss and turn sensitive to sound .                            I do my walking from about 11 a.m. to about 1 p.m. or the gym one or the other                       thanks Alto let me know what you think

[RusTW]

1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

 

RusTW, I need to know the time of day you take each drug, and their dosages, plus your symptom pattern. I have requested this several times. I can't answer your questions until you tell me this.

 hi Alto I posted it on my thread if you want to take a look at it and let me know

[Altostrata]

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1035pm. 50 mg of seroquel / 200pm 50 mg of zoloft

Symptoms5-6 am cortisol spike.   

6 am-9 am headache-anxiety.        

9 am to12pm fog. Severe Anxiety .either nausea or headaches or both .nausea has gotten bettet. SI   OCD ringing ears                                        

12pm -3pm waiting to go to work anxiety is worst .headache and fog .2 pm take zoloft.                               

3 pm-6pm    DP. anxiety fog nausea   intrusive ocd  fatigue dizzy. Sweating.                         

6-9pm mild anxiety lately anxiety moderate. fog    DP.                                       

9-12       window -milder anxiety headache fog.                                     

12 am -5 am sometimes sleep .lately insomnia weird dreams anxiety toss and turn sensitive to sound .                           

 

I do my walking from about 11 a.m. to about 1 p.m. or the gym one or the other

 

 

Please post it in a form that will be easier for me to read. Use a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right. Interleave when you take your drugs with the symptoms, like a diary.

 

What does "200pm 50 mg of zoloft" mean? When do you take zopiclone? What is your sleep pattern?

 

[RusTW]

2 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

 

Please post it in a form that will be easier for me to read. Use a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right. Interleave when you take your drugs with the symptoms, like a diary.

 

What does "200pm 50 mg of zoloft" mean? When do you take zopiclone? What is your sleep pattern?

 

Hi Alto  that means 2 p.m. I don't take zipiclome. My sleep pattern is usually from about 11:30 ish to about 5 a.m. 6 a.m. in the morning broken up sleep the last two days a hundred percent insomnia no sleep at all. I'll send a new format to you from my laptop this was from my phone sorry about that

[RusTW]

5-6Am-symptoms wake up call cortisol spike-anxiety.                                                                                                                                                      6-10Am-symptoms severe anxiety building -headache or nausea or both-fog-ocd intrusive thinking-ringing ears loud.SI                                    10-Am-2PM-symptoms severe anxiety-fog-dizzy-bad headache-SI-ringing ears-ocd intrusive-                                                                                 2Pm-Take 50 mg -zoloft                                                                                                                                                                                                          2PM-6Pm-symptoms-severe anxiety-sometimes nausea-headache-DP-Intrusive ocd-fog-fatige dizzy-sweaty bad                                              6Pm-10Pm-symptoms-moderate anxiety-headache-sweaty-fog                                                                                                                                    8pm window-symptoms lessen in severity                                                                                                                                                                          1030pm Take seroquel 50 mg                                                                                                                                                                                                11pm -bed-symptoms-mild anxiety-mild fog-feel better                                                                                                                                                    11pm-5am-broken sleep weird dreams-sensitive to noise and smell-last 2 nights no sleep at all

[RusTW]

2 hours ago, RusTW said:

Hi Alto  that means 2 p.m. I don't take zipiclome. My sleep pattern is usually from about 11:30 ish to about 5 a.m. 6 a.m. in the morning broken up sleep the last two days a hundred percent insomnia no sleep at all. I'll send a new format to you from my laptop this was from my phone sorry about that

Alto its done can you check it out on my thread-thanks rus

[RusTW]

2 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

Please post it in a form that will be easier for me to read. Use a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right. Interleave when you take your drugs with the symptoms, like a diary.

 

What does "200pm 50 mg of zoloft" mean? When do you take zopiclone? What is your sleep pattern?

 

its done Alto can you go over it let me know what you think

[RusTW]

5 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

RusTW, I need to know the time of day you take each drug, and their dosages, plus your symptom pattern. I have requested this several times. I can't answer your questions until you tell me this.

Alto let me know if I did the format ok on my thred

[RusTW]

One thing confirmed today by another recovered member-Cipro can damage you just as bad as AD or Anti psychotics-this member went thru a year of w/d from cipro after his AD withdrawals-Stay away from CIPRO or yull get floxed as they call a bad reaction.pure garbage as a medicine.people who prescribe it should try it themselves.let them them feel the agony. 

[RusTW]

Here is a update.. I slept okay about 5 or 6 hours got up this morning with a headache mild anxiety mild nausea. My body still feels tired though I've been doing a lot no racing thoughts today mild fog. It's my day off going to try to take it easy eat good take my vitamins get outside sit in the sun meditate and hopefully I'll keep progressing out of this again into a window.

[Rabe]

Hi Rus.  Glad to hear you are better today.  Do you find it more difficult on days that you work...have something you have to do and be ok for?

[RusTW]

7 minutes ago, Rabe said:

Hi Rus.  Glad to hear you are better today.  Do you find it more difficult on days that you work...have something you have to do and be ok for?

Rabe very good ?all of last year I was caught in the medical loop and passed around to all different kind of doctors and Specialists to try to diagnose my symptoms .so it really affected my work and I had to hide it. so it also became like a post-traumatic stress disorder keeping that away from work and having doctors appointments 4 to 5 days a week and not knowing what was wrong. I know people at work were probably curious about what's going on with me last year I lost 30 pounds I went from 185 to about 155 in a short amount of time. Then when I was put on Zyprexa I went from the 155ish two around 212-214 pounds in a short amount of time. I would go to work after procedures where I was put under and have to work that same day so I was able to manage quite a bit of work .as I was going through this. it was very hard. So the withdrawals were the icing on the cake. Looking back I was in really bad shape mentally and physically and I know it was from the psych meds affecting me and the Cipro reaction. My employer is military-based so there's pretty strict guidelines as far as not accepting sickness or you know toughen through stuff. So it is a challenge to go to work everyday like this because I have to continue to hide what's going on with me. The positive is it forces me to function. I do get nervous on the days I'm bad before I go to work because I don't know what kind of symptoms I'm going to have while I'm at work and if I can hide them. I always feel better at work though and having somewhere to go and something to do I have to be on point at work so it forces my brain to think logically. I was just looking at my right arm and I have a permanent scar now from all the blood draws last year it's amazing what I've been through in the last year-and-a-half.

[Altostrata]

20 hours ago, RusTW said:

5-6Am-symptoms wake up call cortisol spike-anxiety.                                                                                                                                                      6-10Am-symptoms severe anxiety building -headache or nausea or both-fog-ocd intrusive thinking-ringing ears loud.SI                                    10-Am-2PM-symptoms severe anxiety-fog-dizzy-bad headache-SI-ringing ears-ocd intrusive-                                                                                 2Pm-Take 50 mg -zoloft                                                                                                                                                                                                          2PM-6Pm-symptoms-severe anxiety-sometimes nausea-headache-DP-Intrusive ocd-fog-fatige dizzy-sweaty bad                                              6Pm-10Pm-symptoms-moderate anxiety-headache-sweaty-fog                                                                                                                                    8pm window-symptoms lessen in severity                                                                                                                                                                          1030pm Take seroquel 50 mg                                                                                                                                                                                                11pm -bed-symptoms-mild anxiety-mild fog-feel better                                                                                                                                                    11pm-5am-broken sleep weird dreams-sensitive to noise and smell-last 2 nights no sleep at all

 

Please post your symptom notes in a format I can read easily. Use the Return key at the end of line instead of your spacebar. Thank you.

 

These are your symptom notes from yesterday (from above), correct?

 

5-6Am-symptoms wake up call cortisol spike-anxiety.

6-10Am-symptoms severe anxiety building -headache or nausea or both-fog-ocd intrusive thinking-ringing ears loud.SI 

10-Am-2PM-symptoms severe anxiety-fog-dizzy-bad headache-SI-ringing ears-ocd intrusive- 

2Pm-Take 50 mg -zoloft 

2PM-6Pm-symptoms-severe anxiety-sometimes nausea-headache-DP-Intrusive ocd-fog-fatige dizzy-sweaty bad 

6Pm-10Pm-symptoms-moderate anxiety-headache-sweaty-fog 

8pm window-symptoms lessen in severity

1030pm Take seroquel 50 mg

11pm -bed-symptoms-mild anxiety-mild fog-feel better 

11pm-5am-broken sleep weird dreams-sensitive to noise and smell-last 2 nights no sleep at all

 

Did the Zoloft ever reduce your symptoms? Why did you choose to take Zoloft? Did you feel better or worse after you cut the Zoloft from 100mg to 50mg? Did you reduce Seroquel at the same time?

 

How long have you had nausea after taking Zoloft? See https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/seroquel-with-zoloft-1979-1274-2057-1348.html

 

Please keep doing this:

 

On 8/8/2018 at 3:14 PM, RusTW said:

Okay now I'm trying this new experiment it's a few days old so far. I'm trying to trick my brain and my CNS by conducting myself as though everything was normal and is functioning normal. Even though it's far from that. I've been noticing that it's working. I've been making the extra effort to talk to people to smile at everyone to walk like I'm happy talk like I'm happy. I'm doing spontaneous things like rocking out or singing. the conversations I have with myself are not about withdrawal thinking about symptoms. I'm not sure this is going to work but I'm sure as hell going to give it a shot.

 

[RusTW]

26 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

 

Please post your symptom notes in a format I can read easily. Use the Return key at the end of line instead of your spacebar. Thank you.

 

These are your symptom notes from yesterday (from above), correct?

 

5-6Am-symptoms wake up call cortisol spike-anxiety.

6-10Am-symptoms severe anxiety building -headache or nausea or both-fog-ocd intrusive thinking-ringing ears loud.SI 

10-Am-2PM-symptoms severe anxiety-fog-dizzy-bad headache-SI-ringing ears-ocd intrusive- 

2Pm-Take 50 mg -zoloft 

2PM-6Pm-symptoms-severe anxiety-sometimes nausea-headache-DP-Intrusive ocd-fog-fatige dizzy-sweaty bad 

6Pm-10Pm-symptoms-moderate anxiety-headache-sweaty-fog 

8pm window-symptoms lessen in severity

1030pm Take seroquel 50 mg

11pm -bed-symptoms-mild anxiety-mild fog-feel better 

11pm-5am-broken sleep weird dreams-sensitive to noise and smell-last 2 nights no sleep at all

 

Did the Zoloft ever reduce your symptoms? Why did you choose to take Zoloft? Did you feel better or worse after you cut the Zoloft from 100mg to 50mg? Did you reduce Seroquel at the same time?

 

How long have you had nausea after taking Zoloft? See https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/seroquel-with-zoloft-1979-1274-2057-1348.html

 

Please keep doing this:

 

 

Good day to ya Alto Yes that was my symptoms yesterday most days go that way during waves.

 

I was switched from Prozac 40mg two Zoloft 125mg because my doctor thought that I had too much OCD thinking and anxiety so she thought Zoloft would be better she did it without tapering the Prozac. When I was on 125 mg  of Zoloft I actually felt more OCD and more anxiety it was predominantly health anxiety and depression followed.

 

The itching and nausea came after 3 weeks of cold turkey of the Seroquel 300 mg. During that 3 weeks I tapered also the Zoloft from 125mg down to about a hundred. So after that 3 weeks I reinstated 100 mg of Seroquel and I was on about a hundred mg of Zoloft since then which is been about 3 months I've taper down to 50 mg of each medication.

 

The nausea has calmed down quite a bit I don't feel it it's barely there but now I'm getting more symptoms in the head bad headache brain fog blurred vision intrusive thoughts sometimes bad anxiety and sometimes insomnia I don't sleep well.

 

I'm going to hold it that dose the 50 mg of each for a while now until I stabilize at least another month or more. I've had in the beginning 11 day window and then about a week and a half ago I had a 5-day window with really great clarity I felt symptom-free for about 5 days and I do get Windows in the evening from about 8 p.m. until about 12 a.m.

 

thanks for suggesting that I continue to try to trick my CNS and my brain I thought I was nuts for doing that but I felt like it was working. Sorry for the novel I just wanted to fit everything in there so you can assess the situation. I did get the supplements that you suggested

Edited August 21, 2018 by Altostrata
added paragraph spacing

[Altostrata]

Now I'm really confused. Please update your signature with the Prozac. When did the switch to Zoloft occur?

 

It sounds like you made a lot of drug changes in late May following cold-turkey off Seroquel May 6, including later reductions in Zoloft and Seroquel. Any of those changes can cause severe symptoms.

 

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The nausea has calmed down quite a bit I don't feel it it's barely there but now

 

When was the nausea worse? When did it start?

 

Do you feel better or worse after you take Zoloft in the afternoon?

 

Please read up on Seroquel side effects.

 

Please add paragraph breaks to your posts with the Return key. Long blocks of text are difficult to read.

[RusTW]

21 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Now I'm really confused. Please update your signature with the Prozac. When did the switch to Zoloft occur?

 

It sounds like you made a lot of drug changes in late May following cold-turkey off Seroquel May 6, including later reductions in Zoloft and Seroquel. Any of those changes can cause severe symptoms.

 

 

When was the nausea worse? When did it start?

 

Do you feel better or worse after you take Zoloft in the afternoon?

 

Please read up on Seroquel side effects.

 

Please add paragraph breaks to your posts with the Return key. Long blocks of text are difficult to read.

The nausea started 3 weeks after CT of seroquel along with itchy scalp and face.

 

Was only on the Prozac 40mg a few months prior to Zoloft  that was changed last year

 

When I take my Zoloft in the afternoon it amps me up equivalent to about a cup of coffee and I don't feel bad just a little more anxiety I get a pretty good window in the evening from 8 p.m. until about 12 a.m. so it may be helping me I do sweat really bad after I take it. The nausea if I do have it is usually gone in the afternoons or evenings it gets better.

 

 right now right now my symptoms are mostly up in my head I have bad headaches in the morning brain fog pretty bad anxiety that levels out in the evening dizziness blurred vision intrusive thinking from my understanding I guess symptoms do change

 

do you think that's good progress if I do get long windows that are clear.

 

 

 

[Altostrata]

I would take Zoloft in the morning, by moving it an hour or two earlier every day. Keep daily notes on paper about your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages.

 

(You may notice you've gotten many reminders about daily symptom notes. That is because we need this information.)

 

It also sound like 50mg Zoloft is too much for you. When did you reduce it from 100mg? Please put the date in your signature.

[RusTW]

Alto good plan about taking a Zoloft in the morning I was thinking about that myself also.

 

 starting tomorrow morning I will keep an updated list of my symptoms posted

 

I don't remember the exact date on the taper of the Zoloft but I think it  was a 25 mg cut every two weeks in mid-june to mid-july taking me from 100 mg to 50 which was way too fast I've been holding it at 50mgs so far

 

Thanks for your help today Alto I hope you have a good rest of the day

[RusTW]

Daily update  the headache started as soon as I woke up and started moving around. I felt mild nausea that felt like it was going to build up but it didn't .the anxiety revved up about 9 ish and it's still kind of with me now . I can feel later in the day it turns more into like a an energy Rush. When the anxiety is bad it feels like you're ready to just start screaming and running down the street. I just want allow myself to do that but I feel that way. The headache simmered down a little bit. I have a little bit more clarity not as much fog. I have like a hot feeling on the top of my head. I hope I can get some sleep again tonight I'm going to try to go to bed early

[Rabe]

Hi Rus...Im sorry for all you have been through with the tests and all but happy that all that is done.  I asked about work because it does seem on those days you are more anxious and I think it is insightful of you to put what occurred in the past to what is happening now with your anxiety before work.  The wonderful thing is that you do get there and do feel better for doing that. Yay!!!!

[RusTW]

3 minutes ago, Rabe said:

Hi Rus...Im sorry for all you have been through with the tests and all but happy that all that is done.  I asked about work because it does seem on those days you are more anxious and I think it is insightful of you to put what occurred in the past to what is happening now with your anxiety before work.  The wonderful thing is that you do get there and do feel better for doing that. Yay!!!!

HI Rabe  I try to keep my daily routine pattern the same so if I'm off like today I usually get out and go do something until it's time to go to bed or just stay busy like I would be at work. I've been staying away from home now I'll just go sit at the park and watch the birds listen to the water. Idle time for me is no good. It's really strange today my mind keeps going into a window into a wave into a window into a wave. Do you ever get that

[Rabe]

Pretty much constantly...I have to talk to myself and tell myself to stop it when my thought are all goofy!

[RusTW]

33 minutes ago, Rabe said:

Pretty much constantly...I have to talk to myself and tell myself to stop it when my thought are all goofy!

Your funny Rabe= goofy

[RusTW]

20 hours ago, Altostrata said:

I would take Zoloft in the morning, by moving it an hour or two earlier every day. Keep daily notes on paper about your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages.

 

(You may notice you've gotten many reminders about daily symptom notes. That is because we need this information.)

 

It also sound like 50mg Zoloft is too much for you. When did you reduce it from 100mg? Please put the date in your signature.

Alto I'm in really bad shape Alto I don't know if I should go to the ER or what I should do my anxiety is so bad it's unbearable and it's happening to me in the middle of the night now I'm afraid if I go there they're just going to give me more meds and make me worse but I don't know how to get relief from this it's too much to handle

[Rabe]

Hi Rus...read some of your recent posts...you were doing better and were happier and laughing at my 'goofy'.  My anxiety and all are very bad this morning as well.  It is not fun for sure, but you will get through this just like the other times.  Do you work today?

[Rabe]

Also Alto has asked you to keep your journal of meds and symptoms...so get paper and pen and ne sure to be doing that ok?

[RusTW]

 the anxieties hitting me in the middle of the night and it's really intense right the anxieties hitting me in the middle of the night and it's really intense right now I can barely handle it. I didn't sleep all night

[RusTW]

2 minutes ago, Rabe said:

Also Alto has asked you to keep your journal of meds and symptoms...so get paper and pen and ne sure to be doing that ok?

What should I do