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Wwaterboy: My family's and my story with Paxil

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jonnypeters1234567

You need to relax your system. Are you going to try and stabilise on Celexa or get off it?

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Wwaterboy

I can't put that in my body again. I just can't.

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Wwaterboy

My friend gave me some Remeron I'm wondering if it would help me? Does anyone have success on here with that?

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Wwaterboy

I should probably not touch it and just try to fall asleep naturally.

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Wwaterboy

I want to live without meds but my god we're looking at years here! Years off my life!

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Wwaterboy

Maybe I'll do 5 of the celexa tomorrow.

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Altostrata
13 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Please do not add more than one drug at a time, you won't know where adverse reactions, if any, are coming from.

 

If I were you, I'd start with 0.5mg Celexa, keep daily notes on paper about your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages.

 

It could be that a little Celexa is enough. Let us know how you're doing. Try not to post repetitiously, we'll look for alerts as soon as we can.

 

4 hours ago, Wwaterboy said:

Restinstating was a horrible idea. I mean, all of a sudden my symptoms are gone -- akithesia, vomiting, shaking, but my head feels horrific.

 

Are your symptoms gone?

 

After extensive back and forth, in which I emphasized that you take a very low dose, such as 0.5mg Celexa, and carefully explained the reason, you took 10mg.

 

Yes, 10mg Celexa was too much for you. You were cautioned about this. Do not take 5mg tomorrow. You will have to let your system settle down. In a few days, you might be able to take 0.5mg.

 

Your habits of self-medicating are getting you into trouble. Also, you're wasting my time, and I won't tolerate that.

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Wwaterboy

Thank you, Altostrata. I'm sorry.

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Altostrata
4 hours ago, Wwaterboy said:

Yeah, I should have only done 5. Or less.

 

I suggested Prozac, you decided on Celexa. I suggested 0.5mg, you decided to take 10mg. What's wrong with this picture?

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Wwaterboy

I don't know what I was thinking. The sleep deprivation is driving me nuts. I will listen to everything you have to say because this is life or death.

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Wwaterboy

After getting on and off the paxil I completely lost my libido. I always had a very strong libido even while on Paxil. It's the destabilizing thing that probably kills it. There is very real brain damage going on here.

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Altostrata

It is not brain damage, it is neurological destabilization. Read What is withdrawal syndrome?

 

Please spend more time reading informational topics in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum so you understand what we're telling you here.

 

 

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Wwaterboy

Does post acute withdrawal syndrome ever go aware after reinstating a different drug? It doesn’t does it.

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Altostrata

To avoid being high-maintenance, please use search on this site or Google site:survivingantidepressants.org to read our existing discussions about reinstatement.

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Altostrata

Stop the repetitious posting. You took too much SSRI, you got a kindling reaction. It will take time for your nervous system to settle down.

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Wwaterboy

Has ANYONE ever heard of sudden onset impotence from Paxil?

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Altostrata

To avoid being high-maintenance, please use search on this site or Google site:survivingantidepressants.org to read our existing discussions about sexual dysfunction.

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jonnypeters1234567

I have impotence from Citalopram, but thats the least of my worries

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jonnypeters1234567

If thats your main worry you are doing alright

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Wwaterboy

Is the impotence physiological or is it do to desensitization of some sort of nerve cells? What issues are you talking about Johnny? My blood pressure is through the roof. So maybe physiological and it can be saved? I think I have major heart disease from Paxil and alcohol and I will probably be headed to the hospital soon. My impotence came on suddenly like a hurricane. BAM! It was like a cord was cut. It definitely seems like it is a sense issue. Can it ever return?

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Altostrata

You are experiencing blood pressure dysregulation from going on and off drugs, plus the alcohol. As you know, blood pressure regulation is an autonomic function. Psychiatric drugs and withdrawal affect the autonomic nervous system. It is dysautonomia.

 

If you stopped screwing around with your drugs, it will settle down. Getting at least a half-hour of gentle exercise per day will help.

 

Along with recovering from dysautonomia, we see people very slowly and gradually recovering from iatrogenic sexual dysfunction when they are off the drugs.

 

You have not been singled out to suffer this adverse effect. Sexual dysfunction affects greater than 50% of those who take SSRIs. Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PSSD) may follow.

 

 

See our Symptoms and Self-care forum  for suggestions about how to cope with symptoms.

 

Stop posting repetitively and read the links we give you. Being high-maintenance will cause your ejection from this site.

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jonnypeters1234567
32 minutes ago, Wwaterboy said:

Is the impotence physiological or is it do to desensitization of some sort of nerve cells? What issues are you talking about Johnny? My blood pressure is through the roof. So maybe physiological and it can be saved? I think I have major heart disease from Paxil and alcohol and I will probably be headed to the hospital soon. My impotence came on suddenly like a hurricane. BAM! It was like a cord was cut. It definitely seems like it is a sense issue. Can it ever return?

 

Im desensitised, but it comes and goes. Yes it returns

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Wwaterboy

Wow, I think 0.5 mg Celexa taken at night is going to do me wonderfully. Once the initial flight of ideas wears off I feel amazing. I realize I've been in Paxil withdrawal, for those 4 months, for what felt like so long. I'm very sad that I've lost my ability to have sex, that's for sure. It makes me realize everything is brain chemistry. And when we went on these drugs, and psychiatrists who just don't know what they were doing, they were obviously giving way to high of doses. I do feel good again for the first time in a long time. This may inspire me to become a psychiatrist nurse practitioner and practice medicine psychiatrist medicine in this manner. So many problems with our psychiatry. Granted, no meds is better. Trying to get back on Paxil was the worst idea ever. It truly was like my body rejected it on every level. Alto, thank you so much for your help during this time. Such reprocussions to the decisions in using these drugs, it's amazing.

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Altostrata

Why do you think 0.5mg Celexa taken at night is going to do you wonderfully?

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Wwaterboy

Well, you're right. I guess I get a window at a certain time with the Celexa that is great. When I take it in the morning, it makes me very flighty and have dry mouth. So, I was thinking taking it at night would do me well, because after that wears off, I feel really great. I'm having terrible diarrhea though. Hopefully that goes away. I’m so angry at myself for trying to go back on Paxil to make myself feel better after 4 months of withdrawals and now I’ve lost my ability to get an erection.

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Altostrata

How much Celexa are you taking?

 

Enough about the erection, please.

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Wwaterboy

Ugh, I'm all over the place with my dosages. Should I just stay on 0.5 in the morning!? I took 10 yesterday and I think I had good sleep last night, I don't remember. Now I'm afraid of night time and my head feels funny because I'm worried about sleep. I really need to figure out a plan and stick to it.

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Altostrata

You're still metabolizing the 10mg you took two days ago. The amount in your bloodstream is gradually decreasing.

 

You will have to put up with fluctuations in symptoms until your nervous system settles down, which can take weeks or longer. You need to stop panicking every time you feel a wave of something or another. You need to learn to stay calm.

 

If you have a bad night, you might practice meditation to calm your system down.

 

I suppose you could continue 0.5mg, taken at the same time each day, to establish a habit of stable dosing. If you can't stick to any kind of stability in your dosing, we won't be able to help you.

 

 

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Wwaterboy

Alto, that is exactly what I was thinking. 0.5 mg tomorrow morning! Thank you! I feel like I'm actually going to be able to sleep tonight! Famous last words.

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Wwaterboy

Alto, I am so inspired by you, I'm not kidding. I would love to make this my life's work, but I could never be anything close to the same provider as you. Right now I feel okay, after, whatever that was that I went through? How could I have been so stupid and naïve to do what I did? Reinstating 2.5, switching to 5, down to 0.5, etc. Those seemed to be symptoms of post acute withdrawal? I just want to thank you, because right now, I feel okay.

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mammaP

WB please stop catastrophising, neither you nor us can predict the future.  You need to calm down and that in turnm will help lower your blood pressure. You felt much better at 0.5, please stick with that dose EVERY SINGLE DAY so that you can stabilise. You have screwed your nervous system with the constant experiments. You WILL have bad days, and good days. Make the most of the good ones and remember them on the bad ones. 

You are anurse, what would you say to a patient who takes no notice and tells you that they are not taking the drug you are administering and demand another, or a different dose, then tell you that it hasn't worked? I can imagine 2 words you would be uttering under your breath! :D

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/82-the-windows-and-waves-pattern-of-stabilization/

 

You are posting too many times in a short time, maybe on a phone but it is very hard for us to go through all the posts.If you continue to post so many times we  have to ignore them. 

 

Last year I had an eye stroke and it affected my vision, I couldn't drive or use the computer. Couldn't read or even cross a road safely. The doctor at the hospital told me that 70% of people do not recover their vision.  At first I was devastated and couldn't see myself coping long term. Then I told myself that the statistics say that 30% DO recover, so I decided I would be in that 30% instead of moping about being permanent. I DID recover my vision. Don't assume that you will not recover, there is nothing to suggest that you will be in the permanent number, they are actually very few.  

 

My BP was 235/115 and doctors insisted on meds which made me very sick.  Fresh juice helped a lot, I bought a juicer. Apple, cucumber and celery with mint leaves reduces it. I also bought a respirate machine. My BP is now much more stable. The respirate regulates and slows breathing, this relaxes the blood vessels. Youtube has many videos on breathing to lower BP, I would recommend them. 

 

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